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2005-10-18 Home Front: Politix
How Democrats Could Win Elections (if they'd listen)
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Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2005-10-18 12:06|| || Front Page|| [6 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 
Hmm, no class envy, no race baiting, be polite? WTF? What really do the have to offer then??

What would Marx do in a situation like this?
Posted by macofromoc 2005-10-18 12:46||   2005-10-18 12:46|| Front Page Top

#2 They could oppose court-imposed gay marriage while favoring decent legal treatment for gay couples and insisting that this is a matter for the people of the several states -- not the U.S. Constitution or the judiciary -- to resolve.

As this is the conservative position, this will never happen.
Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford  2005-10-18 12:56|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2005-10-18 12:56|| Front Page Top

#3 Okay, here's a test...name ONE Democratic candidate that even comes close to these points?

Lieberman? Saw how well he did in the primaries.

McCain might fit.............oh, wait a minute.
Posted by AlanC">AlanC  2005-10-18 13:14||   2005-10-18 13:14|| Front Page Top

#4 Dick Morris said much the same thing as these authors on Howie Carr's radio show yesterday.
Posted by Raj 2005-10-18 13:24||   2005-10-18 13:24|| Front Page Top

#5 From what I just read, I think they are F*CKED!


He, He, He.
Posted by bigjim-ky 2005-10-18 13:29||   2005-10-18 13:29|| Front Page Top

#6 AlanC,

.....maybe Gov. Richardson, NM. He carried the same state that went to George this past election and unlikely to face any real challenge at home.
Posted by Slolutch Glith4065 2005-10-18 16:12||   2005-10-18 16:12|| Front Page Top

#7 SG, wasn't Bill Richardson involved in Clinton's China financial transactions?

Does he have a credible America first foreign policy?

The name that I've heard as a decent Demonrat is Phil Bredesen from Tenn. but I don't know anything about his party standing or foreign affairs proclivities.
Posted by AlanC">AlanC  2005-10-18 17:26||   2005-10-18 17:26|| Front Page Top

#8 Hold the first Democratic primary in Tennesse, Kentucky or North Carolina.
Posted by Shipman 2005-10-18 18:53||   2005-10-18 18:53|| Front Page Top

#9 Richardson hired Lewinsky, resume unseen, (nor oral skills) when they wanted her out of the WH....nuff said
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2005-10-18 19:12||   2005-10-18 19:12|| Front Page Top

#10 The democrats will re-write themselves much like the republicans did, and follow much the same course, perhaps taking as long to recover.

After the crushing defeat by Frank Roosevelt, the republicans were devastated for many years. They didn't have an effective political party until Eisenhower, and their rise was proportional to the decay of the democrats. The last gasp of the radical right, before the moderate right, what are now called "conservatives", took over, was in 1964.

By 1968, the conservatives utterly dominated the republicans, and the radicals seized the democrats. With the set back of the fall of Nixon, otherwise it was all uphill for republicans and downhill for democrats since.

Electorally, the democrats may be near rock bottom, nationally. They will stay there, making only marginal gains, until more moderate democrats, willing to work with the republicans, ascend to leadership roles in their party.

By cooperating with the republicans, they will not only marginalize the radical left, but the radical right as well, and the country will have conservative-moderate government for many years.

Only during this time period will the democrats have the time and inclination to create a "learned philosophy". Not just knee-jerk nonsense, but something they can sell to the public, that the public wants to buy. They will have found the chinks in the republican armor, national problems that the republicans refuse to fix, and they will capitalize on them.

Finally, the radical leftists will have one last gasp, one last great failure, before they democrat moderates sweep them from power.
Posted by Anonymoose 2005-10-18 19:34||   2005-10-18 19:34|| Front Page Top

#11 AlanC - you are spot-on. Any electable Democrat would so alienate the loony left base that they'd never get the nomination. It'll be interesting to see how Hillary's fake "move to the middle" strategy works. It's already angering the Kos / DU / Move-on crowd that represents the mainstream of today's Dems. The conservatives can see right through it. It'll be interesting to see how it plays with the moderates. But it won't matter if the left torpedos her nomination.
Posted by DMFD 2005-10-18 22:17||   2005-10-18 22:17|| Front Page Top

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