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2022-06-18 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Putin lambasts the West and declares the end of 'the era of the unipolar world'
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Posted by Fred 2022-06-18 00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views ]  Top
 File under: Tin Hat Dictators, Presidents for Life, & Kleptocrats 

#1 He's correct. This is the end of an era. American hegemony is finished - Trump was its last hurrah.

W, Obama and Biden conspired to bury American strength and leadership with their stupid overseas wars, their domestic culture wars and their incompetent, disastrous economic policies.

Don't blame Putin. America did this to itself.
Posted by Romulet 2022-06-18 00:27||   2022-06-18 00:27|| Front Page Top

#2 The link doesn't work. Use this to hear the sketch with simultaneous translation:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=elt-bfwkWuo

Note that there is no "shaking" of hands, no ranting, no vulgar expressions as per the bullshit, lies and disinformation printed recently in the US and UK press.

Wherever one stands and whatever one thinks of Putin, this is an extremely important speech that demands close attention and consideration.
Posted by Romulet 2022-06-18 00:34||   2022-06-18 00:34|| Front Page Top

#3 The link doesn't work.

Fixed.
Posted by badanov 2022-06-18 00:37||   2022-06-18 00:37|| Front Page Top

#4 Not everyone found the speech inspiring.
Posted by Thumper Elmitle4600 2022-06-18 00:51||   2022-06-18 00:51|| Front Page Top

#5 The end of the unipolar world is a good thing.

It is not America's role to dominate the world, invading country after country as we have done so many times since the 1890s. Neither is it our role to be world police. Every empire that tried this went bankrupt from the expense. Let's try a revolutionary idea: spend our money on our people and make a nice country. It's a crazy idea but it might just work.
Posted by Pholing Crererong6639 2022-06-18 01:04||   2022-06-18 01:04|| Front Page Top

#6 More interesting than this shit for brains, any day
Posted by Leif Ericsson 2022-06-18 01:05||   2022-06-18 01:05|| Front Page Top

#7 I'd personally be fine with the US being more like Switzerland. Not the biggest or toughest, but the freest and most financially stable.
Posted by M. Murcek 2022-06-18 05:12||   2022-06-18 05:12|| Front Page Top

#8 /\ Yes, but what then becomes of 'K-Street' and the Military Industrial Complex (MIC), the high-paid shi*disturbers at the State Department and our 'Klingon master' regime change crowd.

Not a lot of money in cheese, chocolate, and banking.

[sarc off]


Posted by Besoeker 2022-06-18 06:19||   2022-06-18 06:19|| Front Page Top

#9 US being more like Switzerland. Not the biggest or toughest, but the freest and most financially stable

Switzerland's gun ownership is similar to America's -- but the Swiss murder rate is a tiny fraction of America's. Can you guess why?

Switzerland's technology and economy are similar to America's -- but average Swiss math achievement scores are higher. Swiss average savings are higher. Swiss cities are cleaner and safer. The Swiss enjoy greater freedom with more order. Why do you think that is?

Here's a thought. American achievement in every realm, from education to public safety to public finance to freedom and prosperity, is degraded by a violent, dysfunctional and mentally deficient sub-demographic that simply does not exist in Switzerland.

This dysfunctional minority is championed another, even smaller minority that is extremely successful and well-educated and that is obsessed with intervening abroad in defense of "freedom." This tendency does not exist in Switzerland.

Ergo there seems to be a strong connection between certain America's willingness to grovel before its own left-wing race Marxists and those same Americans' eager support for serial overseas military adventures in countries that have nothing to do with American freedom or security.

Aside from these two groups, America could probably be very much like Switzerland. A natural fortress provided by two oceans acting like the Alps, a well-armed freedom-loving yeoman population, longstanding self-government and strong traditions of federalism, self-reliance and individual rights.

But you have to somehow curb the influence of America's race Marxists and the elites who love them so.
Posted by Clock Glating4322 2022-06-18 06:24||   2022-06-18 06:24|| Front Page Top

#10 I didn't say we would not have to flush some outfits' punch bowls.
Posted by M. Murcek 2022-06-18 06:24||   2022-06-18 06:24|| Front Page Top

#11 #9, we tried to make a situation where everyone could thrive. Some peoples' idea of flourishing is not like the majority's.
Posted by M. Murcek 2022-06-18 06:27||   2022-06-18 06:27|| Front Page Top

#12 But you have to somehow curb the influence of America's race Marxists and the elites who love them so.

'Race Marxism' is a "non causa." It is simply a tool or vehicle used to gain power. It has little if anything to do with the actual beliefs of those carrying the signs and banners.
Posted by Besoeker 2022-06-18 06:33||   2022-06-18 06:33|| Front Page Top

#13 Impossible with your post-1965 immigration policies. You'd also have to get control of your southern border, get rid of your black population and completely change the leadership of your newsmedia, entertainment and elite educational institutions.
Posted by Clock Glating4322 2022-06-18 06:33||   2022-06-18 06:33|| Front Page Top

#14 Master race and lebensraum. All stuff we'd expect "de-nazification" experts to espouse.
Posted by M. Murcek 2022-06-18 06:40||   2022-06-18 06:40|| Front Page Top

#15 /\ Precisely what happened not so many years ago in a place called Rhodesia. Those sent packing were a different race however. Colonialism and tribalism appear to be in eternal conflict.

(Tribalism is an original and more pure form of communism)
Posted by Besoeker 2022-06-18 06:40||   2022-06-18 06:40|| Front Page Top

#16 I mean to say that, before the late 1940s civil rights push by northern whites and Jewish media and intellectual figures, there was very little public support for aggressive US military interventions outside of the Western Hemisphere. There's a strong connection between the racial "diversity" creed and US interventionism.

Most Americans have no interest in the Middle East or Asia and not much interest in Europe either. It was East Coast liberal elites like the New York Times editors who pushed Americans out of a natural Swiss-style isolationist mindset. They did so by pushing the new and very alien ideas about "democracy promotion."

After WWII, the old Protestant Progressive "civil religion" (per Walter McDougall) was pushed aside and replaced by Jews and liberal Catholics such as the Kennedys who added a new obsession with protecting racial minority rights and intervening in the Middle East to protect Israel. Neoconservatism had its origins in these two non-Protestant left-leaning urban groups. All the neoconservatives were either Jewish or Catholic.

Beginning in the early 1960s with Kennedy's inaugural speech, very foreign conflict became framed as a foreign version of the civil rights movement, struggle of "freedom" vs totalitarian oppression that would inevitably lead toward another Holocaust. Complexity was ignored. American national security was conflated with a global civil rights crusade. Somehow it became a vital interest for America to protect peasants in Indochina, Muslim tribesmen in Mesopotamia, Jews in Palestine.

If not for these influence of Catholics like the Kennedys and Jews like Max Fisher and powerful media and entertainment tycoons like the Sulzbergers, it's unlikely that the US would have been embroiled in Vietnam's civil war or the middle east's endless conflicts.

Switzerland doesn't have neoconservatives. It's totally alien to the Swiss mind.,
Posted by Clock Glating4322 2022-06-18 07:05||   2022-06-18 07:05|| Front Page Top

#17 ^ "Catholics and Jews did it." Pat Buchanan blushes.
Posted by M. Murcek 2022-06-18 07:08||   2022-06-18 07:08|| Front Page Top

#18 14 Master race and lebensraum. All stuff we'd expect "de-nazification" experts to espouse.

You should put away the liquor. We're talking about Switzerland, a diverse non-expansionist, totally defensive small country that easily combines multiple cultures and languages. You're confusing Switzerland with its northern neighbor. Maybe you should open a map?
Posted by Clock Glating4322 2022-06-18 07:09||   2022-06-18 07:09|| Front Page Top

#19 /\ American national security was conflated with a global civil rights crusade.

There can be little doubt regarding this observation.
Posted by Besoeker 2022-06-18 07:14||   2022-06-18 07:14|| Front Page Top

#20 Pat Buchanan

Wrong again. Buchanan is very close to the Swiss mentality. Someone scrambled your playbook. Buchanan is the neoconservatives' worst enemy.

The Catholic neoconservatives included people like Jeanie Kirkpatrick, Daniel Moynihan and the pre-2004 William F Buckley.

During the Nixon administration, Moynihan's pro-Israel bent was so wildly exaggerated that Henry Kissinger had to shut him up during one White House Mideast policy meeting by saying, "This isn't a synagogue."
Posted by Clock Glating4322 2022-06-18 07:18||   2022-06-18 07:18|| Front Page Top

#21 Robert Kennedy probably would have become a neoconservative. Another global civil rights & pro-Israel crusader.
Posted by Clock Glating4322 2022-06-18 07:22||   2022-06-18 07:22|| Front Page Top

#22 /\ Henry Kissinger had to shut him up during one White House Mideast policy meeting by saying, "This isn't a synagogue."

Both frequently operated outside the traditional Mishna. Unfortunately, many still do. It's a product of 'beltway' thinking.



Posted by Besoeker 2022-06-18 07:26||   2022-06-18 07:26|| Front Page Top

#23 @Besoeker
I don't follow you. Your Jewish "Misha" represents what...
neoconservatism? Which one are you saying represents 'beltway thinking' -- Moynihan?

Or do you mean Kissinger... he wasn't a neoconservative and never terribly friendly toward Israel.
Posted by Clock Glating4322 2022-06-18 07:38||   2022-06-18 07:38|| Front Page Top

#24 /\ Excellent question. Point is, traditional Jewish thinking and debate have become too far removed from their original geo-origins. Kissinger was correct, "it's not a synagogue"... therein lies the problem.
Posted by Besoeker 2022-06-18 07:47||   2022-06-18 07:47|| Front Page Top

#25 We have a winner!

Synagogue = "closer to Heaven." Not a synagogue = "further from Heaven."

If your mileage varies, well, that's on you, not me...
Posted by M. Murcek 2022-06-18 07:54||   2022-06-18 07:54|| Front Page Top

#26 I don't know much about the origins of Jewish thinking and debate but the ideas and instincts of America's founders and the following generation of American leaders were in synch with Swiss republican views. Federalism and self-government, limits on centralized authority, a fierce desire to be insulated from the rest of the world's warring and intrigues, and a rationalist outlook shaped by a Protestant work ethic.

That still describes Switzerland. In America that got chucked aside in the second half of the 20th century. Maybe America can recover it before the second half of the 21st century.
Posted by Clock Glating4322 2022-06-18 08:02||   2022-06-18 08:02|| Front Page Top

#27 ^ Or maybe not. I love America and would like to see that. I love Freedom more, and if America has to be abandoned while Freedom flourishes elsewhere, so be it. Ever was it thus.
Posted by M. Murcek 2022-06-18 08:04||   2022-06-18 08:04|| Front Page Top

#28 Yes but Switzerland won't let you in. Britain's woke. Canada and Oz have gone fascist.

Maybe you can go to Hungary.
Posted by Clock Glating4322 2022-06-18 08:06||   2022-06-18 08:06|| Front Page Top

#29 Such a narrow perspective.
Posted by M. Murcek 2022-06-18 08:07||   2022-06-18 08:07|| Front Page Top

#30 Billionaires seem to prefer Uruguay. Or (if you do the yella) Singapore. Malta? Dubai?
Posted by Thatle Panda3023 2022-06-18 08:11||   2022-06-18 08:11|| Front Page Top

#31 29 Such a narrow perspective.

Tell us more. Expand our horizons. Are you thinking of one of them offshore seastead thingies located outside territorial waters? A biodome in Antarctica?
Posted by Thatle Panda3023 2022-06-18 08:17||   2022-06-18 08:17|| Front Page Top

#32 The notion that a place that's not particularly free now might become more so later is... limited.
Posted by M. Murcek 2022-06-18 08:18||   2022-06-18 08:18|| Front Page Top

#33 ^ Tell that to the East Europeans who grew up before 1989.
Posted by Clock Glating4322 2022-06-18 08:21||   2022-06-18 08:21|| Front Page Top

#34 Sorry, I meant to say "might not."
Posted by M. Murcek 2022-06-18 08:24||   2022-06-18 08:24|| Front Page Top

#35 I'd be happy to be the shining beacon on a hill that leads in tech and products people want. that other nations attempt to emulate and bend over backwards to placate rather than be cut off.

Sort of like the Foundation (books, I've not see the tv).
Posted by ruprecht 2022-06-18 10:29||   2022-06-18 10:29|| Front Page Top

#36 Fun fact. The "new guys" like seeding the idea of an American war of all-against-all into their posts: Black against White, Jew against Christian, Protestants against Catholics, Immigrants against Native Born. But who does that actually help? Certainly not my family or community!
Posted by Secret Master  2022-06-18 11:43||   2022-06-18 11:43|| Front Page Top

#37 ^ Yep!
Posted by Frank G 2022-06-18 11:54||   2022-06-18 11:54|| Front Page Top

#38 ^ The trick is to make a Russian invasion of a neighboring country all about America. When America invades a country, that is naked American aggression. When Russia invades a country, that also is naked American aggression.
Posted by Matt 2022-06-18 12:31||   2022-06-18 12:31|| Front Page Top

#39 Old Wisdom has value, taken fro, American Thinker in part:

"In The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, Edward Gibbon ruminated on the "latent causes of decay and corruption" in Rome. He noted the introduction by the ruling elites of "a slow and secret poison into the vitals of the empire." "The minds of men were gradually reduced," he wrote, and "the fire of genius was extinguished, and even the military spirit evaporated." The corrosive effects on the citizenry manifested themselves in the collapse of "public courage" and the diminished "love of independence" and "sense of national honor." "A cloud of critics, of compilers, of commentators," Gibbon lamented, "darkened the face of learning, and the decline of genius was soon followed by the corruption of taste." A "degeneracy" set in among the Roman elites and spread to the citizens, which "debased their sentiments, enervated their courage, and depressed their talents." The result, Gibbon wrote, was that Rome was "peopled by a race of pygmies" when the barbarians from the north swept in to conquer.

America's elite class is leading us down the path of Rome. Hopefully, it's not too late to change course.

Link
Posted by NoMoreBS 2022-06-18 13:06||   2022-06-18 13:06|| Front Page Top

#40 Obama administration NSC official and leading Democratic Party foreign policy expert Charles Kupchan calls for negotiations to end the war in Ukraine today in Politico.com

Negotiating to End the War In Ukraine Isn't Appeasement

Washington has not only a right to discuss war aims with Kyiv, but also an obligation. This conflict arguably represents the most dangerous geopolitical moment since the Cuban missile crisis.

A hot war is raging between a nuclear-armed Russia and a NATO-armed Ukraine, with NATO territory abutting the conflict zone. This war could define the strategic and economic contours of the 21st century, possibly opening an era of militarized rivalry between the world’s liberal democracies and an autocratic bloc anchored by Russia and China.

These stakes necessitate direct U.S. engagement in determining when and how this war ends. Instead of offering arms with no strings attached — effectively leaving strategy up to the Ukrainians — Washington needs to launch a forthright discussion about war termination with allies, with Kyiv, and ultimately, with Moscow.
Posted by Oye Como Va 2022-06-18 13:29||   2022-06-18 13:29|| Front Page Top

#41 Impossible with your post-1965 immigration policies. You'd also have to get control of your southern border, get rid of your black population and completely change the leadership of your newsmedia, entertainment and elite educational institutions.

IOW, we're screwed.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2022-06-18 14:14||   2022-06-18 14:14|| Front Page Top

#42 If not for these influence of Catholics like the Kennedys and Jews like Max Fisher and powerful media and entertainment tycoons like the Sulzbergers, it's unlikely that the US would have been embroiled in Vietnam's civil war or the middle east's endless conflicts.

There is precious little evidence that JFK was on board with the US intervention in Vietnam and some speculation that he was assassinated to make way for LBJ, a white Protestant, to go ahead with it. Can't blame the Vietnam War on Jews and Catholics. It was Johnson's war.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2022-06-18 14:29||   2022-06-18 14:29|| Front Page Top

#43 Well, it was under Kennedy's 'reign' that Diem was assasinated, for some reason or another having to do with the war that Kennedy was supposedly not concerned with. Not that this had anything to do with Kennedy's judaism or catholicism or whatever....
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2022-06-18 17:29||   2022-06-18 17:29|| Front Page Top

#44 Yes, and the deep state that shoehorned Kennedy into and out of the White House was a precursor of the one that has given us "the big guy..."
Posted by M. Murcek 2022-06-18 17:32||   2022-06-18 17:32|| Front Page Top

#45 "Come on, guys. It's just some military advisors. It's not like we're getting in a war."
-- famous last words
Posted by SteveS 2022-06-18 18:01||   2022-06-18 18:01|| Front Page Top

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