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2013-12-07 Science & Technology
Global-warming 'proof' is evaporating
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Posted by Fred 2013-12-07 00:00|| || Front Page|| [5 views ]  Top

#1 Yes, it is .... when I was in school it was called --- one thing --- today another... same thing /diffent day .... Global Warming = Anyone can talk about the weather, but no one can change it.

Posted by Au Auric 2013-12-07 00:54||   2013-12-07 00:54|| Front Page Top

#2 Reports yesterday from fly-over near New Harmony indicate nearly of foot of global-warming just before dinner.
Posted by Besoeker 2013-12-07 02:45||   2013-12-07 02:45|| Front Page Top

#3 You guys just don't understand: extra snow is just weather. Summer heat, hurricanes, earthquakes, volcanoes - those are climate.
Posted by Rambler in Virginia 2013-12-07 07:40||   2013-12-07 07:40|| Front Page Top

#4 We've had between 1 and 3 inches of frozen solid Global Warming here in Fort Worth. It's 19F outside, no sign of a thaw today.
Posted by Secret Asian Man 2013-12-07 10:46||   2013-12-07 10:46|| Front Page Top

#5 There never was any proof, just some highly shonky theories.
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2013-12-07 10:55||   2013-12-07 10:55|| Front Page Top

#6 BP, don't forget the highly shonky computer models, highly shonky data collections and very highly shonky subsidies.
Posted by AlanC 2013-12-07 12:52||   2013-12-07 12:52|| Front Page Top

#7 GIGO, man, all GIGO.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2013-12-07 13:36||   2013-12-07 13:36|| Front Page Top

#8 Don't forget the highly shonky data correction and tweaking, so that things come out the way you expect them to.
Posted by KBK 2013-12-07 15:27||   2013-12-07 15:27|| Front Page Top

#9 GIGO is a best case.

Future prediction relies on Data.

Future-Future prediction relies on Predicted Data (with increased errors over just those in the data).

So say the model and data are a laughably high 95% right.

After 14 "loops" the data content is 48% and error has grown 47%!

Basically because of this unavoidable "complex climate modelling" on a computer is basically an expensive form of dice.
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2013-12-07 15:50||   2013-12-07 15:50|| Front Page Top

#10 That's true, but we must always error on the side of stone-cold-crazy. It's some sort of damn rule.
Posted by Shipman 2013-12-07 15:55||   2013-12-07 15:55|| Front Page Top

#11 Imamean "ACt" but yawls knew that (I hope).
Posted by Shipman 2013-12-07 15:56||   2013-12-07 15:56|| Front Page Top

#12 You guys just don't understand: extra snow is just weather. Summer heat, hurricanes, earthquakes, volcanoes - those are climate.
Posted by Rambler in Virginia 2013-12-07 16:37||   2013-12-07 16:37|| Front Page Top

#13 Oh, some understand, Rambler. My civil engineering newsletters are full of cities, towns, and states setting up (costly) programs to help deal with 'climate change'-'especially after "Superstorm Sandy. I'm sure they are all funded by the Feds.
Posted by Bobby 2013-12-07 17:20||   2013-12-07 17:20|| Front Page Top

#14 Bobby, I'll get worried when Denver and Albuquerque set up a program to deal with rising sea levels.

As Glenn Reynolds says, I'll start believing it's a crisis when the people who tell me it's a crisis start acting like it's a crisis.
Posted by Rambler in Virginia 2013-12-07 17:55||   2013-12-07 17:55|| Front Page Top

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