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2007-01-25 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by ryuge 2007-01-25 06:51|| || Front Page|| [11126 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Very interesting article. Yes, he concerns me on social issues. But the more I think about it, the more I think he may be the right man at the right time.

Listen, he's dead on in the WoT. This article makes me believe he's a fiscal conservative, something even President Bush has not been accused of. I would hope he'd let the social issues work themselves out.

For example, abortion will ONLY be settled in the Supreme Court now (since it started there). Thus, the only affect he may have as Pres would be judicial nominees, 2 of which President Bush has already nominated himself. On "gay rights", I assume he'd let the States settle that themselves, and obey the "will of the people" who overwhelmingly deny it when it's put to a vote (even in liberal states like OR and WA). Really, the only "conservative" issue left where he may play a role would be gun control.

But, who's our alternative? Hillary and/or Obama would seize guns faster than Giuliani. The only other Republican option is John McCain, and he's just as liberal on social issues as Giuliani. I haven't really heard much, but I wonder what Rudy's stance is on illegal immigration? He's such a tough guy on enforcing the laws, that I've gotta wonder if he'd push for some real enforcement at the border. At the very least, he'd definitely have a better shot than milquetoast McCain.

I absolutely HATE picking "the lesser of two evils". And, I'm extremely interested in the "social issues" discussed (especially abortion and stem cell research). But, thinking through this to it's complete logical conclusion, I wonder if Giuliani is "my type of guy" in the end. Especially in light of how litte effect the President has on those listed social issues (abortion, gay rights, gun grabbing, etc.).

Posted by BA 2007-01-25 09:36|| 2007-01-25 09:36|| Front Page Top

#2 this guy took the reigns of the USA on 9-11, a TRUE leader, I would say VERY electable.

Posted by bk 2007-01-25 10:18|| 2007-01-25 10:18|| Front Page Top

#3 I dont agree with everything about him but I would support and vote for him a THOUSANDS times before I would vote for McBackstabber or "No-Nuts" Hagel.

Posted by Cyber Sarge 2007-01-25 11:20|| 2007-01-25 11:20|| Front Page Top

#4 Dinkins declared: If we had a police officer on every other corner, we couldnt stop some of the random violence that goes on, since it resulted from poverty and racism, not poor policing. Accordingly, Dinkins wanted to turn the police into social workers. His police commissioner, Lee Brown, believed that cops should stop reacting to crime and become neighborhood problem solvers.

And this is the exact analysis applied by the leftards to the supposedly mysterious causes of "terrorism" and their exact prescription for a solution: UN/Starfleet/nursery school hand-holding.

Posted by Excalibur 2007-01-25 11:56|| 2007-01-25 11:56|| Front Page Top

#5 No, he isn't. I don't vote for gun grabbers. If it come down to a vote between Clinton and Giuliani, I will vote for whatever nutjob the Libertarians are running.

Posted by Secret Master 2007-01-25 12:46|| 2007-01-25 12:46|| Front Page Top

#6 The gun issue is an emotional one, just like Stem cell and abortion. These are issues that can only be resolved at the Supreme courts and not by prez mandate, if we think he can mandate radical gun reform we are kidding ourselves and Clinton would have done it. This would hit the supreme court in seconds. Giuliani needs to be looked at with regard to deeper issues, the WOT, economy, energy, budget, etc... and let the emotional hot button issues for the courts.

Posted by 49 Pan">49 Pan 2007-01-25 13:45|| 2007-01-25 13:45|| Front Page Top

#7 These are issues that can only be resolved at the Supreme courts and not by prez mandate, if we think he can mandate radical gun reform we are kidding ourselves and Clinton would have done it.

This is exactly right. Besides, some States, like Texas have gun rights solidly incorporated into their State Constitutions.

Posted by Chuck Darwin 2007-01-25 14:31|| 2007-01-25 14:31|| Front Page Top

#8 How about a Rudy/Bolton ticket??? Boy would that trickF&*k the Dems

Posted by 49 Pan">49 Pan 2007-01-25 14:39|| 2007-01-25 14:39|| Front Page Top

#9 Unfortunately, Secret Master, a vote for the third party is usually more of a non-vote for the lesser of two evils, or actually, a vote for the worst of the three.

Clinton was elected because a lot of middle-of-the-roaders voted for Perot. Think how different the world could have been.

Your right. Your choice. Secret ballot. N'uff said.

Posted by Bobby 2007-01-25 14:55|| 2007-01-25 14:55|| Front Page Top

#10 This article doesn't seem to say anything about the border, immigration or amnesty for illegal aliens. But from what I remember about what I've heard or read about Giuliani in the past he is soft on this issue which makes him unacceptable to me. If a donk is the only alternative I might vote donk just to teach the Republicans a lesson about ignoring their conservative base. Sorry, folks. I know that's a hard choice but I figure the only reason for not closing the border and deporting illegals is that the politicians are crooked and I don't see that much difference between crooked donks and crooked republicans. No way could I vote for McCain. Just no way in hell. Not McCain or Giuliani either if his position on this issue is what I think it is. If the big boys don't want Hillary in the White House they better get wise about the border. Think I'm wrong? Maybe you don't remember when California was a red state. We gave you Pete Wilson, Sam Hayakawa, George Murphy, B1 Bob Dornan, Dick Nixon and Ronald Reagan. This is the state that passed Proposition 187 only to see the Ninth Circus Court of Appeals shoot it down. Jimmuh Carter never even bothered to campaign here. We would vote for a republican if he was the right republican. But now our demography has changed, you know what I mean, and we don't see Bush doing the right thing for us. We have to suffer with crowded schools, hospital emergency rooms that look like the third world and constant demands for more "affordable" housing. A lot of our hospitals are closing because they can't afford to care for the indigent. Bush has written us off as a blue state and we may, in fact, be lost. But it didn't have to be this way and if he'd secure the border he might get a few more votes out of us. Otherwise he is likely to lose a few more states the same way.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2007-01-25 15:15|| 2007-01-25 15:15|| Front Page Top

#11 Actually, EU6305, that's also true in solid red (current day) states too. I noted a STARK difference in the makeup of the delivery room area in between our 1st and 2nd future ranters. A lot more spanish being spoken because of the federal mandate that they have to treat them if they come in the E.R. And, this is Georgia, not a "border state" like Cali, TX or AZ. It may be happening quicker there, but trust me, it's everywhere.

Posted by BA 2007-01-25 15:29|| 2007-01-25 15:29|| Front Page Top

#12 You are right EU6305. Giuliani is soft on immigration issues. He's no Conservative. Pro-gun control, pro-special rights for gays, pro-abortion, pro anmesty for illegals etc. Also, a New York mayor doesn't sell real well West of the Mississippi. I hope the Repubs find a Conservative in time or its gonna be President Hillary. Gulp!

Posted by Intrinsicpilot 2007-01-25 16:56|| 2007-01-25 16:56|| Front Page Top

#13 I'm not a big fan of either one, but a McCain/Guliani stands a pretty good chance of beating the donks. Sure, they're not what we want, but they stand a good chance of grabbing a monster portion of the middle, and that might be what the 'pubs are looking at.

Posted by Mike N. 2007-01-25 20:56|| 2007-01-25 20:56|| Front Page Top

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