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2006-01-07 Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Iran issues new threat to Europe
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Posted by Dan Darling 2006-01-07 01:14|| || Front Page|| [11133 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 ROFL!

"Shape up, Dhimmis, or you'll force us to do what we've already been doing!"

YJCMTSU.
Posted by .com 2006-01-07 01:24||   2006-01-07 01:24|| Front Page Top

#2 Larijani has compared the talks on Iran's nuclear programme to a chess game. "In this game, we are for a result that will be satisfactory to both Iran and Europe," said Larijani adding that "if we lose, the same will also happen to the other party (Europe) and they will have to prepare themselves to live in a hell."

um...and how is that like chess?
Posted by 2b 2006-01-07 01:29||   2006-01-07 01:29|| Front Page Top

#3 Meet the new improved threat, same as the old threat. Now with 40% more spittle!
Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious  2006-01-07 01:32||   2006-01-07 01:32|| Front Page Top

#4 If it weren't for the fact that these guys will eventually nuke NY or DC I'd actually be enjoying this show.
Posted by AzCat 2006-01-07 01:35||   2006-01-07 01:35|| Front Page Top

#5 
Iran issues new threat to Europe
Which is different from the old threat how, exactly?

No matter. Europe rolled over and went back to sleep anyway.
Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut  2006-01-07 01:43|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html]  2006-01-07 01:43|| Front Page Top

#6 I wonder if we're going to wait until these nutballs actually nuke someone before we take them out. I certainly hope not but I'm afraid that will be the way it plays out. We should be giving them a 48 hour ultimatum starting tomorrow telling them that if they don't depose Ahmedinejad and destroy their nuke installations immediately their whole country will shortly thereafter become a radioactive wasteland.
Posted by mac 2006-01-07 02:05||   2006-01-07 02:05|| Front Page Top

#7 Which is different from the old threat how, exactly? lol!
Posted by 2b 2006-01-07 02:07||   2006-01-07 02:07|| Front Page Top

#8 oh for fcks sake lets just Atomize these fck wits!!! i'm getting sick of their gobbing off.
Posted by Shep UK 2006-01-07 05:48||   2006-01-07 05:48|| Front Page Top

#9 You must understand the "soft power" of Germany and France is achieving results! They are not the desired results but they are results. I wonder when the UK is going to wake up?
Posted by Sock Puppet O´ Doom 2006-01-07 06:10||   2006-01-07 06:10|| Front Page Top

#10 "stronger words for the United States. "A small error on the part of USA or the Zionists will be enough to induce us to unleash hell," said Larijani. "They know this very well and for this they haven't gone further than a verbal or psychological war," he said."

Did he just say "your mama"? This group needs to decapped.
Posted by TomAnon 2006-01-07 09:04||   2006-01-07 09:04|| Front Page Top

#11 We are going to sit here and watch them build the bombs, debate if they will use them, until they do, and then spend the rest of our kids lives trying to clean it up. I am not a preacher of doom, this is real, they have issued their intent, and will follow through with it. Our options are limited, one we complain to the UN and watch the inevidable attack happen. Or we can build the plan and execute it before they destroy a few good cities in this world. We are not debating their intent anymore, we are debating on if we should wait for them to strike or to preempt it.
Posted by 49 Pan">49 Pan  2006-01-07 09:06||   2006-01-07 09:06|| Front Page Top

#12 .........and when Israel steps up and at least takes out their nuke facilities the gentle west will condem the Zionist aggressors.

Jeebus Batman.
Posted by RJB in JC MO 2006-01-07 09:26||   2006-01-07 09:26|| Front Page Top

#13 A strategy based on dialogue? They don't even show up for the meetings anymore. And when they do they just say they will never give one inch on enriching uranium. All they are doing now is jerking off the EUnicks to buy a little more time to build a crude bomb. They see NKOR getting away with it and think they'll give it a try. They are an insignificant little stain on the world. And what is this "Hell" they speak of? $5 gas? Thats about the only thing they can fuck up worse than it is now.
Posted by bigjim-ky 2006-01-07 10:38||   2006-01-07 10:38|| Front Page Top

#14 This is freekin great, the EU panzies are being punked out like the panzies they are. I think the European people are a stong people who just need to see thier leaders for what they are peace-love-&-happiness mentality panzies.

Sometime in the near future:::::
Following this press conference the UN made a responce were the EU negotiator was speaking to reporters then all the sudden the Iranian delegate walked up behind straight smacked the EU guy in the back of the head in mid talk then the Iranian guy proceededs to step forward make a quick "dont mind my b*tch she talks out of turn sometimes" then deliver a scathing verbal attack on the Big Satan and Little Satan, all the while the EU delegate shrinks into the background head down.
Posted by C-Low 2006-01-07 11:11||   2006-01-07 11:11|| Front Page Top

#15 LMAO, indeed, .com! Listen to our monologues and threats or we will continue our nuclear weapons program unabated, anyway. The EUniks are negotiating from a position of strong weakness. Appeasement and dhimmitude is just around the corner. I swear, this is a mad hatters' tea party---appeasing EUniks on one side and Mad Mullahs on the other. And the EUniks are college educated. They must have got a special dispensation to not have to take logic class. You just cannot make this sh**te up.
Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul  2006-01-07 11:20||   2006-01-07 11:20|| Front Page Top

#16 Either we're incredibly stupid to let the Black Hats and the Europeans continue this senseless charade, or we must be very, very certain Iran isn't going to finish its nuke anytime soon.

Islamism should have been crushed back in 1979.
Posted by Dave D.">Dave D.  2006-01-07 11:54||   2006-01-07 11:54|| Front Page Top

#17 Up to now America hasn't done anything more concerning Iran's threat than Europe has. So why can't you keep your mockery about Europe's weakness for a time when you indeed prove more efficient? If ever?
Posted by Aris Katsaris 2006-01-07 12:38||   2006-01-07 12:38|| Front Page Top

#18 Bite me, "defender against Fascism©". Europe has enabled the Iranian program with materials and parts and enabled the continued development by their weak-kneed "diplomacy" in which they set meetings and the Iranians don't show. Your beloved Europe will decry the efforts when the adults actually do something about it as well. Whiny pussies and procrastinating jerks seem to have the megaphone there, don't they? Go back to your caped crusade against fascists. Let us know when you actually do something
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-01-07 12:46||   2006-01-07 12:46|| Front Page Top

#19 Europe told us to STFU after ahrd power screwed up so much in Afghanistan and Iraq. The Euros were going to show us how it is done with soft power. So we didn't do anything while the EU3 carried the ball. Well, they've shown us and it looks like hard power will be requiried again. We're 2-0. The Euros are 0-1, 0-2 if you count the brilliant successes of soft power in the Balkans. The Euros needed Clinton's insertion of international hard power to deal with that one. We look pretty damn efficient to me.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-01-07 13:00||   2006-01-07 13:00|| Front Page Top

#20 Because, Aris, at this point - their bombs can only reach you and not us.
Posted by 2b 2006-01-07 13:03||   2006-01-07 13:03|| Front Page Top

#21 And what is this "Hell" they speak of? $5 gas? Thats about the only thing they can fuck up worse than it is now.

How about this:

Iran has successfully tested its Shahab-3 missiles...firing them off of freighters and detonating them at high elevations.

According to President Reagan's chief scientific advisor, William E. Graham, the sole purpose of a test like that would be to detonate nukes at high elevations...creating EMP nukes (electro-magnetic pulse nukes.)

EMP nukes fired from the Atlantic and detonated over the east coast would shut down all the electricity as far as Chicago and St. Louis and cover the entire east coast.

There would be no refrigeration, tap water, working toilets, trucks, cars, etc.

It would result in chaos and pestilence for half the country.

(From a comment on "Adventures of Chester" by the owner to one of his posts .)

If this is credible (comments?), one each launched from the Atlantic, the Pacific and the Mediterranean would provide a pretty good facsimile of Hell for the West.

Faster, please.
Posted by Omath Craling9476 2006-01-07 13:07||   2006-01-07 13:07|| Front Page Top

#22 I'm sure that once they've obliterated a few cities, the UN will unleash the ultimate weapon: a strongly worded letter of displeasure. (tm)

Thanks, Jimmah, for letting this clown live back in 1979.
Posted by Desert Blondie 2006-01-07 13:32|| http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com ]">[http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com ]  2006-01-07 13:32|| Front Page Top

#23 Bite me, "defender against Fascism©".

*Takes bite out of Frank*
*Chews carefully*
*Spits out as rotten*

Your beloved Europe will decry the efforts when the adults actually do something about it as well

Will it? You prophet you. Ofcourse *much of it* will indeed decry it, same as much of the United States will decry it. That comes from living in a pluralist society.

But didn't more than half of "my beloved Europe"'s nations support the American invasion of Iraq, a fact which Rantburgers remember when it suits them, and forget whenever it's time for their true feelings to come forth?

Didn't I keep on hearing "Thank you Poland", "Thank you Bulgaria", "Thank you Italy", "Thank you United Kingdom", etc, etc, etc and all the pretense gratitude feelings -- until ofcourse it was again time for Rantburgers' true everlasting contempt for everything-not-American to spew forth like vomit?

Same old, same old. Pretense gratitude, pretense thanks, pretense feelings of camaraderie, followed like clockwork by real contempt.

The Euros were going to show us how it is done with soft power. So we didn't do anything while the EU3 carried the ball.

*Really*? That's why you didn't do anything?

So, when e.g. you didn't do anything against even Sadr, that was also Europe's fault? Wow, we must be *really* powerful if we can restrain such a superpower as yours.

Probably not. It seems to me more likely that it's your own weakness that causes you to not act against Iran, just as you failed to take out Sadr -- not some sort of mystical power that Europe possesses over you.

Because, Aris, at this point - their bombs can only reach you and not us

Do you *really* think that Europe's concerned about Iranian missiles reaching it? We are not.
Posted by Aris Katsaris 2006-01-07 13:33||   2006-01-07 13:33|| Front Page Top

#24 I curse the SM-3 that secures the lower appendage.
Posted by Fatima Bibi 2006-01-07 13:40||   2006-01-07 13:40|| Front Page Top

#25 Say what you want, the US and Israel are probably the only ones doing the recon and intel AND planning for taking out the menace of the MM nukes and accessories. The EUniks can play dumb and be negotiators and lift the light loads because they know that the Big Bad US™ will do the heavy lifting. Nuances, my a$$.
Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul  2006-01-07 13:53||   2006-01-07 13:53|| Front Page Top

#26 tastes like ass, huh, Aris? LOL

nevermind - that thread was going nowhere. We disagree and the facts will bear out in the future
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-01-07 13:54||   2006-01-07 13:54|| Front Page Top

#27 AlaskaPaul - and it makes Aris very comfortable knowing that his government can continue to play a whining 1950's mommy while the US is left with the role of Dad.
Posted by 2b 2006-01-07 13:55||   2006-01-07 13:55|| Front Page Top

#28 2b, the issues I have with my government go much deeper than the issues I have with yours. Unlike you, I don't need to play the stupid game of "my nation's better than yours".

What does the gender stereotyping reveal about you, btw?
Posted by Aris Katsaris 2006-01-07 14:05||   2006-01-07 14:05|| Front Page Top

#29 since when have I ever made references to Greece? I was referring to YOUR comment Aris and to Europe in general. You're free to complain secure in the knowlege that the US or Israel won't allow it to move forward. You are closer and that's the technology they have right now. They might get us with a dirty bomb - but they don't need any new technology for that.

Why shouldn't they set their sights on Europe? It's a toothless tiger that doesn't even bother to roar.
Posted by 2b 2006-01-07 14:10||   2006-01-07 14:10|| Front Page Top

#30 Aris wrote, Up to now America hasn't done anything more concerning Iran's threat than Europe has.

Damn. That's twice in a week that I have to agree with Aris.

C'mon people: we have NOT done very much to this point, at least that has been publicly disclosed, to stop Iran. We've had a lot of tough-sounding press releases, we're trying to stiffen the spines of the EU-3 (like shooting pool with a rope), and we'd like to get this to the UNSC, for all the good that would do.

And maybe, maybe, we're doing a whole bunch of stuff behind the scenes to work on the problem. Maybe the CIA is pulling all sorts of hi-jinx that we'll never read about. Maybe the NSA has all the intercepts, and those are in the hands of Special Ops people who are doing nefarious things. Maybe our diplomats are quietly building support for a strike. Maybe our military people have Plans Red, Orange and Black readied, just wating for a go-code.

Maybe. I hope so. But in the light of public evidence to date, Aris isn't wrong to say what he said.
Posted by Steve White">Steve White  2006-01-07 14:11||   2006-01-07 14:11|| Front Page Top

#31 since when have I ever made references to Greece?

I thought that "your government" had meant the Greek government.

You're free to complain secure in the knowlege that the US or Israel won't allow it to move forward.

I wish I had that knowledge, 2b. I'm afraid I don't, not in the slightest. I don't know if Israel has the capacity to stop it, and I don't know if America has the will to do so, since it may mean that the Iranian Shiite stooges in Iraq (SCIRI, Sadr, etc) will also revolt, bringing to nil all supposed progress that has been made there.
Posted by Aris Katsaris 2006-01-07 14:21||   2006-01-07 14:21|| Front Page Top

#32 #4: If it weren't for the fact that these guys will eventually nuke NY or DC I'd actually be enjoying this show.

You can cross the New York Nuke off their target list, the UN building is there.

While the World Trade Center was also in New York, that was a controlled attack, a Nuke would affect the whole city, and they don't want to piss off the whole world, just the United States.
Posted by Redneck Jim 2006-01-07 14:44||   2006-01-07 14:44|| Front Page Top

#33 Aris isn't wrong to say what he said

But the way he says it does leave something to be desired. I knew it was too good to last.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-01-07 14:56||   2006-01-07 14:56|| Front Page Top

#34 But the way he says it does leave something to be desired.

Certainly, Americans have the right to mock and insult as much as they want, but Europeans must always come forth possessing stances of humble petitioning.

I'm not *anyone's* dhimmi, not the Islamofascists', not the socialfascists', and not yours either. I am already treating you with more respect than you treat me, and am definitely treating America with more respect than you treat either the EU or Europe as a whole.
Posted by Aris Katsaris">Aris Katsaris  2006-01-07 15:04||   2006-01-07 15:04|| Front Page Top

#35  "...enough to induce us to unleash hell.."

I guess He was watching his teenager's bootlegged copy of Gladiator.
Posted by Penguin 2006-01-07 15:07||   2006-01-07 15:07|| Front Page Top

#36 Aris, some bitches don't even know they are 'kept'. They are happy with the trapping and fed a continuous dose to keep their nerves from fraying. That would be you.
Posted by Brett 2006-01-07 16:12||   2006-01-07 16:12|| Front Page Top

#37 Brass balls, will the Euros grow em? Nay
Posted by Captain America 2006-01-07 16:29||   2006-01-07 16:29|| Front Page Top

#38 Brass balls, will the Euros grow em? Nay

I'm sure the EU has a heavy import duty on them as well...
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-01-07 16:31||   2006-01-07 16:31|| Front Page Top

#39 Thank you Brett, I couldn't have asked for a better exemplification of my last point, the one regarding respect given and received.
Posted by Aris Katsaris 2006-01-07 16:31||   2006-01-07 16:31|| Front Page Top

#40 Respect is earned, not derived just by continually breathing.
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-01-07 16:32||   2006-01-07 16:32|| Front Page Top

#41 you ever notice JFM, A8089, (especially) TGA have no problem with respect....? I didn't think so. They've earned it, in my book
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-01-07 16:35||   2006-01-07 16:35|| Front Page Top

#42 I have to admit, that before I posted, the point that Steve made occurred to me. However, at least in the United States, as in Israel, we have the EXPECTATION that our government will do something - though we may be, as Steve says, wrong.

I will admit I was wrong about Europe being a "toothless" tiger. It has both claws and teeth. But I'm not far from wrong when I say it doesn't bother to roar. Schroeder and Chirac are corrupt - both cooperating with Putin and Saddam and selling the George Galloway line of BS that we can just bribe and nuance our way out of it as they line their pockets in ways that would make Arafat proud.

And talk about claiming "my country is better than yours" The only thing that ever comes out of Europe is how we knuckle dragging Americans don't understand nuance. And right they are. We don't understand how Chirac, Schroeder and Galloway will ever do much of anything except in their own personal interest. You are nothing but a peasant to be taxed for their own personal gain and if they have to wear turbins to stay in power - so be it. The Iraq war and the UN scandal has already proved that.
Posted by 2b 2006-01-07 16:47||   2006-01-07 16:47|| Front Page Top

#43  Aris wrote, Up to now America hasn't done anything more concerning Iran's threat than Europe has.

Steve White: Damn. That's twice in a week that I have to agree with Aris.

Steve, the US Navy and other assets have kept the Gulf [oil supply]open for the world and provided a deterrent force to keep Iran in check for decades.

The Euros could have done alot more in the way of embargoing trade with Iran instead it has weakened pressure working around those embargos.
Posted by RD 2006-01-07 16:53||   2006-01-07 16:53|| Front Page Top

#44 Sorry Steve, I'm with RD et al on this: we have actively tried to stifle teh Iranianinfluence in shiite areas of Iraq, costing American and British lives. JacK Straw seems to be working at cross-purposes to the Brit mission in Iraq, and the rest of Europe, if not actively selling materials to Iran, has tut-tutted any measures to constrain and punish the Iranians for their adventures. Not to mention how long it took to get the EU to recognize the Iranian tool terrorists of hezbollah as anything other than a Muslim United Way
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-01-07 16:59||   2006-01-07 16:59|| Front Page Top

#45 Frank G.> Respect is earned, not derived just by continually breathing.

Well for starters, our attitudes are just slightly different. I feel that people first earn the right to respect simply by the mere fact of being fellow human beings. They can then proceed by words and actions to *lose* the respect they were first entitled to. E.g. as you long ago lost mine.

Secondly, people earn *your* respect Frank, only if they happen to agree with you.

you ever notice JFM, A8089, (especially) TGA have no problem with respect....? I didn't think so. They've earned it, in my book

Have you ever noticed how I never treat TGA, JFM, liberalhawk, Fred, and many other people, with disrespect or rudeness either?

It partly derives from the fact that these people don't tend to bash whole continents and then pretend that it's *other* people's attitudes that is the problems. The fact that their posts generally tend to contain sentient content, unlike yours, also contributes to my continuing respect for them.
Posted by Aris Katsaris">Aris Katsaris  2006-01-07 17:04||   2006-01-07 17:04|| Front Page Top

#46 2b> I also feel that Shroeder was corrupt -- I was for a long time a fence-sitter on this one, but the fact he immediately received a cozy job in Russia's state-owned corporation finally convinced me of the fact.

Not yet sure about Chirac. He's an ass in many ways, and his contributions in the last years atleast have largely been greatly negative to both European and Transatlantic unity, but I've not studied his actions enough to tell whether that's the result of corruption or mere arrogant nationalism (taking care of France's interests in all the worse ways).
Posted by Aris Katsaris">Aris Katsaris  2006-01-07 17:11||   2006-01-07 17:11|| Front Page Top

#47 LOL - sentient's a big word for you....good syllabus work - my respect for you notches up a tick :-)
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-01-07 17:12||   2006-01-07 17:12|| Front Page Top

#48 BTW Chirac's avoided prosecution for corruption as mayor only so long as he remains in public office - that's 2 for 2
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-01-07 17:15||   2006-01-07 17:15|| Front Page Top

#49 Have you ever noticed how I never treat TGA, JFM, liberalhawk, Fred, and many other people, with disrespect or rudeness either?

No, I've noticed that you are more than willing to get into the gutter at the slightest provocation, even when it was clear to others one wasn't intended. If you could go to Vegas and cash in the chip on your shoulder, you'd be rich for life.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-01-07 17:26||   2006-01-07 17:26|| Front Page Top

#50 Frank, "Sentient" is a very useful word, which is why you see me use it all the time. Certainly many of the comments in any given thread could have been written by a computer. Just have a program sprinkle "Dhimmi-donks", "EUnics" and "traitors" through randomly constructed sentences, and few people would be able to tell the difference between it and many Rantburgers' typical commentary.

You can also have a male-chauvinism variable that indicates the likelihood of any given person using "pussies" as a reference to cowardice and "balls" as a reference to bravery. Extra points go to those who don't hesitate to award honorary balls to brave women.
Posted by Aris Katsaris">Aris Katsaris  2006-01-07 17:29||   2006-01-07 17:29|| Front Page Top

#51 Keep watching the Iran futures on intrade.
Posted by doc 2006-01-07 17:46||   2006-01-07 17:46|| Front Page Top

#52 Nimble> "The great virtue IS the tragic flaw." to quote from a friend's commentary on some book or other. See my attitude flaws as a result of my overeagerness to confront both stupidity and fascism.

I wish I could find a corresponding virtue to fit the sins of Frank. A person that e.g. uses "greek boy" as an attempted insult, how can I restore my respect for him? I'd appreciate some help here, Nimble.
Posted by Aris Katsaris">Aris Katsaris  2006-01-07 18:06||   2006-01-07 18:06|| Front Page Top

#53 As an aside, I'd be reassured if you, personally, didn't respect me, thanks
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-01-07 18:10||   2006-01-07 18:10|| Front Page Top

#54 I had no doubt about that, Frank.
Posted by Aris Katsaris">Aris Katsaris  2006-01-07 18:14||   2006-01-07 18:14|| Front Page Top

#55 back on topic, somehow. You (and I don't doubrt the rest of Europe) aren't really askeered of an enhanced range Iranian missile actually putting a Nuke in Rome or Paris or Berlin or Athens. I have no doubt you're probably correct. The Iranians will use the existence and POSSIBLE use as leverage in all future talks/power discussions. They will actually send it to Israel, and sneak one against a US base, if possible, but they know Europe will roll over and play dead if threatened only...

Good news, you'll be a dhimmi bitch for Shias instead of wahhabis...
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-01-07 18:17||   2006-01-07 18:17|| Front Page Top

#56 a result of my overeagerness to confront both stupidity and fascism.

Translation. I will always live in my mother's cellar.
Posted by Glemp Flineper4549 2006-01-07 18:20||   2006-01-07 18:20|| Front Page Top

#57 Glemp, I was the only one in my highschool class to confront antisemetic statements made by others in class. More than once.

I was the only one (possibly in the whole highschool, judged from the signature-gatherers' surprise) who around the same time refused to sign a protest petition demanding the withdrawal of American troops from Bosnia.

I was the only one in my university who in debate opposed the students joining in protests against Clinton when he came to visit, knowing that the supposed "anti-imperialists" we'd be marching alongside with would be merely anti-American fascists instead.

I am proud of all of the above, even as I'm proud of e.g. my current opposition of the usage of torture against innocents. Your mockery about my willingness to confront fascism, just like Frank's mockery of the same, is a stain on the mockers, not on me.

Now, I have to sleep soon, so this was my last post in this thread. Nimble, my petition in #52 for aid in restoring my respect for Frank is sincere. If you have any ideas let me know.

Cheers.
Posted by Aris Katsaris">Aris Katsaris  2006-01-07 18:32||   2006-01-07 18:32|| Front Page Top

#58 Thread with 57 post, whatta... oh! Aris's here! ;-)
Posted by Sobiesky 2006-01-07 18:34||   2006-01-07 18:34|| Front Page Top

#59 I didn't realize that Mister K. I stand corrected and in awe.
Posted by Glemp Flineper4549 2006-01-07 18:45||   2006-01-07 18:45|| Front Page Top

#60 I've no great love (or respect) for the Euros (excepting TGA, JFM, and other R'burgers), but to paraphrase Churchill, if Iran attacked Hell, I'd at least write My Congressman to make a speech in favor of the Devil.
Posted by Jackal">Jackal  2006-01-07 18:52|| home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html]">[home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html]  2006-01-07 18:52|| Front Page Top

#61 While the specifics of diplomacy usually elude me (I am, by nature, a confrontational creature), it would seem that the Euro's are employing/carrying "a lazy man's load," one that is purposefully too big to actually be carried-- thus, he hopes someone else will bear the burden: and the new contract goes to...The Evil Zionist Moooooving Company!!! Congratulations, Guys (don't scratch the furniture).
Posted by Ulinesing Unolurong8592 2006-01-07 19:06||   2006-01-07 19:06|| Front Page Top

#62 The Oracle says:


Glemp, I was the only one in my highschool class to confront antisemetic statements made by others in class. More than once.

I was the only one (possibly in the whole highschool, judged from the signature-gatherers' surprise) who around the same time refused to sign a protest petition demanding the withdrawal of American troops from Bosnia.

I was the only one in my university who in debate opposed the students joining in protests against Clinton when he came to visit, knowing that the supposed "anti-imperialists" we'd be marching alongside with would be merely anti-American fascists instead.

I am proud of all of the above, even as I'm proud of e.g. my current opposition of the usage of torture against innocents. Your mockery about my willingness to confront fascism, just like Frank's mockery of the same, is a stain on the mockers, not on me.

Now, I have to sleep soon, so this was my last post in this thread. Nimble, my petition in #52 for aid in restoring my respect for Frank is sincere. If you have any ideas let me know.

Cheers.
Posted by RD 2006-01-07 19:52||   2006-01-07 19:52|| Front Page Top

#63 Another Iranian provocation. Another Arisified thread. Let's just face it...

Iran will, at the very least, have to be decapitated.

The U.S. and/or Israel will have to do it. I expect that it will occur before spring so as to minimize winter oil supply problems this year and next.

The European contribution, to save face in light of their total impotence, will be condemnation of Bush and Israel.

The economy will be messed up, but trivially compared to an Iranian nuclear attack on the U.S.

Europe and China will throw hissy fits over oil interruptions.

Ali Larijani's future will be, at best, the same as Baghdad Bob's.

In a kneejerk reaction, the WOT-ignorant in the U.S. will elect a Democrat to the presidency in 2008, but not one of the jerks that's already running.

That's it -- I'm depressed. Thanks for nothing, Jimmy Carter. I sure hope the next Democratic president does a helluva better job than you did.
Posted by Darrell 2006-01-07 20:44||   2006-01-07 20:44|| Front Page Top

#64 well, well! I'm actually going to defend Aris on this one. What is the world coming to?

Aris: while I will admire your willingness to break from the herd - the fact that YOU were THE ONLY ONE who did those things says volumes about the reasons Americans lack respect for, dare I say it, "European values" - a loose term which beg you, in the spirit of the fact that I am agreeing with you - to use your intelligence to understand what I mean by that term, so that I can spare Fred's bandwidth of 5,000,000 words explaining exactly what I mean by "European values" - solely for the purpose that you don't come back arguing semantics over the term.
Posted by 2b 2006-01-07 20:45||   2006-01-07 20:45|| Front Page Top

#65 wow RD! I thought it was 'bout me....LOL


I stand by prediction (similar to others) that the US and Israel will do th enasty work suffer biching and sniping from Euro-pussies, and ultimately endure. I hope the majority population of Iran is able to pick up the pieces, hang the turbans, and make a prosperous nation. Iran has the assets, opportunity and educated populace to make the first world....
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-01-07 20:54||   2006-01-07 20:54|| Front Page Top

#66 What Darrell said, that's the way I see it, too. Pretty depressing.
Posted by Dave D.">Dave D.  2006-01-07 20:55||   2006-01-07 20:55|| Front Page Top

#67 Yeah right. Go to bed Vince Watkins
Aris.
Posted by 2b 2006-01-07 21:28||   2006-01-07 21:28|| Front Page Top

#68 San Diego CA, Vince

let me know when you leave hiding under your mutha's bed get closer :-)
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-01-07 21:35||   2006-01-07 21:35|| Front Page Top

#69 I'd be happy to allow you the chance, punk.
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-01-07 21:38||   2006-01-07 21:38|| Front Page Top

#70 Vince, dear, Frank G. is going on 2 meters tall, with body mass to match, and a countryboy engineer to boot. I don't know if you've run across many engineers in your life, but they tend to be blunt-spoken, simple souls. All they really require from those around them is the same competence they demand from themselves, and are therefore often disappointed. I honestly don't think you would enjoy your encounter, no matter how much you've grown to dislike him. Such men tend to have acquired competency in the kind of male-male interaction you desire, and like a bigger hammer, do not hesitate to apply as they perceive to be the appropriate tool for the situation.

Not to warn you off, or to protect Mr. G, but to give you the information you need to properly assess the most appropriate course.

Oh, and next time, could you post such comments to Frank G's email? I find physical threats to be singularly uniformative and uninteresting. Of course, I'm not male, which may have something to do with it. Thanks ever so.
Posted by trailing wife 2006-01-07 21:42||   2006-01-07 21:42|| Front Page Top

#71 so it wasn't Aris? My bad.
Posted by 2b 2006-01-07 21:44||   2006-01-07 21:44|| Front Page Top

#72 Make it an even 70 comments.
I didn't respond earlier as it is too predictable.

Look the Mad Mullah's have at least 3 tactical nukes they bought from the ex-soviet republic's criminals in the 90s. They likely don't work anymore but they can sure model new ones after them.

Only thing is you would want to test before using and if you test you want a lot on missiles ready to fire - so they need to have a full wave ready before they test. Also, no reason to test until they are ready to use. That means ready to do major damage.

So they buy time futzing with the Eu-Niks until they first all out attack wave is completed.
Then a quick test followed by Allah's mandated launch against Jews, Christians, Pagans and all ...
It will be a impressive first wave for a 2-bit shithole followed by H-Bombs turning Iran into Glass. Hopefully the H-Bombs will be followed by planes with hydrofluoric acid to dope the amorphous glass that was Iran and make it a giant solar cell.
Posted by 3dc 2006-01-07 21:46||   2006-01-07 21:46|| Front Page Top

#73 heh heh my email is available if you have a brain, VW. Nobody in Texas uses "Git" nor do they use such poor english as :

Look me up, I'll beat you like you cheap whore.
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-01-07 21:50||   2006-01-07 21:50|| Front Page Top

#74 Hmmm, I don't recall ever getting into discussions with someone as deranged as you before. Could you refresh my memory with examples?
Posted by 2b 2006-01-07 21:51||   2006-01-07 21:51|| Front Page Top

#75 Git = English
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-01-07 21:59||   2006-01-07 21:59|| Front Page Top

#76 Hey, VW. You need to get a brain to do politics. Otherwise you're the "keyboard commando". And you probably read "soldier of fortune".
Posted by OnlySaneAnonymouseLeft 2006-01-07 21:59||   2006-01-07 21:59|| Front Page Top

#77 as does Wank....
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-01-07 22:00||   2006-01-07 22:00|| Front Page Top

#78 nite VW
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-01-07 22:00||   2006-01-07 22:00|| Front Page Top

#79 VW--
You know. Steroids aren't good for you. Or are you compensating for something?
Posted by OnlySaneAnonymouseLeft 2006-01-07 22:01||   2006-01-07 22:01|| Front Page Top

#80 pssst....hey Frank... do you think we might have made him mad by giving him a low rating on some of Kimmy's stuff?
Posted by 2b 2006-01-07 22:04||   2006-01-07 22:04|| Front Page Top

#81 :-)
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-01-07 22:06||   2006-01-07 22:06|| Front Page Top

#82 You can put your boots in the oven, but that don't make em biscuits :-)
Posted by Rafael 2006-01-07 22:09||   2006-01-07 22:09|| Front Page Top

#83 Never kick a cow chip on a hot day.
Posted by Rafael 2006-01-07 22:19||   2006-01-07 22:19|| Front Page Top

#84 3dc hit on something I have been pondering as well. The Mad Mullahs need a test. Once they test they know a count down clock to their anhillation will start.

Will there be enough time for Ahmadinejad to claim that he is the Mahdi?
Posted by TomAnon 2006-01-07 22:21||   2006-01-07 22:21|| Front Page Top

#85 For Vince...
and it's free!
Posted by 2b 2006-01-07 22:24||   2006-01-07 22:24|| Front Page Top

#86 tw, my apologies.

Vince has been dumped. I strongly suggest the rest of you calm down. Now.
Posted by Pappy 2006-01-07 22:34||   2006-01-07 22:34|| Front Page Top

#87 ok...right after this I'm going to hit the tip jar - just as soon as I find my cc - for wasting so much bandwidth. If not tonight - tomorrow I promise! But I have to say it...I just can't help myself.

Isn't it strange - how Frank and I tick off Aris and then as soon as he goes to bed, this new poster Vince, suddenly comes to town, guns blazing, with all the arrogance of Aris to talk about how we are not worthy to be on rantburg?

It's like a wierd parallel universe of Aris. neeneeneenee - neeneeneenee
Posted by 2b 2006-01-07 22:55||   2006-01-07 22:55|| Front Page Top

#88 I'm done - I promise! I'm sorry Fred. It's true, I am unworthy. I will pay.
Posted by 2b 2006-01-07 22:56||   2006-01-07 22:56|| Front Page Top

#89 What's weird, from what I can tell - this is one massive pile of, uh, um, thread - is Vince got a burr under his saddle and I don't really see why. If he's lurked and such as claimed, then he'd know this is a normal Arisified thread, which is why I left RB, today.

As for his locale, I used to live in Euless Useless. H-E-B, the mid-cities betwixt Dallas and Foat Wurth. Hell, to establish my bona-fides, I held the record for the number of licks (that's whacks on the ass with a paddle - invariably named the Board of Education - for you New Age lillies) in a year at South Euless Elementary - I broke 100 in the 3rd grade. I was the regional Spelling Bee champ in the 4th, though you wouldn't know it from my RB posts. And Vince, I lived just off Pipeline Rd when it was in the stix and found a silver fox pup, which I turned over to the Forrest Part Zoo in Ft Wurth, lol. Good enough for ya? Last time I was there was about 25 yrs ago.

But we said "git" all the time. And ponds were called tanks. And sheee-it was our favorite word - before we learned some of that truly nuclear stuff.

What got you so bent out of shape? I can't see it.

Frank loves Aris and Aris loves Frank - in that bloggy adversarial in-your-face sorta way. They are therapeutic for each other, lol.

I've retired, more or less. Aris can come back and make the usual hash of threads if he wants to. Obviously The Mods have forgotten why they banned his ass once upon a time.

I haven't. I don't much care to waste my time with him, anymore.

You need a longneck Shiner, Jax or a Pearl or something. Chill, dude.
Posted by .com 2006-01-07 23:23||   2006-01-07 23:23|| Front Page Top

#90 Just remembered something else - the Principal at SE Elem was AJ Sales. Soupy, to us, of course. And he had this huge college ring he used to nervously twist all the time. We figured it was because he couldn't wait to git to work whacking us.

We were right.
Posted by .com 2006-01-07 23:28||   2006-01-07 23:28|| Front Page Top

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Posted by Vince Watkins 2006-01-07 22:13||   2006-01-07 22:13|| Front Page Top

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