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2011-10-08 Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Israel to Assad: We Will Bomb Gaza, Whole of Lebanon if Tel Aviv Attacked
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Posted by Fred 2011-10-08 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11134 views ]  Top
 File under: Govt of Syria 

#1 ION PAKISTANI DEFENCE FORUM > [WND.com = long] NATO PREPS FOR NEW WAR, SYRIAN CHIEF WARNS ATTACK [NATO milstrike agz Syria] WILL SET MIDDLE EAST AFLAME.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2011-10-08 00:25||   2011-10-08 00:25|| Front Page Top

#2 OOOOPSIES, forgot SAME > ISRAEL WARNED [by US = Leon Panetta] OVER LONE STRIKE AGZ IRAN.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2011-10-08 00:29||   2011-10-08 00:29|| Front Page Top

#3 Assad had warned that he would "set fire" to the Middle East

He says it like that is a bad thing.
Posted by SteveS 2011-10-08 08:23||   2011-10-08 08:23|| Front Page Top

#4 The Israelis always think before issuing threats, so though this message is directed at Assad, it isn't aimed to persuade him of anything. Instead it is to let Hamas, Hizbullah, and the Lebanese government know that attacks on Tel Aviv mean that *they* are going to be pounded so hard that they will not ever forget it.

Importantly what is backing up this plan is that the US is accelerating shipment to Israel of 5,000 smart bombs, including 500 penetrating “bunker buster” bombs (BLU-109)(2,000 pound).

The rest of the deal are 2,500-909 kg (2,000 pound) bombs, a thousand 455 kg (1,000 pound) bombs and 500-227 kg (500 pound) bombs.

Israel already has several hundred of the GBU-24 (Paveway III, 2,000 pound) penetrators, and a hundred of the larger (2.5 ton) GBU-28s. This bomb can penetrate 32 meters (100 feet) of earth, or six meters (20 feet) of concrete. The lighter GBU-24 can manage less than half that.
Posted by Anonymoose 2011-10-08 09:06||   2011-10-08 09:06|| Front Page Top

#5 HMMM, NOW where to? DROP them?
Posted by Redneck Jim 2011-10-08 11:18||   2011-10-08 11:18|| Front Page Top

#6 "...penetrate 20 meters of concrete."

I'm no military expert expert, but can't the bad guys simply make the bunkers 21+ feet thick?
Posted by Durnham Freebody 2011-10-08 12:20||   2011-10-08 12:20|| Front Page Top

#7 Are you sure the bunker-busters will penetrate only 20 meters of concrete, DF?

Oh, I know that's what they say ....
Posted by Barbara 2011-10-08 12:46||   2011-10-08 12:46|| Front Page Top

#8  "...penetrate 20 meters of concrete."

So drop *another* bomb. Or two. Anything worth blowing up is worth blowing up real good.
Posted by SteveS 2011-10-08 13:15||   2011-10-08 13:15|| Front Page Top

#9 even if a single bomb doesn't actually penetrate, it displaces concrete, and creates pressure that has to go somewhere. You would not likely leave that bunker upright and in one piece with your senses intact
Posted by Frank G 2011-10-08 13:22||   2011-10-08 13:22|| Front Page Top

#10 Believe they did this for the Palace bunker in Baghdad in 2003. Granted it was pointless to bomb it in the first place since Saddam wasn't there but they still did one then another strategy.
Posted by Charles 2011-10-08 16:18||   2011-10-08 16:18|| Front Page Top

#11 Even if the concrete is 21 meters thick, if the penetrator reaches 20 meters before exploding, you do not want to be in the bunker. There is an effect known as spalling, which means sharp fast-moving pieces of the concrete are blasted loose from the INSIDE section of the bunker, and then bounce around until they hit something soft and stick in it; or pulverize from impact.
Posted by Shieldwolf 2011-10-08 18:29||   2011-10-08 18:29|| Front Page Top

#12 Besides, 20 meters translates to 66 FEET of poured concrete. And if it is not properly reinforced with rebar, it has a major problem with structural failure and collapse when subjected to an internal blast wave. Besides which, it is a bear to work with that much concrete, and avoid bubbles and voids in what you have poured.
Posted by Shieldwolf 2011-10-08 18:33||   2011-10-08 18:33|| Front Page Top

#13 My bad, 20 meters is only 65 FEET. I am not sure that extra foot would matter all that much.
Posted by Shieldwolf 2011-10-08 18:36||   2011-10-08 18:36|| Front Page Top

#14 A 60+ ft perimeter of solid concrete is a helluva lot of concrete. Not many places that it would be practical to build, where it will require such resources.
Posted by Scooter McGruder 2011-10-08 22:34||   2011-10-08 22:34|| Front Page Top

#15 it would require cooling water to carry away the heat of hydration if poured quickly. If poured slowly, it would get its' own GPS coordinate
Posted by Frank G 2011-10-08 22:37||   2011-10-08 22:37|| Front Page Top

#16 Why not threaten someone pencilneck actually cares about?
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2011-10-08 23:24||   2011-10-08 23:24|| Front Page Top

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