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2005-06-17 Afghanistan/South Asia
Detailed account of how the Kashmir Jihad started
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Posted by Omoluger Ebbatle8086 2005-06-17 00:29|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1  That's you, right Paul?

I thought the Hizb ul-Mujahideen were popular with the ISI because they're the only jihadi group that is made up, well, largely of Kashmiris. So was the shift towards them really a case of moving away from a Kashmiri insurgency towards a multi-national Islamist movement or did that come later?
Posted by Dan Darling">Dan Darling  2005-06-17 10:44|| http://www.regnumcrucis.blogspot.com]">[http://www.regnumcrucis.blogspot.com]  2005-06-17 10:44|| Front Page Top

#2 Dear Dan, Not sure if the relationship between the HM and ISI made this a pan-Muslim insurrection but I do know that ISI has established several Terror groups including the HUJI, LET and Badr outfits. I also read there are some internecine clashes between these groups as well as Fedayeen attacks on Indian SF. The ISI also supports NE Indian rebel groups in Assam, Tripura and Nagaland. Pakland is a problem and the whole nuke thing gives me the willies. Need to get chummy with India.
Posted by Rightwing 2005-06-17 12:41||   2005-06-17 12:41|| Front Page Top

#3 Yeah Dan, that was me.

The JKLF was a secular liberation movement, the Hezb on the otherhad was set up by the Jamaat-e-Islami. They are less fanatical than the pan-Islamists that came later, but the Hezb fought in favour of annexation to Pakistan, rather than independence, and they argued this with the typical Islamist argument that there should be less Muslim countries rather than more.
Posted by Paul Moloney 2005-06-17 18:12||   2005-06-17 18:12|| Front Page Top

#4 typical Islamist argument that there should be less Muslim countries rather than more.

whaaaaaat? We agree on something?
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2005-06-17 19:32||   2005-06-17 19:32|| Front Page Top

#5 So the ISI started it all.
The claims that Indian rigging of elections in 1988 led to an uprising by Kashmiris that was later used by Pakistan is false.
It was never a nationalist struggle. It was jihad, using the Afghan jihad as a template.



Posted by john 2005-06-17 20:22||   2005-06-17 20:22|| Front Page Top

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