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2005-07-18 China-Japan-Koreas

US not to sanction Europe arms sales to China

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Posted by Anonymoose 2005-07-18 00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Not good, not good at all.

Posted by Tony (UK) 2005-07-18 03:42|| 2005-07-18 03:42|| Front Page Top

#2 Agreed, Tony. The US has to stop the leakage of its military tech to potentially hostile states and stopping military cooperation with countries and companies that leak is the way to do it. Note that Tony and I are not Americans.

Posted by phil_b 2005-07-18 07:48|| 2005-07-18 07:48|| Front Page Top

#3 This is absolutly outragious,can't these idiots see that they are giving the Chicoms the tech that will be used to kill our sons and daughters.

Posted by raptor 2005-07-18 09:16|| 2005-07-18 09:16|| Front Page Top

#4 ...on all international firms supplying weapons to China and national governments that agree to it.

There is the weak link of the whole treaty. Pretty much worthless then.
I say we just boycott everything from France and Germany if they go through with this. It seems to be the only option left.

Posted by mmurray821 2005-07-18 09:32|| 2005-07-18 09:32|| Front Page Top

#5 You need a rope with which to hang me? Have I got a deal for you.

Posted by Jackal">Jackal 2005-07-18 10:01|| home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html]">[home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html] 2005-07-18 10:01|| Front Page Top

#6 Whores.

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-07-18 10:03|| 2005-07-18 10:03|| Front Page Top

#7 lost American jobs or lost American lives to Chinese shooting American technology weapons? I say the greed loses, and if the companies have to deal tech to our enemies, then they should be out of business and in prison, right Loral?

Perhaps we should allow slain/injured servicemembers and their families to sue the companies if the firm's technology is used against us, inasmuch as they knowingly aided our enemies?

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-07-18 10:05|| 2005-07-18 10:05|| Front Page Top

#8 Sell they Taiwanese all the Trident subs they want, with the stipulation they keep a few in the Atlantic for when the Chinese attack with their new French/German weapons.

Posted by ed 2005-07-18 10:10|| 2005-07-18 10:10|| Front Page Top

#9 Opponents of the bill had suggested that more controls on arms exports would cause additional losses of jobs in the US,..

Who in the hell said this? Sounds like these people are in desperate need of corrective lenses. Either that or they should stop using the cardboard tubes in the middle of rolls of paper towels as visual aids.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-07-18 11:31|| 2005-07-18 11:31|| Front Page Top

#10 It's highly unlikely that, given the aggressive stance of the Chicoms, the EU embargo will be lifted. Even if it were ALL sensitive arms exports would be under strict control and not done without US consent. Continued partnership with the US is so much more important than the money that could be made with China. Gains would not reach a billion dollars, the damage done by Chinese copycats much greater.

And China won't be getting any "friendlier" in the next years so I think every year the lifting of the embargo is getting less likely. The Chinese general just "nuked" the lifting of the embargo for the next years with his stupid threats.

Posted by True German Ally 2005-07-18 13:07|| 2005-07-18 13:07|| Front Page Top

#11 The Chinese general just "nuked" the lifting of the embargo for the next years with his stupid threats.

Nice anology!

Posted by mmurray821 2005-07-18 13:10|| 2005-07-18 13:10|| Front Page Top

#12 Sorry TGA. I don't trust the French, they will find some petty reason to make sales. If the French make sales, the Germans will follow. The technology transfers will happen and The Chinese will clone the weapons and flood the arms market with cheap copies. We all all be less safe. Just wonderful.

Congress critters are morons, but we knew that.

Posted by Sock Puppet 0â Doom 2005-07-18 14:00|| 2005-07-18 14:00|| Front Page Top

#13 They could also find out like the Israelis did that the Chinese make unreliable partners; they're selling some of the targeting pod tech they got from the Israelis as part of the Lavi project in a cheap knockoff.

(I know I pointed this out before. I just thought I would again).

Posted by Phil Fraering 2005-07-18 14:23|| http://newsfromthefridge.typepad.com]">[http://newsfromthefridge.typepad.com] 2005-07-18 14:23|| Front Page Top

#14 SpoD, with the new German government come September that is highly unlikely.
I don't trust the French either. But most sophisticated arms technology is no longer the production of one European country so the French can't sell what they want to whom EVEN if the embargo was lifted.

Posted by True German Ally 2005-07-18 14:59|| 2005-07-18 14:59|| Front Page Top

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