About 60 soldiers began a 5:30am march in full combat gear as part of final training to receive their expert field medical badge. With temperatures in the high 70's, but with humidity approaching 95%, 37 soldiers required medical treatment. Of those, 13 were taken to Womack Army Medical Center.
One soldier remains in the hospital's intensive care unit. And some officers and NCOs are in very deep trouble.
#1
Even with humidity, I don't understand how high 70's should knock down 2/3 on final qualifying. Either gear is way too much or training is too little. These are not extreme conditions.
#2
And some officers and NCOs are in very deep trouble.
I'll take bets on that. Too many time this has happened but the training schedule seems to override safety every time. Till the very senior command of the Army is held accountable for imbuing a standard that sustains it, those lives will be forfeited because there is no 'give' in those schedules.
#3
Not getting it. Did the same at Benning and Jackson in far, far worse weather. Eighties, nineties, horrid humidity.
At Benning, we'd fall out for PT about sunrise, change for reveille and in a couple of minutes, the sweat would run down our fatigues because they were already so soaked with sweat that more couldn't be absorbed.
Far, far worse.
My advice is look at breakfast.
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#4
Temperature is not the matter, Wet Bulb reading does.
Lack of water intake, lack of evaporation,and even semi-high temp could knock it down to training condition black which entails minimal exertion or exercise.
#5
newc. Point is, I and my buddies served in far, far worse wet-bulb conditions. That means lousy evaporation--salute somebody with a spray from your hand--and high temps. How's wet bulb with, say, ninety-two and eighty percent humidity?
There were times I was so thirsty, I dreamed when catching a quick nap, that I was swimming in a pool of lime koolaid.
Nope. Something wrong here besides the conditions during the march. Used to run three miles "The MATA Mile" at Bragg one summer about 4pm after classes. No equipment, but pretty good time.
Never had, even in worse conditions in AIT training at Jackson in a record summer, anything like thirty-seven guys flaking out.
Doing some AYSO coaching years ago, one of the instructors warned us that women don't sweat like men do--they glow--and we're more likely to have heat casualties with women. Had to be careful. Deodorant ads have said the same thing, for some other purpose, which escapes me. So it must be true.
Like to know if women were proportionately involved in the casualties.
And, still, I'd look at breakfast.
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#6
Agree - its gotta be some other external
factor(s) thats not being described.
#7
Richard Aubrey, I agree. I KNOW it is more than wet bulb condition. To lose the equalivilant of a Platoon is worthy of further look in a simple ruck march. Probably 1/4th of our careers has been working or training under condition black.I have never see such a loss in my time either.
I was merely taking us to the first stage of the investigation.
Lack of water is the most likely reason - lightening loads. These were medics too.
Ramzan Kadyrov, Chechnya's eccentric leader, is famous for his collections of wild animals and luxury cars. Now he claims to be the owner of a bowl once used by Muhammad, supposedly presented to him by descendants in London.
A video shows Kadyrov collecting the purported relic from a private jet at Grozny airport on Wednesday before getting into a convertible Rolls-Royce covered in black and gold rugs, also said to have been delivered from London.
The Rolls-Royce leads a motorcade of dozens of luxury cars to the city's grand mosque, opened by Kadyrov in 2008 as part of his ambition to increase the official role of Islam in the republic. Thousands of residents lined the streets as the Chechen leader waved and wiped away tears.
Wearing a bright purple suit and black skullcap, Kadyrov pushes through a huge crowd at the mosque, said to be the largest in Europe. As he opens the box to reveal the bowl, Kadyrov breaks into loud sobs, shoulders heaving. He covers his face after he kisses the holy bowl for the first time. Kadyrov then lifts the relic above his head, leading the crowd in chants of "Allahu Akbar".
Kadyrov told the crowd that the sacred bowl "was brought from London to Grozny by British Muslims" and was 1,400 years old. His press agency said the bowl had been kept in London by descendants of Muhammad's cousin, Ali. At the unveiling Kadyrov said, "We put a lot of effort into getting the Great Prophet's bowl to our republic."
The bowl will be kept at the mosque and brought out every year on Muhammad's birthday, when believers will be allowed to drink from it. "Many expressed keen interest in the bowl, but the descendants decided that Ramzan Kadyrov deserves to keep it, and so it has been passed to him," said the press agency.
The world stands on the brink of a new economic crisis that would leave countries like Britain "staring down the barrel", David Cameron has warned.
The Prime Minister said that the failure of leaders in the US and Europe to tackle government deficits now "threatens the stability of the world economy".
Mr Cameron spoke as stock markets around the world fell sharply again, with the FTSE-100 suffering its biggest drop for more than two years.
Politicians, central bankers and investors are increasingly worried that the world's biggest economies are sliding back into a recession, dragged down by government debts.
More gloomy economic data yesterday led one of the world's leading economists to say that Britain, the US and the eurozone are all already in recession, and warn of a second financial crisis worse than that of 2008/9.
The Prime Minister spoke in Canada after delivering a blunt warning to President Barack Obama and eurozone leaders about the need to follow Britain's example and curb their deficits.
WROCLAW - Greece will significantly reduce its participation in Nato and EU military missions due to the economic crisis in the country, Greek National Defence Minister Panos Beglitis announced on the sidelines of an informal EU defence ministers' Council held here on Friday. Perhaps Israel could help out...
He said that the ministry was preparing to cut down Greece's participation in the Nato and EU missions in Afghanistan, Kosovo and Somalia. Beglitis made it clear, however, that Greece would not withdraw entirely and will continue to maintain a small presence as long as the international missions continued to exist.
Brussels civil servants are refusing to discuss austerity measures aimed at cutting the cost of the EU -- and claim that having to work a 40 hour week would ruin the "attractiveness" of their jobs. Jeez, I guess if they do it...you'll all have to quit and look for other more attractive jobs then, right? Right? If a unionized civil servant isn't doing his job 37 1/2 hours a week, what's the point of asking him to not do his job 40 hours a week?
Trade unions representing the EU's army of 55,000 officials have refused to discuss proposals for a 40 hour working week -- an extra 2.5 hours -- the key measure in a Brussels drive to save taxpayers £870 million a year by 2020. Ve vill not doo eet, feelthy bourjwahzee peeg dawgs!
The longer week is vital to a European Commission plan to save money by cutting the number of EU officials by five per cent at a time when national public sector workers are facing huge redundancies and sweeping austerity programmes. Here's an idea. The next big snow storm, say that only "essential personnel" have to report to work. Whoever doesn't show up...fire them. And thank them for proving your point. It's Belgium. I don't think they have big snowstorms, although it does get brisk along the coast.
But the measure, already regarded as minimal by cash-strapped national governments seeking to cut their EU contributions, has been rejected outright by trade unions representing civil servants who are among the best rewarded in the world.
"The unions and staff associations replied to this proposal with a categorical 'Niet!'," the Equipe d' Union Syndicale, a group of trade union leaders, told its members.
"The attractiveness of the European civil service would deteriorate. It would be a socially-backward step that the unions and staff associations reject emphatically." Of course the service will still suck...we will not jeopardize our traditions! Sounds like the unions called in their Greek compatriots to stiffen their collective spines...
Martin Callanan, the leader of the European Conservatives, said: "Public sector staff the world over are facing cutbacks and wage freezes. But here in Brussels they seem to think they live in an economic microclimate where money grows on trees and the world owes them a very comfortable living." Yeah...so? Vat ees your point, fascist peeg?
"They need to get real and start to talk to us about how they can help Europe out of this crisis." If there was no crisis Europe would need a lot fewer bureaucrats, apparatchiks and nomenclatura. And we're not going to let that happen, are we? Well, ARE WE?
The EU staff unions are also opposed to any changes to a generous flexitime scheme that meant that 2,000 Brussels officials, earning from £104,000 to £185,000 a year, were entitled to three months off work on full pay last year.
Despite being paid six figure salaries, the EU's most senior civil servants have been allowed to join the scheme, originally meant for lower paid secretarial staff, that gives them an extra 24 days off work every year for those that put in an extra 45 minutes a day in the office. Hey! Look what peasants are getting away with!
How wasteful! We've gotta get in on that!
HARRRRUMPH HARRRRUMPH HARRRRUMPH...
The perk comes on top of annual holidays of 24 days as well as seven days off for public holidays, and in 2010, 11 "non-working" days out of the office when the Brussels institutions are closed in summer and at Christmas. The allowances mean that last year many EU staff were entitled to 66 days, 13 weeks or a over quarter of the year off work. And I'm sure they're real heavy lifting jobs too..
In response to a commission request that senior management grades be taken out of the scheme, EU staff trade unions have demanded the opposite, that "principle of recuperation needs to be consolidated". Tell them to go on strike. See what happens...
Stephen Booth, of the Open Europe pressure group, said: "This protest shows a complete lack of self-awareness and is an insult to taxpayers all over Europe who face falling living standards and the threat of redundancy."
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We have to protect our phoney baloney jobs here, gentlemen! We must do something about this immediately! Immediately! Immediately! Harrumph! Harrumph! Harrumph!
#2
This is a grand gesture. Now Israel needs brought into the deal. USA should broker a deal to mend things a bit. Some stability must be the end result.Look how things are going now. Do we want more tension in this part of the world. The gas has always been there. New wealth, then work a deal.Turkey desperately needs this. Should this gesture be refused then things will get much worse. Money doesn't buy happiness but it can help. Again watch Russia, they are drooling over this.
#3
Do we want more tension in this part of the world
It doesn't matter what we want, Dale. Turkey wants it. Paying this Danegeld will quickly not keep them from demanding more until the Ottoman empire is reconstituted with them in charge.
#6
The Turks need to back off or become a footnote in history. Their neo-Ottoman approach will make the Israelis more likely to spend the money from the natural gas fields on military equipment with which to defend the fields. And Turkey cannot take the fields and hold them, at best they can do some damage and then the Bosporus Straits are closed indefinitely, crippling the Turkish economy.
If NASA ever wants to send astronauts to Mars, it first must solve a problem that has nothing to do with rockets or radiation exposure. A newly discovered eye condition has been found to erode the vision of some astronauts who have spent months aboard the International Space Station. Although blindness is the worst-case scenario, the threat of blurred vision is enough that NASA has asked scores of researchers to study the issue and has put special eyeglasses on the space station to help those affected. The disorder, similar to a condition called papilledema, is thought to be caused by increased spinal-fluid pressure on the head and eyes due to microgravity, although the exact cause is uncertain. NASA's chief health and medical officer declined to discuss specific cases but acknowledged at least one astronaut never regained normal vision.
It was Albert Einstein, no less, who proposed more than 100 years ago that nothing could travel faster than the speed of light.
But last night it emerged that the man who laid the foundations for the laws of nature may have been wrong.
Actually, there have been a number of models that suggest quantum effects are information transfer not subject to relativistic limits. But clocking neutrinos gives things a bit more focus ...
The science world was left in shock when workers at the world's largest physics lab announced they had recorded subatomic particles travelling faster than the speed of light
If the findings are proven to be accurate, they would overturn one of the pillars of the Standard Model of physics, which explains the way the universe and everything within it works.
Einstein's theory of special relativity, proposed in 1905, states that nothing in the universe can travel faster than the speed of light in a vacuum. But researchers at the CERN lab near Geneva claim they have recorded neutrinos, a type of tiny particle, travelling faster than the barrier of 186,282 miles (299,792 kilometers) per second.
The results have so astounded researchers that American and Japanese scientists have been asked to verify the results before they are confirmed as a discovery.
This needs to be independantly replicated and verified first.
And it isn't that Einstein was *wrong* - he was *right* with what could be observed and measured at the time. There is a reason it's called a *theory* and not a *fact* (except by journalists....).
#5
From what I have read, they are putting all of their work online and requesting that the scientific community scrutinize it all for errors.
That is the way non-politicized science is done. It's a shame that other branches - those surrounding trends in our climate - are not questioned as to why they cannot do the same.
#6
There are many issues of "basic" physics that are taken for granted that have open issues. There's a book by Dr. Lee Smolin that talks about the dogmatism of current physics vis a vis string theory; if you don't "do" string theory you are cut out of the money.
One of the claims made about Einstein is that he invented "gravity" because he couldn't tolerate the idea of force at a distance with no mechanism. Magnetism seems to me to have the same problem. Exactly what IS a field? You can measure it and describe its effects but how does it work?
One problem for physics is that all there metaphors seem to be breaking down. If you don't speak Math you can't really speak anything and Math doesn't really do much in the world of Meta-physics and theology that seems to be where the rubber is hitting the road.
#11
Kant, Godel and others have thoughts that pertain. But none have said it better than when Shakespeare wrote: The are more things in heaven and earth than..."
As the Geocentrist's were schooled to their dismay, the Science is NEVER settled. And that was after a couple of millennia!
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In professing themselves to be wise - they become fools...
#17
it's simply our own arrogance that says it is 'settled science'.
Here is a tip for everyone who spent high school science class smoking in the restroom: No real scientist will ever use the phrase "settled science" except in a mocking sense. By the nature of science itself, there is simply no such thing.
Also, a real scientist will show you his conclusions, the data, AND his calculations so anyone can check the results. Just like these guys are doing and exactly NOT how the 'climate science' people work.
#18
Well, the scientists themselves are asking for independent verification. Kinda like how real climate scientists are suppose to do it....
Einstein said, "God does not play with the dice."
Hawking said, "Not only that God does play dice, but that he sometimes confuses us by throwing them where they can't be seen."
I have a feeling that the universe has lots of hidden dice for us to find simply because we don't understand all the rules to the game yet.
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I haven't seen the raw data or anything... but I found an article with more details.
I did some calculations.
They're saying they measured the neutrinos at 1.000024c.
Which is really close to c.
This is the sort of discrepancy that makes you think it's probably some sort of experimental error.
Another suggestion I read was that the measurements were accurate and the neutrinos were merely travelling at 'c' instead of what we _thought_ c was, and that photons are kept from travelling at exactly c by some virtual-particle vacuum interaction that's currently poorly understood.
The only problem with that that I can think of is that 'c' shows up in more places than the Cosmic Speed Limit, and all sorts of variables and constants and quantum mechanical calculations would be thrown off. It would mean we've been getting the curve of binding energy wrong all these years.
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Despite the large significance of the measurement reported here and the stability of the analysis, the potentially great impact of the result motivates the continuation of our studies in order to investigate possible still unknown systematic effects that could explain the observed anomaly. We deliberately do not attempt any theoretical or phenomenological interpretation of
the results.
A multi-volume chronology and reference guide set detailing three years of the Mexican Drug War between 2010 and 2012.
Rantburg.com and borderlandbeat.com correspondent and author Chris Covert presents his first non-fiction work detailing
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Chris gives us Mexican press dispatches of drug and gang war violence
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Ramzan Kadyrov, Chechnya's eccentric leader, is famous for his collections of wild animals and luxury cars. Now he claims to be the owner of a bowl once used by Muhammad, supposedly presented to him by descendants in London.
The world stands on the brink of a new economic crisis that would leave countries like Britain "staring down the barrel", David Cameron has warned. 
