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2010-09-18 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by Fred 2010-09-18 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11129 views ] Top

#1 Well, as a "moderate" slightly right of center voter all I can ask you to do is stop.

Please.

You are seriously fucking up the country with the progressives in your view of being a "moderate". Please retire and go do doilies or something.

Posted by DarthVader 2010-09-18 00:55|| 2010-09-18 00:55|| Front Page Top

#2 Snowe is a pre-1924 Republican. She is of the 'progressive' Republican type prevalent at the end of the 19th century and start of the 20th. Such Republicans included Teddy Roosevelt, Taft and Hoover. They firmly believed in what was the Progressive vision at the time.

That was the Republican party that survived as the 'Rockefeller wing', the 'establishment', the 'northeast' Republicans, etc. all the way through Reagan and today.

Understand that and you understand from where she's coming.

Posted by Steve White 2010-09-18 09:52|| 2010-09-18 09:52|| Front Page Top

#3 Sorta like an American flag with the product label marked as "Made in China"....or Thailand...or Bangladesh...or...

Posted by Procopius2k 2010-09-18 10:34|| 2010-09-18 10:34|| Front Page Top

#4 Steve: And don't forget that they were all in favor of the 16th and 17th Amendments, and that Teddy's ego was so great he was willing to destroy the Republican party to get back into power.

Posted by Anonymoose 2010-09-18 11:15|| 2010-09-18 11:15|| Front Page Top

#5 Moose,

The corruption we see in Washington today was rampant in state capitals across the country with dividends and they were a lot cheaper to buy and own. To get a view of what the Senate was like back then just look at what Daddy Dear sent to Washington from Alaska, or what the machine selected to fill Obama's seat these days. Now multiply that by every state. That's why the 17th was passed. The Senate was basically one big Chicago city council. It's taken about a hundred years of economic growth to overcome the intent of the amendment, but the selection of Tea Party endorsed candidates would never occur today if it hadn't been added to the basic document.

Posted by Procopius2k 2010-09-18 11:39|| 2010-09-18 11:39|| Front Page Top

#6 What you say is true, P2K, but repeal of the 17th seriously unbalanced the Federal system. Healthcare would never have passed and we wouldn't have all these unfunded mandates if the states were involved int he Federal government as they should be. In spite of the problems the 17th was intended to rectify, it has been an overall failure and should be repealed, as should the 16th. Barring repeal, Randy Barnett has proposed an amendment allowing 2/3 of the states to veto and federal law. That's a winner also.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2010-09-18 11:59|| 2010-09-18 11:59|| Front Page Top

#7 ..or basically constitutionally outlawing any federal mandates by the legislative, executive or judicial branches in name or upon to the states that require them to expend resources or levy and raise taxes to support them. If the fed wants a program, they can fund the program and bear the full cost.

Posted by Procopius2k 2010-09-18 12:29|| 2010-09-18 12:29|| Front Page Top

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