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2006-11-15 Syria-Lebanon-Iran

Walid Phares : Hezbollah's Offensive In Lebanon Has Begun

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Posted by anonymous5089 2006-11-15 10:24|| || Front Page|| [11131 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 The Lebanon campaign of 2006 will be remembered as a failure. A failure on Israel's part to crush Hizballah. A failure on our part to widen the battle to Syria and Iran. A failure on the part of the UN to enforce its resolutions. And finally a failure on the part of Middle East Moslems to clean up their act and support a fledgling democratic movement against tyrants.

The consequences of these failures are developing. The ultimate consequence will be more violent death of innocents. Millions if not tens of millions of us.

Posted by Kalle (kafir forever) 2006-11-15 11:29|| 2006-11-15 11:29|| Front Page Top

#2 Or not.

Sorry, Kalle, but I'm tired of this. I've been countering it all morning for what it is - nothing. Same old shit, day in, day out. Lots of fears projected and direness declared. Personal agendas and schedules unmet declared as failure. Yet we're still here. Israel's still there. Go figure, huh?

My hands are wrung, my ankles bitten, my patience exhausted.

Say Doom!

You Doom & Gloom guys carry on. What will happen will happen. I'm worn out. Fugg it.

Posted by .com 2006-11-15 11:40|| 2006-11-15 11:40|| Front Page Top

#3 so what's your realistic solution, Kalle?

Posted by anon 2006-11-15 11:42|| 2006-11-15 11:42|| Front Page Top

#4 Not doom and gloom. Just trying to be a realist and ready for future events. I see this as one campaign in a long war. It does mean that the next time Israel is attacked from Lebanon, the toll will be heavier and the outcome won't be clear-cut. Especially if Iran is allowed to continue is WMD programs. Which is the case.

I don't have a realistic SOLUTION. I don't see NOW how we can continue to wage war on State Sponsors of terrorism. What I do see is a lack of Western political will to wage or win that war, while Moslems feel they have the wind in the sail. We have the military might but not the political will, in large part because our social and intellectual foundations have been thoroughly undermined for the past 50 years.

9/11 woke America -- but in what respect? Is it doom and gloom to opine that as of late 2006 we --the Western world-- have not strengthened the will and initiative to wage this war? and to wonder what it will take? I'll believe we didn't hit the snooze button if Iran gets hit (by the USA, not Israel) in the next 6-12 months. And even that wouldn't be enough. Are we going to drill our own oil and build up nuclear power plants, or keep sending money to Moslem tyrants?

Posted by Kalle (kafir forever) 2006-11-15 11:57|| 2006-11-15 11:57|| Front Page Top

#5 and since the War won't be over by 2008 -- what kind of President will rise to the occasion and lead the country? I see a lot of potential candidates focusing on anything but that issue. That would my most immediate solution -- finding and encouraging the right candidates -- no matter what GWB achieves with the Democrats, or what he doesn't.

Posted by Kalle (kafir forever) 2006-11-15 12:03|| 2006-11-15 12:03|| Front Page Top

#6 what was it that made the country choose Carter after Democrats forced the abandonment of Vietnam? what does it take to prevent something similar from happening again?

Posted by Kalle (kafir forever) 2006-11-15 12:06|| 2006-11-15 12:06|| Front Page Top

#7 In the war, Israel flattened the three major Hezbollah centers, including South Beirut. Hezbollah claims to have passed out $300 million in repair funds. The terrorists have also resupplied missiles to the front lines. This happens as the UN monitors cross border surveillance by the IAF. Israel has no alternative but to attack terror at its source: Iran. And they won't be alone. Carrier task forces are sitting in the Indian Ocean, waiting for orders.

Posted by Sneaze Shaiting3550 2006-11-15 13:55|| 2006-11-15 13:55|| Front Page Top

#8 They're still there, SS3550?

I thought that was just a little coincidence when the shift changed.

Posted by Bobby 2006-11-15 14:39|| 2006-11-15 14:39|| Front Page Top

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