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2006-01-19 Home Front: Culture Wars
Going Native in America
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Posted by tu3031 2006-01-19 11:24|| || Front Page|| [11138 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Cough, cough, Bullshit!, cough.
Posted by bigjim-ky 2006-01-19 12:03||   2006-01-19 12:03|| Front Page Top

#2 Lol. The Cherokees' scam (adopting everything between 0° and 98.6°) continues to work beautifully. It's a numbers game.

As for the silly romantic pretenders? Heh, I doubt they'd have lasted a day. Pathetic lot.

Posted by .com 2006-01-19 12:17||   2006-01-19 12:17|| Front Page Top

#3 Many are frustrated and are looking for some kind of meaning in their lives. "If being white is just an empty plate," she says, "then being Indian is a gourmet buffet."

Personally I’ve always considered myself a steaming hot cup of coffee... with a considerable amount of cream in it.

Posted by Secret Master 2006-01-19 12:37||   2006-01-19 12:37|| Front Page Top

#4 My sister married a man who's 1/2 Canadian Iriquois - though he doesn't advertise it or use it in any way. That makes their daughters 1/4 native - enough to legitimately claim membership, IIUC. Now that the girls are old enough to start looking at colleges (very competitive ones), they're wondering if they should claim their native heritage to get an edge. At least they wouldn't be lying, unlike a certain perfesser.
Posted by Xbalanke 2006-01-19 12:38||   2006-01-19 12:38|| Front Page Top

#5 Who couldn't see this kind of garbage coming as a logical consequence of affirmative action? AA was a scam from its inception and has done nothing but become more biased with time. Damn the people who invented it and double damn those complete frigging idiots who continue it at the cost of Balkanizing this country. At the end of the day there will be a serious price to pay for having done this and it won't be silliness like this story.
Posted by mac 2006-01-19 13:21||   2006-01-19 13:21|| Front Page Top

#6 I think I'm going to become a "Native American" too.

From now on, my Indian name will be:
Sits On Ass And Types.

Or you can just call me "Chief" if that's easier.
Posted by Dar">Dar  2006-01-19 14:48||   2006-01-19 14:48|| Front Page Top

#7 "If being white is just an empty plate," she says, "then being Indian is a gourmet buffet."

Yeah! God knows there's *NEVER* been a contribution to culture from the white man.

Many of the converts connect the indigenous existence with ideals such as equality between the sexes

A concept that the white man developed and introduced. Sorry, but there is NFW you can stretch the cultural practices from the Americas -- North, South, or Central -- into any shape resembling equality of the sexes.

Looking at pre-Columbian (but late!) practices, I have to point at Cahokia's Mound 72:

Primary mound 3 [part of mound 72] was constructed between the first two mounds and was built over a large burial pit containing over 53 young women ages 15 to 30 and four males with heads and hands removed.


Modern testing of the 53 sacrificed women established they were not native to Cahokia; they were either tribute supplied from other regions, captives, or slaves purchased in trade.

That's some real equality there...

more democracy

Bullshit. Utter bullshit. How democratic is a society in which a funeral of the absolute dictator's cousin involves the ritual murder of dozens of slaves and lower-caste tribesmen? Or in which the caste into which you're born -- and your role within society -- is fixed?

and a romantic affinity with nature

Again, bullshit. The Natives modified their environment to the best of their abilities, and the myth of the ecological Indian is as racist as blackface. Hint: maize isn't natural, and its ancestor grasses aren't native to North America, yet it was the primary staple of North American cultures at the time of Columbus. Other farmed plants were spread -- introduced despite being alien species -- and the fricking dog wasn't native to the Americas, either.

There's archaeological evidence of over-farming, of deforestation, and other supposedly modern crimes against nature.

The anthropologist found that two things were particularly attractive to the pale-faced Indians: the spiritual rituals and the idea of belonging to a group.

In other words, New Age religion and a feeling of belonging, exacerbated by the modern practice of treating European heritage and American culture as diseases and the racist noble savage myth.

I've got Cherokees in my family tree, too, and I'm certainly not ashamed of them. But I recognize where real progress -- technological and cultural -- has come from.

Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford  2006-01-19 14:53|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2006-01-19 14:53|| Front Page Top

#8 I'm a member of the Fakowee tribe. Whenever we go to a new place we introduce ourselves, "High, We're the Fakowee". People usually answer us with the name of the place we are at the moment.
Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues  2006-01-19 15:30||   2006-01-19 15:30|| Front Page Top

#9 
Posted by .com 2006-01-19 15:55||   2006-01-19 15:55|| Front Page Top

#10 In the future, everybody will be an Injun for 15 minutes.
Posted by mojo">mojo  2006-01-19 15:59||   2006-01-19 15:59|| Front Page Top

#11 Remember this when people start saying whites are a minority. Seems a little drop of ethnicity is all it takes to be non-white. We've nearly created the Bizarro world version of Aparthied.
Posted by rjschwarz">rjschwarz  2006-01-19 18:36||   2006-01-19 18:36|| Front Page Top

#12 Turning Indian I think I'm turning Indian I really think so...
Posted by BH 2006-01-19 18:55||   2006-01-19 18:55|| Front Page Top

#13 Crap like this is why I like putting down Human under race. People get all confused when they are talking about race and you ask them if they're aliens since their race isn't human.
Posted by Silentbrick">Silentbrick  2006-01-19 18:58||   2006-01-19 18:58|| Front Page Top

#14 Bizaro Cochise 6
A fine name for a band.
Posted by 6 2006-01-19 20:14||   2006-01-19 20:14|| Front Page Top

#15 When they ask for my race, I always put down mutt. :)
Posted by djohn66 2006-01-19 20:33||   2006-01-19 20:33|| Front Page Top

#16 I'm a native American.

What? I was born in this country. How much more native can I get?




Oh, yeah - I do also have a bit of aboriginal American in me courtesy of my maternal grandfather. ;-p
Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut  2006-01-19 20:39|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html]  2006-01-19 20:39|| Front Page Top

#17 Me? I'm 100% pure Central European immigrant. But Mr. Wife just learnt last month that one of the French Canadian g'g'g'-great-somethings actually married out about two centuries ago. So he has that single drop of Iroquois blood, too. Genetically speaking, the aboriginal peoples did pretty well in the way of decendents, considering that something like 90% died of various plagues between the time the first Europeans landed on the continent and the time they conquered those remaining.
Posted by trailing wife 2006-01-19 22:01||   2006-01-19 22:01|| Front Page Top

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