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-Short Attention Span Theater-
Meshaal acquiring a room temp?
Just rumors for now.
Posted by: Spike Uniter || 06/12/2008 10:28 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Fifth Column
British MP George Galloway to Hamas TV: I Pray for Obama's Safety
British MP George Galloway to Hamas TV: I Pray for Obama's Safety; Come November, Arab "Puppet Presidents and Corrupt Kings May Discover That the Ground Has Moved Under Their Feet, Allah Willing"

Following is an interview with British MP George Galloway, which aired on Al-Aqsa TV on May 2, 2008.

To view this clip.

To view the MEMRI TV page on Al-Aqsa TV.

"I Pray For the Safety of Barack Obama, And I Pray That He Can Shift the U.S.'s Attitude"

George Galloway: "I hope that the new presidency in the United States... I pray for the safety of Barack Obama, and I pray that he can shift the United States' attitude to this question. But as you know, Palestine cannot free itself. It is a small country against a huge superpower. The real problem is not in Palestine. It's not even in London or Washington. The real problem is in the Arab world. From Marrakesh to Bahrain - 300 million Arabs, oil at $136 per barrel... If the Arabs wanted to solve this Palestine problem, they could do so in six days.[...]"

"These Puppet Presidents and Corrupt Kings May Discover That the Ground Has Moved Under Their Feet, Allah Willing"

"The Americans are not in a position to intervene anywhere in the Arab world, because they have been defeated by the muqawama [resistance] in Iraq. And so, sunk in this swamp in Iraq and in Afghanistan, the U.S. is no longer able to assist its puppets in the Middle East. So as we come towards the November elections, and the real prospect of a significant victory for Obama, everyone will have to re-find their footing, and these puppet presidents and corrupt kings may discover that the ground has moved under their feet, Allah willing.[...]"

"So We Have To Change the Policy of the United States, Through Our Work in Europe, Through a Change in the Attitude, Or a Change of the Leaders of the Arab World"

"I think there are important changes coming in Israel also. Olmert may be in prison by the weekend. He may be replaced by the foreign minister or by Barak. He may be replaced, God forbid, by Netanyahu. I don't believe the key lies in Tel Aviv. Israel is not an independent country. It must act under the orders of the United States, which provides every bullet and every dollar.

"So we have to change the policy of the United States, through our work in Europe, through a change in the attitude, or a change of the leaders of the Arab world, to show the United States that it must change its policy in the region. After all, if the United States can take everything she wants from the Arabs, and still follow a policy of cutting throats of the Arabs - why to change? If you can have whatever you want, and do whatever you want - well, why to change?"
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 06/12/2008 03:35 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Yes, I pray that assassins will ignore Obama and direct their efforts toward more appropriate targets.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 06/12/2008 5:40 Comments || Top||

#2  If Obama nominates Kucinich, he guaranteed to be safe.
Posted by: badanov || 06/12/2008 6:08 Comments || Top||

#3  This guy should be locked in the Tower of London for treason!
Posted by: Mad Eye Phush6023 || 06/12/2008 6:14 Comments || Top||

#4  The question is---to whom does he pray?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 06/12/2008 7:51 Comments || Top||

#5  The question is---to whom does he pray?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 06/12/2008 7:52 Comments || Top||

#6  The question is---to whom does he pray?

That is the question, isn't it? AFAIK, he married a muslim wiman, ergo, he's a muslim himself, even if only nominally. Anyway, he's bought and paid for, for sure, by the baasists & assorted riff-raffs, but I think he's also on the other side by conviction. what's funny is that he's a leftist, but I find so many similarities in his declarations with those of the red-brown part of the french far-right, which has the same love for mustachied arab dictators, and the same hatred for the joooooooos and the USA.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 06/12/2008 8:22 Comments || Top||

#7  When does the Right wake up and start shooting?
Posted by: Hellfish || 06/12/2008 9:28 Comments || Top||

#8  So who's bankrolling Georgie's greasy ass these days?
Posted by: tu3031 || 06/12/2008 9:50 Comments || Top||

#9  Love the graphic. Quisling, isn't it?
Posted by: mojo || 06/12/2008 10:59 Comments || Top||

#10  I'm praying to Cthulhu for George's "safety."

Buwahahaha!
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 06/12/2008 11:51 Comments || Top||

#11  If the Arabs wanted to solve this Palestine problem, they could do so in six days.[...]" Umm, George, the Arabs tried that in 1967. Remember the "six days war"? Syria, Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Algeria, Kuwait and Jordan. They all got their asses handed to them.
Posted by: Rambler in California || 06/12/2008 12:10 Comments || Top||

#12  AC -- yes, Cthulhu Saves... in case he gets hungry later...
Posted by: Querent || 06/12/2008 13:09 Comments || Top||

#13  I'm praying to Cthulhu for George's "safety."

Buwahahaha!
Posted by Atomic Conspiracy


May Galloway always have fire ants in his pantz.

The Call of Gallowayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Posted by: RD || 06/12/2008 14:32 Comments || Top||

#14  I fail to understand how this guy isn't in jail for Food for Oil yet.
Posted by: Mizzou Mafia || 06/12/2008 16:23 Comments || Top||

#15  Has the Cthulhu for President '08 pack come out yet? “Why vote for the lesser of two evils?”
Posted by: Eric Jablow || 06/12/2008 21:17 Comments || Top||

#16  MP Galloway married a Muslim Palestinian woman. I seem to recall that she was a niece or something of Yasser Arafat. I believe she divorced him for being an idiot. I would think Mr Galloway would have transferred his loyalties to Iran, being as they're (hopefully) the next target, and thus worth being noisily supportive of, now that the Palestinians are demonstrating their complete inability as a people to act human.
Posted by: trailing wife || 06/12/2008 22:48 Comments || Top||


Great White North
A Deafening Silence in Canada
By David Warren

The pen is reputed to be mightier than the sword -- and probably is, over the longer stretches of history. Over the shorter stretches, the sword is definitive; or, as that great Leftist sage, Mao Tse-Tung, expressed it: "Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun." With its monopoly on power, the State is equipped to suppress the truth. And yet the truth will not die, no matter how many people are punished for expressing it. They may die -- or be imprisoned, fined, compelled to publicly recant, or otherwise silenced and humiliated -- but the truth will survive.

Yes, this is a statement of my Catholic faith. But it is also a candid reflection on all of the history I have read: that political power passes away, that truths about God and man resurface, that human freedom is never fully extinguished. Much of the history we know may itself be false, owing to the disappearance of evidence over time; and justice in this world may not be availing. Yet in broad outline, a time always comes when we may review the past, freed from the shackles of the past. The chains of history always rust away.

This is a point worth recalling, as we head into a period in Canada when, owing to malice from an ideological camp, to cowardice on the part of our elected representatives, and to indifference on the part of the people, free speech and freedom of the press will disappear in Canada. Those who deviate from the officially-sanctioned lies of "political correctness" will emigrate, perhaps mostly to USA, or experience that peculiar form of internal exile -- of enforced silence -- that good men have shared in many times and places.

My own political education was provided in part by several impressive Czech exiles from Communism, with whom I fell in as a young man. What I learned from them is that under an ideological regime, the best men live in jail, or are assigned to work in tanneries and collieries, where other good men may be found. The worst men live in luxury and power.

As free speech disappears in Canada, one looks for instance not at the more celebrated cases of Mark Steyn and Ezra Levant, but at the much less publicized fate of e.g. Rev. Stephen Boisson, convicted by an Alberta kangaroo court ("human rights tribunal") last November for publicly expressing the Christian and Biblical view of homosexuality, on the say-so of an anti-Christian activist from his home town.

Rev. Boisson has now been ordered to desist from communicating his views on this subject "in newspapers, by email, on the radio, in public speeches, or on the Internet" so long as he should live. He has been ordered to pay compensation to Darren Lund, the anti-Christian activist in question, and further to make a public recantation of beliefs he still holds.

Meanwhile, Fr Alphonse de Valk, editor of the magazine Catholic Insight, is being prosecuted by a gay rights activist in Edmonton, for having upheld both sides of the Catholic teaching on homosexuality in the pages of his magazine over more than a decade: that homosexual behaviour is sinful, but that we are nevertheless to love the sinner.

That case, in which, as ever, all of the expenses of the complainant are met by the taxpayer, will drag on for some time before the inevitable guilty verdict is delivered, and the punishments to Fr de Valk and his colleagues are meted out. While the case drags on, the small magazine, which exists without state subsidies or significant advertising, on the dime of its several thousand loyal Catholic readers, is being driven towards bankruptcy by the cost of maintaining its own legal defence. These are costs they would not be eligible to recover, even if they won at tribunal.

Fr de Valk has written a lead editorial in the June number of Catholic Insight that should be read not only from the pulpit to every practising Catholic in Canada, but by every concerned Canadian regardless of his religious or political affiliations. It is entitled, "Fascism has come to Canada," and mentions several other major cases in which Christians have been hauled before the country's "human rights" tribunals, and ordered to abandon their beliefs, pay out to complainants, stage public recantations, submit to indoctrination, etc. -- with little to no media coverage. Alas, there are more cases (they are multiplying quickly), and the "human rights" commissars are not the only source of state persecution.

Among the spookiest aspects of these cases is the silence over, and indifference to them, on the part of journalists whose predecessors imagined themselves vigilant in the cause of freedom. As I've learned first-hand through email, many Canadian journalists today take the view that, "I don't like these people, therefore I don't care what happens to them." It is a view that, at best, is extremely short-sighted.
Posted by: ryuge || 06/12/2008 05:49 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  American journalists are the same.
Look at the MSM treatment of Randy Weaver, the Branch Davidians and the assault on the compound, and the more recent FLDS raid.
One reporter said, regarding the Weaver situation, "He was such an unpleasant individual, we didn't bother to look at it."
Posted by: Richard Aubrey || 06/12/2008 7:59 Comments || Top||

#2  The most astounding vacating of the principle of "the people's right to know" was in the case of the Danish Mohammed cartoons - which hardly any of our gutless main-stream media dared to print. Imagine, that us stupid proles might actually want to see the cartoons that Moslem gangs were howling about.
Now, every time I hear one of these fearless press paladins bleating about our right to know, and the responsibility of the press... I laugh and laugh and laugh!
Posted by: Sgt. Mom || 06/12/2008 8:09 Comments || Top||

#3  So religions oppose homosexuality, and condemnation of same is an article of faith. Homosexuals have every right to counter said article, but the state interferes with religion when they protect the homosexual lifestyle from moral scrutiny. In Europe, Christians are being hit with huge fines for pro-family acts, while Muslims are free to call for the extermination of gays.
Posted by: McZoid || 06/12/2008 9:33 Comments || Top||

#4  ...owing to malice from an ideological camp, to cowardice on the part of our elected representatives, and to indifference on the part of the people, free speech and freedom of the press will disappear in Canada.

The giant sucking sound silence up north. It could happen in the U.S. too but with slightly more difficulty.
Posted by: JohnQC || 06/12/2008 12:31 Comments || Top||

#5  "For tyranny to succeed it is only necessary for a few good men to remain silent." Could someone help me find the author of that qoute. I have been using it in my Religion classes and can't remember who said it.
Posted by: WolfDog || 06/12/2008 12:32 Comments || Top||

#6  Edmund Burke?
Posted by: JohnQC || 06/12/2008 12:38 Comments || Top||

#7  Orwell
Posted by: Punky Jarong9657 || 06/12/2008 14:38 Comments || Top||

#8  Here's a quote better than the Mao one in the article.

"The man who said the pen is mightier than the sword obviously never experienced automatic weapons"__ D.MacArthur
Posted by: Joluse Fillmore6049 || 06/12/2008 14:40 Comments || Top||

#9  Sorry, it was Burke.

I was thinking of the one about "a few rough men willing to do violence"
Posted by: Punky etc || 06/12/2008 14:41 Comments || Top||

#10  The truly scary thing is that this is happening under a Conservative government with Harper as PM. If it's this bad under the Conservatives, what's going to happen the next time the Libs get in?
Posted by: Thaimble Scourge of the Pixies4707 || 06/12/2008 17:59 Comments || Top||

#11  #5: "For tyranny to succeed it is only necessary

Slight misquote
English philosopher Edmund Burke said, ‘The only thing necessary for the triumph [of evil] is for good men to do nothing.’
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 06/12/2008 19:19 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
WaPo: Bush “substantiated by intelligence” -
Original piece :
'Bush Lied'? If Only It Were That Simple.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 06/12/2008 12:50 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Bush lied. It is surprising how many people bought this. The left learned long ago what Goebbels knew. Tell the lie often enough and people will begin to accept it as the truth.
Posted by: JohnQC || 06/12/2008 14:50 Comments || Top||

#2  JQC, remember that Goebbels and Adolf were lefties too. "National Socialism" ring a bell?

My comments on what I'd like to see happen to Democrats in general and Democratic Congresscritters in particular would surely get me sinktrapped, so I'll refrain from voicing them.
Posted by: Thaimble Scourge of the Pixies4707 || 06/12/2008 18:08 Comments || Top||


The Left's Fairy Tale
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 06/12/2008 11:02 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


India-Pakistan
Kiyani rules Pakistan
By G Parthasarathy

A defiant President Pervez Musharraf frontally took on his critics in a wide-ranging Press conference on May 7, rejecting widespread public demand for an inquiry on the Kargil fiasco, defending his policies and his handling of the judiciary and vowing that he would not yield to demands that he should quit. But the embattled President knows that he has reached the twilight of his controversial career and that it is only a question of time before he, like the proverbial "Lone Ranger", would have to "ride into the sunset". The squabbling politicians now ruling Pakistan are already daggers drawn on how to deal with Gen Musharraf, but are not able to decide how they can get rid of him, while simultaneously protecting their own personal interests and political turf.

Even as the political soap opera between Gen Musharraf and the politicians is played out, it is apparent that real power behind the scenes is wielded by the country's Army chief, Gen Ashfaq Parvez Kiyani, with the Army having been proclaimed as the protector of Pakistan's "ideological frontiers" by Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani. Gen Kiyani, who recently had three hour long midnight meeting with the besieged Gen Musharraf, is consolidating his position as the country's ultimate arbiter. Even supporters of Mr Nawaz Sharif acknowledge that while Gen Kiyani will not interfere in the President being eased out in a constitutional and graceful manner by parliamentary action, the Army will not countenance its former chief being humiliated. Mr Sharif cannot, after all, forget that when the personal vendetta between him and the then crusty old President Ghulam Ishaq Khan got out of hand, the then Army chief, Gen Abdul Waheed Kakar, forced both the President and the Prime Minister to resign on July 18, 1993.
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Pak army and the jihadi's second coming
By Sushant Sareen

Pakistan Army has two kinds of officers: nationalist jihadis and Islamist jihadis," says Arif Jamal, a Pakistani scholar at Harvard University and author of the forthcoming book 'Shadow War: the untold story of Jihad in Kashmir'.

According to him, the nationalist jihadis would like nothing better than to snatch Jammu and Kashmir [Images] from India and see India break up. The Islamist jihadis, on the other hand, hate all infidels. They consider the United States as the bigger enemy and see India as a sideshow which can be taken on after they have vanquished the 'Great Satan'. Arif believes that the Islamists are on the ascendant and will eventually replace the nationalist jihadists.
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Posted by: john frum || 06/12/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  At least the world knows now that Pakistan are the troublemakers in this region and decent nations should support India and Afghanistan against the hatefulness of nations like pakistan and Iran!!!!
Posted by: Mad Eye Phush6023 || 06/12/2008 6:22 Comments || Top||

#2  Read mainstream media accounts of this S%$#. Nobody is prepared to admit that Pakistan, Iran and Saudi Arabia are using the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan to push the surrenderist candidacy of BHO. Our "allies" intended to use the SOFA deal and the post-opium harvest jihad, to engineer pre-election chaos, to make it appear that American power is a scam. Somebody wrote yesterday that we may have to suspend SOFA by reviving the UN role; that mentality rewards Ayatollah interference in Iraq.

A few days ago, the Wall Street Journal attacked Bush for his low key gift of US nuke technology to the Saud terrorist state. I have been reading the Journal for 30 years. When they attack a GOP candidate during a presidential campaign, they are writing off his presidency, in favor of the current candidate. McCain has already signalled an intent to distance himself from the current administration. Those who treat the SOFA surrenders as a noble effort, stab McCain in the back. What do the current polls say? Obama 47%; McCain 41%. Let's get real on the alliance with Karzai's heroin mafia, and the Ayatollah player pianos in the Iraq parliament.
Posted by: McZoid || 06/12/2008 9:27 Comments || Top||


International-UN-NGOs
"High Noon" is the Key to Understanding US Foreign Policy
Posted by: Elmomosing Thromoper9706 || 06/12/2008 14:11 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This hits the nail squarely on the head.

A more elegant way of saying what it is to be America in this day and age I couldn't begin to fathom.

Posted by: FOTSGreg || 06/12/2008 18:53 Comments || Top||

#2  Rantburgers will no doubt remember the approximately 15 minutes after 9/11 that the mass media was actually on OUR side. I clearly remember the AMC cable channel showing both High Noon and Sergeant York what seemed like once a week each for at least a month afterward. Until more *spit* enlightened heads prevailed, of course...
Posted by: Ricky bin Ricardo (Abu Babaloo) || 06/12/2008 22:00 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
ALAN DERSHOWITZ : on Walt and Mearsheimer
Professors Stephen Walt and John Mearsheimer have been invited to speak at Hebrew University. They will continue to pedal their bigoted drivel about the iron grip, the Jewish lobby - which they call the "Israel Lobby," in capital letters - holds over American foreign policy. They will claim, as they did in their previous writings, that Israel's birth was an original sin and crime, that Israel holds the moral low ground, and that if the cause of Israel were in any way deserving of American support, it would not need a lobby. They don't make similar claims about the powerful Saudi lobby or the numerous other lobbies that have been part of America since the days of Thomas Jefferson. If just causes did not need lobbies, then it would follow that the causes of civil rights, civil liberties, gay rights, environmental rights, the rights of the elderly, etc. would all be unjust since each of them has high-powered and effective lobbies.

They miss the point that the reason the Israel Lobby is influential is because the cause of Israel is popular among grass root Americans. This contrasts with the Saudi lobby, which buys influence for a cause that has no support among average Americans. Yet the Saudi lobby warrants almost no mention in their screed against Israel. Walt and Mearsheimer blame Israel for everything that is wrong with the world, ranging from the Iraq war to 9/11 to high oil prices.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 06/12/2008 07:46 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Those clowns are pathological liars. Add the Jewish-Lobby myths to the European-Lag theory. For those who are unaware, a black activist - David Levering Lewis - recently published a book (don't even look for it) in which he claims that the West's victory over the Muslim horde at Poitiers, set back civilization for 300 years. Of course, debasement of the West is parlor material among Euros and Black Church Agenda vermin (yah, him too).
Posted by: McZoid || 06/12/2008 18:21 Comments || Top||


Olde Tyme Religion
Dialogue among the Religions. The Vatican Prepares the Guidelines
Enough with the ceremonies. And more conviction in proclaiming the Gospel. New signs of openness come from Saudi Arabia. Algerian philosopher Mohammed Arkoun criticizes the pope, but even more the cultural void in the Muslim world

ROMA, June 11, 2008 – The plenary meeting that the pontifical council for interreligious dialogue held at the Vatican last week was the first of this pontificate, and took place with a new president – Cardinal Jean-Louis Tauran – and with experts who were also newcomers to a great extent.

And the aim of the plenary session was itself new: to develop new guidelines for the bishops, priests, and faithful in relating to other religions. This objective, Cardinal Tauran said, was decided "after many years of hesitation over its appropriateness."

On Saturday, June 9, at the end of the three-day meeting, Benedict XVI received the participants in the Sala del Concistoro. He encouraged the publication of the guidelines because, he said, "the great proliferation of interreligious meetings in today's world requires discernment." This last word is used in ecclesiastical language to urge critical analysis and the choices that stem from it.

In effect, the relationship with men of other religions has been and is being practiced in different and sometimes contradictory ways within the Catholic Church.

In the Muslim countries, for example, the most widespread practice among Catholics is that of the silent testimony of Christian life. There are reasons of prudence that justify this practice. But against those who justify it always and everywhere, the congregation for the doctrine of the faith published a doctrinal note last December 3, presenting instead a thesis previously voiced by Paul VI in "Evangelii Nuntiandi" in 1975:

"Even the finest witness will prove ineffective in the long run if it is not [...] made explicit by a clear and unequivocal proclamation of the Lord Jesus."

The guidelines that the pontifical council for interreligious dialogue is preparing to publish will point in this direction. In introducing the plenary assembly, Cardinal Tauran said:

"We know that the Holy Spirit works in every man and every woman, independently of his religious or spiritual creed. But on the other hand, we must proclaim that Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. God has revealed to us the truth about God and the truth about man, and for us this is the Good News. We cannot hide this truth under a bushel basket."

Speaking to 200 representatives of other religions during his recent visit to the United States, Benedict XVI expressed himself no less clearly:

"It is Jesus whom we bring to the forum of interreligious dialogue. The ardent desire to follow in his footsteps spurs Christians to open their minds and hearts in dialogue. [...] In our attempt to discover points of commonality, perhaps we have shied away from the responsibility to discuss our differences with calmness and clarity. [...] The higher goal of interreligious dialogue requires a clear exposition of our respective religious tenets."

This does not eliminate the fact that there is common ground for action among men of different beliefs, as the guidelines will insist. Introducing the plenary session, Tauran also said:

"The Ten Commandments are a sort of universal grammar that all believers can use in their relationship with God and neighbor. [...] In creating man, God ordered him with wisdom and love to his end, through the law written within his heart (Romans 2:15), the natural law. This is nothing other than the light of intelligence infused within us by God. Thanks to this, we know what we must do and what we must avoid. God gave us this light and this law at creation."

During the same days when the pontifical council for interreligious dialogue was holding its plenary assembly at the Vatican, there were new developments in relations between the Catholic Church and Islam.

In Saudi Arabia, in the holy city of Mecca, king Abdullah bin Abdulaziz al-Saud inaugurated on June 4 a conference of 600 representatives from the vast Muslim world, with the aim of "telling the world that we are the voice of justice and moral human values, of coexistence and dialogue."

To this end, Abdullah confirmed his desire to "organize meetings with brothers belonging to other faiths," in particular Judaism and Christianity. Islamism, according to the Saudi sovereign, "has defined the principles and opened the road for a dialogue with the faithful of other religions," and this road "passes through the values common to the three monotheistic religions". These values "reject treason, alienate crime, and combat the terrorism" practiced by "extremists among [our] own people," who "have joined forces in a flagrant aggressiveness to distort the rightfulness and tolerance of Islam."

Spoken by the king of Saudi Arabia – a nation of rigid Wahhabi Islamism and the place of origin of Osama bin Laden and of most of the authors of the attacks on September 11, 2001 – these words are of indisputable significance. At the Vatican, "L'Osservatore Romano" emphasized them in its reporting.

Moreover, King Abdullah said that he had gotten the "green light" for his project of interreligious dialogue from the Saudi ulema, and that he wants to consult with Muslims of other countries as well about the possibility. At the conference in Mecca, he brought together in a single room the sheikh of the al-Azhar mosque in Cairo, Sayyid Tantawi, a leading Sunni authority, and the Shiite ayatollah Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, former president of Iran and member of the Assembly of Experts, the center of the regime's supreme power.

In Israel, the proposals of King Abdullah were received favorably by the Ashkenazi chief rabbi Yona Metzger, and the Sephardic chief rabbi Shlomo Amar.

The final statement of the conference, called "The Appeal from Mecca," announced the creation of an Islamic center for relations among civilizations. This will organize moments of dialogue with representatives of other religions, cultures, and philosophies, and will promote the publication of books on this topic.
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Science & Technology
Just About Everyone Wants To End The Internet By 2012
Lots of conjecture, hand-waving and doom without much in the way of pesky things like facts.
ISP’s have resolved to restrict the Internet to a TV-like subscription model where users will be forced to pay to visit selected corporate websites by 2012, while others will be blocked, according to a leaked report.

Despite some people dismissing the story as a hoax, the wider plan to kill the traditional Internet and replace it with a regulated and controlled Internet 2 is manifestly provable.

Bell Canada and TELUS (formerly owned by Verizon) employees officially confirm that by 2012 ISP’s all over the globe will reduce Internet access to a TV-like subscription model, only offering access to a small standard amount of commercial sites and require extra fees for every other site you visit.
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Posted by: Anonymoose || 06/12/2008 11:26 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  When that happens, I'll just go back to doing things the way we did 8 years ago. They don't really "have us by the balls" the way they think they do. It is only going to hurt online businesses.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 06/12/2008 12:00 Comments || Top||

#2  will reduce Internet access to a TV-like subscription model

I'm about to dump cable since it is nothing but a bunch of damned commercials with an occasional program in between commercials. Not much value there. I don't need T.V. and I can live without the internet. I already pay plenty for internet use. I have a business fax and my number gets sold to whomever wants it and I get all kinds of unsolicited faxes thus using up my paper and time. I have tried no-call lists but these don't really work. We end up subsidizing every jack-leg idiot out there.
Posted by: JohnQC || 06/12/2008 12:18 Comments || Top||

#3  And other, entirely unregulated networks will be born.

The internet views regulation as 'damage' and routes around it. Long live the internet!
Posted by: Iblis || 06/12/2008 12:18 Comments || Top||

#4  I don't doubt the telcos want to do this. They planned for an AOL 'walled garden' type internet, and were in complete denial when an open model spontaneously happened.

Will it happen?

I doubt it, but doesn't surprise me they will try.
Posted by: phil_b || 06/12/2008 12:37 Comments || Top||

#5  I think it is a hoax, but they may try.

And they will fail.
Posted by: DarthVader || 06/12/2008 13:08 Comments || Top||

#6  "He who can destroy a thing controls that thing."
Posted by: mojo || 06/12/2008 13:09 Comments || Top||

#7  In a day and age when you can get free server software off the net, set up your home computer to act as a server, buy older servers at discounted prices, wire up home computers to act as parallel processing supercomputing clusters, build yor own wireless networks, and beam wireless signals miles across country with only a minimal amount of effort or materials, these folks are whistling in the wind. It's more like a far-fetched hope for what they'd like to be able to force people to do or a fantasy of a future in which they hold the reins to internet access than anything else.

I see absolutely no basis in reality in this fantastic conspiracy theory. Even if the folks who control domain names were somehow conscripted into this madness there are enough smart people out there who could circumvent them that the free web would continue somewhere, somehow.

Posted by: FOTSGreg || 06/12/2008 13:19 Comments || Top||

#8  Unfortunately, the idea of a "reduced Internet" shows the major flaws in the idea that "it will survive".

AOL is an interesting study of what things might become. They tried to become the software interface to all parts of the Internet. Unless you had special knowledge, you had to use their browser, their newsreader, etc. It created an "AOL version" of the Internet that was very easy to control and censor.

If other ISPs wanted to do something like this, they could use port control to force users through their system and surveillance. Non-authorized ports might be limited, or an extra fee added for their use.

ISPs have already discovered than only a fraction of their users are skilled. If they eliminate that fraction, which some of them are already doing, the vast majority of users buy high bandwidth to just surf the web. High bandwidth fees for dialup service.

There are an endless number of ways to screw things up, and eventually even the expert users would be confined to BBS style intranets. Most governments would be happy with this.

The telco's are under no obligation to provide inexpensive service to wildcat servers, as well.

One of the weakest links is ICANN, which is on the razor's edge. The US government wants to take it over, as does the UN, etc.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 06/12/2008 14:11 Comments || Top||

#9  I will set up my on net and let others join it wirelessly. I will name it SkyNet.
Posted by: Yosemite Sam || 06/12/2008 14:23 Comments || Top||

#10  This article is sheer idiocy. To think that if you have a small site that has important content and people won't be able to get access because your site isn't on the "subscription list" will only result in the spawning of a new network that does give access. The technology of creating a network is available to anyone with a Linux box, Quagga routing deamon, and a data connection.

The internet will always route around inefficiency and when it comes to access to data, the people involved always bat last.

I CAN see a network offering a REDUCED PRICE product that only allows certain access on some devices such as cell phones or something but there will always be demand for the internet connectivity we know today.
Posted by: crosspatch || 06/12/2008 15:03 Comments || Top||

#11  I concur that this is nonsense. It misunderstands the way the internet works, the amount of money the internet brings in currently, and the way the internet and tv, and the internet and telephones are coming together to change the way we access the beast.

Total nonsense. Perhaps a few monopolists wishful thinking but total nonsense none-the-less.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 06/12/2008 16:37 Comments || Top||

#12  That's what the Mayan's REALLY meant.
Posted by: eLarson || 06/12/2008 21:36 Comments || Top||

#13  I will name it SkyNet.
The name is already taken by the UK military satellite network.
Posted by: phil_b || 06/12/2008 21:48 Comments || Top||


Terror Networks
Al-Qaeda laid to rest? Not just yet
By Michael Scheuer
Whether said about the aging process or the implacable approach of writing deadlines, the old saw about "time flying" is certainly true. But seldom has it been truer than in the past three weeks.

At dawn on May 29, the 2007 US National Intelligence Estimate that said al-Qaeda was a major and gradually increasing threat to the United State was still valid; by late that afternoon, the secretary of the US Department of Homeland Security (DHS) had announced that the Lebanese Hezbollah was now the " 'A' team of terrorism" and that it made "al-Qaeda look like a minor league team".

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Posted by: Fred || 06/12/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: al-Qaeda

#1  "The impact of US and Western policies in the Muslim world" > which, by definition, is antithetical/contrary even unto the agendas of US-CENTRIC OWG-NWO, including as per ANTI-LEFTS, GLOBALISTS, COMMIES-SOCIALISTS-MARXISTS, SECULARISTS, GOVTISTS, etc. ANTI-US NON/ANTI-ISLAMISM > the MUSLIM WORLD CANNOT NOT BE "IMPACTED", EVER.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 06/12/2008 0:35 Comments || Top||

#2  It isn't over for me until we capture or kill #1 and #2.
Posted by: Threse Ghibelline5495 || 06/12/2008 0:39 Comments || Top||

#3  Al-Qaeda ut Jihad (base of islamic terror) was never designed to operate as a mass movement. Under Taliban foreign terrorists were trained to create murder cells, and to wage mayhem in the Free World. Wherever there are Muslims; there is al-Qaeda. They are acting out the Koran script in the same manner as the phony "prophet" of Islam, who waged naked aggression against peoples whose leaders wouldn't surrender to his assimilating and raping armies.
Posted by: McZoid || 06/12/2008 4:10 Comments || Top||

#4  3000 plus of our citizens were murdered on 911 by islamists--of one stripe or another.
Posted by: JohnQC || 06/12/2008 12:50 Comments || Top||

#5  A little caveat about Michael Scheuer: he is an anti-war activist. That is not to say that he gets everything wrong. In fact, the left is embarassing hawks with apt SOFA analyses. There has been some particularly depraved Shiite leveraging on that issue, and there are signs of White House bending. Iran is using their Iraq player pianos to favor BHO in the US elections.
Posted by: McZoid || 06/12/2008 18:12 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
World's nastiest bumper sticker
Jay Nordlinger, National Review

Now and then in this column, I comment on bumper stickers, and how bad they are. There is one in particular that is especially offensive. In fact, I think it may take the cake. I have written about it before. But I was reminded of it when a reader wrote in, couple of days ago.

Dear Jay,

I saw a uniquely infuriating bumper sticker today. The car in front of me on my way home from work had a sticker saying, “My Boss Is an Austrian Painter.” It took me a few moments to realize that this was a takeoff on the Christian sticker “My Boss Is a Jewish Carpenter.”

Oh, yes: Here is a bumper sticker that mocks Christians and calls them Nazis. That is, indeed, cake-taking. An apotheosis, you might say. A perfect distillation of liberal hate and madness.

And, by the way, have you ever seen an anti-Muslim bumper sticker? Say that our “Austrian Painter” guy had a sticker on his car mocking the Prophet Muhammad. How long would he stay alive? A day? An hour?
Posted by: Mike || 06/12/2008 10:58 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  strange. I'm a Christian and I don't find it offensive but a useful warning. The fact that his God is Hitler says all I need to know about him. It says nothing about Christians.
Posted by: Sninert Black9312 || 06/12/2008 11:27 Comments || Top||

#2  I read it the same way.
Posted by: Steve White || 06/12/2008 11:35 Comments || Top||

#3  I think I could find a parallel.

"My boss is a self admitted illiterate child molesting murderer."
Posted by: swksvolFF || 06/12/2008 11:37 Comments || Top||

#4  If you had an anti-muslim bumper sticker on your car, your car would probably be burned and you would be sued by CAIR for desecrating islam.
Posted by: JohnQC || 06/12/2008 12:22 Comments || Top||

#5  As per #1 and #2, I also take no offense, and it is a very useful warning about the driver/owner of the car.
Posted by: WolfDog || 06/12/2008 12:26 Comments || Top||

#6  “My Boss Is an Austrian Painter.”

These days, how many people do you think who sees it even know what it means?
Posted by: tu3031 || 06/12/2008 12:37 Comments || Top||

#7  30 years ago in upstate NY I saw the following bumper sticker.

Troy NY Home of Son of Sam
Posted by: phil_b || 06/12/2008 12:41 Comments || Top||

#8  These days, how many people do you think who sees it even know what it means?

TU the people it is designed to offend. Also, those it is designed to excite. I agree the dumb masses don't have a clue.
Posted by: Beavis || 06/12/2008 12:49 Comments || Top||

#9  I have always been fond of a bumper sticker I saw in Northern California a while ago:

Jesus loves you.
Everyone else thinks your an a**hole.
Posted by: Capsu78 || 06/12/2008 13:56 Comments || Top||

#10  While the bumpersticker is in questionable taste, I don't think the guy was seriously ragging Christians. I seems to me like it was an attempt (puerile, yes) at humor along the lines of "Nuke the whales"
Posted by: Gliling Hatfield6642 || 06/12/2008 14:36 Comments || Top||

#11  If you read it strictly speaking the guy is saying he is a Nazi and a follower of Hitler.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 06/12/2008 16:32 Comments || Top||

#12  Here in Massholia I saw a particularly repulsive sticker the other day.


On the back of a junker truck...

"My other ride is your daughter"

Disgusting to me and I don't have daughters.
Posted by: AlanC || 06/12/2008 16:41 Comments || Top||

#13  Best bumper sticker I've seeen lately
"Darwin Loves You"
Hits at unthinking religion so many ways.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 06/12/2008 19:12 Comments || Top||


New York Times isn't sure that free speech is such a good idea
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 06/12/2008 10:43 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Free speech is O.K. only if it applies to the NYTs in their view. They don't think too much of the second Amendment either or for that matter any of the others.
Posted by: JohnQC || 06/12/2008 12:24 Comments || Top||

#2 
I'm not so sure the NYT is such a good idea!
Posted by: One Eyed Ulese1266 || 06/12/2008 13:39 Comments || Top||


Home Front Economy
Democrat Committee Kills Off Shore Drilling Bill
AoS note: when a blogger like Malkin cites a news item and then blogs about it, provide us with the news link, not the blogger's.
WASHINGTON - A House subcommittee killed a proposal to open up the nation's coastlines to offshore drilling for oil and natural gas Wednesday. But House Republicans who pushed the proposal vowed to continue their fight, saying the public is behind them as the average price of gasoline now tops $4 a gallon.

On a party-line vote, the House Appropriations subcommittee that oversees public lands voted 9 to 6 against the drilling plan.

The proposal by Rep. John Peterson, R-Pa., would allow for drilling between 50 miles and 200 miles of the nation's coastlines. Peterson, who is retiring next year, said offshore drilling could provide enough oil to replace Middle East oil imports for 35 years. He said the plan would also yield an 18-year supply of natural gas.

A 27-year-old federal moratorium has prevented offshore drilling in most coastal waters except parts of the Gulf of Mexico.

Virginia lawmakers have expressed interest in pursuing drilling, particularly for natural gas.

"There is no valid reason for Congress to continue keeping Americans from the offshore resources they own," Peterson said.

But Democrats, who control Congress, said offshore drilling would have no immediate effect on the price of gasoline and would do little to lower the world price of oil. "We are kidding ourselves, as we routinely do in this town, if we think we can drill our way out of this problem," said Rep. Dave Obey, D-Wis.
If we'd started drilling 20 years ago you might be saying something different today. The Brits and Norweigans started drilling the North Sea even though it was estimated not to be enough to replace their other imports. Today they're glad they did.
Rep. Norm Dicks, D-Wash., the subcommittee chairman, cited estimates from the Minerals Management Service — an arm of the U.S. Interior Department — ;that found 82 percent of the known offshore reserves of natural gas and 79 percent of the known reserves for oil are in areas already fully open for drilling.
Open the other areas and you'll have new estimates soon enough from the new exploration.
But Republicans vowed to continue their fight, saying growing public anger at the rising price of gasoline will require Congress to boost domestic energy production. "The American people are going to have a lot to say about this," said Rep. Jerry Lewis, R-Calif., the ranking Republican on the full House Appropriations Committee. "We're going to be literally forced as a body to rethink our preconceived notions."

Republicans may get another shot at offshore drilling as early as next week, when the spending bill funding the Interior Department goes to the full Appropriations Committee. "This is going to end up being an energy bill whether we like it or not," Lewis said.

But so far, offshore drilling has triggered a partisan response in Congress, with Democrats lined up squarely against it.
Posted by: Wheremp Grinegum2764 || 06/12/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Democrats are all happy to see us poor as hell. No skin off of the Democrat controlled Congress's noses they are all worth at least a million.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 06/12/2008 0:22 Comments || Top||

#2  All the estimates are much too low with oil at $130.

I read recently that there are 300 oilfields in the UKs North Sea, which had been left unexploited as uneconomic and are now viable.
Posted by: phil_b || 06/12/2008 0:51 Comments || Top||

#3  The names of the democrats who voted against this should be pasted on every gas pump in the USA!
Posted by: 3dc || 06/12/2008 1:19 Comments || Top||

#4  The demoC'rap bastids have blocked every Caliphornia off shore and North Slope drilling bill for 50 years.

GRRRRRRRR!
Posted by: Rapporteur™ || 06/12/2008 1:47 Comments || Top||

#5  Can we render the demonrats down for fuel?
Posted by: Silentbrick || 06/12/2008 2:50 Comments || Top||

#6  Fine. Make sure this is trumpeted loud and clear and sit back and watch the fireworks when oil hits $200/bbl.
Posted by: gorb || 06/12/2008 3:01 Comments || Top||

#7  Thank you, Democrats, for limiting supply and teaching us a very good lesson in supply and demand!
Posted by: OPEC || 06/12/2008 5:52 Comments || Top||

#8  The names of the democrats who voted against this should be pasted on every gas pump in the USA!

Along with their connections to the Saudis and "green" companies.
Posted by: JFM || 06/12/2008 6:45 Comments || Top||

#9  Bunch of damn watermelons. Keep up the news and names of the dhimocrats when gas hits $4.50 at the end of the summer and right as the elections are in full swing.

Damn dhimocrats should swing, but I'll settle for them being tossed out of office.
Posted by: DarthVader || 06/12/2008 7:36 Comments || Top||

#10  But Democrats, who control Congress, said offshore drilling would have no immediate effect on the price of gasoline and would do little to lower the world price of oil.

I'll give them that much. Which is why they must approve some refineries, too.

Seriously they demand all solutions to problems of these to be All or Nothing. They're fine with creeping incrementalism when it comes to a socialist agenda, but for this... pfeh.
Posted by: eLarson || 06/12/2008 7:38 Comments || Top||

#11  Didn't the Governor of Montana recently say they were ready, willing and able to not only drill but refine oil?

What's stopping them?
Posted by: Grenter Protector of the Geats4975 || 06/12/2008 8:51 Comments || Top||

#12  What's stopping them?

EPA, ROI.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 06/12/2008 9:38 Comments || Top||

#13  These elitist dhimmirats would have us all living in the 7th century like the Taliban with their damned silliness. Cut their (Congress) earnings in half and give em term limits unless you want to hang em for something. That will cut out their silliness.
Posted by: JohnQC || 06/12/2008 12:07 Comments || Top||

#14  "We are kidding ourselves, as we routinely do in this town, if we think we can drill our way out of this problem," said Rep. Dave Obey, D-Wis.

And I'm sure Dave sees himself as a "visionary"...
Posted by: tu3031 || 06/12/2008 13:20 Comments || Top||

#15  Seems like we have become tribalized in this country. No one in Washington wants to do what's best for our country; instead it's how do I get re-elected or get points or advantage for my party.
Posted by: JohnQC || 06/12/2008 14:56 Comments || Top||

#16  Bumper stickers on gas pumps blaming $4 gas on democrats.
That is the best idea I have come across in years. So, who makes bumper stickers ? Is there a RANTBURG bumper sticker factory ?
Posted by: wxjames || 06/12/2008 15:08 Comments || Top||

#17  Actually, there are plans in the works to build a new refinery (the first in the US since '76!). This article covers the selection of a site near Elk Point, SD, as a finalist for this $8 billion project.

It's expected to refine Canadian crude brought south by pipeline--but if we can get drilling in North Dakota for that newly discovered oil deposit as well, so much the better!
Posted by: Dar || 06/12/2008 15:14 Comments || Top||

#18  wxjames - I just thought of it when I posted....
I think something in Commie Red/Yellow that went something like:
"Angry about the price of this gas? These democrats voted to not allow congress to talk about drilling. Then their names and states"

Sell them in bundles of 50 or so to put on that pump when you fill up. (and yes it will upset the owners..)
Posted by: 3dc || 06/12/2008 17:41 Comments || Top||

#19  The republicans should be shouting this from the rooftops. But they won't because the current leadershit is worthless.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 06/12/2008 18:15 Comments || Top||

#20  The Democrat party are complete and utter morons.
Posted by: crosspatch || 06/12/2008 19:48 Comments || Top||

#21  Remember, Obama says the problem with high gas prices is that they went up too fast.
Posted by: DMFD || 06/12/2008 19:54 Comments || Top||

#22  No matter how painful, the dems will kill ANYTHING that might point to progress during W's watch.
Posted by: Besoeker || 06/12/2008 21:56 Comments || Top||

#23  Their comeback is "Drilling will nto fix the prices now". Well no shit sherlock, But it will take the top off the upward pressure, and in 5-7 years it WILL affect things, you idiot.

Anyone that votes against OCS exploarion, shale and coal to liquid fuel, shoudl be hounded out of office with a pitchfork, tar and feathers.

And start stringing a few up if they dont get it.

These guys remind me of Mel Brooks "Governor and staff" in blazing saddles...

Ladies and Gentlemen, our Democrat led, Republican lap dog congress in action:




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