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NYT: COLLAPSE OF THE EARTH'S MAGNETIC FIELD ACCELERATES!
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Posted by Frank G 2004-07-12 18:21|| || Front Page|| [11132 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 subtitle: We're All Gonna Die!
Posted by Frank G  2004-07-12 6:21:47 PM||   2004-07-12 6:21:47 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 But it's still Bush's fault!!!
Posted by anymouse  2004-07-12 6:23:29 PM||   2004-07-12 6:23:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 "Women and Migrating Birds Hardest Hit!"
Posted by mojo  2004-07-12 6:23:54 PM||   2004-07-12 6:23:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Follow the money!
Posted by Dave D.  2004-07-12 6:30:17 PM||   2004-07-12 6:30:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 I have my handy dandy WW2 Canadian Air Force Astro Compass (sun compass) so I am Ready, baby. Got it for flying in northern Canada.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-07-12 6:38:25 PM||   2004-07-12 6:38:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 We have to send a party to 'The Core' of the earth to re-initiate the core's rotation with nuclear bombs to replenish the mangetic field!

(Plotline from 'The Core'....)
Posted by CrazyFool  2004-07-12 6:43:30 PM||   2004-07-12 6:43:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Well, OK. Now what the hell am I supposed to do about it?

I sense another Senate Committee investigation on the way.
Posted by Matt 2004-07-12 6:45:00 PM||   2004-07-12 6:45:00 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Note that the CSA battleflage is unaffected.
Posted by Shipman 2004-07-12 7:07:08 PM||   2004-07-12 7:07:08 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 see, seee ..we should of signed kyoto and averted this....oh wait kyoto was 140 later..
Posted by Dan 2004-07-12 7:14:42 PM||   2004-07-12 7:14:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Broad claims: "A reversal could ... widen atmospheric ozone holes...."

Since we now have a plausible alternative explanation, can we have freon again? ;)
Posted by AzCat 2004-07-12 7:30:37 PM||   2004-07-12 7:30:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 That would explain much of the madness in the 20th century.
Posted by True German Ally 2004-07-12 7:31:39 PM||   2004-07-12 7:31:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 One day I was walking along, not bothering anyone, a bleeding-heart tool-fool, giving to the United Way, humming "People Who Need People", and voting for Carter, an upright guy with an ever so slight tilt to the left...

Then boom!

Now...
Posted by .com 2004-07-12 7:37:36 PM||   2004-07-12 7:37:36 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 It's still all Bush's fault!!!
Posted by anymouse  2004-07-12 7:38:52 PM||   2004-07-12 7:38:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 What did George Bush know and when?!! Halliburton is behind this!! If only Bush had signed the Kyoto treaty!! Yeeee-arrrggghhh!!!! :-)
Posted by A Jackson 2004-07-12 7:39:16 PM||   2004-07-12 7:39:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Anybody know a little physics? If we built nuclear reactors on the poles, could they generate enough magnetic field to enhance or replace the Earth's? I've long heard that we can generate a field "stronger than the Earth's", but can we take over the whole deal?

Even if we don't do this on Earth, eventually we might do it on Mars. I gather its lack of a magnetic field is what has allowed the solar wind to very slowly rip away its atmosphere.

But can we do it? Is it possible?
Posted by Anonymous5545 2004-07-12 7:44:34 PM||   2004-07-12 7:44:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 We will get the best ME minds on the problem. Masood, hand me a copy of the Koran, yeah, the one with the index.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-07-12 7:46:50 PM||   2004-07-12 7:46:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 "But can we do it? Is it possible?"

Hmmm... as an engineer, I'd estimate that with a couple of VERY large nuclear power plants at the poles and some VERY large coils of wire, we could probably generate a few millionths of the earth's magnetic field over the entire planet.

The earth doesn't have a particularly strong magnetic field, but it encompasses a huge volume. The field inside an MRI machine at your local hospital is thousands-- maybe even millions-- of times stronger than the earth's, but it only exists within a cubic foot or so.
Posted by Dave D.  2004-07-12 8:20:41 PM||   2004-07-12 8:20:41 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Dave / AP - Where's Nicola when you really need him, eh?
Posted by .com 2004-07-12 8:25:13 PM||   2004-07-12 8:25:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 

Will any of this cause adverse conflict with the 'I love NY' magnet and one below it stuck on my ice box door? :)
Posted by Mark Espinola 2004-07-12 8:26:35 PM||   2004-07-12 8:26:35 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 goddam!!! i am just read about this in the david icke book last nite! he is talk about magnetic field will disappear and time accelerate very soon. he in right!!! he also say the earth is stop rotate on december 12,2012. then the full illuminati agenda is take place! omfg!!! ima run to the hills!!! i am thought that guy full of shit but he in right!
Posted by muck4doo 2004-07-12 8:29:13 PM|| [http://meatismurder.blogspot.com/]  2004-07-12 8:29:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 
ima run to the hills!!!
Uh, Mucky - the magnetic field will switch in the hills, too.....
Posted by Barbara Skolaut  2004-07-12 8:33:21 PM||   2004-07-12 8:33:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 NYT: COLLAPSE OF THE EARTH'S MAGNETIC FIELD ACCELERATES!

Few, if any, of nature's major physical events exibit completely linear characteristics. The headline might as well read:

"PLANETS' ORBITS ARE NOT PERFECTLY CIRCULAR!"

Let's disregard the fact that a polarity flip takes ONE MILLION YEARS. Giving headline space to something that happens on a gelogical timescale is a waste of the investor's money. More important and truly informative issues merit such treatment.

Unless, of course, you're not at all worried about appearing sensationalistic or losing any journalistic credibility.
Posted by Zenster 2004-07-12 8:35:27 PM||   2004-07-12 8:35:27 PM|| Front Page Top

#23 when Drudge mocks your journo credibility, it's only a matter of time before Weekly World NEws starts running:
"Pinch and Gail Collins Taking Editorial Decisions from Space Aliens! MoDo actually a Quarkian!"

which actually would explain a lot
Posted by Frank G  2004-07-12 8:42:05 PM||   2004-07-12 8:42:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#24 oh yeah! ima show you guys link! brb.
Posted by muck4doo 2004-07-12 8:42:51 PM|| [http://meatismurder.blogspot.com/]  2004-07-12 8:42:51 PM|| Front Page Top

#25 ima usualy post short but this in kinds long. if it to long please eraser fred:

A series of events, described by Gregg Braden in Awakening To Zero Point, have confirmed that the times they are a changing. In 1991 a new frequency was identified resonating from the center of the spiral of our Milky Way Galaxy and in 1994 the Ulysses Probe was sent to investigate changes on the Sun. From the mid-1980s there was a terrific increase in solar flares and X-ray bursts, and Ulysses discovered that the Sun's magnetic field was rapidly decreasing. The readings at the north and south poles and at the equator were much lower than expected. Also, while the Sun is cooling, the planets of the solar system, especially the outer ones, are heating up. This suggests that the source of planetary heat comes from within, although this may be stimulated by magnetic and electrical changes in the Sun. At the same time these changes were happening on the Sun, a storm on Jupiter, first documented by the Chinese 3,000 years ago, showed sudden changes also. A vast spiral within this Jupiter storm began to spin in the other direction. The shock waves and other phenomena caused by the collision of the comet Shoemaker-Levy into Jupiter in 1994 have also affected the wider solar system, including the Earth. What is clear is that the changes in the Sun's magnetic field have been mirrored here.

The Earth is a giant magnet with different levels rotating to create a magnetic field. The faster the Earth rotates, the more powerful and dense the magnetic field. Two thousand years ago this magnetic field reached the peak of its intensity in the current cycle and it has been falling ever since as the planet has rotated slower and slower, Braden says. The field is now 50% less powerful than it was 1,500 years ago and the speed of this fall is increasing very quickly. There is no need to panic because this is all part of a natural cycle, a longer and infinitely more powerful version of the annual seasons. Alongside this comes the news that the Earth's resonant frequency, it's heartbeat if you like, is increasing rapidly. This frequency, called the Base Resonant Frequency or Schumann Cavity Resonance, was identified in 1899. Between then and the mid-1980s, it maintained a constant pulse of around 7.8 Hertz or 7 cycles per second. But from 1986-87 it apparently began to quicken. By the end of 1995 it had readied 8,6 according to some estimates and the last I heard it was said to be above ten and sun rising. Gregg Braden believes that by the Maya transformation year of 2012, the Earth's resonance could be 13 cycles per second while her magnetic field could be at or near zero. He calls this Zero Point when the Earth's magnetic field will all but disappear because the planet's rotation will have stopped. This doesn't mean there will be no gravity because that is created by other phenomena, not the spin of the planet. Something like this seems to have happened at least 14 times in the last 4.5 million years. The last is estimated to have been about 11-13,000 years ago, a window of time, which corresponds, with many estimates of the end of Atlantis and the beginning of the recovery from that great cataclysm after about 10,500 BC. 13,000 years ago would have been the halfway point in the Great Cycle of 26,000 years, which is ending now, another time of great change. I am not saying the Earth is going to stop rotating, but I certainly would not dismiss the possibility.

It could be, however, that there was a magnetic pole shift more recently, about 3,500-600 years ago from examination of the ice in Greenland and the polar regions Every time the Earth has experienced the rapid fall in the magnetic field that we are seeing now, it has led to a pole shift when magnetic north and south change places. People like Braden estimate that the Earth will stop rotating for some days before it begins to spin in the opposite direction. As you can see when the flow of electricity through an iron bar is reversed, the poles reverse. As the planet spins in the other direction, the flow of electricity will reverse and so, therefore, must the poles. If the planet stopped rotating, one side of the Earth would be in constant sunshine and the other in darkness in this period and that is what the ancients said happened thousands of years ago. The Peruvians talked about the long night' of three days and in the Bible there is reference to daytime lasting 20 hours, the longest day. The Hopi Tribe record how the Sun rose twice in one day. First it rose in the west and se in the east and then later it rose in the east and set in the west - the cycle ever since. Other ancient accounts say the Sun used to rise in the west and set in the east, another indication that the Earth used to spin the other way. Back in the early 1990s when I was just waking up to these things, I was given some channeled information by a psychic which said: "The world is changing and the north will become south and the east, west. So it has been commanded since the beginning of lime."3 Spot on, it would seem. Brian Westborough, the scientist-researcher in California, also told me that some major geophysical events are happening that is subject to a media blackout. He confirms that the Earth's geomagnetic field is dropping at an exponential rate and will soon reach zero. He believes, as I do, that we are, to say the least, in for a very bumpy ride geologically. The US Geological Service says that the Earth's magnetic field drops to zero every 500,000 years, then slowly rebuilds, and that these are periods of cataclysmic Earth changes, earthquakes and volcanoes, because of the temporary halt in the planet's rotation. I think it happens more often than that. According to Brian's contacts, the Sun's magnetic field has already dropped to zero and it appears to have reached a higher level of conversion of hydrogen to helium. He says that solar flares are being emitted above and below the Sun's equator at latitude of 19.5 degrees. This is the point where energy is exchanged between rotating spheres and it is at this latitude on the Earth that the pyramids are located. The energy being received from the Sun at these latitudes must now be phenomenal.

link here
Posted by muck4doo 2004-07-12 8:48:14 PM|| [http://meatismurder.blogspot.com/]  2004-07-12 8:48:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#26 Come on over to the hills of East Tennessee, Mucky. I will have just turned 60 so we'll open some homebrew and watch the fireworks.
Posted by Deacon Blues  2004-07-12 9:35:12 PM||   2004-07-12 9:35:12 PM|| Front Page Top

#27 Oh, yeah. Every time we launch a space vehicle the Earth's rotation slows down. In a couple of billion years this effect will have slowed the Earth's rotation by a few minutes.
Posted by Deacon Blues  2004-07-12 9:38:08 PM||   2004-07-12 9:38:08 PM|| Front Page Top

#28 Naughty, naughty, muck4doo. You left out a choice nugget from Braden's pseudoscientific extravaganza. To wit:

"The opportunity to more easily change the patterns that can determine how and why we love, fear, judge, feel, need, and hurt." says Braden. "Dense magnetics lock in emotional and mental patterns from generation to generation in the morphogenetic field. With lesser magnetic fields, this seems to ease up, allowing easier access to higher states, as the cells of our body tune to,and try to match, Earth's rising base frequency like tuning forks, thereby raising our own."

Treating that little gem as a fact requires far greater amounts of induction than generating the earth's own magnetic field.
Posted by Zenster 2004-07-12 10:13:37 PM||   2004-07-12 10:13:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#29 A tin foil hat powered by plutonium oxide batteries has been shown to completely counteract this phenomenon.
Posted by ed 2004-07-12 10:14:24 PM||   2004-07-12 10:14:24 PM|| Front Page Top

#30 "In a couple of billion years this effect will have slowed the Earth's rotation by a few minutes."

That's easy to fix, Deacon; start launching them the other way.
Posted by Carl in N.H.  2004-07-12 10:16:19 PM||   2004-07-12 10:16:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#31 Not to worry, people, the earth is just going in for its regular degaussing. Like ships. No worries....
Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-07-12 10:17:33 PM||   2004-07-12 10:17:33 PM|| Front Page Top

#32 If this makes NYT page 1, I'm not even going to drop in for a glance at their headlines anymore to see how they're slanting things.
Posted by Tom 2004-07-12 10:29:10 PM||   2004-07-12 10:29:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#33 Muck, a lot of the physics in the material you're relaying is nothing but a bunch of poleshit.

"Earth Changes" beliefs are the new-age movement's equivalent to the rapture, and seems to me to combine facts and half-truths like the variation in the Earth's magnetic field with the idea that the Earth's axis of rotation shifts (in a matter different from normal precession) over very short periods of time. Leaving aside the fact that this involves enough energy flying around to melt the lithosphere, leaving the Earth's surface a sea of molten lava.

Anyway, if you want to read some criticism of the sorts of catastrophism peddled by the likes of Icke and other so-called anxiety pimps, I would suggest the following link (which is a smorgasborg of information and other links):

http://www.planet-x.150m.com/

You probably want to look at, in particular:

http://www.planet-x.150m.com/nopoleshift.html,

http://www.planet-x.150m.com/stopspin.html,

and,

http://www.planet-x.150m.com/changeaxis.html.

This isn't to mean there aren't unknown objects out there in the solar system. It's just that there's better places to learn about them than the pseudoscientific catastrophe/conspiracy mongers.

Drop me a line if you want to know more.
Posted by Phil Fraering 2004-07-12 11:35:41 PM|| [http://newsfromthefridge.typepad.com]  2004-07-12 11:35:41 PM|| Front Page Top

#34 While I'm at it, I'd also like to suggest the website Bad Astronomy.
Posted by Phil Fraering 2004-07-12 11:38:18 PM|| [http://newsfromthefridge.typepad.com]  2004-07-12 11:38:18 PM|| Front Page Top

#35 Any chance that muck4doo listed to Art Bell's radio show at some point in time before 2000? :)
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-07-12 11:48:27 PM||   2004-07-12 11:48:27 PM|| Front Page Top

#36 Well, if he did, the longer he listened to it, the more skeptical he might become; they or their guests have made so many bad predictions over the years...

(Plus, they spend too much time slandering the lizardoids... kinda makes me wonder what Charles Johnson ever did to them).
Posted by Phil Fraering 2004-07-13 12:31:23 AM|| [http://newsfromthefridge.typepad.com]  2004-07-13 12:31:23 AM|| Front Page Top

#37 Mucky,
And Antiwar believes that you are her friend, too! You've got that deadpan delivery down pat. Well done, sir, well done.
Posted by trailing wife 2004-07-13 12:44:27 AM||   2004-07-13 12:44:27 AM|| Front Page Top

#38 thanks for links phil. i am find them intrasting indeedy. ima almost done that icke book and i am thinking i am throw it away when done. he in poluting my thinking. :(
Posted by muck4doo 2004-07-13 9:46:55 AM|| [http://meatismurder.blogspot.com/]  2004-07-13 9:46:55 AM|| Front Page Top

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