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2011-04-25 Fifth Column

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Posted by anon1 2011-04-25 04:31|| || Front Page|| [11135 views ] Top

#1 Have Rantburgers seen this video? I just saw it today, it's long: 1 hour 30. But very distressing.

These tactics are used today for those who would protect the rights of the individual against Government. Infiltrating protests. Abusing the legal system to make political opponents look like criminals.

It happens in the third world, Kenyan police called human-rights activist Oscar Kamau's protest a "mungiki" protest right before shooting him and his partner. He had helped expose Kenyan police extrajudicial killings and the UN special rapporteur had delivered a scathing report days before.

Now here in Australia and in the US it isn't that crude. They don't shoot people in the centre of the city in broad daylight like Kenyan cops do.

Here they put "form" on you and cause hassles...

With the imminent collapse of the US dollar thanks to excess moneyprinting they may be expecting civil unrest.

Please, stay safe over there, those of you who love liberty and freedom.

Posted by anon1 2011-04-25 04:37|| 2011-04-25 04:37|| Front Page Top

#2 Generally this is the sort of meme pushed by the same people who push the "9/11 was an inside job by the nazi-analogue US government" meme, and other similar things.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2011-04-25 09:40|| 2011-04-25 09:40|| Front Page Top

#3 In short, it's been pushed by those who hope to push the US to Civil War for their own fun and profit. They've already won in the middle east, more or less, by pushing the US to the brink of civil war.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2011-04-25 09:41|| 2011-04-25 09:41|| Front Page Top

#4 FEMA camps came into being to a great extent because of Katrina, and projected other disasters like the Big One in California, or another New Madrid quake near the Mississippi. Or even particularly devastating hurricanes or even a really bad volcanic eruption.

That is, the US had a need for regional, high density, emergency evacuation facilities. Federal EMERGENCY Management Agency.

This is because after Katrina, there was a huge and disorderly flight from Louisiana, mostly into Texas. And while the Texans tried to be helpful, they were just not equipped to handle so many people for so long.

FEMA camps have to be institutional, and designed to keep a huge number of people housed, fed, clothed and given health care and schooling for children, while trying to figure out where they can go.

But why keep it low key? Because they store a heck of a lot of emergency supplies there, but with only a small maintenance staff to keep it orderly. If they became well known, vandals and looters would quickly destroy the place.

Posted by Anonymoose 2011-04-25 09:59|| 2011-04-25 09:59|| Front Page Top

#5 Hello anon1. In the event of a national emergency of the scale like WW11 you would have to have some plan to deal with the unexpected. I would hope and do expect planning of this sort must be considered. I have a poor opinion of the general population should a crisis occur. We don't have the strong family units anymore. We don't have the religious faith anymore to extent we once had.
Some errors in Judgment will occur. When people are fearful or distressed logic and common sense goes out the window. When emotion rules then people can behave in mass quite unpredictably(remember the riots in this country). That is why camps, foodstuffs, barbed wire, security, housing, energy, medical are needed to protect those inside as well as from the outside. I always use the old scout motto "be prepared". Yes, a triage would be necessary depending on the event. This would have to be preplanned and uniformly dispersed for uniformity.
Yes, police, national guard, medical centers would be coupled with this effort. This is thinking optimistically. Cool heads must prevail.

Posted by Dale 2011-04-25 10:04|| 2011-04-25 10:04|| Front Page Top

#6 Think I'd rather take my chances on the OUTSIDE of the razor wire, thank you very much though.

They're from the government, they're here to help us!

Posted by Bigjim-CA 2011-04-25 14:32|| 2011-04-25 14:32|| Front Page Top

#7 Anonymoose, I live in the DFW area and had to travel around the counties during the time of the Katrina refugees. Lousiana may have muffed it but I'm proud to say I never saw or heard of problems with the way our state and local govts handled the problem. It was after the emergency that we had huge problem with crime done by the Louisiana refugees.

Posted by AlmostAnonymous5839 2011-04-25 15:06|| 2011-04-25 15:06|| Front Page Top

#8 Thing, Anonymoose and Dale all make sense. I understand perfectly the points they are making. But when push came to shove I'd have to agree with Bigim-CA. Just think how you would feel when they were marching you through that gate.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2011-04-25 16:11|| 2011-04-25 16:11|| Front Page Top

#9 What we should have done is saved several large military bases for this purpose. Ft. Ord, California, for example. Schools, shopping, housing, hospitals and clinics, airfield, rail sidings, everything that would be needed to quickly house thousands of people displaced by a natural emergency along with a large amount of land on which to build hasty shelter for thousands more.

In other words, we already had these FEMA camps pretty much already built but we threw them away.

Posted by crosspatch 2011-04-25 16:49|| 2011-04-25 16:49|| Front Page Top

#10 Plus, the Kayaking at Ft. Ord is A+

Posted by bigjim-CA 2011-04-25 20:07|| 2011-04-25 20:07|| Front Page Top

#11 Hey Big Jim hows that new job. I did some paddling myself. Thirty years later I'm top heavy and pulling muscles. I did get my son and grandsons started however. We have allot of whitewater most of the time here. I always preferred going up stream. I understand your wanting to be on the outside of a camp. The main cities now have warlords in my opinion so anarchy will just wear you down.

Posted by Dale 2011-04-25 21:56|| 2011-04-25 21:56|| Front Page Top

#12 The Choice of title for this post is patently ridiculous. Mind you, Americans are gunners, first and foremost. FEMA would stand for Federals Executed by Mean Americans.

Posted by Fi 2011-04-25 23:16|| 2011-04-25 23:16|| Front Page Top

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