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Dems consider torture show 'n tell at Gonzales hearing

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Posted by Steve White 2005-01-03 12:28:06 AM|| || Front Page|| [11129 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 They must figure since it is early in the 2006 election cycle, they can make political hay out of Gonzalezs' memo.

Wrong.

I think this is an excelent opportunity to split the democratic party even further by painting the democrats as terrorist loving fifth columnists for trying to go after Gonzalez.

Posted by badanov 2005-01-03 12:41:10 AM|| [http://www.rkka.org/title-boris.gif] 2005-01-03 12:41:10 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 This is indeed truth time for Dems. If you have a problem with Gonzales' memos and the admin's policy-- and I agree that they deserve close scrutiny, esp since Scalia himself spanked the admin on the torture and detainment issues-- then bring it up responsibly, quietly, behind closed doors. There's a war on, remember?

Posted by lex 2005-01-03 1:08:14 AM|| 2005-01-03 1:08:14 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Get serious. The Dems may feign "concern" about the Abu torture memos, but Gonzales' confirmation is a walk. He is the best thing that's come along for the Democrats since Bush Sr. appointed David Souter to the Supreme Court bench. Gonhzales is part of the Open Borders crowd, which is swell re: Democrat Party prospective voters. He loves affirmative action ( another biggie plus factor with the Dems)and was in a big struggle with Ted Olson over the gov't's brief with regards to the Uof Michigan case. "Gonzales was part of a majority vote in the Roe v. Wade case that was presented to the Texas Supreme Court. He case granted a 17-year-old girl a waiver to a state law that required a minor to inform her parents for seeking an abortion."

Except for Abu Grau, Gonzales is a Democrat in GOP clothes.

Posted by joeblow 2005-01-03 1:43:19 AM|| 2005-01-03 1:43:19 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 How much worse will things have to get for Carl Levin and the other leading lights of the Democratic Party, before they realize that people are damn sick and tired of seeing them trash our military to gain cheap political points?

I was a Democrat for 31 years, but I will never vote for another one of those slimey bastards again so long as I live-- not even for Dogcatcher.

Posted by Dave D. 2005-01-03 1:58:22 AM|| 2005-01-03 1:58:22 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Gonzales = A powerful Mexican that isn't a Democrat. This about a Mexican being off the N.E./West coast controled Democratic party plantation. All such people of color must be lynched. Same old racist democratic party just a different day. All Mexicans will get the message. You are only safe if you are a democrat look down when you walk past them genuflect and shuffle your feet. It has nothing to do with what is alleged to be torture. It has to do with destroying any mexican or negro that has political power outside of that bestowed by the Democratic party.

Democratic party = racist lynchers.

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2005-01-03 2:30:10 AM|| [http://www.slhess.com] 2005-01-03 2:30:10 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 I think you should read up on Gonzales' legal positions, sock, before coming automatically to his defense just because he appears, on first glance, to be an Hispanic going against the grain. This guy, in fact, is the quintessential Democrat Trojan horse. Why would the Democrats not want him as AG? He's pro-AA, pro open bordetrs, pro abortion. What's not to like if you're a leftie? Gonzales'itty bitty conservative stance on being tough on Muslim POW's- like Democrats really care about that - POWs don't vote in US elections, so big deal. The Democrats will love Gonzales but will posture "concern" for good effect. Even the ACLU hasn't taken a position on Gonzales-what does that tell you? Focus, please, on what an AG does.

Posted by joeblow 2005-01-03 2:44:49 AM|| 2005-01-03 2:44:49 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Please make an ass of your party, Carl, please, please, please, please, please!

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-01-03 7:51:18 AM|| 2005-01-03 7:51:18 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Amen Mrs D! Bring it on assholes. I really hope they spend an hour-long special on CBS trying to 'connect the dots' from Gonzales to Abu Grabass. No sane individual will watch nor understand the reasoning. Too bad we can't run a list of intelligence victories that started with some loud AC/DC and bright lights. Kind of makes you wonder what side the dhimis are on.

Posted by Cyber Sarge 2005-01-03 11:58:30 AM|| 2005-01-03 11:58:30 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Sarge. How about AC/DC's "Highway to Hell?"

Posted by John Q. Citizen 2005-01-03 2:00:28 PM|| 2005-01-03 2:00:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 And yet we still sit on how many photos of torture of Iraqis (hell, add in non-Iraqis, while we're at it) because our sensibilities are too touchy about exposing such pictures to the public? Well, the public better wake up and grow up.

If this proceeds as described and no contrast is made between a prisoner beating his head against the wall and Saddam chopping off people's hands, between humiliation via masturbation and shredding people live, then we are contributors to our own demise.

Posted by Jules 187 2005-01-03 2:12:33 PM|| 2005-01-03 2:12:33 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Rumormill:

Gonzalez is a shoo-in for AG because Dems don't want him on USSC.

Posted by Anon4021 2005-01-03 4:38:04 PM|| 2005-01-03 4:38:04 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Jules, I agree, and think the Republicans should go tit for tat on this one.

So every time the Dems show a photo from Abu Ghraib of one of the terrorists with panties on his head, the Republicans should counter with a photo of any one of dozens of beheadings these same guys are guilty of. And so on.

And every time we do counter with such a display the Dems will scream: "What does THAT have to with these hearings?" To which we can reply: "CONTEXT, you fucking morons" (OK, I we may have to drop the "fucking" part) :)

Posted by Justrand 2005-01-03 6:14:31 PM|| 2005-01-03 6:14:31 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Can't say "moron" openly, either, but there are plenty of tactful ways to get that message across...mostly by showing the pictures of beheadings with the do-ers names written underneath, or by playing the cute little action videos they're so fond of making.

WRT Gonzalez, AG has in the past been a stepping stone to a seat on the USSC. Final line on the resume', especially if he argues a few cases before the SC, demonstrating his ability at that level.

Posted by trailing wife 2005-01-03 6:58:33 PM|| 2005-01-03 6:58:33 PM|| Front Page Top

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