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2007-09-12 Israel-Palestine-Jordan

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Posted by lotp 2007-09-12 00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views ] Top
File under: Govt of Syria

#1 So it looks like they flew all the way across Syria, hit their targets, and flew all the way back across Syria. And Syria could do nothing about it?

heh heh heh... Change of underwear time there, Zippy?

Posted by tu3031 2007-09-11 16:23|| 2007-09-11 16:23|| Front Page Top

#2 It would be interesting to think, ponder, or spread the rumor, that an Israeli squadron continued into Iraq so the next time they can really baffle the Syrian air defences.

Posted by rjschwarz 2007-09-11 16:27|| 2007-09-11 16:27|| Front Page Top

#3 Just beautiful. The IAF is still a very effective force.

Just go poop yourself Zippy. Israel can end you whenever it wants too.

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2007-09-11 16:41|| 2007-09-11 16:41|| Front Page Top

#4 The fear uncertainty and doubt the rumor would generate would be delicious, but there is no way we could really allow it to happen. No way it would be kept secret from the iraqi people that we were letting the joooos use their territory to stage attacks on fellow muzz. More trouble than it would be worth. 'Course, if the fighters had US markings...

Posted by M. Murcek">M. Murcek 2007-09-11 16:43|| 2007-09-11 16:43|| Front Page Top

#5 Apparently, the Syrians fared no better against the heliborne element of the mission than they did against the IAF jets.

A splendid hint of what awaits further Syrian facilitation of Hezbollah. All that expensive Russian hardware was for shit up against some real warriors. There is absolutely no irony in the fact of how democratic, non-Islamic Israel has developed technology and trained a fighting force that can take apart surrounding Islamic militaries like a brat plucking the wings off of a fly.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-09-11 16:47|| 2007-09-11 16:47|| Front Page Top

#6 PS: One can only hope that Iran has taken note of this unopposed incursion against the same crappy hardware that the mullahs bought from Putin.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-09-11 16:50|| 2007-09-11 16:50|| Front Page Top

#7 Israel can end you whenever it wants too.

Well, there's no time like the present.

Posted by mcsegeek1 2007-09-11 17:00|| 2007-09-11 17:00|| Front Page Top

#8 There may be an awful lot of disinformation going on. For example, if planes flew East across northern Syria, it would have lit up their radar like a Christmas tree, so that is where their radar would have been pointed.

But what if they sent in fast aircraft to do just this, *while at the same time*, a much larger aircraft flew into Syrian from the West?

That is, say a C-130 carrying a bunker buster?

In other words, why would the Syrians have a major Command and Control bunker near the Euphrates river across the border from Iraq?

Posted by Anonymoose 2007-09-11 17:03|| 2007-09-11 17:03|| Front Page Top

#9 shhhhh 'Moose. ;-)

Posted by lotp 2007-09-11 17:20|| 2007-09-11 17:20|| Front Page Top

#10 The most astounding thing about this operation is that Olmert would allow it.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-09-11 17:24|| 2007-09-11 17:24|| Front Page Top

#11 You sure they told him ahead of time?

Posted by lotp 2007-09-11 17:28|| 2007-09-11 17:28|| Front Page Top

#12 If that map is right, the target was darn near in howitzer range of our forces in Iraq. And easy helicopter range. I think 'moose is onto something - even if he is directionally challenged. If that was the true target, and heliborne forces were involved, then they weren't speaking Hebrew.

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2007-09-11 19:05|| 2007-09-11 19:05|| Front Page Top

#13 It would take the syrians 30 years to understand a force protection multiplier. Therefore, it is a good idea for them to decide to not test this because we already know you are way in over your head anyway, syria.

Posted by newc">newc 2007-09-11 20:02|| 2007-09-11 20:02|| Front Page Top

#14 Any bets there are not more than a few Hebrew speaking "Arabic translators' working in Iraq? Maybe a few who wandered off (wink wink...)across the border?

Posted by Skunky Glins5285">Skunky Glins5285 2007-09-11 20:20|| http://john-smokegetsinmyeyes.blogspot.com/]">[http://john-smokegetsinmyeyes.blogspot.com/] 2007-09-11 20:20|| Front Page Top

#15 Maybe a snatch followed by a bunker-buster?

Nobody looks for vaporized Iranian brass.

Posted by mojo">mojo 2007-09-12 00:37|| 2007-09-12 00:37|| Front Page Top

#16 Might they have snagged one of the new Russia missiles for evaluation? If they blew the rest of it to kingdom come, who'd know?

Posted by gorb 2007-09-12 03:01|| 2007-09-12 03:01|| Front Page Top

#17 Wondering how Israelis knew precisely where to hit... There were some Israeli mil satellites launched recently, weren't they? Or wuzit local recon?

Posted by twobyfour 2007-09-12 03:31|| 2007-09-12 03:31|| Front Page Top

#18 A simple short-range training mission, but a handy dent placed in warstocks migrating into Iraq nonetheless. Future targets lie much, much further to the east. Thank you Syria! We greatly appreciate the radar signature reference points.

Posted by Besoeker 2007-09-12 04:59|| 2007-09-12 04:59|| Front Page Top

#19 Best news about Israel since last summer.

Posted by badanov 2007-09-12 06:40|| http://www.freefirezone.org]">[http://www.freefirezone.org] 2007-09-12 06:40|| Front Page Top

#20 Oopsies: Just looked at the calender

Since August, 2006.

The Israelis are back.

Posted by badanov 2007-09-12 06:41|| http://www.freefirezone.org]">[http://www.freefirezone.org] 2007-09-12 06:41|| Front Page Top

#21 The raid was also a wake-up call for Damascus and Tehran, reminding them that the IDF can reach remote targets with air and ground forces.

Lets hope its also a wake-up call to W and the DoD that its possible and achievable to use a pre-emptive strike including SOF on Tehran and Pakistan/NFP/Waziristan. Me thinks that the IDF was a bogie in all this and we just wanted to gauge the Syrian AD reaction. I would think Iranian AD can't be that much better if they are also just now coming into new systems from the Ruskies.

Posted by Jack is Back!">Jack is Back! 2007-09-12 11:05|| 2007-09-12 11:05|| Front Page Top

#22 Did anyone check the site for radioactivity? The latest posting about NK selling Syria and Iran nukes would give good reason for a big hole in the desert.

Posted by Danielle 2007-09-12 11:28|| 2007-09-12 11:28|| Front Page Top

#23 I wonder if Israeli helicopters have aerial refueling capability. If they do, then no place in the Middle East is safe.

Al

Posted by Frozen Al 2007-09-12 11:36|| 2007-09-12 11:36|| Front Page Top

#24 #23 I wonder if Israeli helicopters have aerial refueling capability. If they do, then no place in the Middle East is safe.

Aerial refueling is great, but it you've got a cow bird along and enough time to set down and establish a Forward Area Refuel Point (FARP) en route, you're golden.

Posted by Besoeker 2007-09-12 12:51|| 2007-09-12 12:51|| Front Page Top

#25 Re: Airborne refueling: all it takes is a C-130 with a drogue style package ( think USNavy, not USAF) and therequisite boom on the aircraft; no need to set up a gound station.
re: big hole: has anyone done the Google Earth-thing? i am ignorant on making that work with anysort of reliable results. i fall into the 'even a blind pig finds an acorn once in a while' category.

Posted by USN, Ret. 2007-09-12 14:06|| 2007-09-12 14:06|| Front Page Top

#26 your technology is only as effective as the people trained to use it

Posted by Ebbort de Medici7567 2007-09-12 16:09|| 2007-09-12 16:09|| Front Page Top

#27 Some comments on the comments:

We KNOW the Syrians have at least three SA-5 sites. One is in Homs, one is in Aleppo, and the other one is near Damascus. The SA-5 is a strategic weapon that was developed to counter the B-70 Valkyrie and the SR-71. They have very good radars. We know the Syrians also have SA-3 point defense systems, SA-6 mobile SAM systems, and a few SA-8 and SA-11 (improved SA-6) systems. They also have multiple batteries of radar-controlled AAA batteries, and dozens of mobile systems. The Pansyr system is new to me, at least by that name, but I think I know which one it is. The air defense threat from Syria is NOT minimal, yet if the graphic is correct, the Israelis completely stumped them. That's not something to sneeze about. I'm sure the Russians are in need of a change of underware, as well as the Iranians and Syrians. Hezbollah may be quaking in their boots, as well. As for WHERE they struck, I wonder if Israel hit some buried Iraqi WMDs.

Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot 2007-09-12 16:20|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2007-09-12 16:20|| Front Page Top

#28 Israel Strikes Back

I would be guessing... my guess is the missle plant provided by Iran and/or the new stuff provided by Russia or both.

OP, "I wonder if Israel hit some buried Iraqi WMDs."

..interesting thought... perhaps along with the/a Syrian WMD bio/chem manufacturing site.

Posted by Red Dawg">Red Dawg 2007-09-12 16:58|| 2007-09-12 16:58|| Front Page Top

#29 Sour grapes on the part of the Syrians; they got caught with their pants down, importing Nork nuclear components and or Iranian missiles! A Second 'Osirak strike' for Israel, and through the heart of Syrian defenses...most impressive!!

Posted by smn 2007-09-12 19:48|| 2007-09-12 19:48|| Front Page Top

#30 ...and a Syrian response.

"We think the Israeli purpose behind such an aggressive act is to torpedo the peace process, to torpedo the idea of holding an international conference," Syrian Ambassador Bashar Ja'afari told reporters.

Asked about Hezbollah's weapons, Ja'afari said, "This is blah, blah. This is nonsense, this is an unfounded statement. It is not up to the Israelis or anyone else to assess what we have in Syria."

"There was no target," he added. "They dropped their munitions. They were running away after they were confronted by our air defense."

I wonder how many dead generals funerals are being planned in Syria tonight?

Posted by tu3031 2007-09-12 20:43|| 2007-09-12 20:43|| Front Page Top

#31 Look for an increase in Russian contract-personnel and air cargo flights.

Might also be a good time to boost surveillance of Suez canal and the Gibraltar/Dardanelles straits.

Posted by Pappy 2007-09-12 20:48|| 2007-09-12 20:48|| Front Page Top

#32 I wonder how many dead generals funerals are being planned in Syria tonight?

You can bet that in the very near future some of Syria's top brass for Air Defense are going to suffer "Adult Sudden Death Syndrome".

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-09-12 23:11|| 2007-09-12 23:11|| Front Page Top

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