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2009-02-11 -Lurid Crime Tales-

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Posted by Angomolet Fleang5697 2009-02-11 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top

#1 He holded my arms and... just slammed me on the desk

Not to defend the teacher, but I bet little Treveon deserved it and more, and has needed some consistent discipline his whole life.

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2009-02-11 07:31|| 2009-02-11 07:31|| Front Page Top

#2 Treveon Martin, 10, is afraid of a teacher at his school

Fear can be a good motivator. Snark follows: Basically however, I blame.... white racist teachers.

Posted by Besoeker 2009-02-11 08:05|| 2009-02-11 08:05|| Front Page Top

#3 What no "why do they hate us" meme from the usual crowd [which is about the same level as adolescents]? /rhetorical question.
BTW is the investigator also ringing up the count on student on teacher battery and student on student battery that goes unreported?

Posted by Procopius2k 2009-02-11 08:05|| 2009-02-11 08:05|| Front Page Top

#4 "He holded my arms and he picked my body up, and then he just slammed me on the desk," Martin said.

Perhaps it was a grammar lesson, though it didn't take.

Posted by ed 2009-02-11 08:40|| 2009-02-11 08:40|| Front Page Top

#5 Twerps, wimps, crybabies! You should say your prayers every night that you didn't go to school and were taught by Jesuits or Irish Brothers. Whippings, beatings and chocking were too mild for those sadists. How about a knee to the groin or a rabbit punch for not paying attention. Of course, you only did that once and repeat offenders were few and far between.

Posted by Jack is Back!">Jack is Back! 2009-02-11 12:20|| 2009-02-11 12:20|| Front Page Top

#6 Former domain of current Secretary of Education Arne Duncan is it not?

Posted by tu3031 2009-02-11 12:38|| 2009-02-11 12:38|| Front Page Top

#7 Being a Chicago school, is it possible that poor Treveon mis-identified a "shiv" as a "shank" and needed a little reinforcement to make the point?

Posted by Uncle Phester 2009-02-11 13:08|| 2009-02-11 13:08|| Front Page Top

#8 I have no reservations about corporal punishment - it should be administered immediately where it's needed. However, there's a very large difference between corporal punishment (a swat on the butt, a rap across the knuckles) and child abuse, which some of these cases appear to be. We had several reported cases of molestation in a couple of the schools around here, and it took THREE YEARS to get one teacher fired after his abusive behavior was documented. There are a lot of teachers in our school system I wouldn't want my children even in the same building with. I expect things to get much worse before they get better.

Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot 2009-02-11 13:40|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2009-02-11 13:40|| Front Page Top

#9 WOW. I HAVE NO RESPECT FOR ANYONE WHO HAS CONDONED THIS CRAP BEHAVIOR ON THE PART OF SCHOOL TEACHERS.

NO RESPECT FOR ANY POSTER.

HOW DISAPPOINTING.

SICK PEOPLE.

AND ALL THIS TIME I THOUGHT BETTER OF YOU.

UNBELIEVABLE.

I think I'll be exiting the burg. Never thought I'd see this kind of sh*t here.

Posted by ex-lib 2009-02-11 13:48|| 2009-02-11 13:48|| Front Page Top

#10 I gotta ask Uncle Phester - what is the difference between a Shiv and a Shank?

(Just in case I need to visit Chicago someday...)

Posted by CrazyFool 2009-02-11 14:39|| 2009-02-11 14:39|| Front Page Top

#11 Agree XL. This was not some nun rapping knuckles with a ruler, this was an out of control adult assaulting a child or children. Sure, probably a smart ass punk who deserves punishment and a father, but nonetheless, a 10 year old kid half the size of the little Hitler who can't control a class room apparently without regular violence.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2009-02-11 14:43|| 2009-02-11 14:43|| Front Page Top

#12 XL, my first six words were "Not to defend the teacher, but"

I have seen the problems that have been created for public education by the total impossibility of enforcing any kind of classroom discipline. The kids KNOW they can get away with anything, and many have no discipline anywhere in their lives. The resulting chaos prevents anyone from learning, and in the end dooms all the kids. The teachers are frustrated, and the better ones quit. The teachers in this article are not the problem, but rather, another sypmtom of a far greater societal problem.

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2009-02-11 15:18|| 2009-02-11 15:18|| Front Page Top

#13 ex-lib and Nemble - Remember, these are allegations of corporal punishment.

Allegations are just that.

"Corporal" runs the gamut from a cuff upside the melon (or less) to an out-and-out beating. I am certain that, if the latter were the case, the parents of the little tykes would be lined up at the local percentage-based attorney looking for $ to salve the wounds to their psyche's.

When I was in Jr-Sr high, we had a number of bozos who did not contribute to a positive learning experience and, from time-to-time, needed a "tune-up" ranging from the application of a "paddle" specifically available for the purpose, to a push upside a locker with the resounding noise of cranium against thin metal providing instruction to those of like mind but inaction. I never saw blood or (physical) bruises, and the a$$holes who deserved it knew better than to run to their parents to complain (whimper).

If the teacher(s)/staff involved are sadistic bastards looking for away-from-home victims, then off with their metaphorical heads.

If, however, they are simply trying to discipline a bunch of 10 y/o snots that have developed their societal mores and language from MTV and video games, it is a horse of a different color and requires our forbearance until the entire story is told.

Posted by Uncle Phester 2009-02-11 15:18|| 2009-02-11 15:18|| Front Page Top

#14 CrazyFool: A shank, as I understand it, is a metal cutting (edge) tool made from the shank taken from a shoe. A shiv is a little more eclectic, being made from anything that can be sharpened to a point or edge.

More distinction than difference.

Posted by Uncle Phester 2009-02-11 15:27|| 2009-02-11 15:27|| Front Page Top

#15 2007 There have been some great achievements by the Chicago Public Schools this year, but they have been overshadowed by the murders of more than 30 students.

2008 Murders are up 13 percent. During the past school year, 29 Chicago-area youths were killed by gunfire. On one April weekend, 40 people were shot. Over the July Fourth weekend, nine people were gunned down - with three more killed this past weekend.

2009 CHICAGO Five people were shot as spectators left a crowded high school basketball game Friday in what police called a possibly gang-related attack that sent panicked students running into a snowy street on the city's South Side.

Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2009-02-11 17:05|| 2009-02-11 17:05|| Front Page Top

#16 All due to the loss of one community organizer?

Posted by Besoeker 2009-02-11 17:09|| 2009-02-11 17:09|| Front Page Top

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