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2005-01-21 Syria-Lebanon-Iran

Europe United on Iran as Bush Refuses to Budge

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Posted by Fred 2005-01-21 00:00:00 AM|| || Front Page|| [11132 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 "I think they're Bad Guyz at heart, and that we're going to have to smash the ayatollahs, one way or the other."

It's either them, or us. The Black Hats let us know, 25 years ago, that there would be no compromise with them, not ever. A showdown is coming, and I suspect it will be soon.

Posted by Dave D. 2005-01-21 12:26:39 AM|| 2005-01-21 12:26:39 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 If Europe is united, it's a "GO."

They're wrong again.

Posted by anonymous2u 2005-01-21 12:31:40 AM|| 2005-01-21 12:31:40 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 And who does the EU-3 expect to provide the carrots to Iran? Yep, the good ole USA.

Posted by Captain America 2005-01-21 12:39:20 AM|| 2005-01-21 12:39:20 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 As long as the US doesn't start any of that 'nation building' proposal crap like we did in Afghanistan and Iraq; the country could be 'technologically destroyed' back to 20 years without a sweat! Pause, monitor the reaction retaliation levels, and if total commitment is observed, then use over whelming force to crush the nation back to 100 years ago. Let the mullahs decide the level of annihilation, like the Emperor of Japan had to do!

Posted by smn 2005-01-21 12:43:28 AM|| 2005-01-21 12:43:28 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 âIn the view of the German government, there is no alternative to these discussions,"
If there is no alternative to discussions,then discussions will not acomplish anything,and are pointless.

Posted by Raptor 2005-01-21 7:44:17 AM|| 2005-01-21 7:44:17 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Iran's mullahs aren't looking for "carrots"; these kleptocrats have already stuffed their pockets to their satisfaction and have no interest in improving the welfare of their people.

It's the host countries of Renault and Siemens that are being bribed here, not Iran.

Posted by lex 2005-01-21 8:20:49 AM|| 2005-01-21 8:20:49 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 The shearing of Britain from the U. S. is an immense victory for the French and Iranians. Perhaps the low point of the coming war will be when the forces of evil have conquered all but us and the island nation of Australia.

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-01-21 8:29:44 AM|| 2005-01-21 8:29:44 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Be charitable. There are always alternatives. For example, in this case, there are several alternatives. The mullahs could be hung from light poles. Or, they could be herded into a warehouse that is then set on fire. Or, they could be buried alive in a deep pit. Or...

Posted by Anonymoose 2005-01-21 10:44:17 AM|| 2005-01-21 10:44:17 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Iran vehemently denies it is developing nuclear weapons, insisting that its activities are merely directed at generating electricity

While the Europeans continue their "negotiations" ad infinitum, its time to give the Mullahs a taste of their own special brand of "electricity" .

Posted by EoZ 2005-01-21 1:14:43 PM|| 2005-01-21 1:14:43 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 all but us and the island nation of Australia.

Mrs. Davis,
I think you have forgotten Israel...
Dont underestimate us, I'm sure you can count us in.

Posted by EoZ 2005-01-21 1:19:17 PM|| 2005-01-21 1:19:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Mrs D is dead right - and fundamental to the equation of what comes next. Bush sure put Blair on the spot, IMHO. We shall see, but the dynamics changed yesterday, methinks.

Posted by .com 2005-01-21 1:32:21 PM|| 2005-01-21 1:32:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Thanks, EoZ. I certainly hope so as you would be a valued partner. India too, but I'm not sure how many more there will be when the dark night ends.

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-01-21 1:33:41 PM|| 2005-01-21 1:33:41 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Mrs. D,
The number does'nt count, it's the quality....
Also I would not give up on the Brit's
remember who came to power after Chamberlain.
The British have this encouraging trait of character
that when push comes to shove and the look the truth in the eye, they come to their senses very quickly.
Additionally, once they see who their true enemy is, woe be to that enemy.

Posted by EoZ 2005-01-21 1:55:58 PM|| 2005-01-21 1:55:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 The Euro-fascist elite will always bow to totalitarian evil for bucks. Iraq taught us that.

Posted by Ernest Brown 2005-01-21 4:35:56 PM|| 2005-01-21 4:35:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Did Bush put Blair on the spot. I know Im "different" here, but to me the 2nd Inaugural Address sounded pretty Blairish to me (though Tony wouldnt have mentioned G-d quite so much). The challenge is only IF its read as a threat of war with Iran. Which I didnt see in it quite frankly. I saw more outreach to the Iranian dissidents, which is quite another thing than war. More along the lines of the strategy supported by Ledeen, I think.

Posted by Liberalhawk 2005-01-21 5:08:57 PM|| 2005-01-21 5:08:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 What do you expect from European weaklings?

Posted by Glereper Craviter7929 2005-01-21 5:57:17 PM|| 2005-01-21 5:57:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 The IRAN situation in particular can make or break the unilateral credibility of the fledging EU - France per se has already staked/risked its national prestige, and by extens that of the pan-continental EU, by committing milfors to quell violence in Africa. France = EU > they can not and must not fail in their state-specific or EU-specific ventures, nor be seen as kowtowing or requiring US power, or even the Russians, to prevail, whether in Africa and espec against IRAN or other nuclearizing ME or world rogues. The EU must be seen as proactive, pro-development, pro-democracy, and benevolent to all sides.

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