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2007-06-28 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by BigEd 2007-06-28 11:57|| || Front Page|| [11140 views ] Top

#1 The Above, of course, refers to the Immigration Bill...

Harry ain't happy!

Posted by BigEd 2007-06-28 12:02|| 2007-06-28 12:02|| Front Page Top

#2 Now cut off its head and stake its heart. No, wait, that's for vampires or something. this is more like a zombie.

Posted by Whiskey Mike 2007-06-28 12:03|| 2007-06-28 12:03|| Front Page Top

#3 Same to ya, Harry...

Posted by tu3031 2007-06-28 12:12|| 2007-06-28 12:12|| Front Page Top

#4 Of the people, by the people, and for the people.

Posted by wxjames 2007-06-28 12:15|| 2007-06-28 12:15|| Front Page Top

#5 Well done, CITIZENS.

When you hear or are told you're a racist, bigoted, hateful nationalistic moron for favoring border security, the rule of law, and US sovereignty... just smile at the accuser.

Posted by Mark Z">Mark Z 2007-06-28 12:37|| 2007-06-28 12:37|| Front Page Top

#6 I'm a little confused. Lesee ...is Teddy Kennedy on the list? No? That means we won!

Posted by Bobby 2007-06-28 12:45|| 2007-06-28 12:45|| Front Page Top

#7 Bobby, I was also confused as to what the vote meant. So I looked for Reid's name. Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy!

Posted by ed 2007-06-28 12:48|| 2007-06-28 12:48|| Front Page Top

#8 Can we set it on fire now?

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2007-06-28 12:50|| 2007-06-28 12:50|| Front Page Top

#9 #8 Can we set it on fire now?

Like any bad remake from Hollyweird, be sure that it will be back in some form or another, sooner or later.

Use the ~~Quislings~~ Donks & Co. own arguments back at them to justify annexing Mexico - no paperwork, no fence, instant citizenship. What's there they don't want already? Commonwealth status like Puerto Rico with mandatory plebiscites every ten years for independence, continued commonwealth status, or integration. Make the ~~rectal orifices~~ pols in Mexico City sweat about the security of their northern border. Turn about is fair play. Take particular notice that the Euro blooded Mexicans are not the ones being dumped across the border, just the mestizos and indios as the 'white' Mexicans keep their hands on power. You'd think the Donks would be sensitive to that - Huh!

Posted by Procopius2k 2007-06-28 13:05|| 2007-06-28 13:05|| Front Page Top

#10 Hey, Harry! Stick one in you butt and one in your mouth and rotate every five minutes.

Posted by SR-71 2007-06-28 13:06|| 2007-06-28 13:06|| Front Page Top

#11 This is really an historic moment. The American people just defeated the leader of the Democrats, the Republicans and the President all at the same time. I'm no historian but I do know this must be a very rare event.

I just love the way the left reports this:

"Liberals felt it did not go far enough in protecting illegal immigrants, while conservatives rejected the bill because they felt it would grant amnesty to the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in the country."

As if liberals had anything to do with the defeat of this bill. This was conservative America uniting. Period. The media jackasses are too smug to even admit their side got their asses handed to them.

Posted by Intrinsicpilot 2007-06-28 13:08|| 2007-06-28 13:08|| Front Page Top

#12 The solution isn't real complicated:

1. Secure the borders. How secure? Well, how many terrorists do you want to let in each year?

2. Set up a guest worker program primarily for seasonal labor. Not a guest family program. And cut the bull about non-seasonal jobs that "Americans won't do." Just let the markets fix that with appropriate wages.

3. Stick to our quota system. What is the quota for Mexico? Clearly the individuals in the guest worker program could get in line for citizenship, but not jump the line.

Posted by KBK 2007-06-28 13:19|| 2007-06-28 13:19|| Front Page Top

#13 Intrinsicpilot

I'd like to point out that there are 15 Dems in the Nay column, including Byrd. I wonder how much they're going to pay for going against Kennedy, Reid & Co.

Posted by Glusoting the Obscure1783 2007-06-28 13:21|| 2007-06-28 13:21|| Front Page Top

#14 Don't try to sell me any crap about the 15 Dems that voted Nay. They all did it (except for Byrd) because of angry calls from CONSERVATIVES. These are the close (vulnerable) seats. A mobilized conservative base could sink any of these guys in the next election.

Posted by Intrinsicpilot 2007-06-28 13:36|| 2007-06-28 13:36|| Front Page Top

#15 Liberals felt it did not go far enough in protecting illegal immigrants

That's true. I also don't think we go far enough in protecting bank robbers. Or car thieves. Or arsonists. Or hit men.
Get to work on that, liberals...

Posted by tu3031 2007-06-28 13:46|| 2007-06-28 13:46|| Front Page Top

#16 IP

Don't get your undies in a bunch. I am and always have been a staunch Republican and I was right in there with you putting pressure on my Senators to kill this thing. My two R Senators decided between them that they would split their votes effectively cancelling each other. Ratbastards. Anyway, Reid has said this bill is going to come back and you can bet that alot of pressure will be brought to bear on those 15 Dems I mentioned. We must stay vigilant, this is not going away.

Posted by Glusoting the Obscure1783 2007-06-28 13:51|| 2007-06-28 13:51|| Front Page Top

#17 Maybe I should try decaf. :>)

Posted by Intrinsicpilot 2007-06-28 14:06|| 2007-06-28 14:06|| Front Page Top

#18 How many of them Dems are "newbies" -- the so-called Blue Dog Dems that just got elected? Who came from previous "conservative" states -- like Webb from Virginia? (The WaPo won that election for him)

Posted by Sherry 2007-06-28 14:07|| 2007-06-28 14:07|| Front Page Top

#19 I wrote both my Senators from MI (Stabenow-D & Levin-D). Stabenow's office responded same day that she WOULD NOT SUPPORT THE BILL. I was surprised and happy by this. Looks like the local union's were giving her hell about illegals undercutting jobs, etc. I also must give her a modicum of respect because no matter what my view on an issue her office always replies w/in a couple days to emails. As for Levin, he's a p.o.s. - his office never responds to my letters (which are always courteous and sent via www.congress.org). It's no surprise he vote yea. I can't wait to that clown is out of office. Hopefully this next go around will be the yr.

Posted by Broadhead6 2007-06-28 14:26|| 2007-06-28 14:26|| Front Page Top

#20 Webb of Virginia is a Freshman.
So is Tester of Montana.
McCaskill is in her first term, but I want to say she came in during '04 rather than '06. I could be off there, though.

Posted by eLarson 2007-06-28 14:40|| http://larsonian.blogspot.com]">[http://larsonian.blogspot.com] 2007-06-28 14:40|| Front Page Top

#21 Even the MSM is taking up the metaphor of the vampire who will not die:

The Senate drove a stake Thursday through President Bush's plan to legalize millions of unlawful immigrants

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2007-06-28 15:29|| 2007-06-28 15:29|| Front Page Top

#22 "Legal immigration is one of the top concerns of the American people, and Congress' failure to act on it is a disappointment," Bush said after an appearance in Newport, R.I.

No, Jorge. ILLEGAL immigration is one of the top concerns of the American people.
They really think we're friggin idiots out here, don't they?

Posted by tu3031 2007-06-28 15:40|| 2007-06-28 15:40|| Front Page Top

#23 I never bothered to contact Feinstein or Boxer, both of them D-CA. I would have if I thought it would make any difference but I knew what they would do and that nothing would change them. I vote against them every time they come up for reelection but they are so well entrenched that it's just a token protest vote. The RNC has written California off as a lost cause. I doubt seriously that the RNC allocates any funds to help Republicans run against either Feinstein or Boxer. Last Novemember I never even heard who was running against Feinstein until I read the official state voter's pamphlet and found there was a guy named Dick Mountjoy who wanted to secure the border and was against amnesty. He was like a stealth candidate because nobody even knew he was running or who he was. I doubt that he ever got a dime from the RNC or any of the usual fat cats. The only hope is for Arnold to term out as governator and run for senate. I think he could beat the crap out of Boxer and I would love to see it.

It's pretty damned foolish to write off the state with the most Electoral College votes but Bush refused to campaign against illegal immigration which was the one issue that might have helped him carry the state. I don't think he even campaigned here in 2000 or 2004. By 2004 I was so fed up with him that I only voted to keep Teresa Heinz-Kerry out of the White House and off of my TV because she is so damned ugly. To hell with Iraq. Illegal immigrants and the porous border are a much bigger threat to my security. Republicans better wise up about this problem or else we'll all end up with Hillary in 2008. They could win California if they would just put up a candidate who declares himself against amnesty. They are guaranteed NOT to win with Giuliani, McCain or Romney. The outrage against this bill should demonstrate to Republicans that they can win the White House in 2008 in a landslide if they would listen to the people instead of the fat cats who exploit slave labor from Mexico. Sometimes you just have to cut your losses and now even the fat cats might be thinking that way. One can only hope.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2007-06-28 15:46|| 2007-06-28 15:46|| Front Page Top

#24 It's been a long time since conservatives acted like conservatives. Bush may have forgotten his base (you know, us bigoted, xeonphobic, knee-jerk reactionary, fear-mongering, racist fools who have the audacity to believe that the US is a sovereign nation with a God-given right to control it's borders and uphold the rule of law) but thank heavens there are still a few who haven't. Well done, Repubs. Thank you Jeff Sessions. Thank you to my Sen. John Cornyn as well.

Posted by mcsegeek1 2007-06-28 16:20|| 2007-06-28 16:20|| Front Page Top

#25 They really think we're friggin idiots out here, don't they?

tu3031, not since the Nixon administration has America had leadership so contemptuous of its own electorate. This country desperately needs a coherent third party to absorb so much voter discontent and start choking off incumbent support.

The outrage against this bill should demonstrate to Republicans that they can win the White House in 2008 in a landslide if they would listen to the people instead of the fat cats who exploit slave labor from Mexico.

This is why we need to enact spending limits or restrictive federal financing of political campaigns, EU6305. Our politicians are bought and sold by their campaign contributors. This shit has gotta end. Individual American citizens are being sold down the river by special interests. Just look at government inaction over China if you have any doubts.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-06-28 16:42|| 2007-06-28 16:42|| Front Page Top

#26 I don't think it is a left vs. right issue, rather an eliteist vs. patriot issue.
Some donks and some trunks are elite. They are above us and of the master class.
We need to make sure in the next 6 years that NONE of the 45 who supported the bill get reelected.
By the way, is there anyone from Massachucetts out there ? ......Hello ?

Posted by wxjames 2007-06-28 16:46|| 2007-06-28 16:46|| Front Page Top

#27 Format Washington D.C. now!!

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2007-06-28 16:47|| 2007-06-28 16:47|| Front Page Top

#28 The President has dissapointed me beyond words w/this immigration/amnesty shenannigans. Time to follow the money trail. He's not the Gov of TX anymore, so why the hell does he care about this so much vice actually putting a wall/fence up which the majority of Americans really do want?

Posted by Broadhead6 2007-06-28 17:12|| 2007-06-28 17:12|| Front Page Top

#29 I suspect that Texas may have had a more benign experience with Mexican immigration than the more aggressively "moral relativist" parts of the country, like California and its assorted mini-mes in the intermountain region, that have been so staunchly hostile towards teaching lower-income students stuff like reading and the like (in ANY language).

Posted by Abdominal Snowman 2007-06-28 17:28|| 2007-06-28 17:28|| Front Page Top

#30 I don't think it is a left vs. right issue, rather an eliteist vs. patriot issue.

Bingo!

See where Congress voted themselves another raise. Next thing you know they will try to shut off the internet. They are trying to resurrect the "Fairness Doctrine" to control talk radio.

Posted by JohnQC 2007-06-28 17:34|| 2007-06-28 17:34|| Front Page Top

#31 so why the hell does he care about this so much

Republicans are bought and sold by big business. If you have any doubts, just read what Common Cause has to say regarding Bush's campaign fund raising:

Common Cause is watching.

Not only are we watching what the President is raising for the 2004 election, but we also have watched to see how his big fundraisers - the Pioneers - prospered from their investment in the 2000 campaign. Have the last few years been kind to the Bush fundraisers?

The answer is a resounding "Yes."

Just Watch and see how successful Pioneers have been influencing Bush Administration policies. The profiles included here demonstrate how money in politics works at the highest level of government. In each case, the Pioneer has helped Bush win election and Bush Administration policies have benefited the Pioneer - in many cases, at the expense of the public interest.
[emphasis added]

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-06-28 17:37|| 2007-06-28 17:37|| Front Page Top

#32 These folks might want to keep a low profile during their July vacation.

Bennett (R-UT), Yea
Graham (R-SC), Yea
Gregg (R-NH), Yea
Hagel (R-NE), Yea
Kyl (R-AZ), Yea
Lott (R-MS), Yea
Lugar (R-IN), Yea
Martinez (R-FL), Yea
McCain (R-AZ), Yea
Snowe (R-ME), Yea
Specter (R-PA), Yea

Posted by DepotGuy 2007-06-28 17:59|| 2007-06-28 17:59|| Front Page Top

#33 DG, I wouldn't shake the hand of one of those bastards on the list you just posted. RINOs all, and lying scum to boot. Particularly the idiots from Maine and Utah.

Posted by Mac 2007-06-28 19:02|| 2007-06-28 19:02|| Front Page Top

#34 Bennett (R-UT), Yea
Graham (R-SC), Yea
Gregg (R-NH), Yea
Hagel (R-NE), Yea
Kyl (R-AZ), Yea
Lott (R-MS), Yea
Lugar (R-IN), Yea
Martinez (R-FL), Yea
McCain (R-AZ), Yea
Snowe (R-ME), Yea
Specter (R-PA), Yea

These assholes have made it quite clear that they are FAKE "conservatives". They need to pay (while in office and at the next election) for their treachery.

Posted by Crusader 2007-06-28 19:05|| 2007-06-28 19:05|| Front Page Top

#35 Now harry can get on to important stuff, like the nambla normalization bill...

Posted by M. Murcek">M. Murcek 2007-06-28 19:32|| 2007-06-28 19:32|| Front Page Top

#36 Damit, Murcek!

You made me shoot beer out my nose with that snide remark!

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2007-06-28 20:37|| 2007-06-28 20:37|| Front Page Top

#37 Ebbang Uluque6305 ....Boxer.Sen (D) Ca voted against cloture the first time..then she voted yes on todays vote...figure that one out...

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