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Algeria signs deal to end Berber conflict
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Saudi security forces arrest two suspected militants
RIYADH: Saudi security forces have arrested a suspected militant, while another Saudi was detained on suspicion of links to a shootout in neighbouring Kuwait, an interior ministry spokesman said Monday. The wanted suspect was arrested late Saturday after security forces raided his house in Baqaa, in the northern region of Hael, Brigardier Mansour al-Turki told AFP. "He surrendered without putting up any resistance."

Saudi Arabia is battling a wave of attacks blamed on Al-Qaeda sympathizers that has claimed some 90 lives and wounded hundreds since May 2003. Turki also confirmed press reports that Saudi authorities arrested last week a Saudi national suspected of links to the deadly gunfight in a Kuwait City suburb on January 10. "A Saudi man was arrested at a border crossing-point ... within two days" of the gunbattle in which two Kuwaiti security officers and a suspected militant were killed, Turki said.
Posted by: Fred || 01/17/2005 8:53:00 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [290 views] Top|| File under:

First Kuwaiti Guantanamo detainee arrives home
The first of 12 Kuwaitis held at Guantanamo Bay has returned home "exhausted but happy" after more than three years' captivity, a Kuwait-based detainees' committee said on Sunday. Nasser al-Mutairi arrived in Kuwait city overnight on a jet sent by the Kuwaiti government, head of the Kuwaiti Family Committee Khalid al-Odah told Reuters. Mutairi was one of a dozen Kuwaiti men imprisoned at the U.S. military prison in Cuba during the 2001 U.S. war to oust al Qaeda and the Taliban from Afghanistan after the Sept. 11 attacks. Designated as "enemy combatants" by the Pentagon, most of about 550 non-U.S. detainees at Guantanamo Bay base have been held without charge, legal representation or trial.

"This is one giant step in our efforts to obtain due process for the 11 prisoners left behind but it is only one step," Odah said in a statement. He said none of the 12 were wanted for anything in their homeland and have no criminal records. The statement said Mutairi, an Education Ministry employee, was also a missionary representing the apolitical Tableeghi sect of Islam when he travelled to Afghanistan in October 2000 to teach in the mosques and schools. There he was captured by bounty hunters and sold to U.S. forces.
Or so the tale has it. Wonder why the bounty hunters were on his tail?
He was just minding his own business, wasn't he?
An apolitical sect of Islam...is such a thing possible?
Posted by: Fred || 01/17/2005 00:00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [316 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Just on an educational walkabout in Afghanistan among the friendly and hospitable Taliban .....and Binny.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 01/17/2005 12:28 Comments || Top||

#2  What? No claims of 'mistreatment' and/or 'torture'? These guys are dropping the ball...
Posted by: Raj || 01/17/2005 12:29 Comments || Top||

#3  "our efforts to obtain due process"

Coming from an Arab, this smacks of the finest grade of hypocrisy. The al-Odah of it is overpowering.
Posted by: .com || 01/17/2005 12:39 Comments || Top||

Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Russian security forces foil 'another Beslan' in republic near Chechnya
Russian security forces foiled a mass hostage-taking by pro-Chechen rebels in southern Russia on the scale of the bloody Beslan school hostage tragedy, media reported. A law enforcement source in Dagestan, which neighbours war-torn breakaway Chechnya, told the ITAR-TASS news agency that five militants cornered Saturday in an hours-long siege in the republic planned to seize a large number of hostages that day. The head of the FSB security service in Dagestan, Nikolai Gryaznov, said the siege and a separate assault on rebels hiding in a house in nearby Kaspiysk -- in which a total of four Russian troops died -- had averted a major terror act. "The bandits destroyed in Kaspiysk and Makhachkala were preparing a terrorist act similar to Beslan," the Interfax news agency quoted Gryaznov as saying. "We made use of intelligence information, carried out dozens of raids and searches. This allowed us to corner the criminal group preparing terrorist acts," he said.

A member of the Russian parliament from Dagestan told journalists that the militants had planned to seize a school. "It was the same plan as Beslan, they were preparing to seize a school," lawmaker Gadzhi Makachev told the NTV channel. In a gunbattle lasting more than 15 hours on Saturday, using heavy weaponry, special forces fought the five militants who had holed up in a house near the Dagestani capital Makhachkala. A spokesman for the Dagestani interior ministry, Colonel Abdulmanap Musayev, told ITAR-TASS that a base used by the gunmen had been discovered with large quantities of weapons and bomb-making equipment.

The siege near Makhachkala began when a police patrol came across the armed rebels in the street early Saturday as they left to carry out the terror act, ITAR-TASS reported. The gang were forced to barricade themselves in a house, taking hostage a family living there, but later released them. NTV showed pictures of special forces with armoured vehicles firing anti-tank rockets at a burning building, which was levelled to the ground by a tank. The five gunmen, who had taken refuge in the basement, stopped returning fire by late evening Saturday, and officials said the bodies could be buried under the rubble. On Sunday, special forces accompanied by bomb disposal experts and sniffer dogs looking for booby-trapped bombs searched the ruins of the two-storey building. The Dagestan interior ministry spokesman said that during the operation in Kaspiysk two men had been arrested and a Dagestan rebel leader had been killed.
Posted by: tipper || 01/17/2005 9:00:00 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [330 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The head of the FSB security service in Dagestan, Nikolai Gryaznov, said the siege and a separate assault on rebels hiding in a house in nearby Kaspiysk -- in which a total of four Russian troops died -- had averted a major terror act.

Kaspiysk is where a major military airfield is as well. Rebel may have had a military target in mind.
Posted by: badanov || 01/17/2005 9:37 Comments || Top||

#2  Main attack at Makhachkala and a diversion at Kapiysk?
Posted by: Pappy || 01/17/2005 14:48 Comments || Top||

#3  Unlikely. There is s'posed to be a Russian Naval Infantry detachment based there for local defense of the air base. A guerilla diversionary assault would most certainly be crushed in a militarily rapid and efficient manner by Russian Marines.
Posted by: badanov || 01/17/2005 15:00 Comments || Top||

#4  God, that pic is so depressing. The freakazoids must be stopped.
Posted by: Captain America || 01/17/2005 15:56 Comments || Top||

Britain's online imam declares war as he calls young to jihad
via Tim Blair
A bit slow on this, aren't they? We had it a week ago, two days in a row...
AN EXTREMIST London cleric is using live broadcasts on the internet to urge young British Muslims to join al-Qaeda and has condoned suicide terrorist attacks. Omar Bakri Mohammed, who has lived in the UK for 18 years on social security benefits, pledged allegiance to Osama bin Laden and told his followers that they were in a state of war with Britain. The Times monitored Mr Bakri Mohammed's nightly webcasts in which he declared that the "covenant of security" under which Muslims live peacefully in the UK had been "violated" by the Government's tough anti-terrorist legislation, The Syrian-born radical said: "I believe the whole of Britain has become Dar ul-Harb (land of war). In such a state, he added, "the kuffar (non-believer) has no sanctity for their own life or property."
Rest of 3 page article at link
Posted by: ed || 01/17/2005 4:23:38 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [312 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The new wrinkle is Bakri is using the internet to broadcast his sermons and talk to his followers. The seventh century has gone high tech.
Posted by: ed || 01/17/2005 18:21 Comments || Top||

#2  I hope somebody pops that freaks cap.
Posted by: anymouse || 01/17/2005 19:37 Comments || Top||

#3  Can someone do us all a favor and put a bullet through Omar's head?
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 01/17/2005 21:17 Comments || Top||

#4  Mohammed, you're fired. You're voted off the island.
Posted by: John Q. Citizen || 01/17/2005 22:25 Comments || Top||

Home Front: WoT
No Regrets, Says Disgraced Graner
"Yet," he forgot to add.
Charles Graner
, 36, the convicted ringleader in the Abu Ghraib prison scandal, remained defiant after being sentenced to 10 years behind bars on Saturday, insisting he had only been following orders. In addition to the 10 years, the sentence also demoted Graner to private (the lowest possible rank in the military) and gave him a dishonorable discharge. As he was led from his court martial in handcuffs and leg irons, Graner, answered "No" when reporters asked if he had any regrets. "I was a soldier. If I did anything wrong, here I am," he added, holding out his shackled wrists.
Whatever he was, he wasn't a soldier. Time to design a new uniform; this one's dirty.
Posted by: Fred || 01/17/2005 00:00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [604 views] Top|| File under:

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Posted by: Thavinter Chesing9218 TROLL || 01/17/2005 0:24 Comments || Top||

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Posted by: Unomock Jomble5468 TROLL || 01/17/2005 0:43 Comments || Top||

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Posted by: sibilla ecumenica TROLL || 01/17/2005 2:27 Comments || Top||

#4  I'll bet he regrets he got caught.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 01/17/2005 3:24 Comments || Top||

#5  It's a pity the jury can't revisit the case, take that attitude into account, and make it the maximum 15 years.
Posted by: Tom || 01/17/2005 8:33 Comments || Top||

#6  On the other hand, maybe you lot will regret not giving people like him more space to operate.

Posted by: gromgorru || 01/17/2005 9:09 Comments || Top||

#7  Doubtful. The guy was a sadist, a loser who had been in trouble in his civilian prison job, too. He incited others in his unit to disobey orders; he was a detriment to the orderly operation of that unit.

He's getting off easy.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 01/17/2005 10:10 Comments || Top||

#8  I haven't seen enough hard info-what were the actual convictions? The article names prisoner beatings & humiliation and the sentence is 10 years. Is that about average for "beatings and humiliation of prisoners"? Did he hit them in retaliation for their throwing excrement or some such other provocation? Perhaps in court it doesn't matter, but this is such a superficial coverage, it's difficult to judge what exactly happened.

Is there any element here of letting lower ranked personnel take the fall for someone higher up? What were the instructions people in excluded units like his were given? This smells a little to me-is he being made a fall guy for what was a controversial and fuzzily-defined softening up policy (although I wouldn't exclude humiliation and pressure as acceptable tactics in this war, were it my decision).
Posted by: Jules 187 || 01/17/2005 10:37 Comments || Top||

#9  I saw Mon and Dad on a morning show and they are convinced that he was following orders. I don't remember hearing about that defense during the trial, but I have not followed it close. His Dad warned parents about letting kids join the service. I remember Graner (before the trial) claiming that some unknown CID people telling him to 'soften up' the prisoners, but he never gave a name/date/details about this CID encounter. They also tried to point the finger at the "Torture Memo" as proof but it wasn't released to the military in Iraq before the abuses occured. I am pretty much convinced that this guy is not teling th truth and is hoping that by spreading enough poop something will stick. Fortunately it only makes him smell worse.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 01/17/2005 12:13 Comments || Top||

#10  Dad warned parents about letting kids join the service.

I would guess that coverage of this episode will not help recruiting efforts.
Posted by: Jules 187 || 01/17/2005 12:19 Comments || Top||

#11  What I am certain of, is 2 things:

1) He and his little crew / kind / ilk did the greatest disservice to the US and the US Military in the last 40 yrs -- handing a bogus "issue" to all of the forces of anti-Americanism which, of course, memed it into their mantra to be repeated for generations to come as a truism.

2) I want his sorry ass OUT of that uniform -- and into the pinstripes that cowards ought to wear.
Posted by: .com || 01/17/2005 12:23 Comments || Top||

#12  As far as I have been able to tell, Jules, Graner was doing this for the sheer pleasure of it. In his civilian life as a prison guard he'd been disciplined for similar actions. Remember, in addition to the naked body piles, there was also forced sex with and between prisoners, forcing them to watch while Graner and England had sex, and so forth. This was not a carefully calibrated attempt to soften up the prisoners for interrogation; if those were the orders Graner was given, he either was not given proper instruction on how to accomplish that, or took the opportunity to amuse himself and his comrades. The latter seems probable, as the participants took care to hide their activities from their superiors.
Posted by: trailing wife || 01/17/2005 12:29 Comments || Top||

#13  That is more information than I've seen in any article-thank you, TW. It would be nice to see it confirmed.

It's important that the complete story gets out there. Reporting the precedents in previous work settings of forced sex or beatings, as two examples, would be pertinent. I would think that is a very powerful and essential piece of information that the military would want out there? Maybe they can't put it out there?

As to calibrated softening up, it seems to me that since a superior/superiors were giving instructions on how to deal with detainees and reports of abuse are coming from more than one place (right?), there are at least three possibilities for what happened:
1) Instructions were intentionally vague because this kind of outcome was anticipated. This is the ugliest of the 3 possibilities and, if this is borne out over time, it will be devastating.
2)Instructions were explicit and Graner and Co. did what they wanted anyway.
3) Instructions were not explicit because of incompetence/poor leadership/mismanagement.
Posted by: Jules 187 || 01/17/2005 12:47 Comments || Top||

#14  As to calibrated softening up, it seems to me that since a superior/superiors were giving instructions on how to deal with detainees and reports of abuse are coming from more than one place (right?)


Do some more reading before you try to come up with more theories. Start with Heather McDonald's piece in City Journal.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 01/17/2005 12:53 Comments || Top||

#15  Will do, Robert. What you say would indicate that the 20 other cases on rantburg's other thread are all from the same unit?
Posted by: Jules 187 || 01/17/2005 12:58 Comments || Top||

#16  Didnt the case also look at his fraternizing with subordinates? I may be wrong but I thought I heard that somewhere. If so would that not hold rather large consequences in a military courtroom?
Posted by: J || 01/17/2005 13:13 Comments || Top||

#17  Is this the right article?


The abuse at Abu Ghraib resulted from the Pentagon’s failure to plan for any outcome of the Iraq invasion except the most rosy scenario, its failure to respond to the insurgency once it broke out, and its failure to keep military discipline from collapsing in the understaffed Abu Ghraib facility. Interrogation rules were beside the point.

As the avalanche of prisoners taken in the street fighting overwhelmed the inadequate contingent of guards and officers at Abu Ghraib, order within the ranks broke down as thoroughly as order in the operation of the prison itself. Soldiers talked back to their superiors, refused to wear uniforms, operated prostitution and bootlegging rings, engaged in rampant and public sexual misbehavior, covered the facilities with graffiti, and indulged in drinking binges while on duty. No one knew who was in command. The guards’ sadistic and sexualized treatment of prisoners was just an extension of the chaos they were already wallowing in with no restraint from above...
Posted by: Jules 187 || 01/17/2005 13:24 Comments || Top||

#18  sounds like a future sit com
Posted by: half || 01/17/2005 14:27 Comments || Top||

#19  What you say would indicate that the 20 other cases on rantburg's other thread are all from the same unit?

No, it wouldn't.

The point -- which I'm not sure you got -- is that there were no instructions to Graner and company to "soften up" anyone. They were ignoring the orders they had -- in part because the officers above them included some gross incompetents (their Brigade command) and some merely inadequate.

The single largest contributing factor to Abu Ghraib was, IMHO, Graner. He's a sadist looking for the chance to act out his fantasies; unfortunatley the break down of command at Abu Ghraib gave him his chance. The reason you haven't heard much about his history is because it doesn't fit the story the press wants to cover.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 01/17/2005 14:28 Comments || Top||

#20  I don't disagree with you that the press has its own misguided agenda. Nor do I dispute that an individual-Graner-could be a sadist and could have used his sadism on his subordinates and prisoners alike.

What your rebuke of me and the Macdonald article do not address is whether all counts of abuse-or even the majority of them-come from the same locale. If they do not seem to be bunched there, then it is correct to question what the policy was as part of the total analysis of how sodomy, beatings, etc happened. I am not interested in focusing on the spin of this story in the MSM-those folks equate panties on the head and pyramid buildings with amputations, broken bones, executing prisoners. I am interested in learning that good military people who were following orders didn't get taken down with sadists and other violent nutcases. I don't want to run away from this story because we are too uncomfortable with considering other reasons for how Abu Ghraib, etc happened. If these events were widespread, inquiry is natural.
Posted by: Jules 187 || 01/17/2005 14:53 Comments || Top||

#21  I do believe I read the reason this abuse occured in the wee hours was because there were no officers surpervising the detainees at those hours. England was a clerk and was not supposed to be in the detention area. No women were supposed to be there at that time of night. Most probably some of the charges against Graner were for sexual misconduct. You do NOT have sexual relations with your subordinates regardless of your rank. The commander of the prison, What's Her Ugly Mug, should be court martialled as well for dereliction of duty.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 01/17/2005 15:37 Comments || Top||

#22  Monitoring the traitors.
Posted by: Thavinter Chesing9218 || 01/17/2005 0:24 Comments || Top||

#23  Monitoring the traitors.
Posted by: Unomock Jomble5468 || 01/17/2005 0:43 Comments || Top||

#24  I hope this scum bag bastard to have a taste of the same medicine
Posted by: sibilla ecumenica || 01/17/2005 2:27 Comments || Top||

Southeast Asia
Weekly Piracy Report for 4-10 January
09.01.2005 at 0500 LT at Tanjung Priok anchorage, Indonesia. Five robbers armed with knives boarded a general cargo ship and entered engine room. Alert crew mustered and fought with robbers. Robbers jumped into a boat and left empty handed.

07.01.2005 at 1220 LT anchored 3 miles off breakwater, Tanjung Priok cargo anchorage, Indonesia. Four armed robbers boarded a general cargo ship and stole engine spares. Robbers jumped overboard and escaped in a high speed boat. Port authority informed.

06.01.2005 at 0400 LT at Chittagong outer anchorage, Bangladesh. Several robbers armed with long knives boarded a tanker at poop deck. Alert crew mustered and activated fire hoses. Robbers stole ship's stores and fled in speedboat.
Posted by: Pappy || 01/17/2005 2:17:29 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [310 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Love the graphic!
Posted by: Pappy || 01/17/2005 21:57 Comments || Top||

RoP bombs Thai noodle shop
"No noodles for you, kufr!"
A bomb believed planted by Muslim insurgents exploded Sunday at a noodle shop in southern Thailand, killing one person and injuring 59 others, officials said. The bomb, estimated to weigh 10 pounds, was left in the shop and triggered remotely by a mobile phone at noon while the shop was crowded, police said. Witnesses said the bomb may have been planted by a woman who left her purse on a chair and walked out shortly before the explosion, provincial police chief Col. Parinya Kwangyeun said. The restaurant's owner was confirmed dead, and 59 other people were hospitalized with injuries, including 10 who were in critical condition, Parinya said. Many previous bombings in the area have used the same gel explosive, large quantities of which have been reported stolen from quarries and construction sites.
Posted by: Seafarious || 01/17/2005 9:39:53 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [314 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Noodles are un-Islamic.
Posted by: ed || 01/17/2005 1:23 Comments || Top||

#2  How about a Vietnamese Noodle Parlor? Don't like fa either?
Posted by: .com || 01/17/2005 2:48 Comments || Top||

#3  a tidal wave wasn't enough distraction ya gotta bomb noodle shops for sumpin ta do???
Posted by: anon1 || 01/17/2005 11:20 Comments || Top||

#4  Muslims like their noodles well cooked, I guess.
Posted by: Captain America || 01/17/2005 16:06 Comments || Top||

#5  Special wong tong soup, just for you.
Posted by: Poison Reverse || 01/17/2005 16:47 Comments || Top||

#6  Damn! I had hoped the Islamofascist killers were also ALL killed by the Tsunami.
Posted by: leaddog2 || 01/17/2005 23:12 Comments || Top||

Fallujah Districts are Now Open
FALLUJAH, Iraq(Jan. 17, 2005) -- The Interim Iraqi Government (IIG) directed that Fallujah be reopened on a district by district basis, to citizens on Dec. 23. Assisted by Iraqi and U.S. forces, the city successfully opened all 18 districts on Jan 14. Security was paramount as five entry control points and curfews were established to ensure safety of its citizens. As of Jan. 16, more than 140,000 residents returned.
Posted by: ed || 01/17/2005 2:49:24 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [301 views] Top|| File under:

#1  But, but... that's impossible! Fallujah was utterly destroyed and the "citizens" were far too fearful to return! I read it in the NYT, WaPo, Boston Probe, BBC - all of the reliable sources! This must be a hoax!
Posted by: .com || 01/17/2005 15:10 Comments || Top||

#2  Bartender, rack up another round.
Posted by: Captain America || 01/17/2005 15:51 Comments || Top||

#3  And all citizens are being fingerprinted, ID carded, and retinal scanned. It will be interesting to see if such measures are effective in preventing the return of bad boyz.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 01/17/2005 15:58 Comments || Top||

#4  We killed a lot of the trouble makers. I bet that we will continue to do so.
Posted by: leaddog2 || 01/17/2005 23:04 Comments || Top||

Catholic Priest Abducted in Iraq
Gunmen kidnapped the head of the Catholic Christian community in the northern Iraqi city of Mosul on Monday as he was walking in front of his church, a priest said.

The gunmen forced Bishop Gorgis into a car and drove away, the priest said on condition of anonymity. The bishop was walking in front of the Al-Bishara church in Mosul's eastern neighborhood of Muhandeseen when he was abducted.

The reason for the kidnapping was unclear, but Christians - tens of thousands of whom live in and around Mosul - have been subjected to attacks in the past.
The reason for the kidnapping was unclear? Uhm, er, ah, ...WOW!!!

Posted by: Dragon Fly || 01/17/2005 1:29:34 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [307 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Syrian Catholic Archbishop...hmmm
Posted by: Frank G || 01/17/2005 14:32 Comments || Top||

#2  So John Paul, just how many divisions do you have?

Does the Vactican walk the walk or just talk the talk?
Posted by: Mark Z. || 01/17/2005 14:36 Comments || Top||

#3  talk the talk.

They'll deplore it as terrorism and then do nothing else. The Italians might have a rally or protest march at the vatican to demonstrate their support. That'll show those bad guys.
Posted by: Yosemite Sam || 01/17/2005 17:50 Comments || Top||

#4  join the army stop talk FUCK YOU JEW FAG
Posted by: fuck you bastard jew || 01/17/2005 19:03 Comments || Top||

#5  Pissed that your woman left you for your Jewish betters? At least you have your goat (as long as the rope doesn't break).
Posted by: ed || 01/17/2005 19:08 Comments || Top||

#6  Unfortunately, the answer is talk the talk ...

Mark Z. -- you get could "walk the walk," but that'd require a good bit of continent-wide homicide and forced conversions to get the Vatican up to *ahem* military par ... by which I mean 75% GDP expenditures on "defense." :P
Posted by: Edward Yee || 01/17/2005 23:00 Comments || Top||

#7  They have churches in Mosul? Who knew?
Posted by: 2b || 01/17/2005 23:03 Comments || Top||

Hammorabi thinks Z was arrested
...The Saudi man who was shown in the TV recently said that he heard from the Mujahdeen that Zarqawi was arrested by the Iraqi guards for few hours but was then released! This means one thing only which is that the news of Zarqawi arrest was true and his followers knew that. They were unable to refute the news so as they tried to cover it with lies by saying that he was released after captured. They try to carry their attacks by pushing the fooled ones for that.

In conclusion there are strong indications about the arrest of Zarqawi who provided much information about his thugs which led to the intensified specific raids. This is probably the reason why he was not shown immediately.

It seems to be the announcement of Zarqawi arrest is just a matter of time, possibly in the next few days or weeks?
Posted by: anonymous2u || 01/17/2005 12:29:11 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [382 views] Top|| File under:

#1  If true I hope he's missing more parts...
Posted by: Laurence of the Rats || 01/17/2005 12:59 Comments || Top||

#2  Hammorabi thinks Z was arrested

I'd settle for dead and decomposing.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 01/17/2005 13:11 Comments || Top||

#3  I'd settle for just "Dead" -- Park him in Lenin's tomb, if they want to. We just need to show what Terrorist "retirement" benefits are.
Posted by: Interested spectator || 01/17/2005 13:21 Comments || Top||

#4  Maybe we should ask Al Franken what to do with him? Oh! better yet, Susan Estrich. We can discuss his alienable rights and the Geneva Convention and in the end my buddy Kofi will put him on trial with the sweeties from Rwanda and he may get a suspended sentence with home confinement. I love liberals.
Posted by: Rightwing || 01/17/2005 13:43 Comments || Top||

#5  Don't forget to get permission from the ACLU and Ramsey Clark before anything is done--don't want to offend anyone's sense of PC. Give him a fair trial and then hang him.
Posted by: John Q. Citizen || 01/17/2005 13:46 Comments || Top||

#6  This is soooo last week....
Posted by: Captain America || 01/17/2005 14:36 Comments || Top||

#7  hang him upside down and tickle him with a feather ...
Posted by: legolas || 01/17/2005 14:47 Comments || Top||

#8  Do what is needed for him not being able to enjoy those 72 virgins, then kill him. Then tell jihadis they will meet the same fate.
Posted by: JFM || 01/17/2005 14:52 Comments || Top||

#9  I hope arrested is right. We need something to show that the leaders of this movement are all talk about dying for the cause.
Or maybe they are waiting for the restocking of 72 virgins, since so many have went before. And he will kill himself in jail for the cause, once the restock is complete.
Posted by: plainslow || 01/17/2005 15:31 Comments || Top||

#10  Z should have 72 screaching Susan Estrichs chasing after his ass. That automatically excludes virgins, I suppose.
Posted by: Captain America || 01/17/2005 16:01 Comments || Top||

#11  Captain America: They say that a woman re-achieves virgin status after a year w/o sex, which probably means that Estrich is a virgin 30 times over, give or take a few.

Whatever the case, I wouldn't bed that woman and my standards are set about a micrometer above non-existent.
Posted by: gb506 || 01/17/2005 16:33 Comments || Top||

#12  We need a Not Hit It symbol, methinks, lol!
Posted by: .com || 01/17/2005 16:36 Comments || Top||

#13  Maybe that is wat the 72 virgins thing is. Martyrs get Susan Estrich at age 72.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 01/17/2005 16:53 Comments || Top||

#14  What! You mean they're not going to release him and make him President of the EU?
Posted by: AJackson || 01/17/2005 18:04 Comments || Top||

#15  Boil him in lard.
Posted by: RWV || 01/17/2005 20:11 Comments || Top||

#16  I read that article. We all hope this killer is in custody or dead! We will see.
Posted by: leaddog2 || 01/17/2005 23:08 Comments || Top||

#17  right on Capt A
Posted by: 2b || 01/17/2005 23:17 Comments || Top||

#18  STuff his ass full of bacon and then dump his carcass onto Al Jazeera studios from a BlackHawk.
Posted by: JackAssFestival || 01/17/2005 23:21 Comments || Top||

Israeli rockets target Gaza building
A building in Gaza City has come under rocket attack from an Israeli helicopter as violence continued to sweep the occupied territories. The attack early on Sunday came hours after eight Palestinians were killed by Israeli fire, overshadowing the swearing-in of Mahmud Abbas as the new Palestinian leader.

An Israeli military spokesman confirmed the attack, saying it had been aimed at a building in Bait Lahya in the north of Gaza City used as a workshop for making rockets and mortar shells. The raid came after 20-year-old Abdel Rauf Abu Namus from the Islamic Jihad was killed by Israeli troops late on Saturday. Earlier, five died and seven were injured in an Israeli incursion into the Zaitun neighbourhood of Gaza City, Palestinian medics said. Israeli sources meanwhile claimed two children were wounded in the settlement of Netzarim when a mortar landed in a synagogue.
Posted by: Fred || 01/17/2005 00:00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [414 views] Top|| File under:

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Posted by: Glimble Chineth1792 TROLL || 01/17/2005 0:21 Comments || Top||

#2  Clean up! Aisle #1!!
Posted by: Doc8404 || 01/17/2005 0:32 Comments || Top||

#3  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Spetch Glinelet3921 TROLL || 01/17/2005 0:39 Comments || Top||

#4  Sounded like a death threat, Boring. You're big on death threats, aren't you? Go back to Serbia.
Posted by: Fred || 01/17/2005 0:49 Comments || Top||

#5  Death threat, eh, Fred?

Sorry I missed that. You get all the fun posts. ;-p
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 01/17/2005 1:28 Comments || Top||

#6  Check out the sink trap Barbara. Borass doesn't scare me. Hell, I'm married to a redhead. ;)
Posted by: Doc8404 || 01/17/2005 1:32 Comments || Top||

#7  Sink trap?
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 01/17/2005 3:23 Comments || Top||

#8  Barbara - On the main page - right sidebar... ;-)
Posted by: .com || 01/17/2005 3:25 Comments || Top||

#9  Boris the Spider? What the krutz is wrong with you?
Posted by: Korora || 01/17/2005 13:09 Comments || Top||

#10  Oh no, don't incur the Wrath of Prickbitch! He'll... um... hang around like a bad smell.
Posted by: Bulldog || 01/17/2005 13:13 Comments || Top||

#11  Bore-ass again? What, the Chetnik MPs haven't caught up with you yet? Well, they probably have a lot of deserters to look for and Simi Valley is a long way from their nearest post. You'll be history if they can place a mole in the CA Department of Health.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 01/17/2005 14:25 Comments || Top||

#12  ima wonder if The Mossad is still under his futon
Posted by: half || 01/17/2005 14:30 Comments || Top||

#13  Since this is a domestic operation, we were only allowed to set The Death Ray on "Low Self Esteem"... although that does seem to be working. It's right over there in that apartment building.
Posted by: The Mossad || 01/17/2005 16:24 Comments || Top||

#14  Monitoring the traitors.
Posted by: Glimble Chineth1792 || 01/17/2005 0:21 Comments || Top||

#15  Doc8404, we'll soon clean US from traitors like you.
Posted by: Spetch Glinelet3921 || 01/17/2005 0:39 Comments || Top||

U.S. Arrests Dozens Ahead of Iraq Vote
U.S. troops staged a series of raids in Mosul and elsewhere in northern and central Iraq on Sunday, arresting dozens, while insurgents stepped up their attacks two weeks ahead of national elections, ambushing a car carrying a prominent female candidate and killing 17 people in other assaults. Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz conceded that U.S. and Iraqi forces cannot stop "extraordinary" intimidation by insurgents before the Jan. 30 vote. Underscoring the precarious security situation, Salama al-Khafaji, was ambushed in central Baghdad by gunmen wearing police uniforms, but she escaped injury when her bodyguards returned fire, an aide said. It was the second attempt since May on the life of al-Khafaji, who is running on the favored slate endorsed by the country's main Shiite cleric, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani. U.S. and Iraqi officials have insisted that the elections go ahead as scheduled, despite the persistent violence.
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Posted by: Crolush Ebbutch6817 TROLL || 01/17/2005 0:22 Comments || Top||

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Posted by: Elminemble Clinese9415 TROLL || 01/17/2005 0:41 Comments || Top||

#3  Watch the Iraqis have a greater turnout for their first election than the US did this November past. This has been quite inspiring. Today is one of the last days to register and I expect you will see the Iraqis lined up to do so with the full knowlege that they are prime targets.
Posted by: TomAnon || 01/17/2005 7:19 Comments || Top||

#4  Monitoring the traitors.
Posted by: Crolush Ebbutch6817 || 01/17/2005 0:22 Comments || Top||

#5  Monitoring the traitors.
Posted by: Elminemble Clinese9415 || 01/17/2005 0:41 Comments || Top||

Iraqi Shia official's son shot dead
The son of an official close to Grand Ayat Allah Ali al-Sistani — Iraq's most influential Shia figure - has been shot dead southeast of Baghdad by an unknown assailant. Ali al-Khatib, the 30-year-old son of Sayyid Habib al-Khatib, was killed on Sunday in the town of Naamaniya. His father, al-Sistani's aide in Wasit province, survived a similar assassination attempt two months ago. Last week, Islamist group Jaish Ansar al-Sunna (the Army of Ansar al-Sunna) claimed the assassination of another aide to al-Sistani.

Meanwhile, two election centres in Iraq's second city of Basra came under mortar attack two weeks ahead of elections planned for most of the country. Five mortar shells landed on the election centres in the southern city, said Lieutenant Ammar Hassa. The attacks caused material damage to the buildings but there were no casualties, he added.
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Female Shiite candidate survives ambush
Gunmen in police uniform on Sunday ambushed a car carrying a prominent female Shiite candidate in this month's general election, but she escaped injury when her bodyguards returned fire, one of her aides said. Salama al-Khafaji was traveling in central Baghdad when gunmen opened fire about 1 p.m. from a car and a motorcycle, according to the aide, Sheik Fateh Kashf al-Ghataa, who riding with her. Their security guards returned fire and the gunmen fled. The attack was the second attempt on al-Khafaji's life since May, when gunmen ambushed her convoy as she headed back to Baghdad from the holy Shiite city of Najaf south of the capital. Her son and one of her bodyguards were killed in that attack. Al-Khafaji is running on a mostly Shiite ticket that enjoys the tacit support of Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, Iraq (news - web sites)'s top Shiite cleric. The ticket is expected to secure a comfortable victory in the landmark ballot. Al-Khafaji was one of three women in the U.S.-appointed, 25-member Iraqi Governing Council set up to help the Americans run the country until an interim government was installed in June. She is currently a member of an unelected chamber that oversees the work of the interim government.
You go, girl! And hooray for loyal bodyguards...
Posted by: Seafarious || 01/17/2005 10:42:46 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [298 views] Top|| File under:

#1  regardless of her political views, That Is One Brave Women! It is women like Salama al-Khafaji who will have the most impact on reshaping the political climate of the mideast.
Posted by: TomAnon || 01/17/2005 7:09 Comments || Top||

#2  I hope the examples shown by a handful of brave Iraqi women like Salama will help shame some of the Iraqi men into displaying more bravery as well--primarily those INGs and police who are prone to run away at the first sign of confrontation.
Posted by: Dar || 01/17/2005 10:41 Comments || Top||

Afghanistan/South Asia
Terrorist killed in Kot Lakhpat shootout was 'most wanted'
LAHORE: An Al Qaeda terrorist who was killed in a shootout with law enforcement agencies in Kot Lakhpat on November 25, 2004, has been identified as Abdul Salam alias Akbar, who was on the list of most-wanted terrorists and carried a Rs 10 million bounty on his head, sources told Daily Times on Sunday. Salam was an Afghan national and had settled in Karachi. He was allegedly involved in four terrorist operations across the country and had close links with notorious terrorists Akram Lahori, Wahab Afghani, Ataullah and Asif Choto. The police had arrested two of Salam's aides while three security personnel were injured in the shootout.

Salam had codenamed himself Muhabat Khan. The police had initially identified the body as that of Muhabat Khan's. "Salam had escaped from South Waziristan Agency along with one of his aides and took shelter in his friend's house in Kot Lakphat. The police met with stiff resistance when they raided the house and the terrorists fired more than 200 bullets at them," intelligence officials told Daily Times. An intelligence team arrested Muhammad Imran alias Bobby, a resident of Kot Lakhpat's Bhatti Colony, from Peshawar, after it intercepted Bobby's conversation with Salam on the wireless. The police made the raid after Bobby told them that he had given refuge to Salam in his house.
Posted by: Fred || 01/17/2005 00:00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [304 views] Top|| File under:

SC takes up Qari Saif case today
A division bench of the Supreme Court will today hear a petition challenging the arrest and detention of alleged Al Qaeda operative Qari Saifullah Akhtar, who is accused of involvement in an assassination attempt on President General Pervez Musharraf and other terrorist activities. When Akhtar was arrested five months ago in Dubai, Information Minister Sheikh Rashid Ahmed, who is among the respondents in the case, had hailed it as a major breakthrough in the war against terror. Washington had also praised his arrest.

A Supreme Court bench of Justice Hamid Ali Mirza and Justice Falak Sher will hear the petition, which has been filed by his brother-in-law, Abdul Rehman Mehmood. The petition says that since Akhtar was arrested in Dubai on August 6, 2004, his family has not been told the charges against him, been allowed to meet him, or even been informed where he is being kept.
Posted by: Fred || 01/17/2005 00:00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [274 views] Top|| File under:

More Maoists Shot Dead
HYDERABAD, India: Two more suspected Maoists were killed by police in Warangal district yesterday as a bus was set afire by the extremists in Kurnool district in Andhra Pradesh. The Maoists also gave a call for a general strike today in the extremist-infested districts. Warangal Superintendent of Police Stephen Ravindra said a police party was on its way from Rampur to Komaram on routine patrol when it encountered a group of Maoists. The rebels opened fire when asked to surrender. Police killed two of them while the rest fled. Police retrieved two weapons, a generator, computer-related accessories and wireless communication sets. In Kurnool district, Maoists burned down a state-owned bus in the evening. Five armed men stopped the bus at Berluti village. After forcing the passengers to disembark, they set the bus alight.
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Kashmir stadium standoff ends
The standoff at an indoor stadium in Srinagar in Indian administered-Kashmir has ended with the killing of the remaining besieged separatist fighter. The security operation was over by late afternoon on Sunday in the state's summer capital. Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) Deputy Inspector-General SS Singh said the slain fighter's accomplice had been shot dead earlier during the day.

The bodies of two paramilitary soldiers have been recovered. They had gone missing during a gun battle that erupted after the two fighters sneaked into a normally heavily guarded sports complex on Saturday. Firemen found the bodies early Sunday morning when they entered the stadium to extinguish a blaze that had broken out minutes after the operation to flush out the besieged fighters was resumed at dawn. Hundreds of police and paramilitary forces had completely encircled the indoor stadium from the outside soon after the two fighters forced their way into the complex. Ambulances and fire-tenders were also moved in and kept on standby, witnesses said.

The operation had been suspended on Saturday night based on the calculation that Indian security forces were likely to suffer casualties due to the fact that the fighters had taken positions well inside a two-storey building within the complex housing India's regional passport office. Security officials said one of the fighters, thought to be from an obscure group called al-Mansourin, might have been killed in retaliatory fire. The complex was being used as barracks by the military and is close to where a parade is to be held to mark India's Republic Day on 26 January. At least three security officers were injured in the initial firefight.
Posted by: Fred || 01/17/2005 00:00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [291 views] Top|| File under:

Govt orders confiscation of sectarian literature
The federal government has ordered the provincial governments and the Islamabad administration to crackdown on publications and videos that promote sectarian violence and glorify Al Qaeda. The Interior Ministry recently received intelligence reports detailing some such material in booklets, audio cassettes and CDs and being sold in markets all over Pakistan, sources told Daily Times. The material includes speeches by Haq Nawaz Jhangvi and Maulana Ziaur Rehman Farooqi, former leaders of the outlawed Sunni militant group Sipah-e-Sahaba, in which they call for attacks against Shias, the source said.

Also on sale are video CDs that contain "subversive propaganda" against the president and the armed forces, particularly criticising Pakistan's support of the US-led invasion of Afghanistan and continuing military operations in Wana, the sources said. Some videos and CDs claim to show footage from Wana operations - horrific scenes of scattered human limbs, burnt and mutilated bodies of civilians including women and children, bodies of Pakistan Army soldiers, rallying foreign fighters and the speeches of their leaders.
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Frontier Corps secures Sui gas field as manhunt continues
Frontier Corps personnel have secured the Sui gas field and set up pickets in the area, sources told Daily Times on Sunday. Tribesmen angry at the gang rape of a female doctor attacked Sui gas installations with rockets over five days last week. At least eight people were killed and 35 injured in their clashes with security forces. FC personnel patrolled the area on Sunday and Pakistan Petroleum Limited reopened its hospital, but the area remained quiet, with little activity apart from hectic repairs to damaged gas installations.

Local police said that the situation is improving and many people who had fled the area were returning to Sui city and most shopkeepers were open for business. Police said they had made no arrests so far of the people involved in the attacks. Lt General Hamid Rab Nawaz, the Quetta corps commander, visited Sui on Sunday and met with officers of the Frontier Corps, Defence Security Guards and civil officers. According to the Sui administration, the local officers briefed Gen Nawaz about the attacks on the Sui gas plant and pipeline. Nawaz also visited sections of the Sui gas plant where field engineers briefed him about the damage done. The gas supply to major power plants and fertiliser factories has been suspended because of the damage, gas company officials said.
Posted by: Fred || 01/17/2005 00:00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [330 views] Top|| File under:

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