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2007-11-23 Iraq
VDH : Iraq’s Savage Ironies
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Posted by anonymous5089 2007-11-23 06:08|| || Front Page|| [4 views ]  Top
 File under: Iraqi Insurgency 

#1 Coulda, shoulda, woulda?

A ruthless two to three month campaign that would have brought a tear to o'Ganghis Khan's eye would have brought screaming condemnation from the world community [of course doing what we did also brought screaming condemnation from the world community]. Which would have only heartened the usual transnational progressives, but unlikely anyone else who'd forgotten and moved on in life four years later. It would have pulled the rug from underneath those despicable pols who've used, abused, and exposed our troops to greater danger and encouraged the enemy to make just one more big headline to send the weakling Americans packing. It would have removed the internal political pressure that the republic is under because those same pols who seek to gain short term political advantages for a 'couple more Senate seats' wouldn't have had the issue in the first place. This has all wretched up the pressure and removed rational discourse from the political climate within the republic. Lines are being drawn from which neither side is going to back down.

Yes, we finally figured it out and are cleaning up aisle 3, but before we pat ourselves on the back, there may yet be a bigger price to pay back home. Once, we're distracted what mischief and dangers will take root, before we can attend the garden again?

Posted by Procopius2k 2007-11-23 08:18||   2007-11-23 08:18|| Front Page Top

#2 Polls in the Arab world show a decline in support for suicide bombing, and a radical change of heart about bin Laden.

Don't like it much when they're the ones gettin' kilt by the 'splodeydopes, do they? Nor are they happy with having their preferred methods of savagery served up to them in equal measure. Still, please note the absence of death fatwas upon bin Laden or Qaradawi—the principal sanctioner of vest bombers—because this is the bottom line. Nowhere is there a wholesale rejection of terrorism, only a hue and cry over it being used against Muslims. All we're getting is lip service and none of us should be fooled by it.

Tribal sheiks feel that they have restored the honor that was lost in Saddam’s three-week rout, by fighting the Americans tooth-and-nail for four years. That said, they now have learned that resistance brought them nothing but defeat and, if it continues, abject humiliation.

Which tells me that we'd have probably been more wise to simply off these gangsters from the outset. None of them are tired of killing us, they're tired of us killing them. That does not represent a satisfactory resolution of this conflict. All it promises is a swift reversion back to their usual barbarity the moment we turn our backs.

It may well be that the Sunni tribes have learned, only through their failed insurgency, that they cannot defeat the U.S. military; that their Sunni al Qaeda allies were far worse than we are; that the Shiite government is not going away; and that the United States is an honest broker of sorts that is advancing their interests with the Shiite majority.

I wouldn't bet a plug nickel on such a notion. Hatred of America and all things Western runs far too deep for any such swift turnaround. Islam's top echelons of hatemongering clerics and politicians need to be scraped away with brutal force to serve notice that continued aggression against the West carries a lethal price tag.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-11-23 09:50||   2007-11-23 09:50|| Front Page Top

#3 Word, Zenster.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2007-11-23 19:09||   2007-11-23 19:09|| Front Page Top

#4  Nowhere is there a wholesale rejection of terrorism, only a hue and cry over it being used against Muslims. All we're getting is lip service and none of us should be fooled by it.


Unforunately, all you have to do is change Muslims to nutroots and you could just as well be talking about our country.
Posted by Mike N. 2007-11-23 19:24||   2007-11-23 19:24|| Front Page Top

#5 Unfortunately, all you have to do is change Muslims to nutroots and you could just as well be talking about our country.

Except that the nutroots are cowards, and pussies. There aren't as many of them as all their noise and fury would lead one to believe.

They'll be dealt with, by and by.
Posted by One Eyed Cleter3183 2007-11-23 21:17||   2007-11-23 21:17|| Front Page Top

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