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2006-01-19 Terror Networks
Bin Laden offers Americans truce
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Posted by Whineger Phaviting8058 2006-01-19 11:46|| || Front Page|| [5 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 I gotta admit, I like the terms. We offer to stop banging Binny's senior officer corps, and he offers to...retire to his cave to continue plotting the demise of Civilization and to be measured for his new Caliph turban.

Where do we sign?
Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious  2006-01-19 12:22||   2006-01-19 12:22|| Front Page Top

#2 
Posted by .com 2006-01-19 12:27||   2006-01-19 12:27|| Front Page Top

#3 There was a Tumbleweeds comic strip years ago that applies to this situation. The indian chief asks the Colonel of a cavelry fort to surrender the fort. "Give me one good reason", the officer asks. "Because you're losing", replies the chief. "Need a better reason than that", says Colonel Fluster. "Because we're winning", says the chief.

Binny should take parable to heart.
Posted by Jim K 2006-01-19 12:28||   2006-01-19 12:28|| Front Page Top

#4 Truce? OK, right after the US annexes Arabia.
Posted by ed 2006-01-19 12:29||   2006-01-19 12:29|| Front Page Top

#5 Benny's speech sounds like it was written by the leading Demo politicians. Nancy keeps telling us, they are developing a plan. Maybe Benny is delivering this as a dry run for them.

With Hillary saying Bush isn't being tough enough on the MMs in Iran and calling for sanctions, now Benny offering truce, wonder how she's going to square this? Attack the Iranians, and maybe Benny will offer a truce for them also?

And wonder if the Demos will realize now, that we are at war. I mean, how can you have a truce if there is no war? So, if Dems start screaming for "talks for this truce," will they admit we are at war?

There's something about cause and effect here, that just seems to be circling around in my head, not landing anywhere. Oh well, it almost time for lunch, maybe food will help this circling entity to find a resting place.
Posted by Sherry 2006-01-19 12:42||   2006-01-19 12:42|| Front Page Top

#6 Though obviously intended as a slam of Americans, the artist who created this image actually got it more right than his Lefty Moonbat Kool Aid addled PCism allowed him to realize, heh. It's a prominent feature of Tranzis in the terminal stage of BDS. I figure it will give many of you a case of the giggles. ;-)
Posted by .com 2006-01-19 12:42||   2006-01-19 12:42|| Front Page Top

#7 The LLL/Dums must be proud he covered all of the talking points, military industrial complex, warmongers made Bush pres, Americans don’t support US WOT (same polls the Dums have made and tout), US is losing, blah blah blah.

You could fill in Bin Laden name for Kerry, Shenan, Dean, Kennedy, Pelosi, Moore and it would just sound like another LLL radio address.
Posted by C-Low 2006-01-19 13:07||   2006-01-19 13:07|| Front Page Top

#8 Truce my ass. I have just one question, when they put this towel head in the ground will they put an outhouse over his grave...?
Posted by Flinenter Phelet8865 2006-01-19 13:09||   2006-01-19 13:09|| Front Page Top

#9 Here are our terms for your "truce": Your unconditional surrender and war criminal trial--or death by Hellfire. Either is fine by me.

I'd also like to state how proud this American taxpayer is of the spooks who nailed the 3-4 al Qaida ops in Pakistan this past week. Nice shootin', boys! Keep up the great work!

I just love the timing of this "truce" offer right after the Pakistan strike... the offer tape was probably recorded and planned for release before the strike happened, but the timing is excellent and makes it appear al-Qaida is crying "Uncle".
Posted by Dar">Dar  2006-01-19 13:16||   2006-01-19 13:16|| Front Page Top

#10 .com he has a pretty good grasp of the geopolitix of the region. Thanks!
Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious  2006-01-19 13:22||   2006-01-19 13:22|| Front Page Top

#11 Can't wait for one of the "intellectuals" to say this is evidence that poor Binny's been misunderstood. All he really needs is a hug, an Iron John drumming session, or something like that.
Posted by Desert Blondie 2006-01-19 13:23|| http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com ]">[http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com ]  2006-01-19 13:23|| Front Page Top

#12 The bin Laden truce and the Murtha withdrawal plan are pretty much the same document.

Wonder if anyone but us Rantburgers will notice?
Posted by Mike 2006-01-19 13:27||   2006-01-19 13:27|| Front Page Top

#13 Benny's speech sounds like it was written by the leading Demo politicians

don't know who wrote it, but it sure sounds like it was taped a good while ago -- no specifics. It may also be the offer of hudna that preceeds (when it is ignored) an attack.
Posted by lotp 2006-01-19 13:28||   2006-01-19 13:28|| Front Page Top

#14 We are a nation that Allah banned from lying and stabbing others in the back

Have we been reading the same Koran, Binny?
Posted by Secret Master 2006-01-19 13:30||   2006-01-19 13:30|| Front Page Top

#15 009.005 But the treaties are not dissolved with those Pagans with whom ye have entered into alliance and who have not subsequently failed you in aught, nor aided any one against you. So fulfil your engagements with them to the end of their term.

009.005 But when the forbidden months are past [when the 'treaties' expire] then fight and slay the Pagans [wherever] ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem of war.


No hudna for me, thank you very much. I'll pass.
Posted by Secret Master 2006-01-19 13:39||   2006-01-19 13:39|| Front Page Top

#16 rather than spin this as a DU conspiracy or neocon conspiracy, it would be nice to use this "offer" as a teachable moment to tell people what a hudna is

Wikipedia has a good write up
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Hudna
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Hudna (åÏäÉ) is an Arabic term meaning "truce" or "armistice" as well as "calm" or "quiet", coming from a verbal root meaning "calm". It is sometimes translated as "cease-fire". In the Lisan al-Arab (Ibn al-Manzur's definitive dictionary of classical Arabic, dating to the 14th century) it is defined as follows:

"hadana: he grew quiet. hadina: he quieted (transitive or intransitive). haadana: he made peace with. The noun from each of these is hudna."
A particularly famous early hudna was the Treaty of Hudaybiyyah between Muhammad and the Quraysh tribe.

According to Umdat as-Salik, a medieval summary of Shafi'i jurisprudence, hudnas with a non-Muslim enemy should be limited to 10 years: "if Muslims are weak, a truce may be made for ten years if necessary, for the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) made a truce with the Quraysh for that long, as is related by Abu Dawud" ('Umdat as-Salik, o9.16).

Posted by mhw 2006-01-19 13:41||   2006-01-19 13:41|| Front Page Top

#17 Sorry, pigf*ker, my religion specifically probits me from talking to dead mean.
Posted by Elmack Spaish8416 2006-01-19 13:42||   2006-01-19 13:42|| Front Page Top

#18 secret master gives two alternate quotes for 9:5

a site with 3 translations is at:
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/009.qmt.html

Chapter 9 has most of the verses that inform Jihad law.
Posted by mhw 2006-01-19 13:47||   2006-01-19 13:47|| Front Page Top

#19 SM listed suras 9:4 and 9:5. Basically it's saying to honor the hudna (no more than 10 years) if the infidels also honor it. At expiry, it's jihad again.

Since Surah 9 was the last (some say next to last) chapter of the quran to be revealed, it supercedes all the be nice to the idolaters verses Mo spouted while he was weak.
Posted by ed 2006-01-19 14:33||   2006-01-19 14:33|| Front Page Top

#20 Binny blinked.
Oh, and he thinks we don't want to fight Muslims in our own land...Bullshite, we have these pesky laws keeping us from annihilating y'all.
Posted by wxjames 2006-01-19 14:56||   2006-01-19 14:56|| Front Page Top

#21 Binny didn't blink. The quran says to offer a truce when the muslims are in a bad position. It's just an acknowledgement of facts on the ground and a desire to regroup and attack when our guard is down again.
Posted by ed 2006-01-19 15:11||   2006-01-19 15:11|| Front Page Top

#22 I'm in, ed. They're playing the Long Game. When we finally become tired of the WoT (happening all around us already) and so self-absorbed and juvenile that we're back to navel-gazing, then it will begin anew. It's to our immense advantage that they're tactically clueless. They started this about a decade too soon. Thank your Lucky Stars that they did it when they did and that Dubya grew into the shoes, not to mention that he beat Gore and Skeery. Just imagine...
Posted by .com 2006-01-19 15:15||   2006-01-19 15:15|| Front Page Top

#23 Make that strategically clueless. PIMF.
Posted by .com 2006-01-19 15:16||   2006-01-19 15:16|| Front Page Top

#24 Actually, Ptah addresses this rather well in a post at his site www.crusaderwarcollege.org. Go ye, and read of his wisdom! ;-)
Posted by trailing wife 2006-01-19 15:37||   2006-01-19 15:37|| Front Page Top

#25 .com is right on. Thank God that these idiots wanted the glory for themselves, not for future generations. So they could'nt wait much longer for the war to happen, less they not be glorified.
Posted by plainslow 2006-01-19 15:58||   2006-01-19 15:58|| Front Page Top

#26 How does just plain NO! sound. I have over 4,000 reasons we should remain vigilant until he and his terrorists are destroyed.
Posted by 49 Pan">49 Pan  2006-01-19 18:41||   2006-01-19 18:41|| Front Page Top

#27 In Dec04, Binny depended on Michael Moore for his material. This go round, Binny is channeling

Posted by doc 2006-01-19 18:42||   2006-01-19 18:42|| Front Page Top

#28 Nancy keeps telling us, they are developing a plan.

I thought the plan was, that they weren't going to offer a plan?
Posted by Pappy 2006-01-19 18:55||   2006-01-19 18:55|| Front Page Top

#29 No peace but the peace of the grave.
Posted by Grunter 2006-01-19 20:01||   2006-01-19 20:01|| Front Page Top

#30 hasn't he historically made offers of peace if the infidels give up right before an attack? We'll see...
Posted by Damn_Proud_American 2006-01-19 20:19||   2006-01-19 20:19|| Front Page Top

#31 I got 5 bucks that says we don't get hit "soon" (90 days) DPA.
Posted by Ol Dirty American 2006-01-19 21:25||   2006-01-19 21:25|| Front Page Top

#32 ..but also offered Americans a "long-term truce".

Message that should be sent back: Phuck you and your "truce".
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2006-01-19 21:34||   2006-01-19 21:34|| Front Page Top

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