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2010-03-17 Israel-Palestine-Jordan

Third intifada in pipeline: PLO official

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Posted by Fred 2010-03-17 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11135 views ] Top
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#1 Thank you Mr. President.

Posted by DoDo 2010-03-17 00:21|| 2010-03-17 00:21|| Front Page Top

#2 Revealing an 1882 map of al-Quds, which illustrated planned Israeli settlements, the former Palestinian prime minister said it proved "an unprecedented danger, which targets its land, people, holy sites, heritage and history."

Un-friggin-believable.

Posted by phil_b 2010-03-17 00:57|| 2010-03-17 00:57|| Front Page Top

#3 Zionists have twisted the facts long enough. American Zionists, including liberals, have even prevented any debate on these matters for over 60 years as they successfully antisemite-baited anyone who questioned their version of history.

The Palestinians were expelled from the homeland and were not even provided minimum compensation. Instead, the Israelo-American lie is that those nasty Palestinians left their homes because they just don't like Jews, i.e. they are no better than Nazis and deserve the same fate!

A huge part of antagonism toward America in the world today stems from its pro-Israel settlement policies these past 60 years. They are a HUGE slap in the face to all emerging countries, most of which have also underwent bloody struggles to obtain independence!

If we Americans want to roll back terrorism, we must be a credible moral force! If we continue to support Israel's constant encroachment on Palestinian lands and rights, the hundreds of billions of DOLLAR$ we are spending and the thousands of brave American lives sacrificed are all for naught!!

Posted by hunterkiller 2010-03-17 01:01|| 2010-03-17 01:01|| Front Page Top

#4 @#3 hunterkiller: You need to study history and quit being a tool.
No one was thrown off 'their' land, although wars do displace people.
The fact is more Israelis were displaced from their lands than Palestinians were at the time the state of Israel was born.
The Turks owned the land for hundreds of years that became known as TransJordan. The land was divided after WWI with 2/3s going to the newly created country of Jordan and Jews receiving a small piece west of the Jordan river. These Palestinians are 'fake' people. Even the other Arab states know these people are fakirs.
Even Arafat was born in Egypt.
You never ever hear about Palis demanding their land back from Jordan. Why is that?
It's about religion.
The Jews have every right to live on the land of their forefathers.

Posted by Mike Hunt 2010-03-17 01:20|| 2010-03-17 01:20|| Front Page Top

#5 If they are talking about it, they already planned it and rearmed and their bullying is to provoke even more reaction from the Israelis.

The goal of the Intifada is to cause Palestinian causalities for Muslim sympathy, just like last time.

I hope the gold dome is in pieces when it's over.

Posted by Jith Ghibelline8809 2010-03-17 01:46|| 2010-03-17 01:46|| Front Page Top

#6 And those Arabs (there were no 'Palistinian' people then) who were 'driven out' left of their own free will with the hope of returning and participating in the rape of Israel.

And why is it that Arabs in Israel don't want to leave? Even for another Arab state?

Posted by CrazyFool 2010-03-17 02:09|| 2010-03-17 02:09|| Front Page Top

#7 Israel has changed a bit, in the meanwhile. Paleos, and their patrons, are in for a big surprise.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2010-03-17 02:12|| 2010-03-17 02:12|| Front Page Top

#8 most of which have also underwent bloody struggles to obtain independence!

OT, but bullsh!t. The colonial powers were desperate to dump their colonies. All those roads, railways, schools and hospitals cost a bucket of money they could no longer afford.

Although with respect to the ever informative John Frum, India was an exception.

Posted by phil_b 2010-03-17 02:22|| 2010-03-17 02:22|| Front Page Top

#9 How some people find it possible to support a murderous gang of thugs like the palestinian groups is a constant source of wonder to me. I might suggest to hunterkiller a bit of bible study to locate this town of al-Quds or, if that's problematic, a review of the last few years of Rantburg for articles on paleo behavior.

As a matter of fact, I have read postings recently on other sites making the same twisted points. I smell a memo passing around out there. I can't decide if it's the usual suspects or our new administration.

Posted by Dogsbody 2010-03-17 02:25|| 2010-03-17 02:25|| Front Page Top

#10 The Palestinians were expelled from the homeland and were not even provided minimum compensation.

[Grrrr.]

kunterhiller: Suppose for the sake of argument you are correct that "Palestinians" inhabited the areas that are currently infested with "Palestinians". Would it not make sense that any Jews ejected from Muslim lands deserved a reciprocal right to return and compensation? Would you happen to know what I am talking about?

But alas, we don't have to suppose that there were "Palestinians" there, since that was a term invented by Arafat's clan back in the 60's to lend credence to their bogus claim for those too lazy to study any history whatsoever to sieze onto, along with the bogus implications that come along with the name. The truth is nothing was there before the Jews came along. Nothing. Nada. Zip. Maybe a nomad or two and a few migrants from other countries in the area, but they are everywhere and nowhere, so who cares. They can go elsewhere. The only reason Muslims put up with them is because they are useful fools as a thorn in Israel's side. Nothing else. If they were so loved, Jordan or Egypt could easily take them back in or at least let them cross into their land to obtain medical help. They don't.

The UN set up a mandate after WWII that this land belongs to Israel. Done. Finito. The UN deeded them the land because it was basically unoccupied except for a few Muslims who apparently attracted some others and who all breed like rabbits. Got a problem understanding that or accepting it? Take it up with the Useless Natterers themselves.

And if you still believe that tripe, and still have such a problem with "Palestinian" squatters' lands being taken over by Zionists, then why don't you start fixing such situations right here in your own back yard? Buy up as much property as you can and just give it to a Native American. Don't expect them to say thanks because it was theirs to begin with anyway, and there never was a UN resolution deeding it to the invaders anyway.

You've been outsmarted by Muslims playing the Fool's Sympathy card. But of couse, you like it that way because it gives you a cause that gets your blood moving and you fit right in with your mentally challenged liberal friends. Don't forget to maintain your denial after you leave here.

Or if you'd rather, look into it yourself. There is a real cause you could attach youself that will get your blood moving, too. And it's based in facts and truth, which has the benefit of you not having to walk around depending on people not being aware of false assumptions all the while maintaining your own denial and willful ignorance.

Posted by gorb 2010-03-17 02:36|| 2010-03-17 02:36|| Front Page Top

#11 Just remember this, who was dancing on 9/11?

Posted by Jith Ghibelline8809 2010-03-17 02:41|| 2010-03-17 02:41|| Front Page Top

#12 And yes, Barack, at this rate it seems it won't be long before your comments cause more blood to be spilled.

Good thing that useless wall is in place.

Posted by gorb 2010-03-17 02:42|| 2010-03-17 02:42|| Front Page Top

#13 Just remember this, who was dancing on 9/11?

The same folks who were ululating and throwing candy.

Posted by gorb 2010-03-17 02:43|| 2010-03-17 02:43|| Front Page Top

#14 Welcome to International Terrorism 101. During this sememster we will examine the connection between US AID payments and Palestinian uprisings.

Posted by Besoeker 2010-03-17 04:05|| 2010-03-17 04:05|| Front Page Top

#15 OT, but bullsh!t. The colonial powers were desperate to dump their colonies. All those roads, railways, schools and hospitals cost a bucket of money they could no longer afford

It varied, certainly many colonies were money sinks that the Europeans weren't gaining much benefit frm towards the end of their rule. OTOH there were quite bloody independence struggles against the Europeans in many places - Vietnam, Algeria, Angola.

Small Euro forces were fighting bush wars all through the 50's, 60's and into the 70's before they finally gave up their empires.

Posted by Gaz 2010-03-17 04:35|| 2010-03-17 04:35|| Front Page Top

#16 OTOH there were quite bloody independence struggles against the Europeans in many places - Vietnam, Algeria, Angola.

Vietnam was a communist takeover.

Algeria and Angola were ethnic civil wars that continued long after 'independence'. Although one faction in the Algerian civil war were 'white settlers' who left en mass toward the end. In excess of a million people left Algeria. Another faction, the Berbers were slaughtered. An unknown number were killed, perhaps a quarter of a million in the next 40 years of civil war.

Angola was similar, but without the white settlers and with bigger body counts.

Posted by phil_b 2010-03-17 08:07|| 2010-03-17 08:07|| Front Page Top

#17 Tell 'em to go ahead. The first two worked out so well for them.

Posted by tu3031 2010-03-17 10:01|| 2010-03-17 10:01|| Front Page Top

#18 who cares if pleos where thrown off their lands? they're losers and that what usually happens. Even the arabs in the resst of the middle east don't want these cockroaches

Posted by chris 2010-03-17 11:22|| 2010-03-17 11:22|| Front Page Top

#19 Since the U.S. is apparently upset with the Israeli government, now is the best time for the Palestinians to shut up and make a deal. If they miss this chance, the survivors will end up with their options substantially reduced.

If instead the Palestinians keep annoying the Israelis, eventually the Israelis are going get fed up and go all Old Testament on them.

Posted by rammer 2010-03-17 13:12|| 2010-03-17 13:12|| Front Page Top

#20 eventually the Israelis are going get fed up and go all Old Testament on them

Seems to me that somewhere in the old testament it says to kill all the Arabs or they will forever be a thorn in your side.

I don't agree with it, but it's still there. Tells you how much of a pain they were when it was written, and not much has changed since then. Including that the women still have real tits and the men still hold hands. ;-)

But I'm sure that over the next generation or two they will suddenly see the light.

Posted by gorb 2010-03-17 14:07|| 2010-03-17 14:07|| Front Page Top

#21 Talk is cheap.........if you Rantburghers, as American citizens, have a problem with the Apartheid regime of Israel; A let your money do the talking. Boycott all Israeli products and services immediately like many of us. And if you are aware of businesses that engage in commerce (or support) Israel in any way, boycott them as well. It's pretty simple, and it worked with South Africa. Boycott Israel now!
We should also demand an immediate cessation of all US aid to Israel, particularly military aid. We must not be part of these crimes against humanity B if you do not have problems with Israeli your cause is domed anyway ..Jews in the USA are only 1.4%
And only a small percentage of them support Israel at oltranza Regarding the Christian yahoos well they are irrelevant, and AIPAC? Well AIPAC and is members are already branded traitors of the America peoples and is political and military interests
So in the end is a non winning situation for the racist Israel and is morons Anti-American supporters, Real Conservatives do not happily embrace that little shity state at all.

Posted by hunterkiller 2010-03-17 15:26|| 2010-03-17 15:26|| Front Page Top

#22 One can be sure that many of our troops on the front lines wonder if they're actually fighting for our freedom (questionable on it's face) which they may have signed up for, or for Israel's security. I expect it doesn't take long in the field of battle to figure that one out, or at least to question it. I can imagine how they feel when they learn how the Israeli government shows so little regard for its closest ally and benefactor. (Unless of course our military shields them from the facts)

It is disgraceful that so many of my compatriots in this post that call is members Americans don't have the courage or character to stand up to the Israeli influence in the face of this obvious disregard. And, while pontificating about the moral high ground and human rights they, without pause, willfully overlook Israel's flagrant violations of the standards that they profess to hold so dear.

It is truly no wonder why the approval ratings of Rantburg are so low

Posted by hunterkiller 2010-03-17 15:38|| 2010-03-17 15:38|| Front Page Top

#23 Hey, has Boris slithered back? The IP traces out to California. Will have to ask the Mossad if he's still a bedwetter.

Posted by tu3031 2010-03-17 15:42|| 2010-03-17 15:42|| Front Page Top

#24 Seems to me that somewhere in the old testament it says to kill all the Arabs or they will forever be a thorn in your side.

well there are the anti Amalek passages (e.g., one in Ex 17: 8-16, Num 24:20 and Deut 25:17-19) but no one really considers the Arabs to be the genetic descendants of Amalek (although some people have discussed whether Hamas is a spiritual descendant of Amalek).

there is also the command to drive out the Canaanites (also various places) but the Arabs aren't Canaanites, and besides, 'drive out' isn't the same as 'wipe out'.

on the subject of a 3rd intifada, if the PLO really wanted to this and could do this they would just go ahead; the fact that they make announcements shows they don't have it together enough to do it.

Posted by lord garth 2010-03-17 15:53|| 2010-03-17 15:53|| Front Page Top

#25 Hey kid!!!!!tu3031 F@@@ - OF R T Fritzsche Army Airfield Fort Ord (Marina), CA, USA

Posted by hunterkiller 2010-03-17 15:54|| 2010-03-17 15:54|| Front Page Top

#26 Hey kid!!!!!tu3031 F@@@ - OF R T Fritzsche Army Airfield Fort Ord (Marina), CA, USA

Posted by hunterkiller 2010-03-17 15:54|| 2010-03-17 15:54|| Front Page Top

#27 Seems to me that somewhere in the old testament it says to kill all the Arabs or they will forever be a thorn in your side.

I am not a biblical scolar (not even close! and perhaps someone else will chime in) but I believe the target were Philistines (not at all related to the non-people Palestinians). And that is the only time a group of people was targeted for death.

The Philistines had some truly reprehensible and sick practices in their worship of Baal.

(I've heard someone once contend that Allah is a derivative of Baal) Some of the Islamic practices - human sacrifices (also known as suicide or homiside bombers and their victims) and child sacrifices (Mothers sending their children out to be suicide bombers - see Palestine, Hamass, etc...) might lend some credence to this.

Posted by CrazyFool 2010-03-17 15:58|| 2010-03-17 15:58|| Front Page Top

#28 I stand (or sit) corrected Lord Garth...

Whoever they are :) - they had some vile practices.

Posted by CrazyFool 2010-03-17 16:00|| 2010-03-17 16:00|| Front Page Top

#29 The problem is that "Palestine" is a feverish promise given by Soviet masters to Marxist Arabs in exchange for a homosexual favors.

Srsly, however, South Africa is a very poor example of proving your point, and Zimbabwe is far more instructive; taking a once prosperous land and turning into a Marxian sh*thole, the eventual intention of Hamas et al.

Posted by badanov 2010-03-17 16:05|| http://www.freefirezone.org 2010-03-17 16:05|| Front Page Top

#30 Egypt, jordan Russia ,China and the Palestinians are well paid to not attack Israel. This war is ongoing and there is no peace..nor will there be until zionism is renounced by the Jews d0uches and one state created...If Mubarek should die, turmoil in Egypt could be the beginning of the end for Israel as a Jewish state...

Posted by hunterkiller 2010-03-17 16:37|| 2010-03-17 16:37|| Front Page Top

#31 Maybe.

Or maybe in the end a whole lot of primitive, violent countries that contribute less to the world as a group than tiny Israel will become seas of cooling glass.

Israel is not the only place where patience is running thinner than the rabid drool that comes from the mouths of Islamicists and other anti-Semites.

Another option is for us to simply stop funding places like Gaza, where families have 10+ children on the welfare teat, paid for by the West but not by their brothers in Islam. Places where men are obsessed with 'honor' but whose idea of honor doesn't seem to extend to working hard, earning your own way and taking responsibility for your own lives. Or even to such basic steps as telling the truth to themselves and to others.

We might also want to stop funding these same people when they migrate to Britain and other Western countries. For Israeli doctors to stop treating Palestinian children and elderly in their hospitals.

And for us to tell you all it's time for you to stop blaming the Jews - or the West - and to acknowledge the huge failures of Islamic culture and countries for the last 1000+ years.

Posted by lotp 2010-03-17 16:51|| 2010-03-17 16:51|| Front Page Top

#32 could be the beginning of the end for Israel as a Jewish state...

LOL - I get the impression "hunterkiller" is typing that one-handed

Posted by Frank G 2010-03-17 18:08|| 2010-03-17 18:08|| Front Page Top

#33 Egypt, jordan Russia ,China and the Palestinians are well paid to not attack Israel.

*snicker* *snort* *bam!!*
Ow! Dammit, hunterkiller, I just fell off my chair 'cause I was laughing so hard! Nobody with at least two brain cells to rub together and the ability to read could even conceive of the notion that China and Russia could be paid enough to do or not do anything, especially when it involves some piddling little never-ending Middle Eastern squabble. Honest to God, you are the stupidist troll we've had wander through here in all the years I've been paying attention.

tu3031, he's not a bedwetter any more because his mother discovered Attends. If you drive past the neighborhood the stench no longer makes your eyes water.

Posted by trailing wife 2010-03-17 19:07|| 2010-03-17 19:07|| Front Page Top

#34 It is truly no wonder why the approval ratings of Rantburg are so low

Hey, hunterkiller, if your mouse isn't too sticky to work, could you provide a link please?

Posted by gorb 2010-03-17 20:02|| 2010-03-17 20:02|| Front Page Top

#35 working from memory, the biblical "kill them all" bit was a commandment to Saul (king before David). That Saul did not was the causation for his fall from favor and eventual replacement by David and David's line. later in the book of Nehemiah we see one of the decedents of those spared by Saul causing trouble and attempting to prevent the restoration of Jerusalem and the Temple. History continues to repeat itself.

Posted by abu do you love 2010-03-17 21:26|| 2010-03-17 21:26|| Front Page Top

#36 Besides, the relatively few Arabs that did leave Israel did so because their 'leaders' required it, not because they were driven out. The ones that stayed have a relatively good life today.

Posted by KBK 2010-03-17 21:40|| 2010-03-17 21:40|| Front Page Top

#37 "now is the best time for the Palestinians to shut up and make a deal. If they miss this chance, the survivors will end up with their options substantially reduced."

Remember what Abba Eban said, rammer - Arabs never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

Expect nothing logical from those losers.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2010-03-17 21:47|| 2010-03-17 21:47|| Front Page Top

#38 It is truly no wonder why the approval ratings of Rantburg are so low

Why would Fred care? He established Rantburg for his own amusement, not as a commercial venture, and as a result it's a very narrow interest site. Not at all the kind of thing that would attract large numbers like the filmstar gossip sites.

More importantly, those who understand the issues this site addresses do rate it highly. It's like getting high marks from physics professors rather than amateur photographers... Oh wait -- Rantburg counts both among regular readers. Also Special Forces and State Department johnnies, and the Instapundit, but we shouldn't expect a law professor who runs one of the most popular sites on the web know about such things.

Do try again, dear Mr. hunterkiller.

Posted by trailing wife 2010-03-17 22:50|| 2010-03-17 22:50|| Front Page Top

#39 hunterkiller=internet badass. post name and location someone like me can kick the shit out of you

Posted by chris 2010-03-17 23:25|| 2010-03-17 23:25|| Front Page Top

#40 Ya mean that vacuum cleaner trying to be sold to me was....used?

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