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2004-08-21 Iraq-Jordan

Militia Offers to Cede Control of Shrine

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Posted by Fred 2004-08-21 12:12:21 AM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Lol! Arabs. Sigh.

I saw this title over at BBC:
"Tension reigns in Iraqi holy city"

My first thought was cue the skeery music... lol!

Fred - could you do a big favor? In the comments.asp script, could you make the title still hot to the story and display the poster's name? So many stories, so little time.

Posted by .com 2004-08-21 12:28:12 AM|| 2004-08-21 12:28:12 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Are AC-130 flights continuing during negotiation?

Posted by Super Hose 2004-08-21 12:53:07 AM|| 2004-08-21 12:53:07 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 SH - I'm getting the All Quiet on the Najaf Front from most storylines (via google news / world). I guess they're all at the O-Club in the Green Zone - sneering at the dry-throated reporters, heh.

Posted by .com 2004-08-21 1:00:14 AM|| 2004-08-21 1:00:14 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Comments page has been modified.

Posted by Fred 2004-08-21 11:07:08 PM|| 2004-08-21 11:07:08 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Cool - and Thanx!!! This will save having to copy what I've written, pop back out, and re-click the story link when I realize I should've grabbed a quote from the story. Too quick to close the windows, heh. It's save beaucoup trips to the RB server!

Thx, again!

Posted by .com 2004-08-21 11:11:22 PM|| 2004-08-21 11:11:22 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 .com, I imagine that we could move again at a time of our choosing. It would be interesting to see what kind of enviroment we have given them: whether they are ringed by tanks, left in the dark or lit by spotlights, probed periodically or left in silence.

Posted by Super Hose 2004-08-21 11:59:09 PM|| 2004-08-21 11:59:09 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 SH - Well, I have to say that this operation in Najaf is the most muddled thing I've seen in some time. Apparently there never was any double cordon, that they boogied on back to their base every night, and that Tater and The Tots were free to come & go as they pleased except for the few hours each day when the Jarines & Cav decided to sweep out of the barracks and advance. The place never was sealed up and Tater is free to fuck Allawi again if he get the funding to pay his "loyalists" as the press morons call them.

Almost everything I saw in my mental picture - which was shared by most here based upon their comments - was completely irrelevant.

Y'know, I thought we had gotten away from that idiotic Vietnam Era idea of paying for the same real estate multiple times, but I guess not. In this case, it seems our dependence upon Allawi for a go-ahead at each phase made this op not much different than the old Johnson-McNamara crap... you can bomb these trees (suspected truck park - right) over here and take that hill (suspected tunnel entrances) over there, but don't go thru this area - those rubber plants cost the US Govt $90 a pop. And at night - the no-fire zone has a hundred campfires. Fuckin lunacy - and it seems we're doing it again.

Posted by .com 2004-08-22 12:09:32 AM|| 2004-08-22 12:09:32 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 in world war one it was common to fight over the same terrain multiple times, and ditto in the American Revolution. Sometimes its not politics that causes that, but the tactical situation on the ground. Theres still too much fog of war to judge the military tactics. Again I think we underestimate the difficulty of establishing a cordon in a dense urban area, and I think it turns out that siege in the sense of cutting off food and water was never the military strat anyway. So far the JArs and cav in the old city have been attriting the thugs away, while the politics marches on. And i read somewhere that the thugs are getting lower on ammo.

Posted by liberalhawk 2004-08-22 12:35:00 AM|| 2004-08-22 12:35:00 AM|| Front Page Top

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