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2005-01-09 Iraq-Jordan

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Posted by tipper 2005-01-09 8:56:00 AM|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Where do we send donations?

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-01-09 9:05:58 AM|| 2005-01-09 9:05:58 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 could even operate in Syria? I say start there

Posted by Frank G 2005-01-09 9:27:01 AM|| 2005-01-09 9:27:01 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 I'm in, Mrs. Davis. I wonder if the Pentagon takes PayPal? :-D

If the choices are assassinate or snatch, I know which one I'd vote for.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2005-01-09 9:27:41 AM|| 2005-01-09 9:27:41 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 heh heh - I vote for snatch

Posted by Beavis 2005-01-09 9:41:11 AM|| 2005-01-09 9:41:11 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 I thought we'd abandoned taking prisoners over there.

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-01-09 9:45:30 AM|| 2005-01-09 9:45:30 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Newsweek carries the story with a suggestive photo accompanying the article. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6802629/site/newsweek/

The average reader will assume once the US puts this practice into place innocent American nuns will be slaughtered.

The MSM continues to employ what they view as, at worst, subtle bias against US policy during war time and what the informed reader (re: Rantburgians) sees, at face value, as anti-American propaganda.

Seeing the Newsweek article and the connection to killing innocent nuns in Central America makes me want to vomit.

Posted by Curious1 2005-01-09 9:46:30 AM|| 2005-01-09 9:46:30 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 If Hersch and Newsweak are just writing about it, then it is already happening. SF have probably been planning for such activities for months, if not years. Operations are currently underway, but you won't hear about them first from the slimey Hersch or Newsweak.

Posted by Captain America 2005-01-09 10:06:05 AM|| 2005-01-09 10:06:05 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Targeted assasination can be your friend. Should've been in use since 9-11 (indeed, even before then). I'd suggest parameters that include those who preach and incite jihad.

Posted by Mark Z. 2005-01-09 10:36:11 AM|| 2005-01-09 10:36:11 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Lets add Iran to those parameters

Posted by tex 2005-01-09 10:42:09 AM|| 2005-01-09 10:42:09 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 I'm just disappointed they are "debating" it. I would have assumed (and hoped) it had started some time ago.

and Curious1, these days the MSM will tell us that the Nuns being "targeted" are those who have devoted their lives to saving the puppies left homeless AFTER we slaughtered their innocent owners. Geez.

Posted by Justrand 2005-01-09 11:38:57 AM|| 2005-01-09 11:38:57 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 March 28, 2003, 11:06PM

U.S. hit squads hunt Iraqi brass
By DANA PRIEST
Washington Post

"WASHINGTON -- U.S. covert teams have been operating in urban areas in Iraq trying to kill members of President Saddam Hussein's inner circle, including Baath Party officials and Special Republican Guard commanders, according to U.S. and other knowledgeable officials.

The covert teams, from the CIA's paramilitary division and the military's special operations group, include snipers and demolition experts schooled in setting house and car bombs. They have reportedly killed more than a handful of individuals, according to one source. They have been in operation for at least one week."

Seems the only thing being considered is training Iraqis.

Posted by crazyhorse 2005-01-09 11:50:21 AM|| 2005-01-09 11:50:21 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 Before someone whose name should not be mentioned shows up, I actually do have reservations about the assasination business. This is serious business and should be subject to some controls. I suggest we publish in newspapers a list of Names of Interest. If they turn themselves within some time period in, they get dealt with by the legal system. If not, they go on a target list. It's not like this type of target will change its behavior or improve its security because it has been in the newspaper. And it will let everybody involved know what is happening and the shooter know they are not on a rogue mission.

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-01-09 11:52:09 AM|| 2005-01-09 11:52:09 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 I suggest we publish in newspapers a list of Names of Interest. If they turn themselves within some time period in, they get dealt with by the legal system. If not, they go on a target list.

Or we could just kill them.

Posted by Parabellum 2005-01-09 11:58:09 AM|| 2005-01-09 11:58:09 AM|| Front Page Top

#14 Mrs. D --

Surely you jest! The names of "people of interest" were initially published with the deck of cards two years ago.

Folks, I am telling you, WaPo, Hersch, and Newsweak are telling a story that has been underway since before the invasion.

The extension into Syria has been more recent by virtue of Syria not meeting US requirements. But plans for covert action in Syria (or Iran) are well developed and underway. Don't expect to learn about them through Hersch, Newsweak, or WaPo until several weeks post intervention.

As for Iran, plans are well developed but require a much different operation. The EU-3 and UN/IAEA are more a hinderance than a help here.

As for training Iraqis for covert action, building an indigenous SF team requires a much longer learning curve than simply standing up a National Guard and police force. There are short cuts in place, along the lines of US embeds. SF is the training arm, so, here again, don't expect to get fresh updates from your friendly Hersch, Newsweak or WaPo.

Does anyone remember Hersch's commentary during our Afganistan intervention? The day before Afgan fell, Hersch filed a report stating that the US forces were in serious trouble and were likely to fail. So much for credibility.

Posted by Captain America 2005-01-09 12:26:43 PM|| 2005-01-09 12:26:43 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Yeah, Sy Hersh hasn't filed an accurate story since 1972.

Unless the facts were intentionally leaked to him, that is.

Heh heh heh...

Posted by Parabellum 2005-01-09 1:11:27 PM|| 2005-01-09 1:11:27 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 OK I've mulled it over. Let's roll.

Posted by Seafarious 2005-01-09 1:13:10 PM|| 2005-01-09 1:13:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 The logic of this is inescapable. Ultimately Iraqis have to fight the counter-insurgency war, and only the Kurds and Shias are motivated to do it against the Sunni Arabs. Ethnically or tribally pure militias are also much better able to keep out infiltrators.

Some large scale covert action by Kurds in Syria and Iran would divert their attention away from meddling in Iraq.

Posted by HV 2005-01-09 1:50:26 PM|| 2005-01-09 1:50:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 What we need in Iran is an insurgancy. I figure since they are behind the one in Iraq (via Syria) we should at least return the favor. But only against the Mullah's and not the people of Iran.

Plus we still owe them for the hostages. Time for payback.

Posted by CrazyFool 2005-01-09 1:54:50 PM|| 2005-01-09 1:54:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 I believe this program should be extended to the entire world, with the crucial element, terror-inciting propagandists, as the primary target.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2005-01-09 3:34:53 PM|| 2005-01-09 3:34:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 Iraq, Syria, Iran? Why limit yourselves?

The time is now to begin snuffing ALL violent jihadist imams worldwide. The only way to eliminate Islamist terrorism is by eliminating those who preach it. Until advocating terrorism is accompanied by immediate and unavoidable death, nothing will change.

The mindset that can countenance civilian atrocities needs to be eradicated from our entire world. It serves no useful purpose and will continue to infect gullible minds until it has been exterminated. The minor loss of human life involved with executing these psychotics pales in comparison to the mass murder they cheerfully envision.

Bashir, Hamza, Qawadari and all their ilk need to be wiped from the face of this earth. By encouraging terrorism, they have forfeited any right to waste our precious oxygen reserves. Wherever terrorism is preached it must be greeted with a final and lethal response. Anything less is merely prolonging our world's agony.

Posted by Zenster 2005-01-09 3:43:06 PM|| 2005-01-09 3:43:06 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 Get a load of the caption on the pic of the dead nuns:

Nuns pray over the bodies of four American sisters killed by the military in El Salvador in 1980

Since the line immediately above the pic mentions the Pentagon, and there is no reference to the Salvadoran military carrying out the killings, the more credulous media-slaves are invited to infer that the US military killed the nuns.

Crap like this directly and provably incites terrorism and it is part of the reason I think MSM goebbelists should be first on the target list.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2005-01-09 3:43:51 PM|| 2005-01-09 3:43:51 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 Given the seeming Arab predisposition towards clannishness and thuggery, I'm not certain that training hit squads of Iraqis is a good thing, unless the teams are entirely made up of Kurds.... :)

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-01-09 6:42:26 PM|| 2005-01-09 6:42:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#23 The photograph and caption in the article will lead almost all left thinking assclowns to believe that the US was directly responsible for it.

Hersch is an islamo-fascist tool, borderline trator and outright un truthful. Any content produced with his name on it is not useful.

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2005-01-09 7:06:43 PM|| [http://www.slhess.com] 2005-01-09 7:06:43 PM|| Front Page Top

#24 Hersch lost sight of the border long ago. He's not just anti-__, he's on the other side.

Posted by .com 2005-01-09 7:09:04 PM|| 2005-01-09 7:09:04 PM|| Front Page Top

#25 I'm agin' it unless we do it right. That means adding a few *spit*French*spit* presidents to the list, one or two former US presidents to the list, a handful of the worst offending anti-American dummycritters, (Sen. Babs boxers, Mickey moron, Harold icky, Hitlery Rob'em, etc.) and the majority of the MSM talking heads. If we're gonna clean house,let's clean OUR house at the same time. Traitors, haters, and thugs all need to go.

Posted by Old Patriot 2005-01-09 11:26:09 PM|| [http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2005-01-09 11:26:09 PM|| Front Page Top

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