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2011-12-05 China-Japan-Koreas
U.S. Wants to Maintain Limits on ROK Missiles
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Posted by Steve White 2011-12-05 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11130 views ]  Top

#1 China sees both the US + Russia as potential nuclear adversaries, sole or in joint, thus it believes it needs a nuclear arsenal large enough to deter + fight both.

Ditto Russia vee the US + China, espec historic Asia rival = nemesis China, but Russia feels tech-backward/inferior China can be effectively handled by Russian conventional forces, + so saves its nukes mostly for agz the US. CHINA'S ON-GOING MIL MODERNIZATION IS PRESEN MAKING MOSCOW ALL TWITCHY.

China now has NUCLEARIZING RADICAL ISLAM [MilTerrs = Jihadis] + also a possible post-2018 NUCLEAR-ARMED JAPAN to worry about.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2011-12-05 00:27||   2011-12-05 00:27|| Front Page Top

#2 ION NOT-DPRK NEWS, INDIAN DEFENCE FORUM > INDIA MONITORS [anchored]IRAN SHIP CARRYING ARMED MEN.

[1960's = 1980's =1990's, post-911 GUAM TAOTAMONAS here].

* SAME > INDIA SEEKS TO PREVENT NAVAL SKIRMISHES WID CHINA ON HIGH SEAS, espec in IOR = Indian Ocean Region.

versus

* CHINA DAILY FORUM > EAST TURKESTAN SEPARATISTS TAKING REFUGE IN INDIA: WU MONJIE [Chin Mil Xpert], whom also claims that India's military strength at the Tibet borders is now greater than China's.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2011-12-05 00:45||   2011-12-05 00:45|| Front Page Top

#3 Why?
Posted by imoyaro 2011-12-05 02:17||   2011-12-05 02:17|| Front Page Top

#4 Prior to the Nork invasion of the South, the ROK was denied heavy weapons [artillery, armor] it requested from the American cadre/diplomats even though we literally had tons of the stuff left over from WWII. The American intent was for the ROK military to be a constabulary force and saw no need to provide the ROK military the necessary equipment as growing world tensions [like the Berlin Crisis] already had sent warnings of what was to come.

It's time that ROK look after its own interests and not that of the fools in Washington.
Posted by Procopius2k 2011-12-05 08:57||   2011-12-05 08:57|| Front Page Top

#5 Ditto Japan, India, etc...
Posted by CrazyFool 2011-12-05 11:17||   2011-12-05 11:17|| Front Page Top

#6 ROK should develop them. It is their country and they need to worry about their own security since they can stand up to NOK on their own.
Posted by DarthVader 2011-12-05 13:20||   2011-12-05 13:20|| Front Page Top

#7 I can think of one easy solution.

Build a new missile that honors the current restriction but is state of the art in every other way. The kind of missile that can hit the eye of Lincoln head penny in the main square of Pyongyang.

AND, build a second stage for it that can be strapped on in about five minutes that lets it hit that same penny in the main square of Beijing.

And don't tell anyone about the second stage.
Posted by Steve White 2011-12-05 15:18||   2011-12-05 15:18|| Front Page Top

#8 Or let everybody know about it.
The best weapon is the one you never have to use.
Posted by Jesh Ghibelline3242 2011-12-05 15:48||   2011-12-05 15:48|| Front Page Top

#9 They'll probably just build cruise missiles instead.
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2011-12-05 16:42||   2011-12-05 16:42|| Front Page Top

#10 AH, but how far will it cruise?
Posted by Redneck Jim 2011-12-05 20:06||   2011-12-05 20:06|| Front Page Top

#11 We have no business telling our allies how they can and can't defend themselves. Build what they want. Call them sounding rockets or satellite launchers. America's first Marxist administration won't be in office much longer anyway.
Posted by Eohippus Phater7165 2011-12-05 20:36||   2011-12-05 20:36|| Front Page Top

#12 They'll probably just build cruise missiles instead.

They already build 1000 mile range cruise missiles.
Posted by Eohippus Phater7165 2011-12-05 20:39||   2011-12-05 20:39|| Front Page Top

#13 ION TOPIX > AUSTRALIA TOLD TO REPAIR RELATIONS WID PACIFIC STATES.

AUS image + influence is in decline vee Rising China + not even close ties wid the US may be enuff to counter China's better or more positive image wid regional states.

* WORLD MIL FORUM > RIGHT-WING JAPAN POLITICIAN ISHIHARA: JAPAN MUST STOP BEING A BULLIED [abused], POST-SURRENDER "STUPID MISTRESS/
CONCUBINE" OF THE USA.

IIUC, this is Ishihara's roundabout, albeit critical, way of demanding that Japan dev indigenous NucWeaps in order to return to being a competitive Great Power???

versus

* BHARAT RAKSHAK > INDIA NEEDS A [indigenous]HOME-BUILT NAVY.

Its good for the domestic economy, e.g. expansion of Govt., Private Shipyards + employment therein.
Posted by Angash Peacock6557 2011-12-05 23:27||   2011-12-05 23:27|| Front Page Top

#14 Sorry, last post is mine - local sys is suffering = being affected by power fluxes.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2011-12-05 23:28||   2011-12-05 23:28|| Front Page Top

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