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-Short Attention Span Theater-
Bristol Palin 'breaks off engagement'
The marriage plans of former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin's daughter have been thrown into jeopardy after reports her fiance's ex-girlfriend is pregnant with his child.
Levi validated his manhood with another girlie, did he?
Bristol Palin, 19, announced plans to wed Levi Johnston last month after their first engagement in December 2008 was called off.
"Levi! There's the door! Use it!"
But a report from tabloid newspaper the National Enquirier claimed Mr Johnston, 20, was expecting another baby with ex-girlfriend Lanesia Garcia, conceived during his split with Ms Palin.
There's no such thing as rubbers. There's no such thing as birth control. There's no such thing as keeping it in your pants.
The news has reportedly prompted Ms Palin to call off the wedding but a representative from the Alaska family said "no official decision had been made".
"Tood, throw him out or I'm going to maul him!"
"Yes, dear!"

Tood is her special pet name for him when she's about to shoot something that deserves it.
Posted by: Fred || 08/01/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  There is something about Alaska that is very attractive to women and men who want to make a lot of children, however they go about it. I've no idea why. But I have met at least two girls at different times who wanted to go to Alaska and *reproduce*.

Of course, I doubt their clever plans work out for most, but the intent is there.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 08/01/2010 10:35 Comments || Top||

#2  Bristol is now realizing Mama knows best.
Posted by: OldSpook || 08/01/2010 12:47 Comments || Top||

#3  Johnston is a loser. Always was, always will be. Cut your losses and leave the table young lady.
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/01/2010 14:12 Comments || Top||

#4  I remember the first time seeing 'Ricky Hollywood' on TV, at the 2008 Convention. The very first thought through my head was "Something just looks WRONG with that kid". I couldn't point out anything particular really, but looking at him for more than a minute you get the feeling not everything is there in that head of his.
Posted by: Charles || 08/01/2010 15:55 Comments || Top||

#5  Hey Levi! Bristol's mom is here to have a talk with you!
Posted by: DMFD || 08/01/2010 19:37 Comments || Top||


-Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
Quake strikes Iran for second day
TEHRAN - A 5.8 magnitude earthquake struck southern Iran on Saturday, reports said without providing details on any casualties, a day after a weaker quake injured over 270 people in the country’s northeast.

The latest temblor rattled the southern province of Kerman at 11:22 am (0652 GMT), the website of state television reported, citing the geophysics department of Tehran university. It disrupted communications, but there were no immediate reports of casualties.

Fars news agency said the epicentre was in the town of Negar in southwest Kerman. It also said there were no immediate reports of casualties, and added the area where the quake struck was rural.

On Friday, a 5.7 magnitude quake rattled northeastern Khorasan Razavi province, leaving at least 274 people injured, ILNA news agency reported, adding only 12 victims were hospitalised.
Posted by: Steve White || 08/01/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  too deep to be nuke test.... boring...
Posted by: 3dc || 08/01/2010 0:36 Comments || Top||

#2  Building up to the big one. Allan is very disturbed.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 08/01/2010 7:20 Comments || Top||

#3  Just tuning up and checking coordinates.
Posted by: Halliburton - Mysterious Conspiracy Division || 08/01/2010 10:31 Comments || Top||

#4  The 12th imam still trying to find the well opening?
Posted by: Muggsy Glink || 08/01/2010 12:24 Comments || Top||

#5  Boobquake™?
Posted by: OldSpook || 08/01/2010 14:49 Comments || Top||

#6  I don't think so. According to religious authorities, there are no gays or boobs in Iran.
Posted by: gorb || 08/01/2010 19:11 Comments || Top||

#7  One interesting thing about the quakes is that they struck areas about 500 miles apart. They're both in the western part of Iran, and about equidistant from Qom. For Halliburton - center, drop 2 degrees, and fire for effect.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 08/01/2010 19:33 Comments || Top||


Caribbean-Latin America
Venezuela troops at Colombian border
The Venezuelan government has deployed troops on the border with neighboring Colombia after the two side severed bilateral ties.

"We've deployed military units, air force, infantry, but quietly because we don't want to upset anybody, the population," President Hugo Chavez told state-run VTV television in a telephone interview on Saturday, AFP reported.
If you don't want to upset anybody, then why say anything at all?
Chavez did not provide details regarding the troop buildup on the Colombian border, but accused Bogota of being "capable of anything."

"[Colombian President Alvaro] Uribe is capable of anything in his last days" before he leaves office on August 7, said Chavez.

"This has become a threat of war and we don't want war," he added.

Caracas severed diplomatic ties with Bogota on July 22, one week after Uribe accused Venezuela of sheltering 1,500 leftist Colombian rebels on it soil -- a charge Chavez has strongly denied.

Chavez has also threatened to cut off oil shipments to the United States if it backed an attack by Colombia, its chief ally in the region.

Colombia has rejected a peace plan offered by Venezuela to end the dispute over allegations that Venezuela is sheltering leftist guerrillas.

Uribe has said that his government will offer its own peace plan to address the issue.
Posted by: Fred || 08/01/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Commies

#1  Obama, I know he's your political bud but... can't you at the least place a cartel hit order?
Posted by: 3dc || 08/01/2010 0:39 Comments || Top||

#2  Talks! Talks! Let's have some talks. Of course, we will need to have talks to set up the talks. And, before that, have talks to determine where the talks to set up talks will occur. Oh, and before that, we need to hire some more Ivy League graduate and train them to prepare for the talks about talks about talks.

Our foreign policy is clearly better than it has ever been.
Posted by: Highlander || 08/01/2010 9:23 Comments || Top||

#3  This week we should see the dollar drop again. They want more for their oil so the prick of war will drive prices up or the dollar will. This is the same tactic employed in the Arab world why not here.
Hugo is desperate. He has to divert attention from the many problems his country has.
Posted by: Dale || 08/01/2010 16:24 Comments || Top||

#4  If I were Columbia I would taunt tHugo militarily, making him tie up resources move troops and equipment here and there,in order to respond to 'attacks' that never come.
Make him spend more money and exhaust his troops keeping them on high alert for weeks, even months.
Sooner or later the Venezuelan people will tire of tHugo and he will be overthrown like all dictators eventually do.
Posted by: Mike Hunt || 08/01/2010 17:15 Comments || Top||

#5  Pull my finger.

If chavez tries anything Colombia, go in there and kill him and withdrawl.
3 days max. you know how to do it.
Posted by: newc || 08/01/2010 18:10 Comments || Top||


Fifth Column
Murder ends prison guard conspiracy to overthrow US government
Raymond Franklin Peake III told investigators that "he would kill to defend his country and he was stealing weapons to defend his country," court documents read. The Hampden Township man is in Cumberland County Prison without bail after being charged with homicide Saturday. Police said one of the weapons Peake, 64, stole resulted in the July 21 shooting death of lawyer Todd Getgen, 42, of Enola.

Both Peake and Tuso are correction officers at State Correctional Institution at Camp Hill, a spokesperson confirmed Saturday. "When something like this happens, they are suspended without pay," said Susan McNaughton, the state department of corrections press secretary.

Peake told police he had been stealing guns for an organization that is collecting firearms to overthrow the federal government, court documents say. Peake also told police that he and Tuso are members of the organization, but refused to give its name.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 08/01/2010 10:10 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "It's called the Peake and Tuso Liberation Army™ and there's like a secret handshake and stuff, but it's secret"
Posted by: Frank G || 08/01/2010 11:43 Comments || Top||

#2  "When something like this happens, they are suspended without pay,"

Good to know.
Posted by: gorb || 08/01/2010 13:25 Comments || Top||

#3  2 weapons were stolen from a shooting range. Todd Getgen was killed at the range & his weapon taken. Sneaky SOBs.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 08/01/2010 14:33 Comments || Top||

#4  Overthrow the government? One can't say these two yokels didn't have grandiose ambitions delusions. Peake and Tuso were a few beers short of a six pack.
Posted by: JohnQC || 08/01/2010 18:21 Comments || Top||

#5  "Whadda ya mean it's illegal to shoot lawyers?"
Posted by: mojo || 08/01/2010 19:12 Comments || Top||


The Grand Turk
Armenian-Americans sue for century-old losses
[Al Arabiya Latest] Lawyers for two Armenian men have sued Turkey and two of its major banks, claiming they and others were victims of genocide and seeking what could amount to hundreds of millions of dollars in damages.
While I do sympathize, I think they make statutes of limitations for this sort of thing.
The lawsuit, filed on Thursday in U.S. District Court in California, names the Republic of Turkey, The Central Bank of the Republic of Turkey and T.C. Ziraat Bankasi as defendants. The suit seeks class action status on behalf of all Armenians and Turkish citizens "who were deprived of their citizenship, brutally deported, (and) had their property seized" by the Turkish government.
If this works the remnants of the Paleologues will be filing suit next.
Los Angeles attorney Brian Kabateck, who filed the suit on behalf of L.A. resident Garbis Daoyan and Queens, New York resident Hrayr Turabian, said he believes this is the first lawsuit dealing with the Armenian genocide that names the Turkish government as a defendant. Lawyers were seeking class-action status for the suit, a process that attorney Brian Kabateck said could take as long as three years. "We are rolling up our sleeves and are going forward," said Brian Kabateck.
"If this flies we'll be rolling in dough. All those Armenian descendants will get a few bucks, but I'm lookin' at a half acre house and a trophy wife!"
The lawsuit seeks compensation for land, buildings and businesses allegedly seized from Armenians along with bank deposits and property, including priceless religious and other artifacts, some of which are now housed in museums in Turkey. "All of the lawyers involved have relatives who perished or fled the Armenian genocide, which gives it a special poignancy for us," said the attorney, Mark Geragos.
I remember him. He defended Scott Peterson and then Michael Jackson fired him.
The lawsuit claims more than a million Armenians were killed in forced marches, concentration camps and massacres "perpetrated, assisted and condoned" by Turkish officials and armed forces.
It was the prototype for the Holocaust...
Also named in the lawsuit were the Central Bank of Turkey and T.C., Ziraat Bankasi, the largest and oldest Turkish bank with origins dating back to the 1860s. The lawsuit claims the government of Turkey agreed to administer the property collect rents and sale proceeds from the seized assets and deposit the receipts in trust accounts until the property could be restored to owners. Instead, the government has "withheld the property and any income derived from such property," the lawsuit said.
That was The Treaty of Sevres. The Turks signed it, then a few years later repudiated it, and it was replaced by the Treaty of Lausanne. Sounds like it's a matter for the League of Nations, which seems to have acquiesced, since it takes a minimum of two to treaty.
A message left with the Turkish Consul General's office in Los Angeles was not immediately returned. After-hours e-mails seeking comment from both banks were not immediately returned. Lawyers for the plaintiffs believe records of the properties and profits still exist, and they are seeking an accounting that could reach billions of dollars.
30 percent of billions is big bux indeed...
Geragos said the biggest issue in Armenian communities is seeking recognition for the ethnic bloodshed that allegedly claimed the lives of as many as 1.5 million Armenians between 1915 and 1919.
The bloodshed's a matter of record, regardless of what the Turks say.
Posted by: Fred || 08/01/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  While I sympathize with the Armenians that were brutally slaughtered 80 years ago...I have to ask.. where does it end?
If you agree to this 'compensation' you open the flood gates.
slippery slope.
Everyone got fucked over by someone at sometime in history.
You cannot right the wrongs of history with legal remedies in the present tense.
Move forward...Move ahead!
Posted by: Mike Hunt || 08/01/2010 4:45 Comments || Top||

#2  oops... sorry for the potty mouth!

sincerely

Mikey
Posted by: Mike Hunt || 08/01/2010 4:46 Comments || Top||

#3  And how this is fundamentally any different from Spanish courts seeking international jurisdiction to prosecute Americans for actions in a third country? Yes, I know that the game has been played here before. It should never have been allowed to start.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 08/01/2010 7:48 Comments || Top||

#4  Not to disagree with your conclusion, but the difference is a criminal prosecution for an act committed elsewhere versus a civil action to collect for damages to a US citizen. The US does not try non-citizens for criminal acts committed in another jurisdiction. Do you really want to say that Americans from Iran can't sue Iran for damages they suffered when tortured?

I think Mike's point is more pertinent. To sue for damages, you have to have suffered the damage directly. If this stands, TW would be able to sue the FRG for the damages her family suffered in WWII. But almost everybody who immigrated did so as the result of some level of inhospitability in their former homeland that an artful attorney could construe as warranting damages.

Frankly people who raise these suits strike me as lacking a full understanding of what it means to be an American. When you come here, you should be leaving the old country and all its baggage behind once and for ever. When you come you should be dealt with as an individual American with the same rights as every other American. Make your way into the future in the new world, but leave the old behind.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 08/01/2010 8:48 Comments || Top||

#5  If this stands, TW would be able to sue the FRG for the damages her family suffered in WWII.

Agreed, Nimble Spemble, that's absurd. In the end I agree with my mother that we are happier here than we would have been had she stayed in the old country (beyond the mere fact of my existence, I mean). I'll check on that again over the next few weeks -- the trailing daughters and I are going on a tour of Germany and Holland with my mother, visiting her old haunts, school chums and relatives she hasn't seen in some cases since the 1930s. Mr. Wife has the odd idea that he has too much work at the office to take off for so long...

Mikey, forgiven. Even I've used strong language here on occasion for rhetorical emphasis. Your apology does you credit. :-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/01/2010 9:35 Comments || Top||

#6  While I am against reparations for claimed past detrimental (can't think of a better word) acts, this is somewhat different.

They are suing the entities - the Turkish government and others - who benefited from illegal seizure of property. I am assuming the seizures were illegal under Turkish law at the time, unlike say slavery or removing indigenous people from land in the USA or Australia.

This isn't reparations for the 'genocide', its' suing people for what is in effect benefiting from the proceeds of theft or at least breach of contract.

I recall similar cases in Germany were settled many years ago.
Posted by: phil_b || 08/01/2010 10:13 Comments || Top||

#7  TW, My wife and son will be in Germany, Italy and Albania in the next few weeks. If you see a 6' 3" 14 year old, be sure to introduce yourself. I too have too much work, and my family has been here so long I don't know which country is the old one.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 08/01/2010 10:21 Comments || Top||

#8  I have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, there is no end to the historic grievances one might pursue.

OTOH it brings pressure on the Turkish government regarding their treatment of the Armenians just after they sponsored the attempts to bust the embargo on Hamas.
Posted by: lotp || 08/01/2010 10:23 Comments || Top||

#9  Phil, I agree that property seizure is the basis for the suit and I am sympathetic to that, but when I see class action and California, the only thing missing to make it a pure shakedown is The Justice Brothers, Reverend Jackson and Al Sharpton. It would be interesting to see what is owed to whom and how it will be divided amongst their heirs. All in all, a good opportunity for lawyers to feast on others with little true justice but plenty of vengeance.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 08/01/2010 10:28 Comments || Top||

#10  This logic would give Texas back to the Mexicans and then the rest of the US back to the Indians. Of course it would solidify the Jewish claim on Israel.
Posted by: Glenmore || 08/01/2010 10:54 Comments || Top||

#11  The US does not try non-citizens for criminal acts committed in another jurisdiction.

Need to check how many terror acts committed in foreign countries have resulted in trials and imprisonment in the US. At least the target was usually an American citizen at the time of the act as with Mohamed Rashed Daoud Al-Owhali, and Mohammed Odeh of the 1998 U.S. embassy bombings.

The action here being done "on behalf of all Armenians and Turkish citizens" which were not even US citizens in foreign land when that situation occurred. The point is that as a third party similar to the Spanish, we have no standing in the issue at hand when the act was committed.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 08/01/2010 11:00 Comments || Top||

#12  Criminal acts, not acts of war with action taken without due process.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 08/01/2010 11:33 Comments || Top||

#13  No 'legal' war act till Sept 2001. Actions prior would be ex post facto and thus constitutionally prohibited as based upon 'war'.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 08/01/2010 11:49 Comments || Top||

#14  Seems to me any such action is automaticly void as "Time Barred"?
Way too many years have passed.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 08/01/2010 12:29 Comments || Top||

#15  Thanks trailing wifeI always try to keep it G rated, but sometimes a slip or 2 get the point across better.

I say again with emphasis:

If you agree to this 'compensation' you open the flood gates.
slippery slope.
Everyone got f**ked over by someone at sometime in history.
You cannot right the wrongs of history with legal remedies in the present tense.
Posted by: Mike Hunt || 08/01/2010 17:09 Comments || Top||

#16  Interestingly, the Palestinians have been talking about claims for years for the properties they still hold the front door keys to, in the expectation that Israel will both pay up and let them move back. Last week or so Israel announced that they will be compiling a list of the real property and possessions left behind by the Jews of the Arab/Iranian/North African world when they were fled following the establishment of Israel in 1948 -- for a threatened suit against the governments of the various countries. It is estimated that that the amount will be significantly greater than the Palestinian claim, and the plan is to agree to that claim if the Israeli one is honoured.
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/01/2010 21:09 Comments || Top||

#17  tw - me likee. :-D

*rubs hands with glee*
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 08/01/2010 23:26 Comments || Top||



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