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-Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
Michael Yon: Tyndall Air Force Base Destroyed
[Twitter Michael Yon]


Posted by: 3dc || 10/15/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Doesn't seem like the best location for an AF base in the first place. And why would aircraft have been left there - plenty of notice a major storm was heading right at it - we always moved our offshore helicopter fleet out of the way of storms.
Posted by: Glenmore || 10/15/2018 1:58 Comments || Top||

#2  Hard to get pilots to fly out when their families take first priority "getting out of Dodge".
Posted by: Cleatle Lover of the Brontosaurs6269 || 10/15/2018 3:49 Comments || Top||

#3  Those aircraft that rode out the storm were not flyable.
Posted by: Zenobia Clart9643 || 10/15/2018 4:13 Comments || Top||

#4 
Posted by: Thregum Greath3827 || 10/15/2018 6:40 Comments || Top||

#5  Someone general officers need to be fired if operational aircraft were lost.

BTW, welcome to the NIMBY state. We have Holloman and Cannon AFB facilities available in New Mexico. They also just stood down the NMNG F16 wing at Kirtland AFB. One is qualified for supersonic training. No major environmental threats to either.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/15/2018 7:25 Comments || Top||

#6  Doesn't seem like the best location for an AF base in the first place.

Good golf courses.
Also first line of defense against a Cuban assault.
Posted by: Skidmark || 10/15/2018 12:26 Comments || Top||

#7  Best Location? How many days a year is that spot rated for "Unrestricted Flying Days"? How close to transportation routes/population centers to allow it to be convenient to operate?

In Central Oklahoma the number, IIRC, of days per year was 360+ and the services clustered a series of training installations around Oklahoma City in World War 2 -- Despite the ever present Severe Tornado Threat™!
Posted by: magpie || 10/15/2018 12:32 Comments || Top||

#8  What *boggles* my mind is the fact that a F-22 could be damage in its hangar -- Why wasn't some senior USAF NCO directed to personally improvise a "defense in place" and allowed to scavenge whatever it takes to wrap each non-flying bird in enough plywood, sandbags and bubble wrap to survive a nuclear blast?
Posted by: magpie || 10/15/2018 12:36 Comments || Top||

#9  I take it the base doesn't have any hardened hangers at all? I would think that any air force base should at least be prepared to fulfill it's actual purpose in war time, ie having defenses in place to protect it and static defenses against air or arty threats.
Posted by: Silentbrick || 10/15/2018 14:34 Comments || Top||

#10  Considering all the agony the military went through in the BRAC process a few years ago, you would think that someone would have asked about hurricane/tornado/earthquake exposure in deciding which bases to close. I really want to hear the explanation behind this catastrophe.
Posted by: Matt || 10/15/2018 15:20 Comments || Top||

#11  Before Andrew the only planes left were hanger queens. We're talking commerical and military.Anything that could fly was moved elsewhere, If air worthy planes where indeed left behind somebody's head should roll. It is not like the panhandle doesn't get hurricanes.
Homestead AFB was written of after Andrew , IIRC Senator Hollingsworth determined that the pentagon better not close bases in SC that where on the chopping block when they could replace the need to rebuild Homestead. The only irreplacable bit of aviation history destroyed was a Snark missile that was a static Welcome to Homestead display. When the AF historians arrived to see if they could salvage it for restoration it had already been bulldozed into a tidy pile of debris.
Posted by: Thrise Shomble3667 || 10/15/2018 16:47 Comments || Top||

#12  Hopefully their parts will enable other planes to fly.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 10/15/2018 17:35 Comments || Top||

#13  The news media are drama queens. In the absence (or presence)of information, they make shit up.

It's going to take days to survey the damage and determine if any airframes are write-offs. Even longer to estimate the repair bill.
Posted by: Chesney Grundy6501 || 10/15/2018 17:54 Comments || Top||

#14  #7 now that you mention it, OKC is where forecasting started because of the destruction at Tinker.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/15/2018 19:33 Comments || Top||


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German Press Reveals Saudi Spook Saga Behind Khashoggi Disappearance
[PJ - Spengler] Germany's leading right-of-center daily Die Welt this morning reveals that Jamal Khashoggi was not a journalist, but a high-level operative for the Saudi intelligence service, an intimate of Osama bin Laden, and the nephew of the shadiest of all Arab arms dealers, the infamous Adnan Khashoggi. John Bradley reported last week in the Spectator that Khashoggi, who allegedly met a grisly end in a Saudi consulate in Istanbul, was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, the Islamist organization that among other things wants to replace the Saudi monarchy with a modern Islamist totalitarian state.

So much for the whining in the Establishment media about freedom of the press and protection of the rights of journalists. The presumed-dead Khashoggi was a top-level spook who swore fealty to some of the Arab world's nastiest elements, and who played a high-stakes game in Saudi spookdom. We don't know why he disappeared, but we know what we don't know.

Among other things, we know that Khashoggi was bitterly opposed to the new Saudi government's rapprochement with the state of Israel. As a Muslim Brotherhood member, he backed Palestinian intransigence.
Posted by: Frank G || 10/15/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [13 views] Top|| File under: Muslim Brotherhood

#1  My understanding is that Mexican journalists get whacked whenever they discover facts that are inconvenient to the ruling class. In fact, journalism is an extremely dicey business in all kinds of countries. Our media never says boo about it. But let one WAPO stringer get whacked by the Soddies and all of sudden it's a real big deal. Could it be this whole kerfuffle is merely a case of WAPO attempting to embarrass Trump?
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 10/15/2018 12:42 Comments || Top||

#2  Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying it's OK to whack journalists. I'm just saying that Soddy Arabia is not the only country in the world where there is no freedom of the press. Just think what might happen to a Chinese reporter if he wrote anything the least bit embarrassing to Xi Jinping...not to mention the head of Interpol.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 10/15/2018 12:49 Comments || Top||

#3  And why is it not OK to whack journalists?
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 10/15/2018 15:53 Comments || Top||

#4  I've a suspicion it's the Turks behind all this, with an alternative possibility of Iranians.

I wonder if we'll ever know for sure.
Posted by: charger || 10/15/2018 18:25 Comments || Top||

#5  #2 about Xi Jinping and Chinese reporters...the Google and Facebook crowd would be in 5th gear supporting the regime.
Posted by: DooDahMan || 10/15/2018 21:28 Comments || Top||


Trump goes where few feared to tread with the Magic KIngdom.
[A twitter tweet by Wretchard]


Wretchard said this in another Tweet: "There are no good guys in Saudi Arabia, just bad guys and worse guys. This, after all, is a country ruled by a family, and its family politics often recall Game of Thrones."
Posted by: 3dc || 10/15/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [10 views] Top|| File under:

#1  An interesting tweet line here at this link
Posted by: 3dc || 10/15/2018 0:21 Comments || Top||

#2  We might be energy independent, but *sigh* our worthless "allies" in Europe sure aren't. They need Middle East oil, and we will go to war on their behalf to secure it for them.

All the while they protest and demand we baby-killing monsters go home. Ungrateful jerks.
Posted by: Herb McCoy || 10/15/2018 1:38 Comments || Top||

#3  Do you mean "where many fear to tread" or "where few are willing to tread"?
Posted by: charger || 10/15/2018 18:26 Comments || Top||

#4  German Press Reveals Saudi Spook Saga Behind Khashoggi Disappearance
Posted by: Anomalous Sources || 10/15/2018 19:03 Comments || Top||



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  Jihadist rebels reinforce front-lines near Idlib buffer zone, no withdrawal
Sun 2018-10-14
  4 ISIS militants blown up by own explosives in Kunar province
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  Indian troops kill key Kashmiri fighter in Handwara siege
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  Easing frayed ties, Turkish court allows US pastor to go free
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