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2007-08-03 China-Japan-Koreas

SKorea Focuses Anger Over Hostages on US

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Posted by Steve White 2007-08-03 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11126 views ] Top
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#1 How many people did the US lose defending that state? How many are there now defending SKOR?

Posted by newc">newc 2007-08-03 00:23|| 2007-08-03 00:23|| Front Page Top

#2 Politicians and citizens of all persuasions are increasingly calling on Washington to help resolve the 15-day-old standoff

May I suggest a method similar to that by which we deal with North Korea? As in, no negotiations at all without unconditional terms.

This is ingratitude writ large and South Korea needs to go piss up a rope.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-08-03 00:43|| 2007-08-03 00:43|| Front Page Top

#3 Good Lord, what the hell has happened to the South Koreans? They used to have balls...

Posted by Ricky bin Ricardo (Abu Babaloo) 2007-08-03 01:47|| 2007-08-03 01:47|| Front Page Top

#4 WORLDTRIBUNE/EAST-ASIA INTEL > US CDR Tom Keating > China proposed it + USA formally split the Pacific Region/Ocean into bi-lateral spheres of influence, wid China controlling WESTPAC whilst the USA controls EASTPAC. *RADICAL ISLAMISTS COMPLAIN WHERE'S THEIR BETEL NUT; RUSSIANS P *** OFF AT MACKENZIE BROS., CLAIMING ARCTIC - News at 11. D *** ng it, WHOOPI GOLDBERG IS NOW ON "THE VIEW"!

Posted by JosephMendiola 2007-08-03 02:21|| 2007-08-03 02:21|| Front Page Top

#5 Keep in mind, too, that just because the Washington Post writes something, it doesn't make it true. Sometimes the media likes to attempt to create a general reality by taking a position held by only a few and portraying it as being a more popular position than it really is. That tradition goes all the way back to Ben Franklin.

The article does not quote a single ROK official and only reports on one candlelight vigil. And they use language like "An anti-American backlash could boost liberals" which basically translates into "if we can inflate this big enough and CREATE a backlash ..."

This is just words that someone sitting at a keyboard pecked into a computer. They are attempting to create a reality here, not reporting on a reality that exists.

Posted by crosspatch 2007-08-03 03:20|| 2007-08-03 03:20|| Front Page Top

#6 This is just words that someone sitting at a keyboard pecked into a computer. They are attempting to create a reality here, not reporting on a reality that exists.

Thank you for the reality check, crosspatch. Sometimes connecting previous behavior over to exaggerated crap the MSM spins up is a little too easy.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-08-03 04:13|| 2007-08-03 04:13|| Front Page Top

#7 Told you. A bunch of idealistic morons goes dancing around a combat zone, and all the sudden it's our fault.

Posted by gromky 2007-08-03 04:14|| 2007-08-03 04:14|| Front Page Top

#8 A bunch of idealistic morons

So which "idealistic morons" shall we blame? Those in the Oval Office? The Liberal Left? The Fair Weather Allies?

Despite all previous convictions, I no longer am so inclined to vent my wrath upon the Oval Office. There are far too many recipients of the USA's largess who simply refuse to admit that American culture is superior, whereby I'm happy to see all of them steamrolled into so much glassphalt.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-08-03 04:59|| 2007-08-03 04:59|| Front Page Top

#9 Behold displacement in all its glory.

Maybe Vlad Dracul had the right idea after all.

Posted by N Guard 2007-08-03 05:57|| 2007-08-03 05:57|| Front Page Top

#10 2nd Infantry Division, declare victory and come on home! Let the North and the South join in eating Spot.

Posted by Besoeker 2007-08-03 06:06|| 2007-08-03 06:06|| Front Page Top

#11 Told you. A bunch of idealistic morons goes dancing around a combat zone, and all the sudden it's our fault.

This may well force the Afghan government to forbid all missionaries and other NGOs -- or even all foreign civilians -- entry into the country, just because a foolish Korean pastor chose to bring a group of ignorantly well-intentioned, grandmotherly, church ladies with him when he returned this year. The Taliban and the tradition of banditry continue to cost Afghanis dearly.

Posted by trailing wife 2007-08-03 06:16|| 2007-08-03 06:16|| Front Page Top

#12 If everybody would just surrender to those with the meanest, nastiest disposition, everybody'd be happy!

Who was it that said, "Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute"? Some old guy, I think.

Thomas Jefferson, I believe.

Posted by Bobby 2007-08-03 06:26|| 2007-08-03 06:26|| Front Page Top

#13 Bobby,
"Millions for defense..." was said in response to demands by Muslim pirates of North Africa; the response was the deployment of 'Old Ironsides', among others. A most appropriate quotation for this article.

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2007-08-03 07:27|| 2007-08-03 07:27|| Front Page Top

#14 South Koreans are increasingly questioning what they have received from the U.S. in exchange for sending soldiers to support the U.S.-led coalitions in Iraq and Afghanistan

My nomination for quote of the week.

Posted by gromgoru 2007-08-03 07:44|| 2007-08-03 07:44|| Front Page Top

#15 Despite what the reality checker says (and I do appreciate you!), anti-americanism is ramped in SKOR. Especially among the young. The people who can remember the war still are very strong supporters of the US, but the North's propaganda for the rest of the population has worked wonders. Almost every soldier I know that has been over there wonders what the hell we are still doing there. SKOR is more than capable nowdays of defending itself from the North's temper tantrums (with a little help from our air power) and I fully believe we should pull all of our forces out, as it is only going to get worse. Americans are being treated like the Jew in Europe.

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2007-08-03 08:05|| 2007-08-03 08:05|| Front Page Top

#16 TELL THE SOUTH KOREANS THEY ARE NOT EATING TREE BARK OR SPEAKING MANDARIN. THATS WHAT THEY GOT

Posted by sinse 2007-08-03 08:21|| 2007-08-03 08:21|| Front Page Top

#17 As the hostage crisis drags on, South Koreans are increasingly questioning what they have received from the U.S. in exchange for sending soldiers to support the U.S.-led coalitions in Iraq and Afghanistan.

For starters:

1. About 35,000 dead Americans from 1950-1953 enabling you to have the right to act like the ungrateful bunch of assholes that you are.
2. The fourth largest economy in Asia and the twelfth largest in the world.

I suppose I could add stuff like "a diet not based on tree bark and pond scum", "electricity"... but why get picky.
It'll make it easier for everybody if from now on you tell your religious quacks to stay out of a place where there's a war going on with people who would like nothing better then to have them for dinner. Literally.
The old man landed at Inchon, fought his way into Seoul and froze his ass off at Chosin Resevoir. These people piss me off.

Posted by tu3031 2007-08-03 09:01|| 2007-08-03 09:01|| Front Page Top

#18 Almost every soldier I know that has been over there wonders what the hell we are still doing there

Because of politicians who live in the beltway never never land. It's the State Department playing games with our troops for their ego edification. "See, we're important." Allied with the organization empire builders at the Pentagon who should have learned from the Philippine experience, that the troops should have been home before 2000. If the SKors can't defend themselves by now - tough. Its military welfare for the, relatively, rich.

Posted by Procopius2k 2007-08-03 09:07|| 2007-08-03 09:07|| Front Page Top

#19 Actually it was Rep. Robert Goodloe Harper, chair of House Ways & Means, 6/18/1798, when the French under Napoleon had seized some US ships and wanted a substantial bribe to release them. He told 'em to get stuffed. Same idea, different asshats.

As for SORKS, they can get stuffed too. Our deployment of 30K+ US armed forces there is based on a 50+ year old UN agreement and an outdated political theory (anti-Communism and "domino theory").

As to what they got - what sinse & TU said. At the cost of: 36574 US dead, 103284 US wounded, 7224 US POW, 8176 US MIA, and 21 former US citizens as new SORKS absolutely free.

Posted by sofia 2007-08-03 09:26|| 2007-08-03 09:26|| Front Page Top

#20 Agreed Darth,

You only have to go there to know that Anti-Americanism is like Starbucks to Korea - everywhere. Sorry to burst the it is the MSM bubble.

And yes, with them, it will only get worse.

Posted by bombay">bombay 2007-08-03 09:38|| 2007-08-03 09:38|| Front Page Top

#21 Gosh, I'm sure sorry your missionaries didn't have enough sense to stay out of a war zone!

Posted by mojo">mojo 2007-08-03 11:23|| 2007-08-03 11:23|| Front Page Top

#22 Taking another angle at it...note that while they *loathe/despise* us, they also claim that the U.S. is the only one who can "do something about it" (which, in reality, is true).

But also, just the thought of us agreeing to help release 8-10 Talibunnies (who will go back to the battlefield to face our soldiers) for 23 or so Korean naive missionaries is absurd. The only part of this equation that I agree with is the ratio of lives (1 Korean worth 3 Talibunnies) is a good start. Complete opposite from the Paleo demands of the Joos, in terms of lives-ratios.

Posted by BA 2007-08-03 14:21|| 2007-08-03 14:21|| Front Page Top

#23 Re: #9, N Guard "Maybe Vlad Dracul had the right idea after all."

Word. And afterwards, the smaller pikes could be used for a pigroast.....

Posted by USN, Ret. 2007-08-03 14:36|| 2007-08-03 14:36|| Front Page Top

#24 "just because a foolish Korean pastor chose to bring a group of ignorantly well-intentioned, grandmotherly, church ladies with him when he returned this year."

That is absolutely true. At what point do the people who engage in nonsense like this have to be held personally respnsible for their actions? I sure as hell wouldn't take a busload of folks from MY church traipsing around the Afghan countryside.

What the hell did they expect? And now it is OUR fault because THEY are idiots? Hell, I wouldn't take a busload of church folks riding around parts of Oakland, let alone Afghanistan.

Posted by crosspatch 2007-08-03 15:05|| 2007-08-03 15:05|| Front Page Top

#25 No doubt the usual SK suspects are trying to stir up anti-US sentiment, but a perusal of the English-language South Korean media leads me to believe that the WP-AP is exaggerating the SK-US divide in regards to this matter.

Posted by mrp 2007-08-03 16:29|| 2007-08-03 16:29|| Front Page Top

#26 Whenever the Norks threaten, the Sorks blame the US for provoking them. So much for the billions spent of Sork security.

Posted by Phinert de Medici8649 2007-08-03 17:24|| 2007-08-03 17:24|| Front Page Top

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