How many Egyptians tortured and repressed by the Mubarek regime?
Unknown.
Turning a nation of 79 million into raging anti-Americans?
Priceless.
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#1
Ah, more from the "it's all America's fault" brigade.
We get peace between Israel and Egypt for our $2 billion. Everyone remember that was Carter's solution to Middle East peace, a gigantic bribe? Of course, we had to bribe Israel, too, for some unknown reason.
#2
No, it's not 'blame America' -- you're being a mite sensitive.
It does point out that long-term support of a thug generally doesn't turn out well for American foreign policy. We all liked the Shah better than the Mad Mullahs, but it would have been smarter for us to find an alternative to both.
Likewise in Egypt, Hosni is preferable to the Muslim Brotherhood, but the people there are both suffering and seriously pissed off -- it would have been much better for us if we had 'option #3' ready to roll out.
Let's hope Egypt doesn't turn seriously anti-American. I think there's a part of Egypt that won't -- we've had some long-term cultural contacts that will help us (tourism, etc). But the Muslim Brotherhood, IF they can seize and consolidate power, is going to be a real problem for us.
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it would have been much better for us if we had 'option #3' ready to roll out
We did.
But apparently the "Salvador Allende Method" never really caught on.
#4
It does point out that long-term support of a thug generally doesn't turn out well for American foreign policy. As long as he's 'our thug' we're OK. When he's 'their thug' it's something else. The population of Thugberg is huge and growing.
#5
The reality is that the problems in Arab countries are structural rather than political at base. Large young and rapidly growing populations for which there are no suitable economic paths to increased middle class prosperity. It's certainly true that Mubarak has been oppressive in many ways. The alternatives are likely to have included either Islamicism of the Taliban sort or constant chaos and instability, neither of which truly address that structural problem satisfactorily.
Note that the Ba'athist platform to which Mubarak was heir included socialism along with Arab nationalism. Wherever it was embraced, however, it seems to have led to strongman rule - Iraq, Syria, Egypt etc.
The PJM Tattler quoted a young Egyptian woman saying she just wanted 'justice' and that it didn't matter whether the new govt was secular or Islamicist. This demonstrates that the emotions contributing to mass protests need not be grounded in a coherent political philosophy - nor in much awareness of the facts of life.
What we got in response to aid to Egypt included years of Mubarak pressuring Hamas and the PLO from the other size of the Gaza strip.
The dirty little secret is that Hosni and the Muslim Brotherhood are in cahoots. Mubarak uses the Muslim brotherhood to scare the West, and then makes sure no other oposition is allowed except the Muslim Brotherhood.
In the run up to the 2005 elections, Mubarak had Ayman Noor (the pro democracy candidate) arrested, tortured and convicted of a bogus crime. This disqualified him from being a candidate ever again.
Mubarak also disqualified non-MB candidates. If anybody wanted to vote against Mubarak, the only choice available was the Muslim Brotherhood.
IT gets worse. Mubarak also arranged beforehand with the MB how the legislature was going to be divided. Whenever the West complains about democracy, the MB's share goes up.
Posted by: Frozen Al ||
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The thing is the US supported dictatorships in South Korea, Tiawan and Greece and they all shifted towards Democracy when they became wealthier. It was worth the investment and temporary overlooking our ideals.
The US supported dictatorships we support in other parts have not gotten wealthy. We need to be realistic and un PC and figure out why that is so and figure out if we can change it.
#8
Turning a nation of 79 million into raging anti-Americans?
Priceless.
Turning? The population has been anti-American since at least 1948. And generically anti-kuffar since Muhammad. Neither Sadat nor Mubarak was kept in power by American aid. It's just that American aid was the price of a Cold Peace with Israel. I think we will find that if we cancel the aid, Egypt will not dissolve into anarchy. The price of canceling the aid, however, will be ceaseless low-level Egyptian attacks on Israel, as existed prior to the Camp David Accords.
I fully understand the logic of the aid. The point was to prevent an uncontrollable escalation into total war* involving the entire Middle East in the event that Egypt's limited attacks spun out of control with Egypt and Israel continuing to ante up. The $2b was cheaper than hundreds of billions of dollars in the event that the US was compelled to come to Israel's rescue with troops and occupation forces for neighboring Arab countries.
* A war that Israel cannot win short of genocide involving tens of millions.
#9
I think there's this mistaken notion that Muslims are slavish followers of temporal authority - that if their governments simply suggested that Jews and Americans were the salt of the earth, that Muslim public opinion would magically follow. In reality, Islamists assassinated Sadat, and have made six attempts on Mubarak's life. The fact is that the Muslim zeitgeist is not any leader's plaything. A Muslim leader who ignores this inconvenient fact by being too friendly with the West is likely to have a very short reign - his anti-Jewish and anti-American propaganda is created to counter rebel propaganda that he is overly pro-semitic and pro-American (i.e. the regime is guilty of treason).
#10
Note that handing American weaponry to Egypt is a feature, not a bug. Modern military equipment requires constant spare parts replenishment - in 1973, Israel would have fallen without the massive logistical effort ordered by Nixon. If the Egyptians had bought Russian weaponry, they could have counted on Russian replenishment in wartime. As it is, only Uncle Sam can replenish Egyptian stocks, meaning that if Egypt does anything the US doesn't like (such as an invasion of Israel), that invasion will be stopped in its tracks due to wear and tear, because we can deny them the parts they need. The (accurate, I think) perception that the US denies resupply for political reasons is why selling US weaponry to India has proven to be an uphill battle.
#11
For $2 billion per year we got 40 years of peace on Israel's southern border. I think that will seem cheap after what we pay in the next 5 years, if things go as badly as I expect.
#12
The dirty little secret is that Hosni and the Muslim Brotherhood are in cahoots. Mubarak uses the Muslim brotherhood to scare the West, and then makes sure no other oposition is allowed except the Muslim Brotherhood.
They're not in cahoots. Mubarak has a Cold Peace with the Islamists because he can't completely finish them off, given that their support is grounded in the existence of a substantial like-minded chunk of the population (and members of the security apparatus). The more he turns up the heat on them, greater the likelihood of additional assassination attempts on him. To survive, he has to ward off every assassination attempt. To kill him, they only have to be successful once.
#13
Note that the Muslim Brotherhood killed Sadat. They've supposedly renounced violence, but that's more of PR maneuver. I'd be surprised if this was anything but a reshuffling of filing cabinets. Does anyone really think that Sinn Fein and the IRA are separate entities? I'm sure the Ikhwan still has its own private army, renamed as something else, not to mention infiltrators or recruits at all levels of the Egyptian security forces (some of whom killed Sadat).
#14
* A war that Israel cannot win short of genocide involving tens of millions.
Of course Israel can win it, all they have to do is let the birds fly. Boom! Killing millions in self defense isn't genocide. And we had damn well better internalize that fact, because our own survival might just require us to let our birds fly.
It doesn't matter from what angle you look at the state of the world today, or how you game it out. Really bad stuff is coming down the line. And things just ain't going to be the same after the festivities.
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Of course Israel can win it, all they have to do is let the birds fly. Boom! Killing millions in self defense isn't genocide. And we had damn well better internalize that fact, because our own survival might just require us to let our birds fly.
Then we have the problem of the deaths of tens of millions of consumers, and a likely total Muslim embargo on American goods, not to mention continuous Muslim attacks on American commercial shipping. Think Somali piracy on a global scale, but with financial and material backing from every Muslim government in the world. Bottom line is that $2b is a small price to pay for a Cold Peace in the Middle East. Because we don't want to end up at war with the entire ummah.
#16
We may not want to end up at war with the entire ummah, but it's not at all clear that a large portion of the ummah doesn't want to end up at war with us. And that's why we'll have to go on receiving attacks of increasing ferocity and effectiveness until the ummah changes its mind or we do. This globe ain't big enough for the two of us.
#17
We may not want to end up at war with the entire ummah, but it's not at all clear that a large portion of the ummah doesn't want to end up at war with us. And that's why we'll have to go on receiving attacks of increasing ferocity and effectiveness until the ummah changes its mind or we do. This globe ain't big enough for the two of us.
We're not at war with the ummah. We do get occasional outbreaks of individual or small groups of zealots engaging in pickup jihad against us, but that's nothing compared to what systematic program of state-sponsored attacks against us could do. There are a lot of disgruntled Muslims on the planet, but they're disgruntled, not at war with us. The ummah's combined nominal GDP is about $5T. If it spent even 0.1% of this fighting Uncle Sam (or drafting individuals for a jihad) in Iraq or Afghanistan, we'd be up to our asses in alligators.
#20
Further, a constant theme of mine is that risk isn't properly priced.
The oil supply risk could well come home to roost very soon. But that is in the longer term wholly a good thing. No more imported oil dependency and the Arabs go back to being camel herders that people care as much about as they do Zaire or Khirgistan.
And as for piracy that is a risk/cost to international trade that has been borne by the British and Americans for 200 years. Enough already.
It now turns out that in 2009, the Egyptian daily Almasry Alyoum reported that President Obama secretly met with representatives of the jihadist Muslim Brotherhood,
#4
At the end of the day you have to figure Mubarik is 80 and doesn't have a successor. Who is gonna be next? Do you fight that and have them hate you (as in Cuba and Iran) or do you try to have it both ways so that they are at least indifferent.
There is also the chance that this was to put pressure on Mubarik who would have known through his own sources.
#5
NS, that "least worst" perspective is HIS not the US's. He wants the radical Mooslimbs to take over as much as possible. That's part of his plan to scuttle the US.
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Oh come on Alan he wants to use NASA as an outreach program
#7
We all knew that Hosni was going to run out of Grecian formula one day, and that his son is a clownfish swimming in a tank of sharks.
Having very quiet meetings with various members of the opposition, therefore, isn't a bad idea.
BUT: you don't have the President run the meeting!
This is a meeting that should be run by CIA operatives, or by embassy personnel, very quiet, all deniable, no recordings, no minutes and no agenda other than to find out what the opposition wants and what they plan to do to get it.
Further, we (the US) should have had these meetings with ALL the various parts of the opposition. If indeed there's a democratic core out there, find it.
Then the diplomats and spooks report back to Washington, and then the President can make a presumably informed decision.
But if Bambi himself was conducting this meeting, it goes beyond mere incompetence to a near god-like hubris.
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"goes beyond mere incompetence to a near god-like hubris"
That's our Bambi!
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First off, folks, let go of any residual suspicion that events injurious to American national interests aren't part of Obama's overall plan. This man spent all his formative years marinating in a stew of postmodern Marxist radicalism, anti-Westernism and anti-Americanism, so why should anyone assume that as president, he wouldn't chart a foreign policy based on magnifying the influences he's absorbed for more than thirty years?
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That was no secret. If Obama screws up this Middle East too, there will be HELL to pay America. If the administrations answer to this is ElBaradei, Congress needs to put cease and desist orders on the President and contain him like North Korea until you have a decent operator at the helm. Other people know what to do in these situations.Omar Suleiman is a fantastic pick for VP. A serious man who does not even want power. Thats an acceptable reform. Also, what ever happened to Noor?
The gist? Anyone can convert to Islam and be accepted as part of the ummah. Except a Jew. The suggestion (true or not) that the Sauds are Jewish in origin is an amusing sideshow.
The Saudi Dynasty:
Where Do They Come From and Who Is their Real Ancestor?
by Muhammad Salaam
Part I
Extracted From Saudhouse.com, Research and Presentation of:
Mohammad Sakher, who was ordered, killed by the Saudi Regime for the following findings:
1. Are the Saudi Family members belonging to the Tribe of Anza ben Wa'el as they allege to be?
2. Is Islam their actual religion?
3. Are they of an Arab Origin at all?
The following facts will blot out all the allegations of the Saudi Family and will refute all the false statements made by those hypocrites who sold their conscience to this family by falsifying and interpolating the real history of the Saudi Family; I mean the Journalists and historians who, for a financial temporal reward, have inserted and attached the genealogy of this family to our Great Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) alleging that the Saudis are viceroys of our Almighty Allah on the Earth. It is quite clear that such a flattery is intended to vindicate and justify the Saudis' Crimes and Atrocities, so as to firmly stabilize their Throne and to prop the pillars of their despotic regime. Which is extremely dictatorial and completely rejected by our great Islamic Faith.
Kingship is accursed in our Islamic Religion, in the Holy Qur'aan, because it is an imposed authority of One Person and his Family members to suppress the people and silence any other voice "of opposition" to the king's despotic and completely dictatorial rules. So kings are denounced in the Holy Qur'aan in this verse: "Kings, when they enter a country, despoil it, and make the noblest of its people the meanest. Thus do they behave." (27-34)
Nevertheless, the Saudi Family ignores this Qur'aanic verse, and alleges falsely that they are the strongest believers in the Holy Qur'aan, while in interim; they issue their strict orders to prohibit such Qur'aanic verses from being recited on the radio's or the TVs. At the same time, such verses are strictly forbidden by them to appear written on any journal, because their recitation or printing does affect their Seat of Majesty!
WHO ARE THESE SAUDIS? WHERE ARE THEY FROM? AND WHAT IS THEIR FINAL GOAL?
The Saudi Family members know perfectly well the Muslims all over the world have already known their real Jewish Origin. Muslims have now known all their bloody past, which was, and still is stuck in the same mire of Brutal Despotism and Atrocity. Presently, they exert their utmost efforts to conceal their Jewish Origin by covering themselves with the cloak of the Islamic Religion, so as to try to keep their real Jewish Ancestry hidden in the dark by connecting their family tree with our Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH).
They forget or ignore that Islam does never give any favorable attention to genealogy or "Family Trees"; it favors and honors indiscriminately all human beings whose actions and words are commensurate with the doctrines of the Holy Qur'aan as confirmed by the following Qur'aanic verse: "O Mankind! We created you from a single (Pair) of a male and female, and made you into nations and tribes, so that you may know each other (not that you may despise each other.) Verily, the most honored by you in the Sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you." (49-13)
Anyone who is iniquitous and blasphemous cannot affiliate him/her self to our great Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) even though he/she may be the closest blood relative to him. Bilal, the Abyssinian slave, who was a faithful Muslim, was much more honored by Islam than Abu Lahab, the pagan, who was the real blood uncle of our Prophet. In Islam there is no Favoritism. Allah sets the degree of comparison in Islam according to the person's piety and not according to his/her worldly status of affiliation to any dynasty.
WHO IS THE REAL ANCESTOR OF THE CLAN OF SAUD?
In the year 851 A.H. a group of men from Al Masaleekh Clan, which was a branch of Anza Tribe, formed a caravan for buying cereals (wheat and corn) and other foodstuff from Iraq, and transporting it back to Najd. The head of that group was a man called Sahmi Bin Hathlool. The caravan reached Basra, where the members of the group went to a cereal merchant who was a Jew, called Mordakhai bin Ibrahim bin Moshe. During their bargaining with that merchant, the Jew asked them: "Where are you from?" They answered: "From Anza Tribe; a Clan of Al Masaleekh." Upon hearing that name, the Jew started to hug so affectionately each on the them saying that he, himself, was also from the clan of Al Masaleekh, but he had come to reside in Basra (Iraq) in consequence to a family feud between his father and some members of Anza Tribe.
After he recounted to them his fabricated narrative, he ordered his servants to load all of the camels with wheat, dates, and tamman; a remarkable deed so generous that astonished the Masaleekh men and aroused their pride to find such an affectionate (cousin) in Iraq-the source of sustenance; they believed each word he said, and, because he was a rich merchant of the food commodities which they were badly in need, they accepted him (even though he was a Jew concealed under the garb of an Arab from Al Masaleekh clan.)
When the caravan was ready to depart returning to Najd, that Jewish merchant asked tem to accept his company, because he intended to go with them to his original homeland, Najd. Upon hearing that from him, they wholeheartedly welcomed him with a very cheerful attitude.
So that (concealed) Jew reached Najd with the caravan. In Najd, he started to promulgate a lot of propaganda for himself through his companions (his alleged cousins), a fact, which gathered around him a considerable number of new supporters. But, unexpectedly, he confronted a campaign of opposition to his views led by Sheikh Saleh Salman Abdullah Al Tamimi, who was a Muslim religious preacher in Al-Qaseem. The radius of his preaching area included Najd, Yemen, and Hijaz, a fact which compelled the Jew (the Ancestor of the present Saud family) to depart from Al Qaseem to Al Ihsa, where he changed his name (Mordakhai) to Markan bin Dir'iya near Al-Qateef, where he started to spread among the inhabitants a fabricated story about the shield of our Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) that it was taken as a booty by an Arab pagan in consequence of the Battle of Uhud between the Arab pagans and the Muslims. "That shield," he said, "was sold by the Arab pagan to a Jewish clan called Banu Qunaiqa who preserved it as a treasure! He gradually enhanced his position among the Bedouins through such stories, which indicated how the Jewish clans in Arabia were so influential, and deserved high esteem. He gained some personal importance among the Bedouins, and decided to permanently settle there, at Dir'iya town, neat Al Qateef, which he decided to be his "Capital" on the Persian Gulf. He aspired to make his springboard for establishing a Jewish Kingdom in Arabia.
In order to fulfill his ambitious scheme, he started to approach the desert Arab Bedouins for support of his position, and then gradually, he declared himself as their king!
At that juncture, Ajaman Tribe, together with Banu Khaled Tribe became fully aware of that Jewish cunning plan after they had verified his true identity, and decided to put an end to him. They attacked his town and conquered it, but before arresting him he had escaped by the skin of his teeth.
That Jewish ancestor of the Saudi Family, Mordakhai, sought shelter in a farm at that time called Al-Malibeed-Ghusaiba near Al-Arid, which is called at our present time Al-Riyadh.
He requested the owner of that farm to grant him asylum. The farmer was so hospitable that he immediately gave him sanctuary. But no longer than a month had he (Mordakhai) stayed there, when he assassinated the landlord and all members of his family, pretending that they were killed by an invading band of thieves. Then he pretended that he had bought that real estate from them before that catastrophe happened to them! Accordingly, he had the right to reside there as a landlord. He then gave a new name to that place: Al-Diriya-the same name as that he had lost.
That Jewish ancestor (Mordakhai) of the Saudi Family, was able to establish a "Guest House" called "Madaffa" on the land he usurped from his victims, and gathered around him a group of hypocrites who started to spread out false propaganda for him that he was a prominent Arab Sheikh. He plotted against Sheikh Saleh Salman Abdulla Al Tamimi, his original enemy, and caused his assassination in the mosque of the town called Al-Zalafi.
After that, he felt satisfied and safe to make Al-Diriya his permanent home. There he practiced polygamy at a wide scale, and indeed, he begot a lot of children whom he gave pure Arab names.
Ever since his descendants grew up in number and power under the same name of Saudi Clan, they have followed his steps in practicing underground activities and conspiracies against the Arab nation. They illegally seized rural sectors and farmlands and assassinated every person who tried to oppose their evil plans. They used all kinds of deceit for reaching their goals; they bought the conscience of their dissidents; they offered their women and money to influential people in that area, particularly those who started to write the true biography of that Jewish family; they bribed the writers of history in order to purify their ignominious history, and to make their lineage related to the most prominent Arab tribes such as Rabi'a, Anza, and Al Masaleekh.
A conspicuous hypocrite in our era, whose name is Mohammad Amin Al Tamimi-Director/Manager of the contemporary Libraries of the Saudi Kingdom, made up a genealogical tree (family tree) for this Jewish family (the Saudis), connecting them to our Great Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). For his false work, he received a reward of 35 thousand Egyptian pounds from the then Saudi Ambassador to Cairo, Egypt, in the year 1362 A.H.-1943 A.D. The name of that Ambassador is Ibrahim Al-Fadel.
As aforementioned, the Jewish ancestor of the Saudi family, (Mordakhai), practiced polygamy by marrying a lot of Arab women and begot many children; his polygamous practice is, at the present time, being carried out "to the letter" by his descendants; they cling to his martial heritage!
One of Mordakhai's sons called Al-Maraqan, arabized from the Jewish root Mack-ren, begot a son called Mohammad, then another son called Saud, which is the name of the present day Saudi Dynasty.
Descendants of Saud (the present day Saudi Family) started a campaign of assassination of the prominent leaders of the Arab Tribes under the pretence that those leaders were apostates; renegading from the Islamic Religion, and deserting their Qur'aanic doctrines; so they deserved the Saudi condemnation and slaughter!
In the history book of the Saudi Family pages 98-101, their private family historian declares that the Saudi dynasty considers all people of Najd blasphemous, so their blood must be shed, their properties confiscated, and their females taken as concubines; no Muslim is authentic in his/her belief unless he/she belongs (affiliates) to the sect of Mohammad bin Abdul Wahab (whose origins are also Jewish from Turkey.) His doctrines give authority to the Saudi Family to destroy villages with all their inhabitants - males including children, and to sexually assault their women; stab the bellies of the pregnant, and cut off the hands of their children, then burn them! They are further authorized by such a brutal doctrine to plunder all the properties of which they call renegades (not following their Wahabi sect.)
Their hideous Jewish family has, in fact, done all that kind of atrocities in the name of their false religious sect (the Wahabi), which has actually been invented by a Jew so as to sow the seeds of terror in the hearts if people in towns and villages. This Jewish Dynasty has been committing such brutal atrocities ever since 1163 A.H. They have named the whole Arabian Peninsula after their family name (Saudi Arabia) as if the whole region is their own personal real estate, and that all other inhabitants are their mere servants or slaves, toiling day and night for the pleasure of their masters (The Saudi Family.)
They are completely holding the natural wealth of the country as their own property. If any poor person from the common people raises his/her voice complaining against any of the despotic rules of this Jewish Dynasty, the Dynasty cuts off his/her head in the public square. A princess of theirs once visited Florida, USA, with her retinue; she rented 90 (ninety) Suite rooms in a Grand Hotel for about One Million dollars a night! Can anyone of her subjects comment about that extravagant event? If he/she does, his/her fate is quite known: DEATH WITH THE EDGE OF THE SAUDI SWORD IN THE PUBLIC SQUARE!!!!!
WITNESSES ON THE JEWISH ANCESTRY OF THIS SAUDI FAMILY:
In the 1960's the "Sawt al Arab " Broadcasting Station in Cairo, Egypt, and the Yemen Broadcasting Station in Sana'a confirmed the Jewish ancestry of the Saudi family.
King Faisal Al-Saud at that time could not deny his family's kindred with the Jews when he declared to the Washington Post on Sept.17, 1969 stating: "We, the Saudi Family, are cousins of the Jews: we entirely disagree with any Arab or Muslim Authority which shows any antagonism to Jews; but we must live together with them in peace. Our country (Arabia) is the fountain head from where the first Jew sprang, and his descendants spread out all over the world." That was the declaration of King Faisal Al-Saud bin Abdul Aziz!!!
Hafez Wahbi, the Saudi legal advisor, mentioned in his book titled "The Peninsula of Arabia" that King Abdul Aziz A-Saud, who died in 1953, had said: "Our message (Saudi Massage) encountered the opposition of all Arab Tribes. My grandfather, Saud Awal, once imprisoned a number of the Sheikhs of Matheer Tribe; and when another group of the same tribe came to intercede for the release of the prisoners, Saud Awal gave orders to his men to cut off the heads of all the prisoners, then, he wanted to humiliate and derogate the interceders by inviting them to eat from a banquet he prepared from the cooked flesh of his victims whose cut off heads he place in the top of the food platters! The interceders became so alarmed and declined to eat the flesh of their relatives, and, because of their refusal to eat, he ordered his men to cut off their heads too. That hideous crime was committed by that self imposed king to innocent people whose guilt was their opposition to his most cruel and extremely despotic rules.
Hafez Wahbi states further that King Abdul Aziz Al-Saud related that bloody true story to the Sheikhs of the Matheer Tribs, who visited him in order to intercede for their prominent leader at that time, Faisal Al Darweesh, who was the king's prisoner. He related that story to them in order to prevent them from interceding for the release of their Sheikh; otherwise, they would meet the same fate; he killed the Sheikh and used his blood as an ablution liquid from him just before he stood up for his prayer (after the false sect doctrine of the Wahabi). The guilt of Faisal Darweesh at that time was that he had criticized King Abdul Aziz Al-Saud when the king signed the document which the English Authorities prepared in 1922 as a declaration for giving Palestine to the Jews; his signature was obtained in the conference held at Al Aqeer in 1922.
That was and still is the system of this regime of the Jewish family) (Saudi Family). All its goals are: plundering the wealth of the country, robbing, falsifying, and committing all kinds of atrocity, iniquity, and blasphemy - all are executed in compliance with their self invented Wahabi Sect which legalizes the chopping of the heads of their opposing subjects
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#1
Lots of uncorroborated anecdotes about medieval cruelty in here that seem to be plucked straight out of a passage from the Arabian Nights. I want to blame the propagandists for being serial exaggerators, but I suspect this is what the Muslim world expects from propaganda - anything less strange doesn't hit the spot. This is why 9/11 conspiracy theories have such currency in the Muslim world. On the one hand, they want to gloat about it being a great victory for Islam, and the other, they want to blame it on American instigators. The problem is that propagandists who don't come up with crazy theories aren't taken seriously, so they pile on the lunacy until the desired audience acceptance rate is achieved.
#1
This is a stupid column. The guy is all over the place. I sure wish there was an excerpt posted here instead of just a blank "who knows what you're going to get" link.
#2
An excerpt in this case wouldn't have captured the gist nor the flavor of that column, the author of which is not as well known as other posters at that site. Fortunately, one only need click a single link to read the whole thing.
The secret to instant wealth is to spot a mass delusion and bet against it. The Tulip Craze. Florida swamp land. Global warming. Mad Cow. The Chevy Volt (electric cars). ZeroCare. Bee Colony Collapse disease. Flesh-eating bacteria. Flu virus.
Making money from liberal delusions: "The nonprofit sector". Bernie Madoff's Ponzi scheme on liberal charities. The 'racism' industry. Fannie and Freddie. GE and the guvmint. The Green Movement and 'green' industries. Environmental regulation. Regulation in general.
"Liberal gullibility is the most biggest resource in the world. All you have to do is spot the latest crazes and place your bets the other way. In the long run, you can't lose, because reality always wins in the end. The only question is when those bubbles will pop."
#6
Tipper never bothers to post even a brief quote from posted links. I don't follow them as I won't have my time wasted.
Excalibur, I love people who make broad statements. I'd love to tell you why, but I won't. Let's just say it's an excellent method of assessing people.
#7
Tipper, while I'm not going to go upside your head as Excalibur did, I will say a little lead-in does help with getting oriented as to what the link might be.
Yours are usually pretty good, so I'm not complaining, just saying.
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The 'Burg is kind of a DIY project. Any commenter is free to post a summary of the article or quote excerpts once it has been posted. This means you.
Translation of an article published in Al-Hayat called "Final Part: Sidelined from the war in Afghanistan, Al-Qaeda leads a battle for the Globalization of Jihad from Waziristan."
Uh, uh, THE EXORCIST = THE RITE = "the Power of DELI/DAGWOODS compells you ...".
Gut nuthin.
"Globalization of Jihad" > Yep, yes sir, you betcha.
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ARTIC = Roughly 1/2 of CAIRO, EGYPT's 18.0MILYUHN population are YOUNG PEOPLE UNDER AGE 30. A similar Percentage of Egypt's national population live on only USD$2.0 a day or less.
IFF Official MASSOD AHMED = REGIONAL EMPLOYMENT POOL may have Education but lack many of the Skills needed for the GLOBAL ECONOMY.
IIUC, Egyptian Society = Arab-Muslim Societies = RIGIDLY STRATIFIED between a handful of [corrupt, dynastic] Ruling Elites, a small Middle Class, + mostly Food, Poverty-stricken Underclass. SURVIVAL OF VIABLE MIDEAST LIBERATRIAN = SECULAR DEMOCRACY DEPENDS OF THESE SOCIETIES DEV A LARGER + POTENT MIDDLE-CLASS = PRO-CAPITALIST/MATERIALIST "UNIVERSAL" PRIVATE-SECTOR, + away from traditional Govt-centric Autocracy, Oligarchy, + Kleptocracy, etc.???
OTHERWISE ....
To wit,
* DAILY TIMES.PK > [MQM Chief ALTAF HUSSAIN] ALTAF: REVOLUTION HAS BECOME THE THE FUTURE OF THE COUNTRY.
Pakistan = AFPAK???
* FOX NEWS AM > LOS ANGELES ANTI-MUBARAK PROTESTOR > opined that Egyptian riots are about [Egypt-specific] DEMOCRACY.
& VARIOUS NETTERS > opine that the MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD = RADICLA ISLAM may not had been involved or initiated these riots, BUT THE US-WEST/ALLIES SHOULD NOT UNDERESTIMATE THEIR ABILITY TO USE THE RIOTS AS COVER TO BOTH PROMOTE THE ISLAMIST AGENDA + GOVT. POWER-SHARING [aka "Political Jihad"] whereupon anti-Islamist elements in future will be pushed out or otherwise eliminated from any role or position in Public Govt.
E.g. MENSHEVIKS-VS-BOLSHEVIKS, LENIN/STALIN-VS-TROTSKY in POST-TSARIST/ROMANOV RUSSIA.
A multi-volume chronology and reference guide set detailing three years of the Mexican Drug War between 2010 and 2012.
Rantburg.com and borderlandbeat.com correspondent and author Chris Covert presents his first non-fiction work detailing
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Chris gives us Mexican press dispatches of drug and gang war violence
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