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2007-09-12 Home Front: WoT
Al Qaeda's "Perfect Day" or ... an American Beslan?
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Posted by charger 2007-09-12 00:00|| || Front Page|| [2 views ]  Top
 File under: al-Qaeda 

#1 It's still 9-11 for me here in Silicon Valley. Here's two of the major excerpts:

What was found in an insurgent, an Al-Qaeda affiliated safehouse over in Iraq, they were school blueprints, basically, floor plans for schools across the country. San Diego, California, West Salem, Oregon, Boyertown, Pennsylvania, schools in Texas, Virginia, New Jersey, and this was very, very disconcerting and there was a cover story that was concocted that, hey, this was just some Iraqis who were involved with the Ministry of Education in Iraq and they're looking to rebuild their schools and all that kind of BS.

[snip]

There's eight hours of tape that we found in Pakistan in another Al-Qaeda training camp, eight hours of tape where they made a mock American school. The guy, the terrorists came in and they took mock American students, they took one little boy and they shot him in the head immediately and then in English said, "Now follow our directions exactly." It's how to take over an American school. It's eight hours of tape. Only an hour of it has been seen by American law enforcement officials here in America.


An American Beslan x 100. That's what these bastards want. Either we start blasting Pakistani madrassas to hell or—if these maggots pull this off in America—there's going to be a Muslim "kristallnacht" across the United States.

I've lost all patience with Islam. It is the epitome of evil. Plotting the deaths of thousands of young children goes so far beyond the pale as to enter the gates of Hell. In the aftermath of such an atrocity I can only hope that Pakistan would cease to exist. This farce must end.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-09-12 01:08||   2007-09-12 01:08|| Front Page Top

#2 You know, I find myself not reading articles if Zenster is the last commenter. He seems to write the same things, day after day, with no new insight or anything interesting to say.
Posted by gromky 2007-09-12 02:49||   2007-09-12 02:49|| Front Page Top

#3 Okay, I am the last one now, grоmky, if it makes you feel ess reticent... Who knows, it may be important to read it... Especially if you have kids less than 15 yrs old. I am not saying that the scenario presented in the article will necessarily play itself out, but forewarned is forearmed.
Posted by twobyfour 2007-09-12 03:11||   2007-09-12 03:11|| Front Page Top

#4 Golly gee. Where have I ever commented on an Islamic plot to murder thousands of American children? Answer: Never. Where have I ever predicted a Muslim "kristallnacht" in America? Answer: Never. Go ahead, search to your heart's content. Sure enough, maybe the same old shit is your whiney crap and not what I post.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-09-12 03:15||   2007-09-12 03:15|| Front Page Top

#5 Se also NEWSMAX > WORLD WAR IV IS HERE article.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2007-09-12 03:48||   2007-09-12 03:48|| Front Page Top

#6 Schools seem to rank high on terrorists list of things to do. That group of seven in Portland, Oregon some years back had plans to attack the two main Jewish schools there but one of them objected so they discarded the idea. Another one of them even said they didn't want to do it unless they could kill at least 200 children or something like that. I don't know if he was setting the goal way out of reach so the rest wouldn't go there or he was trying to prove that he was the better muslim, but they were still talking about it.

Taking out schools accomplishes several goals I suppose, the biggest ones probably being to cow the population and also to start the cycle of ignorance that leads to extremism. That may work great in the developing world, but here in the US it might get the sleeping giant to open an eye and roll over to check things out, complain a bit, and take a swat or two at the problem; only to go back to sleep a year or two later. Again. Heck, some individuals might even get hoppin' mad and kill a few muslims they see walking around, but who cares? And why not take out a school or two? You go to heaven as a martyr and those muslims left behind can fend for themselves, maybe becoming martyrs in the process as well. I dunno, Zen. The MSM would have to get involved on a long-term basis. Maybe even by airing this story and those like it. Or insisting the "footwashers" be removed from airports, or that muslims allow dogs to ride in their cabs without complaining, or some other drastic politically incorrect measures like quick-n-easy surveillance/deportation/incarceration of suspicious parties like those doing weird stuff in airplanes or around transportation/infrastructure centers.
Posted by gorb 2007-09-12 05:01||   2007-09-12 05:01|| Front Page Top

#7 I went to Boyertown Area Senior High School in the 1980's!! It rocks my world to see it mentioned in the article. Boyertown, while large, is the only HS in a very large district -- it's kind of a "back water". It's grown since I was a kid. But it's the type of place where a bearded or hijabed muslim would really stand out!

Now I live, and school my children, in Falls Church VA -- the epicenter of political-terrorist "mainstream" islam in the US. There are stretches of Route 7 here where you're suprised NOT to see a hijab!

BTW -- I'm a Zen fan. One of the few who seem as frustrated as me.
Posted by Captain Lewis 2007-09-12 08:02||   2007-09-12 08:02|| Front Page Top

#8 If I commented often, I would sound like Zenster also (without the Thesaurus). I am frustrated like Z and Capt'n Lewis. ROPMA. I'm sick and tired of hearing the PC platitudes. Perhaps an American Beslan will wake up the sheeple here that we face more than one existential threats.

I blame the right because they should know better. This is just who the left are: when a dog urinates on a fire hydrant, he doesn't commit vandalism, he just being a dog.
Posted by SR-71 2007-09-12 08:20||   2007-09-12 08:20|| Front Page Top

#9 Only about 10% of my comments are ever actually posted. I'm afraid of getting sink trapped. Words can't really express the frustration, anger and desire to destroy what I see externally and internally as the greatest threat to the US: Demonrats + followers of allen. So I refrain except on rare occasions just to avoid ending up moderated:)

Posted by Silentbrick">Silentbrick  2007-09-12 09:23||   2007-09-12 09:23|| Front Page Top

#10 I enjoy Zenster's comments and agree 150% with his comments.
Posted by Brett 2007-09-12 10:06||   2007-09-12 10:06|| Front Page Top

#11 Bin Laden has said what we did in Russia, we will visit 100 times worse in America. He's even gotten a religious edict allowing him to kill up to two million American children and what they are looking for is a school where the girls are old enough to rape and the boys are too small to fight back.

Every word of that sentence is true and yet we do nothing to preempt what is coming. We watched it happen at Beslan and the world blamed... the Russians. The world will blame us too. The "left" will blame us. Oprah will ask us to "understand"; as if there was anything left to understand about the rape-cult.
Posted by Excalibur 2007-09-12 10:23||   2007-09-12 10:23|| Front Page Top

#12 "Perhaps an American Beslan will wake up the sheeple here that we face more than one existential threats."

Yeah…right SR-71. And perhaps my grandmother needs to bust her hip so she doesn’t fall down the stairs and really hurts herself.
Posted by DepotGuy 2007-09-12 10:51||   2007-09-12 10:51|| Front Page Top

#13 Your point, DG? No sane person wants another Beslan, but do you disagree that this country is asleep? Our willful denial will bring the atrocities upon us.
Posted by SR-71 2007-09-12 11:18||   2007-09-12 11:18|| Front Page Top

#14 Schools are easy targets, even maladjusted suicidal children with access to guns have discovered that. If a school is attacked by Al Queda, even Ward Churchill can't claim schoolchildren are little Eichmans. Some will continue to blame Bush but the rest will go berserk.

Of course I could be wrong, I thought Beslan was gonna convice the Russians to stop playing footsy with Islamists.
Posted by rjschwarz 2007-09-12 12:59||   2007-09-12 12:59|| Front Page Top

#15 Maybe an 'American Beslan' would provide us with the resolve and momentum we need to take care of the muslim problem on a much wider scale. God forbid that it should happen, but in one sense, if it causes our nation to accept the fact that islam is the problem, and not terrorism, it could prove beneficial in the long run.

Unfortunately, history is replete with examples of nations needing to be pushed to the brink before they finally decide to wake up and take decisive action to preserve their way of life.
Posted by mcsegeek1 2007-09-12 14:52||   2007-09-12 14:52|| Front Page Top

#16 The big lesson of Beslan for the Russians was that their troops need more training.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-09-12 14:54||   2007-09-12 14:54|| Front Page Top

#17 "If a school is attacked by Al Queda, even Ward Churchill can't claim schoolchildren are little Eichmans."

Gee, talk about being pathetically naive...!
Posted by E. Brown 2007-09-12 15:08|| saturninretrograde.blogspot.com]">[saturninretrograde.blogspot.com]  2007-09-12 15:08|| Front Page Top

#18 Things will be the same on the left if America is attacked in this way. We deserved it. Bush's fault. Root causes. Understanding and fucking kumbiah.

It will push the fence sitters that want terrorists killed, but not the hate cult rooted out into full "let's defeat these assholes once and for all" mode. I would fully expect to see people retaliate against any Muzzies here.
Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader  2007-09-12 15:46||   2007-09-12 15:46|| Front Page Top

#19 Geez, ya think so? Even with people like this leading us...

BOSTON — Gov. Deval L. Patrick urged families mourning losses from the Sept. 11 attacks to open their hearts in an effort to move on from the day six years ago when two Boston-based flights slammed into the World Trade Center.

Ragged clouds hung around the golden dome of the Statehouse as family members watched the flag rise in memory of the victims on the sixth anniversary of the attacks.

"It was a mean and nasty and bitter attack," Patrick said. "But it was also a failure of human beings to understand each other and to learn to love."
Posted by tu3031 2007-09-12 15:59||   2007-09-12 15:59|| Front Page Top

#20 I dunno, Zen. The MSM would have to get involved on a long-term basis. Maybe even by airing this story and those like it. Or insisting the "footwashers" be removed from airports, or that muslims allow dogs to ride in their cabs without complaining, or some other drastic politically incorrect measures like quick-n-easy surveillance/deportation/incarceration of suspicious parties like those doing weird stuff in airplanes or around transportation/infrastructure centers.

Works for me, gorb. I just hope like hell it doesn't require this sort of insanity to activate America's citizens. The mental scar of so many parents losing their children would leave a rent in our social fabric that would take years—if not decades—to heal. What greater example do we need of Islam's incredible inhumanity?

Captain Lewis, SR-71, Brett, Excalibur and so many others, please know that I genuinely appreciate your support. As I noted, it was still 9-11 for me in Silicon Valley when I read this article. It really hit home just how evil the Muslim mind can be. I'll leave it at that.

Captain Lewis, I also would like to mention how you were one of the only others here who had the courage to mention how Bush's fundamentalism and sense of religiosity was a likely cause of his blindness to Islam's vile agenda.

I have taken repeated brickbats at Rantburg for positing this connection. Much to my astonishment, others who have posted the exact same conclusion—like yourself—have gotten a totally free pass. I'm hoping that due to your observations and similar ones by others, this idea may finally have gained some traction here. Personally, I find very few other ways of explaining why Bush continues to spew the Religion of Peace [spit] meme. I certainly refuse to believe Bush is so corrupt that his conflicting ties with Saudi Arabia oblige him to intentionally mislead America on this count.

Our willful denial will bring the atrocities upon us.

SR-71, this remains one of the most deeply disturbing aspects of all. It is why I continue to hold Bush accountable for misleading the American public about Islam's core doctrine of violence and global domination.

Just as in no way can I ever believe that America "deserved" the 9-11 atrocity, neither can I agree that we "need" an even more devastating attack to awaken our country to Islam's threat. My belief in this has caused me to begin considering that the majority of America's political body constitute a Traitor Elite. Be it through their pursuit of Multiculturalism or its handmaiden—Political Correctness—America's body politic appears to have foresaken its sworn duty to "Support and Defend the Constitution of the United States".

Confronted with an enemy already lodged upon our shores whose avowed goal is the destruction of American constitutional law, we are greeted with mealy-mouthed blandishments and intentional underassessments of this threat. It is the solemn duty of our elected leadership to make America aware of each new enemy to its welfare. Almost across the board this vital obligation has been actively neglected by our politicians.

We do not need another more hideous atrocity to awaken America. We need moral and ethical leadership that is willing to communicate clearly the nature of what assails our nation's integrity. Such a message cannot be forthcoming from those who have intentionally opted to undermine America's strength through their misguided or malign liberalism, financial corruption or mixed allegiance and tainted loyalty.

This is the real problem and any renewed assaults upon American soil are the direct responsibility of our elected politicians who refuse to act coherently against this threat.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-09-12 16:12||   2007-09-12 16:12|| Front Page Top

#21 "It was a mean and nasty and bitter attack," Patrick said. "But it was also a failure of human beings to understand each other and to learn to love."

Eff almighty, tu3031, thank you for proving my point in spades.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-09-12 16:15||   2007-09-12 16:15|| Front Page Top

#22 The real hard core Left don't change their minds---they can't (cf. Israeli Left after a decade of daily terrorist attacks).
Posted by gromgoru 2007-09-12 16:16||   2007-09-12 16:16|| Front Page Top

#23 "Bush's fundamentalism and sense of religiosity was a likely cause of his blindness to Islam's vile agenda."

The problem with this conclusion, Zen, is that an OVERWHELMING majority of fundamentalists understand the threat from Islamostalinism, and would be in favor of a much more Western type response than W has been. It must therefore be deduced that it is something other than fundamentalism that informs W's policies.

Other than that, everything else in your post is spot on.
Posted by no mo uro 2007-09-12 16:36||   2007-09-12 16:36|| Front Page Top

#24 DG: Yeah…right SR-71. And perhaps my grandmother needs to bust her hip so she doesn’t fall down the stairs and really hurts herself.

I think SR-71 is saying that he hopes they do something like Beslan before they get round to exploding a few nukes stateside. A Beslan would be a wake-up call so that we will take the measures necessary to prevent a terrorist nuclear attack.
Posted by Zhang Fei 2007-09-12 16:48|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com]  2007-09-12 16:48|| Front Page Top

#25 I don't wish for dire events, but even the most casual look around our nation reveals that our leadership and our people have turned a blind eye to the threat Islam poises. Bush, for whatever reason, continues to pretend that the garden-variety of Islam isn't interested in world supremacy. The left willfully ignores the horrific human rights abuses that occur daily in Islamic countries. The right and the left have combined to convince each other that either no real threat exists or that whatever threat is present can be "managed" rather than eradicated.

It will be a sad day indeed when the next 9-11-scale event occurs--it will be then that those with the right kind of eyes will recognize just exactly what the cost was of virtually ignoring Islam in the years that have intervened since the original 9/11 took place.
Posted by Crusader 2007-09-12 17:30||   2007-09-12 17:30|| Front Page Top

#26 There was a, BBC produced, Beslan documentary on last night, that was solely constructed around the thoughts, reflections and observations of the children that survived that particular 'day of infamy'. I reflect on what I saw and heard last night and then reflect on what Zen says and find it very hard to undestand how anyone can nit pick and find fault.

They are out there. They want to hurt us. Killing our children will hurt us and will bring them joy. I don't really care to much anymore about PCism, the niceties of political discourse or how our actions might effect the price of oil.

If the price I have to pay for the Saudi's being forced to 'deal' with the fanatics that they are incubating around the world, is riding a bike to work, so be it.

If putting Hezbollah out of business means landing an expeditionary force in Iran and igniting a full blown mid-eastern conflict, so be it.

If ending my fear, anger and loathing of what has been done throughout the civilized world by these purveyors of Islamic truth means that being Muslim means living in fear of me, the West or any other entity, so be it.

I want them so afraid for THEIR homes, families, children, places of worship, culture, future and place in the course of history that they would cringe at the thought of every harming anyone ever again.

Worked with Japan!!!!!

Sean Connery to Kevin Costner in the "Untouchables". "If they bring a knife, you bring a gun. If they put one of your's in the hospital, you put one of their's in the morgue." AMEN
Posted by Total War 2007-09-12 17:40||   2007-09-12 17:40|| Front Page Top

#27 #17 "If a school is attacked by Al Queda, even Ward Churchill can't claim schoolchildren are little Eichmans."

Gee, talk about being pathetically naive...!


Okay, perhaps he'd call them very little Eichmans.
Posted by rjschwarz 2007-09-12 17:46||   2007-09-12 17:46|| Front Page Top

#28 Oh for Christ's sake. The whole point of "Rantburg" is to get it off your chest. If anyone out there does not, at one time or another, just want to nuke the F*&K out the all things Islam then your not paying attention or involved. It does not mean any rational person would actually pull that trigger, but venting the frustrationis exactly what this site is all about! Zen says what we all feel at one time or another.
Posted by 49 Pan 2007-09-12 17:46||   2007-09-12 17:46|| Front Page Top

#29 I think rantburg is the right place to vent, but I also find both interest and supportive commentary, amusing andd scathing comments, and a relief from the mind-numbing business of looking at this stuff all day, everyday, and wondering what they are really going to do versus all the blah-blah.....
I find Zenster very singularly focused on topics I think are important and agree much more often than disagree with his comments.
And that part about no rational being actually wanting to pull the trigger...... hmmmmmm
Posted by JustAboutEnough 2007-09-12 19:06||   2007-09-12 19:06|| Front Page Top

#30 My $0.02: I hold with the ann coulter/zenster convert or deport or die treatment. That is for the muzzies here. Overseas, Convert or get herded into resevations. Or die. FWIW. I'm notvery handy with the thesaurus, and I do not want to sound like a broken record either.
Posted by N Guard 2007-09-12 19:15||   2007-09-12 19:15|| Front Page Top

#31 It must therefore be deduced that it is something other than fundamentalism that informs W's policies.

I'd dearly like to know what it is then because—whatever this purblind trait is—it needs to become a disqualifying criteria when considering all future candidates for the Presidency. no mo uro, or anyone else for that matter, any suggestions or theories about this?

I want them so afraid for THEIR homes, families, children, places of worship, culture, future and place in the course of history that they would cringe at the thought of every harming anyone ever again.

Spot on, Total War. Muslims must be made to be absolutely panic-stricken by the certain knowledge that each new terrorist atrocity will bring a rain of death and destruction upon some portion of the ummah. The fear felt by them must be so intense that they finally overcome all reluctance and begin lynching every single one of their jihadis and radical imams.

Only by inspiring Islam to clean its own house will Muslims have any chance of avoiding a holocaust of their own. Currently, all of us are being treated to the sordid spectacle of America attempting to clean Islam's house for them. Words cannot remotely express both the immense folly and incredible danger that such profound naiveté represents.

If anyone out there does not, at one time or another, just want to nuke the F*&K out the all things Islam then your not paying attention or involved.

Thank you, 49 Pan. I'm rapidly approaching that exact pole. While not totally overjoyed about having such extreme feelings, neither am I ashamed of them. Too much is at stake to not experience some serious frustration and wrath over Islam's monstrous crimes against humanity.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-09-12 20:01||   2007-09-12 20:01|| Front Page Top

#32 Zenster look here. Note that oil for food scum, Soros, Bushes and Clinton folks along with Chinese SEC, Bundesbank US SEC etc... are in the same company.

Think about it.
Posted by 3dc 2007-09-12 20:34||   2007-09-12 20:34|| Front Page Top

#33 oh and Binny's family used to be in it but now some other Saudis are.
Posted by 3dc 2007-09-12 20:35||   2007-09-12 20:35|| Front Page Top

#34 "I'd dearly like to know what it is then because—whatever this purblind trait is—it needs to become a disqualifying criteria when considering all future candidates for the Presidency. no mo uro, or anyone else for that matter, any suggestions or theories about this?"

I cannot say for sure.

Could be a sort of patrician, old-school internationalist thing that is present in wealthy families of old money like his. There certainly seems to be enough of that going around in those circles - based on my (limited)interactions with people like that, I would guess that that's a majority thing among them, but if there's data to prove me wrong, I'll retract that notion.

To take that one step further, it could be that he honestly believes that simply having boots on the ground in that region is enough, and that osmosis over a few decades will get the job done, much as the Cold War eventually did in the more severe forms of Communism. Horribly naive, IMO, since the two enemies are decidedly different and will therefore require different tactics to defeat. But it fits with his personality as I see it (again, I could be way off on that).

There is some data to support these conclusions. Look at W's record in fighting the other enemy in the three-way-war. If you remember back before 9/11, the whole business of the "new tone" and the compromises on education pork etc. His approach was considerably less than "take no prisoners" when dealing with the left. You couldn't call him a lefty, or say that he was really a softy. But he was not strident in battling them from the bully pulpit, either.

Many folks here on the 'burg - not a huge site by any stretch - have been able to articulate the threat of radical Islam not in a ham-handed or thuggish way, but in concise and dispassionate terms. Not everyone agrees on the exact verbiage to describe the threat (you tend towards one end, but other folks are a bit less direct), or the precise solution, but I've read literally dozens of various ways of expressing concern about the danger of an out of control Islam. Dozens. W and his speechwriters have dropped shells all around this target but only managed to hit it a few times.

And there it is, Zen, W's biggest problem is his inability to communicate effectively. I think he's good on most (DEFINITELY not all) issues from a philosophical standpoint but inept as hell when it comes to effectively articulating ideas to win over people.

The "purblind trait" to become a disqualifier for president may not be so much one's religious zeal, as it is taking notions from the frontal cortex to the microphone and camera. Had W gone upside Islam's head six years ago, we wouldn't be having this conversation. It seemed he wanted to. But he just couldn't get the words out.*

*Noting complicity of the MSM here.

Posted by no mo uro 2007-09-12 20:36||   2007-09-12 20:36|| Front Page Top

#35 
Whack the Saudi Royals, take custody of the oil...ALL the oil in ALL Mohammedan lands. STOMP the entire MME into matchsticks, nothing higher than 18 inches.

Grind their holy places and Mosques into powder and scatter them, force them to renounce Islam or die. Hold their culture and their people hostage for 10 generations. Whatever it takes to crush Islam.

Deportation, Internment or outright Slaughter, I don't care anymore. Our so-called leaders, political elites, they must think this is some grand game. They need to be dealt with too. Since I first became politically aware around the age of 14 - 15, I have watched this country slide into the cesspool of Leftism, for nearly 40 years.

It makes me sick. I do not even recognize my own country anymore. The neighborhood I grew up in, and the schools I attended are war zones now...barrio's. One single family home after another packed with illegals. It is past time to spit on our hands, raise the black flag and start lopping off heads.
Posted by Natural Law 2007-09-12 20:56||   2007-09-12 20:56|| Front Page Top

#36 Zen:

No Mo Uro summed up my theory on Bush's lack of calling a spade a spade in #34. I don't believe one iota it has anything to do with his personal belief system, as other have noted there are TONS of us Fundamentalists out here that DO recognize the evil Islam itself represents and the threat it represents to America (not to mention, many preachers calling for even more drastic measure to "git her done" in the MME now!). Heck, Jerry Falwell was calling for all-out war. Pat Robertson (a nutcase in his own right) was calling for assassinating Ahmadinijad. Trust me, the "religious right" sees this war in the same light the muzzies do, a HOLY war!

Otherwise, I think it's naivete on Bush's part (actaully, in reality, if you just consider those who carry out attacks as "violent", then Islam is fairly peaceful; but we know better...there's a whole war machine behind the "grunts" that are arming, preaching, financing and pushing the jihadis into this war). Naivete, mixed with some mealy-mouthed, inside the beltway POLITICAL CORRECTNESS. Not that I agree with his statements, but I do understand WHY he says what he says.

And, trust me, I've discussed this with several die-hard Democrats who have kids, and we ALL say, "If they pull off (or even try) a Beslan type attack here, there WILL be hell to pay on any remaining Muslims in the U.S." Of course, I had to inform them of what the real Beslan attack was about, but afterwards, they all feel the response should be the same as I do....total war.
Posted by BA 2007-09-12 22:03||   2007-09-12 22:03|| Front Page Top

#37 Oops, meant to add, I pretty much usually agree with what Zen says too.
Posted by BA 2007-09-12 22:04||   2007-09-12 22:04|| Front Page Top

#38 It does not mean any rational person would actually pull that trigger, but venting the frustration is exactly what this site is all about! Zen says what we all feel at one time or another.

49P, it's that the constantly loudest voices are those who never have had to do, or will have do, the heavy lifting.
Posted by Pappy 2007-09-12 22:41||   2007-09-12 22:41|| Front Page Top

#39 A small addendum, Zen. I am also one of those awful fundamentalists that you despise so much.
Posted by SR-71 2007-09-12 22:43||   2007-09-12 22:43|| Front Page Top

#40 no mo uro and BA, thank you for sincere and well-thought out replies. Definitely food for thought.

SR-71, you are very mistaken to think I hate all fundamentalists. What I despise is the hidebound and calcified mindset it too often engenders.

Pappy, if the military would take someone of my age, I would enlist right now. I've spent most of my life making contributions to America's technological success, much of it with military applications like SDI, Stealth and Laser Gyros, etc. I've also paid some pretty hefty dues riding the economic rollercoaster of Silicon Valley's economy. So, don't think I haven't made any sacrifices. I have also done my part in changing the way people think about Islam and the Global War on Terror. If that doesn't qualify as "heavy lifting", so be it. I happen to be very happy with my contributions, especially considering that I've made them armed with only a high school diploma.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-09-12 23:01||   2007-09-12 23:01|| Front Page Top

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