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2007-11-25 Israel-Palestine-Jordan

Israel to reduce power to Gaza Strip from December 2

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Posted by Fred 2007-11-25 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top
File under: Hamas

#1 The world, and quite a few in Israel, have gone stark raving mad. The Israeli govt is committing suicide on the installment plan by letting Olmert stay in power.

You want to know what the consequences of the halfway followed through action in Lebanon are? Hizb'Allah, with money from Iran, is doing massive reconstruction of bombed out places in Lebanon. Just like Al Capone's soup kitchens in Chicago. Hizb'Allah and Hamas are like a metastasizing cancer, going through Lebanon, Gaza, and even the west bank, surrounding Israel.

Israel is in big big trouble, and so are we in the US. Every goodwill gesture by Israel will just be followed by more demands. Release of prisoners is seen as a victory for the Paleos, and an action of weakness by Israel.

God help us all and that includes the mindless Paleos. The Paleos, Syria, and Iran will push and this whole thing will become a Roentgen Soupbowl, when Israel has to retaliate with Nukes or be overrun.

Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul 2007-11-25 03:29|| 2007-11-25 03:29|| Front Page Top

#2 The Israeli govt is committing suicide on the installment plan by letting Olmert stay in power.

AP I couldn't agree with you more. "committing suicide on the installment plan"

Unfortunately too many Israelis blame every one & everything else but their OWN.
[example: g(paleo)omgoru], pointing his fingers at everyone else.. the USA, Condie, the Y'urp-peons, the Catholics, "World" etc.

Instead of KISS & Bearing down.. That means individuals investing $$$, Backing [shoe leather, time] & voting *Rightist* and voting for *Conservatives*, in the smaller rightist parties, & the Conservatives in the Likud Party [Netanyahu + cronies] and the Kadima Party.

Enough Conservatives & Righties at least to CHANGE the coalition so Olmert can finally get the God Damn BOOT and forcing him to get a real job, Vote him out of the coalition,

IMHO

Posted by Red Dawg">Red Dawg 2007-11-25 06:31|| 2007-11-25 06:31|| Front Page Top

#3 Poor Red Doggy---big nasty Gromgoru have hurt his by pointing out some inconvinient facts about Afghanistan, Iraq, and Lebanon.
Don't worry Doggy---once Mama Hillary is President, she'll fix everything.

p.s. Have you started learning Spanish yet? You really should.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2007-11-25 07:29|| 2007-11-25 07:29|| Front Page Top

#4 how are those palestinien personality lessons coming along g(paleo)omgoru]?

once Abbas is President of your back yard, he'll fix everything.

p.s. Have you started learning Arabic yet? You really should...

:)

Posted by Red Dawg">Red Dawg 2007-11-25 07:35|| 2007-11-25 07:35|| Front Page Top

#5 Cool! I'd say reduce power to zero for four hours for every Kassam that lands in Israel.

Better yet: One Big-A$$ voltage spike to hit within a week at a time of Israel's choosing for every Kassam that lands in Israel.

Posted by gorb 2007-11-25 07:37|| 2007-11-25 07:37|| Front Page Top

#6 Israel will start to reduce its power supply to the Gaza Strip...

Just doin' their part to reduce global warming...

Posted by Raj 2007-11-25 07:57|| 2007-11-25 07:57|| Front Page Top

#7 Should stop & think before you open your mouth Red---you're giving your biggest secret away.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2007-11-25 07:59|| 2007-11-25 07:59|| Front Page Top

#8 Did Aris hijack gromgoru's IP address? I just don't recall this nastiness in the distant past. But it is becoming more and more frequent and obnoxious. Perhaps it's a digestive malady.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-11-25 08:37|| 2007-11-25 08:37|| Front Page Top

#9 As I pointed out before, some people confuse patriotism with loyalty to the chief. Too bad. That's how wars are lost---and we just cannot afford to lose that one.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2007-11-25 08:45|| 2007-11-25 08:45|| Front Page Top

#10 I thought all Israelis studied both Arabic and English in school. Perhaps I'm mistaken. But it would be a bit difficult for the Israeli Army to operate in the Palestinian territories, Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, etc if the troops couldn't read the street signs...

Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife 2007-11-25 09:28|| 2007-11-25 09:28|| Front Page Top

#11 gr(0)mgoru, I agree with NS - your tone is nastier and nastier of late and the overwhelming majority of your targets are Americans and US policy rather than the mess in Israel.

I can understand your worry and your anger. This is a very dangerous time for Israel and for the world. And you understandably don't like the pressure for a negotiated settlement in the middle East.

But anger at your allies is less than helpful. For one thing, such anger can go both ways -- I personally have a number of deep angers about actions of Israel in the not too distant past myself, based on direct experience supporting Israeli defense projects and being lied to and deeply manipulated by my Israeli counterparts.

None of which matters. What matters is that we work together to deal with the realities facing us today. You snipe at Americans and US actions, but seldom offer any effective alternative solutions. Moreover, one suspects that those you would offer are either not being pursued by Israel or have proven ineffective.

It was not the Americans who elected Olmert. It is not the Americans who form the hard left in Israel, it is not the Americans who have engaged in political corruption in Israel. And it was not the Americans who formed the policies that set up the unfinished business in your part of the world that has persisted in one way or another for 60 years.

But neither are we free of responsibility for the actions we *have* taken. Be specific in criticisms and offer solutions. But stop alienating those who would be your strongest allies.

Posted by lotp 2007-11-25 10:05|| 2007-11-25 10:05|| Front Page Top

#12 Israel should do something about it being the #3 destination for "white" slaves too. It shows a weak moral character.

Okay... back to hoping Israel makes it.

Posted by 3dc 2007-11-25 12:51|| 2007-11-25 12:51|| Front Page Top

#13 #7 Should stop & think before you open your mouth Red---you're giving your biggest secret away.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2007-11-25 07:59|| Front Page|| ||Comments Top

Yes you're almost there g(r)omgoru... and by all means spit it out, come on share your paranoid secret about my "secret"!

:)

I thought all Israelis studied both Arabic and English in school. Perhaps I'm mistaken. But it would be a bit difficult for the Israeli Army to operate in the Palestinian territories, Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, etc if the troops couldn't read the street signs...

yes dear TW, i'm sure they do.. as they should. Now if we can just encourage the Israelis in any language, to turn all the power off until every rocket and rocketeer is destroyed!

Posted by Red Dawg">Red Dawg 2007-11-25 14:14|| 2007-11-25 14:14|| Front Page Top

#14 Democracies get the governments that they deserve. This Israeli government stands in stark contrast to the governments of Menachem Begin and Golda Mier, but Olmert is there because a majority of Israelis put him there and tolerate his administration's fecklessness.

How are we different? 9-11 has become a dim memory. The intelligence and state departments are permeated with partisans and penetrated with Muslim moles. At least the corruption in Israel is financial. How does one explain the corruption on our southern border? Not likely to be financial with Sr. Busheron, but something for sure. If American tolerate business as usual, the outcome will be the same for us as for Israel. We had all better learn Arabic, or have a hideout in the hills, because we will loose everything

Posted by SR-71">SR-71 2007-11-25 19:42|| 2007-11-25 19:42|| Front Page Top

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