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2009-05-15 Economy

California Formally Requests TARP Bailout

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Posted by Cornsilk Blondie 2009-05-15 05:37|| || Front Page|| [6 views ] Top

#1 ...warning that depressed tax revenues may cut into basic services and halt the building of infrastructure.

Cause every service is essential and every dollar spent by the Gov is critical to the very existence of the world. [How the heck did they manage in the 60s when they didn't have a gazillion programs and entitlements?]

Take TARP and become a territory again. Your Senators and Representatives lose their votes in Congress until [some Southern states have had this experience] you get your house back in order.

Posted by Procopius2k 2009-05-15 09:31|| 2009-05-15 09:31|| Front Page Top

#2 Lockyer estimated that California's cash flow shortfall in fiscal 2009-2010 will be more than $13 billion.

And the Fed's 2009-1010 shortfall will be about $3 trillion. Lockyear does realize that the Obama admin will spend $2 for every $1 it takes in taxes this year? This year's Fed deficit of $1.8-2.0 trillion is more than the entire capital spending of the entire United States, even in a good year. In terms daytime TV viewers can understand, it's as if the fat Oprah was loosed upon America's seed corn reserves and there won't be any left for planting next year.

Posted by ed 2009-05-15 10:17|| 2009-05-15 10:17|| Front Page Top

#3 I could cut 10% from the California budget with a day's work. Let me have Old Spook, TW, tu3031 and Badanov and I'll cut 25% by the end of a week. tu3031 and I would be rendering the books, Old Spook would glare menacingly at the now-terrified legislators, Bad would rewire their computers, and TW would be swinging the periwinkle Cluebat of Destiny right and left.

Posted by Steve White 2009-05-15 10:17|| 2009-05-15 10:17|| Front Page Top

#4 Move Gitmo crowd to Alcatraz. Begin self-help inmate rehab of facility immediately upon their arrival. Pocket SECDEF Gate's $ 50m from operational day one! Charge another $ 50m per year in detainee tuition, Red Cross swimming classes, room & board, etc.

Posted by Besoeker 2009-05-15 10:30|| 2009-05-15 10:30|| Front Page Top

#5 Will non-Californian taxpayers now get to vote in Californian elections?

Posted by charger 2009-05-15 10:41|| 2009-05-15 10:41|| Front Page Top

#6 Steve White,
I doubt you could cut 10% from their budget. The problem is that the overwhelming majority of their budget (like the Feds and the other states) is either contracturally obligated (and thus only modified by bankruptcy or Obama intervention) or required by court order.

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2009-05-15 11:21|| 2009-05-15 11:21|| Front Page Top

#7 charger,
Will non-Californian taxpayers now get to vote Only if they're illegal immigrants.

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2009-05-15 11:22|| 2009-05-15 11:22|| Front Page Top

#8 As California goes, so goes the nation. When California goes up, we get the trickle down from their sucess. In Oregon we calls this trickle down "golden rain". When things are bad in California they may not get quite as bad elsewhere, but it lasts longer.

Posted by Richard of Oregon 2009-05-15 11:44|| 2009-05-15 11:44|| Front Page Top

#9 I doubt you could cut 10% from their budget. The problem is that the overwhelming majority of their budget (like the Feds and the other states) is either contracturally obligated (and thus only modified by bankruptcy or Obama intervention) or required by court order.

Not true. When the Richmond school district went bankrupt several years ago it was noted that administrators outnumbered the teachers. Same is true in agencies across the state. The bureaucracy is bloated and overpaid. An across the board headcount reduction of 10% wouldn't even be noticed by recipients of state services.

Posted by DoDo 2009-05-15 11:53|| 2009-05-15 11:53|| Front Page Top

#10 A message will be sent loud and clear next Tuesday how Californians feel about our FAT state government.

Posted by crazyhorse 2009-05-15 12:23|| 2009-05-15 12:23|| Front Page Top

#11 Move Gitmo crowd to Alcatraz. Begin self-help inmate rehab of facility immediately upon their arrival. Pocket SECDEF Gate's $ 50m from operational day one! Charge another $ 50m per year in detainee tuition, Red Cross swimming classes, room & board, etc.

The money's tempting but I think we'd save even more if we moved all the state legislators to Alcatraz. But, hey, Alcatraz prolly has room for Gitmo detainees and the legislators too. Maybe the Gitmo guys would convert the legislators to Islam.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2009-05-15 12:35|| 2009-05-15 12:35|| Front Page Top

#12 come on over, Army of Steves -- CA Rantburgers (and Lizards -- quite a lot of them in the Greater Bay Area as well as So Cal) are standing by to launch Operation "Those Pork-Busters Came In -- Cleanin' Up The Town". With unlicensed nuclear particle accelerators in all our backpacks (they only LOOK like leaf-blowers).

And afterwards, popcorn, tea, and cookies.

Posted by Querent 2009-05-15 13:10|| 2009-05-15 13:10|| Front Page Top

#13 How to raise $13 Billion.

Enforce excessive noise regulations on Harley's.

$100 fine first offense
$200 fine second offense
$500 fine third offense
Forth offense confiscate the motorcycle and sell it to Chinese.

There, California budget shortfall problem solved.

Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2009-05-15 13:18|| 2009-05-15 13:18|| Front Page Top

#14 The state and local governments are REALLY desperate for revenue these days. Just yesterday I saw 2 motorcycle cops writing tickets to high school students on their bikes. They've already overharvested speeders on the freeways.

Posted by Iblis 2009-05-15 13:35|| 2009-05-15 13:35|| Front Page Top

#15 I think every person who wants to govern must first build a successful Sim City, City, it looks like most have no idea how a city works at all.

Make it a requirement and weed out all the idiot wannabes running today's cities.

Posted by Redneck Jim">Redneck Jim 2009-05-15 16:03|| 2009-05-15 16:03|| Front Page Top

#16 remove the ninth circus
delete the current state senate and house in a chapt 7 bankruptcy
hold new elections with both current parties disbarred.

Posted by 3dc 2009-05-15 22:33|| 2009-05-15 22:33|| Front Page Top

#17 GERMANY is also "broke", ala FREEREPUBLIC.

OTOH, since the Ninth declared the USA an illegal and unconsitutional nation anyhoos, it should be fine and legal for DA ARNUUUULD to seek independent = sovereign CA State bailout from CHINA, widout that pesky USGovt = Congressional permission, oversight, etc thingys???

Posted by JosephMendiola 2009-05-15 23:57|| 2009-05-15 23:57|| Front Page Top

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