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2023-06-04 -Short Attention Span Theater-

How the British Caused the American Civil War

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Posted by Besoeker 2023-06-04 06:59|| || Front Page|| [4 views ] Top

#1 Where does one begin with all of this? Britain's policy during the conflict was divided and fluctuating. The British supplied ships to the union navy too. The Union army was at its height about a million men, and the confederacy about 500,000 men. Are 11,000 British troops going to make much difference? The British had already abolished slavery many years earlier. I doubt the Canadians would have been keen to fight for slavery nor on starting a war against America. Britain recognized the Union’s blockade as legitimate.

Posted by Bertie Platypus5920 2023-06-04 08:22|| 2023-06-04 08:22|| Front Page Top

#2 Guess ya gotta start somewhere.

Not sure how much say the Dominion of Canada would have had if the British had pushed the envelope.

It was nice reading that the Brits were getting a taste of their own medicine and being double-crossed by imperial Russia.

Posted by DooDahMan 2023-06-04 09:52|| 2023-06-04 09:52|| Front Page Top

#3 This French political cartoon from 1898 came to mind:

Posted by DooDahMan 2023-06-04 09:59|| 2023-06-04 09:59|| Front Page Top

#4 Are 11,000 British troops going to make much difference?

Pentagon sending troops to train Peruvian coup regime’s killers

Posted by Skidmark 2023-06-04 10:13|| 2023-06-04 10:13|| Front Page Top

#5
#4 Are 11,000 British troops going to make much difference?

Pentagon sending troops to train Peruvian coup regime’s killers

The French had a few thousand men in Mexico at the same time, they then reinforced their troops with 30,000 men under General Élie Frédéric Forey and captured Mexico City in 1863. They installed Maximilian I as the emperor of the Second Mexican Empire, a puppet state of France. The French intervention ended in 1867, when the Mexican republicans led by Benito Juárez recaptured Mexico City and executed Maximilian. The French withdrew their remaining forces from Mexico by March 1867. Those 11,000 Brits are facing a much more powerful force.

Posted by Bertie Platypus5920 2023-06-04 11:02|| 2023-06-04 11:02|| Front Page Top

#6 The 'Alabama incident' is interesting. The Brits built and basically manned the CSA raider. Raiders were so effective against the American whaling fleets that they re-registered as British for protection and would stay so long after the war. The Alabama itself was sunk by the USS Kearsarge at the Battle of Cherbourg. The US sued the UK for damages in the international court. The UK told them to basically pound sand. That is till war fever between the UK and France started to heat up. The Americans said if you don't establish a precedent then we'll play the same game of offering the French ships. Deal was made.

Posted by Procopius2k 2023-06-04 11:22|| 2023-06-04 11:22|| Front Page Top

#7 I have a relative who was a Captain in the 13th Regiment, Tennessee Volunteer Cavalry. I have their history written by the officers after the war. They were in South Carolina when the war ended and came back to Tennessee through North Carolina by way of Hot Springs. They were held for 4 months and were scheduled to be sent to Texas because Maximillian ! was threatening to invade Texas. He thought the U.S. army was week after the war. Lots of French and English intrigue.

Posted by Deacon Blues 2023-06-04 11:55|| 2023-06-04 11:55|| Front Page Top

#8 Interesting anecdote, DB.

It seems rather counterintuitive that the French were so interested in México, including the bit about the history of "Cinco de Mayo".

Posted by DooDahMan 2023-06-04 12:19|| 2023-06-04 12:19|| Front Page Top

#9 Wikipedia: Maximilian I of Mexico

Posted by trailing wife 2023-06-04 15:22|| 2023-06-04 15:22|| Front Page Top

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