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2022-10-08 Government Corruption
Has the C.I.A. Done More Harm Than Good?
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Posted by Besoeker 2022-10-08 01:55|| || Front Page|| [11 views ]  Top

#1 Four million people in the United States now have security clearances.

Including the ones like Hunter.
Posted by Dron66046 2022-10-08 02:22||   2022-10-08 02:22|| Front Page Top

#2 DPM was one of very few Dems that I ever respected.

Ever since his "Defining Deviancy Down" essay I felt that he could tell up from down.
Posted by AlanC 2022-10-08 09:35||   2022-10-08 09:35|| Front Page Top

#3 Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan from back when Democrats came in other varieties than 'corrupt' and/or 'crazed leftists'. Miss him.
Posted by magpie 2022-10-08 09:49||   2022-10-08 09:49|| Front Page Top

#4 The CIA does not trumpet its successes. Is that because it has none?
Posted by Herman Throsing5918 2022-10-08 11:18||   2022-10-08 11:18|| Front Page Top

#5 Moynihan wrote a book at the time called, appropriately enough, Secrecy. It made the same point as Dron comment #1 - half the government has some sort of clearance or another. DPM tried to point out how ridiculous it was to stamp everything SECRET and admirably attempted to stem the tide. His Senate seat then passed to Hillary who set new high scores in the Deep State video game of compartmentalizing and operating outside public view. Reach a certain level and whole new worlds open up.
Posted by York Harding 2022-10-08 11:37||   2022-10-08 11:37|| Front Page Top

#6 Everyone in Latin America hates us because of the CIA
The rest of the world distrusts us because of the CIA
We have a massive drug problem in the us because of them
And they’ve been dead wrong on so many intelligence failures

Does that answer your question?
I hate them
Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom  2022-10-08 12:18||   2022-10-08 12:18|| Front Page Top

#7 Who cares about the CIA's successes? They don't represent our interests. That's reason enough for them to be disbanded.

"Even if Russia was trying to swing the election, we try to swing their elections, our CIA is doing s**t all the time, we're out there trying to manipulate governments," Bonifield said.
Posted by Spike the Hairy6811 2022-10-08 12:43||   2022-10-08 12:43|| Front Page Top

#8 Ref #6: Then you also "hate" the Deep State SPOD.

Or have I made an incorrect assessment ?
Posted by Besoeker 2022-10-08 12:57||   2022-10-08 12:57|| Front Page Top

#9 Loathe and despise Besoeker
Loathe and despise
They tried to kill me twice in Angola and hung me out to dry in Rhodesia
I slept with a Colt under my pillow for years because they outed me to a hostile country
Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom  2022-10-08 14:08||   2022-10-08 14:08|| Front Page Top

#10 /\  If he were yet with us today, Lt. Col. Ron Reid-Daly would probably share your sentiments SPOD. I for one, salute your service.
Posted by Besoeker 2022-10-08 14:22||   2022-10-08 14:22|| Front Page Top

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Posted by Dron66046 2022-10-08 14:45||   2022-10-08 14:45|| Front Page Top

#12 Given what I have read so far, y'all make this pretty hard not to post a comment that does not make the response threshold as:




I've read so many, this site is about to go out of business.... really - The Culinary Institute of America --- has nothing to do with this situation... /sarc off
Posted by Bill Phusotch4496 2022-10-08 20:12||   2022-10-08 20:12|| Front Page Top

#13 It's never BEEN a business. It's Fred's Labor of Love. If you don't like it, feel free to start your own and disappear from here, oh Anonymous One? Nobody's stopping you
Posted by Frank G 2022-10-08 20:28||   2022-10-08 20:28|| Front Page Top

#14 because they outed me to a hostile country

The great unwashed Americans?

Wait...so you no longer sleep on a Colt?
Posted by Skidmark 2022-10-08 20:46||   2022-10-08 20:46|| Front Page Top

#15 #6 Everyone in Latin America hates us because of the CIA
The rest of the world distrusts us because of the CIA

They feel the same way about Mossad but in most cases because they blame everything bad that happens on those two groups evidence or not. Hollywood makes it worse as the CIA has been the secret villain in nearly every spy movie since the Cold War ended (and a large number before).

CIA is in the awkward position of being unable to scream their accomplishments.

Just trying to be fair here, I'm still a bit biter that they missed the fall of the Soviet Union.
Posted by ruprecht 2022-10-08 21:56||   2022-10-08 21:56|| Front Page Top

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