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-Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
Breaking: Mag 7.8 Quake hits Sichuan, China
Posted by: phil_b || 05/12/2008 04:53 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  7.8 is biiggggg.
Posted by: Frank G || 05/12/2008 8:47 Comments || Top||

#2  http://www.iris.edu/seismon/

It's the gift that keeps on giving:

http://www.iris.edu/seismon/zoom/events/?lon=104.62&lat=31.9
Posted by: Anonymoose || 05/12/2008 9:16 Comments || Top||

#3  No damage noted to the Three Gorges dam, yet. But if it goes, kiss Shanghai goodbye.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 05/12/2008 9:20 Comments || Top||

#4  A: No damage noted to the Three Gorges dam, yet. But if it goes, kiss Shanghai goodbye.

Shanghai is about 1000 miles downstream. Do you really think that a dam burst could affect Shanghai? Even Wuhan, the nearest big city downstream, is hundreds of miles away.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 05/12/2008 10:49 Comments || Top||

#5  There have been a lot of quakes around the world in weird places recently. Hmm.... almost like mother Gaia is retching from all the Goreacle bile being thrown her way and she is about to vomit.

(I know, I know. But I can wish, can't I?)
Posted by: DarthVader || 05/12/2008 10:55 Comments || Top||

#6  I dunno Zhang, it's a mighty big dam, and a lot of water behind it, and the land channels the water down to the sea. A thousand miles is a long way so maybe Shanghai doesn't get flattened. But a lot of people along the way will get mighty wet.
Posted by: Steve White || 05/12/2008 11:07 Comments || Top||

#7  I'm sure we haven't heard the worst news from this yet, Frank G is right, 7.8 is huge.

For comparison, the Loma Prieta Earthquake in Oakland in 89 was only Mag 6.9. An earthquake 7.0 to 7.9 is classified as a Major Earthquake.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 05/12/2008 11:07 Comments || Top||

#8  SW: A thousand miles is a long way so maybe Shanghai doesn't get flattened. But a lot of people along the way will get mighty wet.

I don't think it's a matter of downstream. I think all of the low-lying areas within a thirty or forty mile *radius* of a dam burst will get inundated. But that excludes Wuhan, let alone Shanghai. It will resemble one of the old time flood disasters they used to encounter multiplied by some factor. I really don't see Shanghai having a problem, because it's located where the Yangtse widens and flows into the East China Sea - the water has someplace to go.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 05/12/2008 11:22 Comments || Top||

#9  A 7.8 is as big as the great San Francisco quake of 1906. God help them, they are going to need it. I saw reports of over 80% of all buildings down in some areas.
Posted by: crosspatch || 05/12/2008 11:24 Comments || Top||

#10  Quick note: the scale is geometric - each 'unit' is 10 times greater in size - so 7.0 is 10 times bigger then 6.0 - presumably 7.8 might be about 8X the size of a 7.0 (which is big enough in its own right).
Posted by: CrazyFool || 05/12/2008 12:08 Comments || Top||

#11  Several strong after shocks have also occurred making rescue work a nightmare.
Posted by: wxjames || 05/12/2008 12:11 Comments || Top||

#12  Is this an unusual epicenter? It does seem a long way inside the continent. A lot of folks are going to die before the commies can get aid to them. Perhaps we should send aid, wait we already do that.
Posted by: bman || 05/12/2008 12:25 Comments || Top||

#13  What bman said.

I wasn't aware that there were any tectonic plates, etc., in that part of the country. I thought they were clustered around Korea/China/Japan.

Posted by: Mizzou Mafia || 05/12/2008 12:41 Comments || Top||

#14  Reported dead up to 8500 now.
Posted by: tipper || 05/12/2008 12:51 Comments || Top||

#15  Mizzou Mafia,
there is a Tectonic summary here.
Posted by: tipper || 05/12/2008 13:00 Comments || Top||

#16  CHONGQING, China - One of the worst earthquakes in decades struck central China on Monday, killing nearly 9,000 people, trapping about 900 students under the rubble of their school and causing a toxic chemical leak, state media reported.

The 7.8-magnitude earthquake devastated a hilly region of small cities and towns in Sichuan and nearby provinces. The official Xinhua News Agency said 8,533 people died in Sichuan alone and dozens of other deaths were reported in surrounding areas. Xinhua said 80 percent of the buildings had collapsed in Sichuan province's Beichuan county after the quake, raising fears the overall death toll could increase sharply.

State media said a chemical plant in Shifang city had cratered, burying hundreds of people and spilling more than 80 tons of toxic liquid ammonia from the site.
Posted by: tu3031 || 05/12/2008 13:42 Comments || Top||

#17  Has the Mandate of Heaven been revoked?
Posted by: charger || 05/12/2008 15:47 Comments || Top||

#18  Go here, and look at the pattern. Apparently there's a very active fault line that's releasing pressure. Whether it affects the Three Gorges Dam, who can know. It's not that far away, though - the Three Gorges run from just north of Chongqing (Chunking) for about 70 or 80 miles up the Yangtse. Most of the pressure is coming from the Indus plate, slamming into the Asia plate. There have been 24 aftershocks in the last 24 hours. I'm sure there will be more. There might also be a large quake in the Xian area in the near future, as pressures equalize.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 05/12/2008 17:02 Comments || Top||

#19  Re: Crazyfool comment #10:

The Richter scale IS a logarithmic scale, but the magnitude between integer magnitudes is 31.6 times the energy of the lower magnitude integer. A jump of two integers means 1000x more energy. A 7.8 quake is a seriously huge one!

Note that when you get away from the US building codes, the casualties SOAR during a major earthquake. Enforcing building codes DOES some good sometimes.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 05/12/2008 17:20 Comments || Top||

#20  Where's Halliburton??

WE Need them to report in? >:>
Posted by: RD || 05/12/2008 17:32 Comments || Top||

#21  Reports are that Three Gorges Dam was NOT damaged.

But you have to ask yourself would the Chinese report serious damage..??

Short of complete failure which the Chinese couldn't Deny, would the Chinese report geological substrate movement or slippage underneath the Dam for instance. Or structural weakness in the Abutments or breaches into the rock-filled core, toe etc.

My vote is No, the Chinese would cover it up for a while at least.
Posted by: RD || 05/12/2008 17:57 Comments || Top||

#22  RD: Reports are that Three Gorges Dam was NOT damaged.

My feeling is that on a high profile (and expensive) project like that, there are likely to be multiple redundancies built in. Corner cutting is likely to be limited given that any problem that results in mass deaths will mean a lot of public executions down the line.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 05/12/2008 18:21 Comments || Top||

#23  Distance means very little in damage from earthquakes. Damage (Modified Mercalli) is not directly related to the amount of energy released (Richter) due to the transmissivity of the crust through which the waves pass. Thus, an earthquake at New Madrid, MO would devastate an area many times greater, and more populous, than an equally powerful earthquake on the San Andreas fault.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 05/12/2008 18:26 Comments || Top||

#24  Thanks for the correction AP.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 05/12/2008 19:15 Comments || Top||

#25  Regarding fault lines. There have been large quakes in NY in the past but we don't consider it on a fault line. There are mini-faults all over in. It's just he major faults have more, and also manage to relieve pressure in the process while the others? Well I'm not really sure what they are doing. Possibly Continents are dividing over millions of years because of the pressure on the edges.

Good thing the Commies aren't religious because first their lackeys in Burma are hit by a natural disaster and then China is hit. If I were Iran or Sudan I'd be worried now.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 05/12/2008 19:19 Comments || Top||

#26  Nearly 10,000 known dead now, with plenty more yet to be found under collapsed buildings -- the army troops are forced by conditions to make their way on foot. The earthquake hit in the middle of the day, so most everyone was indoors at school or work.

China was having trouble with landslides along the river upstream from the Three Gorges dam even before the earthquake, reportedly due to saturated soil. The dam may silt up before it has a chance to fall apart.

May God watch over the poor and the powerless in China and Burma, suffering because of the vicious and the corrupt, because no one else will.
Posted by: trailing wife || 05/12/2008 19:32 Comments || Top||

#27  It's 500 miles to the Three Gorges Dam from the earthquake.
Posted by: Waldemar Phating5478 || 05/12/2008 20:20 Comments || Top||

#28  And at last count, the reservoir from the dam was 600 km (prob. close to 360 miles) long. I don't know what it's final length is supposed to be, but it's supposed to reach it next year.
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 05/12/2008 20:30 Comments || Top||

#29  "A lot of quakes around the world in weird places recently" > AGAIN, GLOBAL WARMING = the SUN.
All of human recorded history amd measurement is minutae compared to what we haven't measured.
These quakes will continue to slowly but steadily escalate in frequency and magnitude, albeit variable. I've been telling GUam locals that, exclusive of any benefit or detriment induced by the reloca of US Marine units from Okinawa, ASIA-PACIFIC "EARTH CHANGES" > VARI DESTABILIZATIONS [e.g. ASIAN FOOD-FUEL CRISES] AND DIAPORAS OF HUMAN POPULS WILL OCCUR WHICH WILL ADD TO PRESSURES VV GUAM-CNMI + MICRONESIA, etc.

I'm also watching SUMMER 2008 [space]; + SUNSPOT/SOLAR CYCLE 24 as per 2008-2015 for various LT effects [2010 thru 2015]. "24" IS SUPPOS TO BE A HOT ONE.

MY ADVICE > EVERYBODY GO TO COSTCO, WALMART, ETC, AND BUY SUNCREEN BY THE PALLET/BULK LOAD + HOME COOLING + HOME FOOD/WATER MFG SYSTEMS.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 05/12/2008 20:32 Comments || Top||

#30  Hey, Joe, any earth lights or earthquake lights or hitodama (I hear that's the word in Japanese) out your way from this quake? You've said in the past they've shown up when something's about to happen/has happened.
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 05/12/2008 20:37 Comments || Top||

#31  And for everyone else who's wondering what I'm talking about, wikipedia's entry on Earthquake Lights has links to three videos from Peru of earthquake lights: link one, link two, and link three.
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 05/12/2008 20:55 Comments || Top||

#32  SCIENCEDAILY > SOLAR VARIABILITY: STRIKING A BALANCE WITH CLIMATE CHANGE [Next SOlar Maxima in 2012]; + GLOBAL WARMING COULD SHUT DOWN EARTH'S PLATE TECHTRONICS. So-o-o, iff the SUN doesn't blow = expand, the Earth will???

ALso from ScienDaily > NEW STUDY [NOAA]:CONTAMINANTS DECLINE IN LAST 10-20 YEARS.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 05/12/2008 22:08 Comments || Top||

#33  Joe, did you know that in the year 43 BC, there were 59 quakes in Latium (Rome) alone? A century before that, there was even more per annum. There is an Egyptian scroll from bout 600BC, where author complains about the ceaseless din of earthquakes. Now, mind you, people did not have quakes recording devices, so that means only earthquakes that were felt were noted.

Relative to that, we live in rather quiet times.
Posted by: twobyfour || 05/12/2008 22:25 Comments || Top||

#34  ION SCIENCE > IRON SNOW HELPS MAINTAIN MERCURY'S MAGNETIC FIELD. Metallic particulates.

HMMMMMM, OLD DREAM/VISION > GOLD DUST wilfully emplaced in Earth's atmosphere. Add to NET claims of "CHEMTRAILS" SPRAYING???

GOLD [Silver/Metals] FUTURES > market manipulation only???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 05/12/2008 22:32 Comments || Top||

#35  Joe, I would not place that much faith in Sitchin's story about Anunaki and their motives for gold-mining.. ;-)
Posted by: twobyfour || 05/12/2008 22:34 Comments || Top||

#36  ION NEWSCIENTIST > WHY DIDN'T THE EARTH FREEZE UNDER A WEAK/FAINT YOUNG SUN; + SUN'S FICKLE HEART MAY LEAVE US OUT IN THE COLD.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 05/12/2008 22:59 Comments || Top||

#37  Joe nails it again!
Posted by: Muggsy Gling || 05/12/2008 23:42 Comments || Top||

#38  "there is nothing artificial about earthquakes"

-cobra commander
Posted by: Snash Oppressor of the Mohammatans aka Broadhead6 || 05/12/2008 23:54 Comments || Top||


Burma cyclone: now aid workers warn of refugee crisis
Do tell ...
Teams of aid experts allowed into the cyclone-ravaged Irrawady delta have returned to Thailand with the bleakest of warnings: Burma is on the brink of a “devastating public health crisis” compounded by an emerging refugee disaster.

But for the hundreds of aid workers who have flown into Bangkok from around the world, the chances of a sudden glut of the precious entry visas appeared slimmer by the hour. Rumours have begun circulating between international aid organisations that the Burmese regime is preparing to close its doors altogether: a decision, warned UN-affiliated aid workers, that will cost the lives of thousands.

Although some medical and food supplies have begun to trickle into the country – a cargo plane chartered by the International Committee of the Red Cross carrying 35 tons of aid was one of the latest to land – disaster experts said that the shipments fell far short of what was needed.

Stephan Goetghebuer, a director of operations at Medecins Sans Frontieres said that while the Burmese authorities had allowed just enough leeway for a few aid shipments “it's no more than a drip-feed, really, given a serious response is more than required.”

Dysentery, diarrhoea and other diseases would, said medical observers, tear through the storm’s survivors as they struggle to rebuild their lives.

Warehouses full of unsent medical and food supplies are a rising source of fury among aid groups. But the lack of expertise on the ground is also significantly heightening the crisis – the junta’s stonewall tactics against foreign aid distributors means that many of the world’s foremost specialists in disasters are pacing around their offices in Bangkok just a few hundred miles from where they believe they should be.
And the generals don't exactly have a track record of caring for their citizens, or allowing the citizens to care for themselves ...
The frustrated aid workers are not the only ones waiting in Thailand with rising dread for the situation there and growing rage with the behaviour of the Burmese authorities.

Khin, who works as a gardener in Bangkok, is one of the hundreds of thousands of Burmese living in Thailand with family back home – family that he has not heard from and now believes have been claimed by the cyclone. Over the weekend, large numbers of Burmese migrants protested outside their own embassy in Bangkok, demanding that the regime abandon its objection to foreign aid. Holding a page of newspaper bearing aerial photographs of the devastation, Khin weeps as he thinks of his sister and her family: “it is terrible not to know, but it is worst to think that they might have been saved if the foreign aid had been allowed in.”

So far, only a few of the assessment teams that would normally be on the scene to establish the scale of the problem have been allowed into Burma to do their jobs. For the logisticians, doctors, water specialists and other aid workers, the teams now returning are expected to deliver an extremely grim picture of what is needed to ensure the survival of an estimated 1.5 million people affected by the cyclone.

After three days probing the worst-affected parts of the country, returning assessment teams said that the Burmese junta’s de facto blockade on large-scale foreign assistance is now in danger of creating a separate refugee crisis.

Tens of thousands of people left homeless by Cyclone Nargis have, until now, stayed put and held out in the desperate hope that food, shelter and medical supplies would come to them eventually. But because more than a week has now past and nothing has arrived, many have set off in search of salvation.

One of the teams sent by the aid group WorldVision said it discovered 30,000 such refugees encamped around the village of Myaung mya. “These are desperate people who, after a week of waiting, are giving up on the aid response and heading off in search of food and shelter," said Chris Webster, one of dozens of WorldVision workers effectively trapped in Bangkok waiting for Burmese visas.

Aid workers who have flown into Bangkok from around the world said that the weekend had been a crucible of frustration and anger with the Burmese regime. Emotions have swung wildly between hope and despair as the odd visa application has been processed, only for hundreds of others to sink without a trace.

This morning optimism was triggered by news that the former prime minister of Thailand, Surayud Chulanont, was planning to lead a delegation to Naypyidaw in a last-ditch bid to persuade the junta to open its borders to large-scale foreign assistance. But by those hopes faded as the junta re-iterated its position that only the Burmese government would be allowed to distribute whatever aid was sent in.
Posted by: Steve White || 05/12/2008 01:18 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  SPACEWAR > PARTS OF MYANMAR STILL CUT OFF.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 05/12/2008 3:17 Comments || Top||

#2  ASIA-PACIFIC "EARTH CHANGES" > GUAM-WESTPAC, etc > CITIZEN KANE = The Carriers, the Carriers [USN][Rosebud].

OTOH, SPACEWAR > THE REVIVED US FOURTH FLEET - AN ISSUE OF NEW [US]GUNBOAT DIPLOMACY?
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 05/12/2008 3:21 Comments || Top||

#3  Life is tough. It's tougher when you're stupid.--John Wayne.
Posted by: Thaimble Scourge of the Pixies4707 || 05/12/2008 3:57 Comments || Top||

#4  You can die on your knees or you can die fighting. History has shown the large capacity of people to do the latter.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 05/12/2008 9:00 Comments || Top||


Burma toll 'could reach 1 million if disease set in'
Relief deliveries into cyclone-hit Burma increased today but aid groups said supplies fell far short of the enormous need and that foreign experts were still barred from the country.

A cargo plane chartered by the International Committee of the Red Thingy Cross (ICRTC) carrying 35 tonnes of aid was one of the latest to arrive. The ICRTC said the medical supplies on board were sufficient to treat some 250 trauma patients and provide three months of basic health care for 10,000 people. The plane was also carrying sanitation equipment, including a mobile water-treatment plant to provide drinking water for 10,000 people, it said.
A literal drop in the bucket ...
But other aid groups warned of a growing catastrophe. “It’s really crucial that people get access to clean water sources and sanitation to avoid unnecessary deaths and suffering,” Sarah Ireland, Oxfam regional chief, said. She said the death toll from the May 3 cyclone could go up to 100,000, a figure also suggested by other aid groups. “There are all the factors for a public health catastrophe which could multiply that death toll by up to 15 times,” she said.

Cyclone Nargis, which smashed into the rice-growing Irrawaddy Delta region in the country’s south on May 3, left 60,000 people dead or missing, according to an official toll.

The junta, deeply suspicious of the outside world, has refused to let in foreign experts who specialise in getting aid to disaster victims, and said that only the government would be allowed to distribute emergency supplies.

“Some opening-up on the part of the (Myanmar) authorities is allowing us to get these materials to their destination,” said Stephan Goetghebuer, director of operations of medical charity Medicins Sans Frontieres. “But it’s no more than a drip-feed, really, given a serious response is more than required. We still need more back-up aid and personnel ready to leave,” he added.

“Clearly our priority is to ensure victims of this terrible disaster access to clean drinking water, shelter, food and health care,” said Pierre-Andre Conod, head of the ICRC’s delegation in Myanmar.

“It’s not true that nothing is happening at all, but not enough is happening,” said Frank Smithuis, Myanmar country manager for MSF.

The medical charity said that a cargo plane carrying 35 tonnes of shelters, water-treatment equipment, first-aid supplies and food was en route from France.

A second plane, an Airbus A300 combining aid from MSF and the French Red Thingy Cross, was also due to depart, but remained grounded due to flyover restrictions applied by unnamed countries.
Wonder if it begins with a 'C' and ends with an 'a' ...
A second joint load was also scheduled to depart on Monday and MSF said a flight would leave Belgium on Sunday after having obtained landing authorisation from Yangon.

MSF said it was working overtime to have shipments ready as and when they receive green lights, with another plane also on standby in Jakarta for the coming days.

The international community has spoken out in increasingly concerned tones over Yangon’s apparent sluggishness or suspicion when it comes to taking up offers of overseas and even non-governmental aid. Both President Nicolas Sarkozy of France and the German Chancellor, Angela Merkel, spoke on Saturday of their dismay at Myanmar’s stance, with each having pressed the United Nations Security Council to intervene. The UN has itself said that a week after Cyclone Nargis hit, only one-quarter of the victims have received any help at all, and it has called the relief effort“a race against time."
Posted by: Steve White || 05/12/2008 01:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  FOX NEWS > Myanmar cyclone death toll may as high as 28,000 and is still expected to climb.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 05/12/2008 1:35 Comments || Top||

#2  Of course, it's the US's fault. Algore said so.
Posted by: Spot || 05/12/2008 8:08 Comments || Top||

#3  "A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic." - Stalin

Note how much the MSM plays on the death of soldier in Iraq versus the deaths of tens of thousands in Darfur. One is a tool to use against Bush, the other not so. Millions will die and it's not as important if they can't be used as a tool in the hands of media.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 05/12/2008 8:58 Comments || Top||

#4  Short answer, the "Junta" should ring us up when the need help. Otherwise, stay the hell out of it.
Posted by: Besoeker || 05/12/2008 9:03 Comments || Top||

#5  no word as of tis morning's commute in as to how many US military planeloads of aid arrived in Oklahoma, Missouri or Georgia following the weekend tonados.
Just sayin.......
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 05/12/2008 14:28 Comments || Top||

#6  "1 million less to repress" - junta
Posted by: Crolusing tse Tung2778 || 05/12/2008 15:08 Comments || Top||

#7  REDDIT/TOPIX > UN ESTIMATES 220,OOO MISSING FROM MYANMAR CYCLONE.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 05/12/2008 22:26 Comments || Top||


Africa Subsaharan
Zim opposition seeks peacekeepers for run-off
Zimbabwe's main opposition group said on Sunday it had stepped up efforts to secure regional peacekeepers for a run-off presidential election against Robert Mugabe after weeks of violence that intimidated voters.

Movement for Democratic Change leader Morgan Tsvangirai held talks late on Saturday with Angola's President Jose Eduardo dos Santos to encourage regional group SADC to send the peacekeepers, MDC spokesman George Sibotshiwe told Reuters. "He received a warm reception, and ... they discussed the way forward," Sibotshiwe said, but declined to give details.

Tsvangirai said on Saturday he would return home within two days to deal Mugabe a "final knock-out" after almost three decades in power. He said he wanted SADC peacekeepers to instil public confidence in the ballot and bring an end to the crisis that followed Zimbabwe's disputed March 29 poll. Santos heads SADC's security committee.

Angola's Angop news agency said Tsvangirai had told reporters that "should he win the election ... the outgoing president would be granted an honourable exit as ... Robert Mugabe was the father of the nation".

A former guerrilla leader, Mugabe has ruled Zimbabwe since independence from Britain in 1980. The West and rights groups accuse him of human rights violations and wrecking the economy, but he is viewed as an independence hero by many in Africa.

After weeks of equivocation, Tsvangirai said he would contest the run-off even though he believes he won outright in the first round and accuses the ruling ZANU-PF of vote-rigging. Official results show Tsvangirai won more votes than Mugabe, but not enough to avoid a run-off.
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Zimbabwe Likely to Delay Presidential Run-Off
Zimbabwe's electoral commission says the run-off between President Robert Mugabe and challenger Morgan Tsvangirai will not be held within two weeks as required by law. Mr. Tsvangirai announced Saturday that he would take part in the run-off, saying the vote should be held by May 24. He said international observers should be allowed to monitor the vote, and he also demanded the presence of regional peacekeepers.

Zimbabwe's Justice Minister, Patrick Chinamasa rejected any conditions, saying the vote will be held within the framework of the country's electoral laws.
Posted by: Fred || 05/12/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Sounds like they'll need a bit more than two weeks to plan and execute Tsvangirai's murder.
Posted by: Besoeker || 05/12/2008 7:56 Comments || Top||

#2  I don't know why they bother, Bob won't release the results until they show him winning anyway.
Posted by: Ebbusosing Turkeyneck5754 || 05/12/2008 10:40 Comments || Top||

#3  I wish the president would run-off right now.
Posted by: gorb || 05/12/2008 21:35 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Young Saudis, Vexed and Entranced by Love’s Rules
Posted by: ryuge || 05/12/2008 07:49 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Bunch of inbred losers.
Posted by: Jitch, Scourge of the Veal Cutlets || 05/12/2008 9:39 Comments || Top||

#2  Good God, kill yourselves.
Posted by: Black Bart Snaiting7183 || 05/12/2008 9:44 Comments || Top||

#3  Then the young man stepped into the cool, empty lobby of a dental clinic, intent on getting the phone number of one of the young women working as a receptionist.
Nader: "You might have the eyelashes of a prize camel, baby!"
woman: "hu humm, I'm over here, you are talking to the drapes."
Nadar: "Aaagh, so embarassed, face looks like a baboon butt...wait, is a baboon an ape, am I turing into a jooo!? So confused, the drapes must have had a jinn living in them."

Above all, Nader feared that his cousin Enad al-Mutairi would find out that he was breaking the rules. Nader is engaged to Enad’s 17-year-old sister, Sarah. “Please don’t talk to Enad about this,” he said. “He will kill me.”
Which makes Sarah his cousin. An old maid at 17, they must be willing to overlook that detail so to get her married off.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 05/12/2008 11:31 Comments || Top||

#4  Well, she's no 8 year old, but she'll have to do.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 05/12/2008 14:50 Comments || Top||

#5  I wonder if their hostility is just a mask for their frustration.
Posted by: gorb || 05/12/2008 21:25 Comments || Top||


Europe
Denmark: Parliament OK's use of cluster bombs
After initially seeking a complete ban on the military's use of cluster bombs, the Social Democrats and Social Liberals decided to compromise with the government and its supporting parties in allowing the controversial weapons under certain conditions, reported public broadcaster DR.

The two parties agreed that the military must now get approval from parliament before using the bombs, a proposal they and the Liberal-Conservative government, along with its supporting parties the Danish People's Party and the New Alliance, passed on Wednesday.

Cluster bombs are large bombs containing several smaller ones that launch themselves from the shell once it falls to a certain altitude. There are several different kinds of cluster bombs, but most have been criticised by humanitarian organisations as being indiscriminate and being responsible for extensive civilian casualties.

There is as yet no international ban on the bombs.
Don't worry, the progressives will keep trying ...
Søren Gade, the defence minister, said the military was now getting rid of one of its two types of cluster bombs, but claimed the reliability of the ones it is keeping had not been at issue in a recent Norwegian report on the subject.

Ove Dullum, one of the report's authors, argued there was basically no difference between the two types of cluster bombs. 'If you're going to get rid of one then you may as well chuck the other as well,' he said.
"Might as well surrender, there's no difference," he added.
The report states that one of the biggest problems with cluster bombs is that many of the smaller bombs ejected from the shell do not explode after hitting the ground, often detonating later after being inadvertently disturbed.

MPs from the Socialist People's Party and the Red-Green Alliance voted against the proposal and stuck to their call for a full ban on the controversial weapons.

The military currently has around 27,000 cluster bombs it will keep for battle and tactical bombing purposes.
Posted by: mrp || 05/12/2008 11:23 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Good news.

Bullets coated in pig fat are a logical next step.
Posted by: Excalibur || 05/12/2008 13:06 Comments || Top||

#2  Excalibur, remember the Sepoy Rebellion of 1857:
The final spark was provided by the controversy over the new Pattern 1853 Enfield Rifle. To load the new rifle, the sepoys had to bite the cartridge open. It was believed that the paper cartridges that were standard issue with the rifle were greased with lard (pork fat) which was regarded as unclean by Muslims, or tallow (beef fat), regarded as sacred to Hindus.[15]. East India Company officers first became aware of the impending trouble over the cartridges in January, when they received reports of an altercation between a high-caste sepoy and a low-caste labourer at Dum Dum.[16] The labourer had taunted the sepoy that by biting the cartridge, he had himself lost caste, although at this time the Dum-Dum arsenal had not actually started to produce the new round, nor had a single practice shot fired.[17] On January 27 Colonel Richard Birch (the Military Secretary) ordered that all cartridges issued from depots were to be free from grease, and that Sepoys could grease them themselves using whatever mixture ‘they may prefer’.[18] This however, merely caused many Sepoys to be convinced that the rumours were true and that their fears were justified.
Posted by: RWV || 05/12/2008 14:15 Comments || Top||

#3  When's the last time denmark actually dropped a bomb on anybody?
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 05/12/2008 14:51 Comments || Top||

#4  Victor Borge.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 05/12/2008 14:58 Comments || Top||

#5  ION DIGG > POST-OIL NORWAY CONSIDERS WINDPOWER.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 05/12/2008 21:43 Comments || Top||

#6  bigjim-ky, not recently, but it is prudent to keep 'em handy
Posted by: Globular Cluster || 05/12/2008 22:36 Comments || Top||

#7  I worked with the Danish AF (FFV & FMV) back in the 80's and they are as professional as any AF in the world. Their politicians may not be much, but their pilots are first rate.
Posted by: RWV || 05/12/2008 23:18 Comments || Top||


Election Monitors: Pro-Europeans Winning 'Convincingly' in Serbia
Posted by: Fred || 05/12/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Home Front: Politix
Democrat Fratricide: Hillary = George Wallace!
Jim Geraghty, National Review

For Instapundit's old "Cats and dogs living together!" category: Joe Conason of Salon is comparing Hillary Clinton to "a reincarnation of the late George Wallace."

UPDATE: On another racially-tense note in the Democratic primary, I saw that over at MyDD, after Obama won North Carolina with an overwhelming majority of the African-American vote, a commenter grumbled, "actually [African-American votes] should count less because they'll always vote for the Democrat. They are not a swing vote. We need to win other groups as well."

The subsequent poster suggests three-fifths.

ANOTHER UPDATE: Cokie Roberts plays the gender card:

COKIE: Well, because what she was doing was describing what her vote was. And her description was 100 percent accurate. It’s become very difficult in this country to use words like "white." I must say, through this campaign I have found it interesting and disturbing that even though we are happily at a place in our history where it is not appropriate, and considered inappropriate, to say anything negative about race, it is apparently just fine to say things negative about sex. And we certainly saw that in the course of this campaign.

Could Roberts be referring to the fact that over at AmericaBlog, they post pictures of Monica Lewinsky, jaw agape, when they object to comments from Hillary? (John, good idea. I was going to go with that concept in the general, but go ahead.)

Meanwhile, liberal bloggers assess the subtle and complicated political dynamics of Democratic primary voters in West Virginia:

Booman Tribune: "West Virginia isn't going to look beyond the color of John McCain and Barack Obama's skin to make up their minds about who they vote for. I know there are many fine people in West Virginia, just as there are everywhere. But I can't consider it a problem that Obama doesn't appeal to these voters."

Liberal Values: "Hillbillies for Hillary... I'm not surprised that socially conservative areas are going to go for the socially conservative Clinton over the socially liberal Obama. Add racism and an area more prone than most to fall for the usual conservative scare tactics and lies and a Clinton landslide is inevitable."

Oliver Willis: "'I want someone who is a full-blooded American as president.' Ah, there's West Virginia being exactly the West Virginia most of us think it is."

Commenters at Huffington Post: "To bad [sic] for the people who live in WV and KY who are not racist and I know there are some, unfortunately they are outnumbered. These sates [sic] will be forever remembered as 'the racist states' -- I would move." "Even if there was no 'bittergate' or Jeremiah Wright , WV would not vote for a black man under any circumstances... Obama should not campaign in WV. It is not a safe place to be!" "Because they are mostly white trash. We all know it's true but we can not say it."

Other liberal bloggers are starting to object to the portrayal of West Virginians as "Cletus the slack-jawed yokel" from the Simpsons.
Posted by: Mike || 05/12/2008 15:43 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The so-called liberals are about the least liberal of any group. They try to impose their tyranny on everyone else.
Posted by: JohnQC || 05/12/2008 16:54 Comments || Top||

#2  If they choose Hillary over BO, they are racists.
If they choose BO over Hillary, they are sexists.
If they choose someone else, they are BOTH racist AND sexist.

The world must look awfully dreary through lenses that only show you race, class and gender.
Posted by: Grenter Protector of the Geats4975 || 05/12/2008 17:13 Comments || Top||

#3  Liberalism is a party line. If you don't tow it and in the right way you are thrown out.

Stalin and communism worked this way too and see where it got them.
Posted by: DarthVader || 05/12/2008 17:37 Comments || Top||

#4  I went to the sites listed in the article, and man oh man are the Dems deep into fratricide! Obama supporters writing off ENTIRE states as "racist", Hillary supporters screaming about "sexism", but each and every one insisting that the Dem candidate will "absolutely win in November". What they don't seem to realize is that NO major party candidate can win simply by carrying their party; they MUST carry crossover and independent votes. Scorched earth punditry towards whole states is NOT a winning strategy for any candidate, and there is such a thing as a F*ck You vote in politics. Piss on enough voters long enough and they will remember from the Primary until the General Election and vote for your opponent to say "F*ck You!"
Posted by: Shieldwolf || 05/12/2008 17:51 Comments || Top||

#5  West Virginians racist? Definitely not, apart from certain laundry wearing Democrat Senators.
Posted by: Albert Thusong6840 || 05/12/2008 22:12 Comments || Top||

#6  COUNTERTERRORISM BLOG > MEMRI > ISLAMIST FORUM MEMBER - BUSH TO BE TARGETED FOR ASSASSINATION [Sniper?] DURING VISIT TO SAUDI ARABIA???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 05/12/2008 23:20 Comments || Top||


Obama's Inability to Hire Good Help Rears Its Head … Again
Jake Tapper, ABC's "Political Punch" Blog

We started covering Sen. Barack Obama's inability to hire good staffers in June 2007, when he blamed staffers for some opposition research trying to link Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, to outsourcing in India; for injecting some venom in the David Geffen/Hillary Clinton fight; and for missing an event with firefighters in New Hampshire.

In December, we noted again that Obama was blaming the answers on a 1996 questionnaire on a staffer; and was blaming his touring with "cured" ex-gay gospel singer Donnie McClurkin (which antagonized gays and lesbians) on bad vetting by his staff.

Those five buck-passing incidents were apparently not enough. . . .

There follows a litany of staff errors--or rather, of errors blamed on staff.

Before we even get to ideology . . . do you want this guy hiring the next Secretary of Defense?
Posted by: Mike || 05/12/2008 15:08 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  What ever happened to the Global Poverty Act sponsored by Barack Obama that would give away a big chunk of our wealth and result in a hugh welfare program for third world countries? Guess where the money would come from? You guessed it, the American taxpayers.
Posted by: JohnQC || 05/12/2008 17:43 Comments || Top||

#2  HMMMMM, HMMMMMM, "Litany of Staff errors" > DARE HILLARY = NEW RUSS PRIME MINSTER PUTIN, setting up PREZ MEDVEDEV's Govt.???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 05/12/2008 20:51 Comments || Top||

#3  I think Obama ability to assemble a good staff ought to be held to the same standards that Dems have held W to.
Posted by: gorb || 05/12/2008 21:18 Comments || Top||


Hillary's membership in secret right-wing evangelical cabal revealed! (again)
Jeff Sharlett, The New Republic
This shocking! development was reported by Barbara Ehrenreich in The Nation two months ago. (And duly mocked here in Rantburg.) Strangely enough, TNR does not give Ehrenreich credit as a source.
Clinton, an evangelically inclined Methodist, is by far the most religiously rooted and theologically astute of the three candidates, a Christian intellectual schooled in the cold war religion of Reinhold Niebuhr's post-leftist years.

Clinton's faith is not the liberal version of Christianity that Democratic leaders have traditionally invoked--instead, her version, exemplified by her alliance with a shadowy network of powerful conservative Christians,
Eeeeeek! Christers! Aaaaahh, get 'em off me!
is steeped in the kind of establishmentarianism that she has otherwise tried to distance herself from throughout the primary season.
That'd make her antidisestablishmentarian, I'd guess. What's her position on the homoöusian controversy?
Clinton's formal introduction to the publicity-shy network of mostly evangelical elites in government, military, and business known to the world as The Fellowship--and to its adherents as The Family--came at a lunch organized on her behalf in February 1993 at the Cedars, "an estate on the Potomac that serves as the headquarters for the National Prayer Breakfast and the prayer groups it has spawned around the world," as she wrote in Living History.
She attends prayer breakfasts! She probably even eats the French toast!!!
"Doug Coe, the longtime National Prayer Breakfast organizer"--and the de facto leader of the The Family, dubbed by Time the "Stealth Persuader"--
aka Good Pope Doug...
"is a unique presence in Washington: a genuinely loving spiritual mentor and guide to anyone, regardless of party or faith, who wants to deepen his or her relationship with God."
With my own eyes I've seen him turn water into root beer.
When Clinton moved to the Senate, she became a regular at a weekly Senate prayer meeting led by Coe, and rumor spread among evangelical elites that she was seeking individual spiritual counsel with Coe.
Eeeeew! Ick! Gross!
Of course, The Family no more owns Hillary than Jeremiah Wright's beliefs define Obama's or John Hagee will choose John McCain's bombing targets. For one thing, Hillary is not a member of Coe's Family.
(which kind of undermines the preceeding 2,500 words of alarmism)
Rather, she's a "Friend," a semi-formal designation that marks her as less elect than a member but more chosen than the rest of us. Her goals are not always their goals, but, when they coincide, Hillary and Family members work well together, as on initiatives to reframe workplace religious freedom as a license for religious discrimination and international religious freedom as a justification for an interventionist foreign policy. As with Wright and Obama, the problem is not whom Clinton knows, but the ideas she shares.
Don't elect her! She'll get Christer cooties all over the Democratic Party!

It's interesting to note the comments from TNR readers following the article. Nobody questions the accuracy of TNR's characterization of the group. (They're subscribers and true believers of the moonbat faith. To question TNR would be apostacy! Blasphemy, even!) Nobody asks if we should be similarly concerned that Obama is one of them damned superstitious fundo-Christers too. One commentrer does wonder aloud, "Would anyone besides me relish the opportunity to vote for a politician who--cough, sputter--was, you know--ahem--an atheist?"
Posted by: Mike || 05/12/2008 11:50 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I only read the first page of the article, but it sounds to me like Candidate Clinton used the group to widen her web of supportive contacts during her husband's time as president, thus supporting his ambitions. It also sounds like she was not the only political wife there for that reason. Finally, I can see her glorying in her part in her political partnership with her husband. What's the big deal?
Posted by: trailing wife || 05/12/2008 13:45 Comments || Top||

#2  What? You mean she has become a member of the "vast right wing conspiracy?"
Posted by: JohnQC || 05/12/2008 16:55 Comments || Top||

#3  If these jackasses can't recognize a milksop "social gospel" Methodist when they see one, then to hell with them. They're the sort of imbeciles to whom every church service is the meeting of a cabal of conspirators. It's like listening to the more reactionary Catholics wimble on about freemasonry.
Posted by: Mitch H. || 05/12/2008 17:03 Comments || Top||


Face it, Democrats: Barack Obama's got a growing problem with whites
... Nearly half of the voters in North Carolina and Indiana said Wright was an important issue for them.
That's because Wright hates them. The question in their minds is whether B.O. does, too, but isn't saying so.
Then there is an April poll by The Associated Press that found "about 8% of whites would be uncomfortable voting for a black for President."
There's always an 8-10 percent bottom to any bell curve, isn't there?
According to a May Newsweek poll, 12% of voters said they thought most Americans would "have reservations about voting for a black candidate that they are not willing to express"; 41% said they thought some Americans would have such reservations. To some, any reference to such numbers is desperate at best - and race-baiting at worst.
Sounds more like the facts of life, unpleasant though that may be. It's also the background noise of politix.
"I have much broader base to build a winning coalition on," Clinton told USA Today this week, making clear that she consistently does better among white, working-class voters. "There is a pattern emerging here."

That prompted The New York Times editorial page to write: "Yes, there is a pattern - a familiar and unpleasant one," making reference to charges that during the primary campaign the Clinton camp has used veiled racial attacks against Obama.

Howard Dean, the chairman of the Democratic National Committee, is living in similar denial. If the GOP brings up Wright during the fall campaign, Dean said recently, it will amount to "race-baiting...just like Willie Horton was race-baiting so many years ago."
"God damn America" isn't race baiting. I feel approximately the same way toward Rev. Wright as I do toward Bill Ayers tromping the flag, which is to say not particularly well-disposed.
Obama has run a brilliant campaign. He has won over many white voters by making them proud to vote for a supremely educated and capable man who, at his best, makes race a secondary concern. It is not inconsistent, unfair or unsavory to point out, at the same time, that Obama has been growing weaker over the months in his ability to win all but black voters. Nor am I necessarily suggesting that white voters are drifting from him because of his race - as opposed to judgments about the content of his character or candidacy.
He's an airhead of no particular accomplishment, a Chicago ward-heeler made good. I don't like his wife because she comes across as a snotty, condescending kind of person. If he was white, he'd still be an airhead of no particular accomplishment, similar to lots of other politicians I don't like. His race is the least of the factors I don't like about him.
This is about facing facts. And history will reflect poorly on Democrats if they believe it is virtuous to ignore race in the name of nominating the first black candidate for the White House - even if it means giving the Republicans a better chance to once again walk away with the big prize of the presidency.
Posted by: Fred || 05/12/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Axelrod, BO's minder, has already stated that the white working-class vote has gone Rep since before Clinton. He's written them off. I wonder how many whites from all economic segments will get that clear message--of being written off--before November. I suspect it's going to be a large number. BO's going to get 98% of the largest black vote ever. My prediction is that he'll get a great turnout from them and from white academics/libs--and that's it. The remainder of the population will go for Johnny Mac and BO will get a 40+ state butt-kicking. Maybe there will be a black president someday, but I don't think BO is it. If there is to be a black president, he'll have to be a Republican.
Posted by: Thaimble Scourge of the Pixies4707 || 05/12/2008 3:46 Comments || Top||

#2  sounds like the african american and egg-head argument. I would maintain that BO will become the nominee simply because Hillary Clinton is a mad psycho-bitch whom sane people simply can't vote for. If Obama loses the general election it will not be because he couldn't pull working class whites due to the fact that they are white, but because they can see that Obama previously hung with dangerous anti-american bedfellows and they find that unbecoming of a presidential candidate.
Posted by: Sninert Black9312 || 05/12/2008 3:57 Comments || Top||

#3  He lost it at "bitter and clingy". Analyze all you want, but that's where he went wrong. Nothing - not Rev. Wright, not Michelle Obama, not even his silly and unworkable policies, damaged him as much as those few sentences in San Francisco.
Posted by: no mo uro || 05/12/2008 5:37 Comments || Top||

#4  So as long as McCain mentions Wright and Ayers together, it'll be O.K. with us progressives.

Soon, you'll abbreviate "Wright and Ayers" as "Waa". With a silent "h"
Posted by: Progressive Bobby || 05/12/2008 6:19 Comments || Top||

#5  Or, according to Tim Blair, here If Clinton and Obama were both male and white, they'd be judged unremarkable, inexperienced and blunder-prone. Identity politics - a leftist speciality by which a candidate is elevated via racial or gender characteristics - have launched this pair to a level they'd otherwise not have reached.

Which I think pretty well sums it up.
Posted by: Bobby || 05/12/2008 6:27 Comments || Top||

#6  The question isn't whether people are willing to vote for the Generic Black Guy (or the Generic Woman, Generic Mormon, Generic Catholic, Generic [insert identity here])--"Generic" is never on the ballot. The question is, do people want to vote for this particular candidate.

I'd be happy to vote for J.C. Watts, or Michael Steele, or Ken Blackwell . . . Barak Obama, not so much.
Posted by: Mike || 05/12/2008 6:45 Comments || Top||

#7  Obama did well in the beginning because he was a fresh face who offered an alternative to the jerks we have in office now. That he didn't look like them was an advantage. Then we got to find out who he really is. And the bloom was off the dahlia.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 05/12/2008 7:16 Comments || Top||

#8  Then there is an April poll by The Associated Press that found "about 8% of whites would be uncomfortable voting for a black for President."

Compared to the 89% of black voters who swore an oath never to vote for a honky.
Posted by: Black Bart Snaiting7183 || 05/12/2008 9:53 Comments || Top||

#9  Obama is a typical, snobbish elitist that I feel is racist on top of it all with no real world experience leading anything except a victim parade to a new socialist paradise.

That is why I will never vote for him.
Posted by: DarthVader || 05/12/2008 10:59 Comments || Top||

#10  My dream ticket has always been Fred Thompson and Condoleeza Rice, in either order. Guess that makes me bitter.
Posted by: RWV || 05/12/2008 11:05 Comments || Top||

#11  Compared to the 89% of black voters who swore an oath never to vote for a honky.

In 2004 they voted for Kerry (white).

In 2000 they voted for Gore (white).

In 1996 they voted for Clinton (white).

etc.

You get the idea. Let's keep clear heads here; otherwise we're in danger of sounding like the Daily Kos. Black voters will go for Obama just like most Italian voters would have gone for Guiliani, and most Mormons would have gone for Romney. There is ethnic, racial and religious identification in politics, particularly the first time one of your own makes good. That's just the way it is.

I'm not angry at black voters for voting for Obama, though I wish they'd see that many of the man's positions don't help black American in the long term.
Posted by: Steve White || 05/12/2008 11:15 Comments || Top||

#12  ... Clinton told USA Today this week, making clear that she consistently does better among white, working-class voters.

Can you imagine the explosion we'd see if Johnny Mac told the media that he planned to do better among white, working-class voters? I guess it's different when a Democrat says it.
Posted by: Steve White || 05/12/2008 11:18 Comments || Top||

#13  well said, Steve.
Posted by: Sninert Black9312 || 05/12/2008 11:23 Comments || Top||

#14  Steve,

Why is it that when blacks break 95-5 for Obama that's not racist while if whites break 65-35 for Clinton, that IS racist? Serious double standard there.

I can't see voting for Obama under any circumstances, but I suspect if he gets elected his first two years would be trying to run hard left like BJ with a LOT of "jobs for the (black) boys" thrown in. That would probably get him the same response it got BJ--a raging Republican majority again in both House and Senate.
Posted by: Thaimble Scourge of the Pixies4707 || 05/12/2008 11:49 Comments || Top||

#15  Because only whitey can be Racist.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 05/12/2008 12:20 Comments || Top||

#16  His view of foreign relations is that the UN is a good thing and America should be subordinate to them. Strike one !
His view of the domestic social situation is that blacks have been delt a bad hand and require federal dollars to compensate. Strike two !
His domestic economic view is that his wife got a $2000,000 raise the day after he became senator and ha said nothing. His pal Rev. Wright is building a $1,600,000 home from the collection plate, and he says nothing. His economic view is elitist. YEERRRR OUT !
Posted by: wxjames || 05/12/2008 12:27 Comments || Top||

#17  Steve: I'm not angry at black voters for voting for Obama

Why not? They are also voting for Truther history, chickens coming home to roost and AIDS as a government plot to kill black people. Voting for Obama because he is black is not only racist, it is mentally and morally retarded. I would say the same thing about Italians voting for Giuliani or Mormons voting for Romney if either man was associated with comparable evil.
Posted by: Excalibur || 05/12/2008 13:10 Comments || Top||

#18  The first time One Of Us makes good, he/she gets our votes. That's human nature, not racism. Then most people get it out of their systems, and vote for the candidate with the program most likely to benefit them. The remainder can be perhaps thought of as anti-everyone-else bigots, or pro-people-like-us bigots, or possibly just not very smart. Remember, most black churches are not in the Black Liberation Theology fold, but as God and Good oriented as most of the rest of the churches in the U.S.
Posted by: trailing wife || 05/12/2008 13:54 Comments || Top||

#19  He's not black enough, he's not white enough, he's not conservative enough, he's not liberal enough!
Posted by: Crolusing tse Tung2778 || 05/12/2008 15:02 Comments || Top||

#20  The truth is that if Obama were white, he would have been dropped after the first 11 primaries; he is just the black John Edwards.
Posted by: Shieldwolf || 05/12/2008 16:21 Comments || Top||

#21  If Obama was the son of a sharecropper, I could see the parallel with Romney & the Mormons or Guiliani & the Italians, although I can pretty well guarantee you that Guiliani would never have gotten anything approaching 95% of the Italian vote.

But Obama isn't the son of a sharecropper. He's the son of some radical tourist of a haole and a perfumed afro-socialist bigamist.

You know what? If it wasn't for his skin color, you could call Obama a whigger. A wannabe. Like any one of about a million pathetic hip-hoppy white boys think they'd be cooler if they were black. He's C. Thomas Howell.
Posted by: Mitch H. || 05/12/2008 17:16 Comments || Top||


Dodd: Obama, Clinton ticket not likely
  • Sen. Chris Dodd: It's "very clear" Obama will be Democratic nominee
  • Obama, Clinton campaigns: Too early to talk about running mates
  • Obama has received a flurry of endorsements in recent days
  • Polls show Clinton with a substantial lead in West Virginia
  • Posted by: Fred || 05/12/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

    #1  NEWSVINE > NOVAK: MICHELLE OBAMA was the one that shot down HILLARY as Barack's VPOTUS???
    Posted by: JosephMendiola || 05/12/2008 3:15 Comments || Top||

    #2  Even Clinton has her standards.
    Posted by: Excalibur || 05/12/2008 13:13 Comments || Top||


    Breck Boy: Clinton Now A Stronger Candidate
    Former Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards said that in recent weeks Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has become a stronger candidate, and has made a compelling base for her continued candidacy for the nomination.

    However, Edwards said, "The math is very, very hard for her," as Sen. Barack Obama continues to lead in pledged delegates (and now in superdelegates). "The problem is, I think, you can no longer make a compelling case for the math.”

    Edwards, D-N.C., told Face The Nation host Bob Schieffer that his own reasons for pulling out of the race for the White House came out of both a recognition that he would not accumulate enough delegates to secure the nomination and that his continued candidacy would likely prolong the selection of a nominee. "It's a hard judgment to make," he said. "The overwhelming likelihood was I would not be the nominee. And I believed, that if I got out of the race, it would accelerate the process of one person pulling away. Well, I was obviously dead wrong about that!"
    Posted by: Fred || 05/12/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

    #1  so, like, since I was totally such a nice guy, maybe Obama will name me as VP

    John Edwards
    Posted by: Sninert Black9312 || 05/12/2008 3:41 Comments || Top||

    #2  "The math is very, very hard..."

    /NC Barbie
    Posted by: Frank G || 05/12/2008 13:04 Comments || Top||

    #3  "The problem is, I think, you can no longer make a compelling case for the math.”

    1+1=3!
    Posted by: Crolusing tse Tung2778 || 05/12/2008 15:05 Comments || Top||


    Clinton Will Stay in Race, Spokesman Wolfson Says
    Hillary Clinton, who lost her lead among party superdelegates this weekend and has $20 million in campaign debt, will continue her fight for the Democratic presidential nomination, her campaign spokesman said. ``Senator Clinton is committed to her supporters and to the voters in the upcoming states to carry this through and secure the nomination,'' campaign spokesman Howard Wolfson said on ``Fox News Sunday.''
    She's waiting for the B.O. campaign to deflate. My guess is that she knows what will deflate it, can't use it, and is waiting for it to come out.
    Paging Mr. Rezko to the white courtesy phone ...
    Clinton, 60, expects to win the West Virginia primary this week, and her previous victories in Pennsylvania and Ohio have persuaded many superdelegates to delay a decision on whether to support her or rival Barack Obama, Wolfson said.
    Rezko didn't work at all. Wright didn't quite work. Ayers literally stomping on the flag didn't quite work. Somewhere, in some private eye's file folder, there's the straw that'll break that camel's back. All she's gotta do is figure how to get it out there with no fingerprints on it...
    Rezko didn't work ... yet. If he's found guilty and decides to sing, it'll be interesting to hear what he warbles ...
    Clinton's campaign suffered a setback yesterday when Obama, 46, won endorsements from five superdelegates, erasing Clinton's long-held lead in backing from party officials and lawmakers. Obama now leads Clinton in the popular vote and the number of pledged delegates and superdelegates who will decide the nominee at the party's convention in August. David Axelrod, a spokesman for Obama's campaign, said superdelegates will continue announcing support for Obama, an Illinois senator, because ``we're coming to the end of the process.''
    Posted by: Fred || 05/12/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

    #1  Am sick of popcorn, switching to nachos.
    Posted by: Spike Uniter || 05/12/2008 3:45 Comments || Top||

    #2  Milk Duds! Getcher Milk Duds!
    Posted by: Fred || 05/12/2008 7:31 Comments || Top||

    #3  Raisinetes?
    Posted by: Deacon Blues || 05/12/2008 9:49 Comments || Top||

    #4  Here's a letter in today's Wisconsin State Journal, carrying the title "Is 'Democratic' Party a misnomer?", by one Bill Nicholson.

    The Democratic Party, which prides itself on representing the common man, seems to be all about anything but one person, one vote.

    Democratic voters in Florida and Michigan are currently deprived of any votes at all. Why? Because of their party officials' decision to move up the primaries.

    The caucus is widely accepted to be an undemocratic process. Who has two or four hours or more to devote to this process? The result is the most radical and intense voters prevail.

    Then there are "Weighted Districts." When a district votes decisively Democratic in past general elections, it is allocated more delegates in the next primary. Thus they have more representation than other districts. In one state, the candidate won the popular vote but actually lost the delegate battle. Fancy that.

    Then there are the superdelegates. For what purpose do they exist? It seems the party does not trust its electorate.

    If there actually was one person, one vote, the one candidate would have easily prevailed by now. Maybe next time the Democratic Party can abolish voting altogether and have only caucuses and superdelegates to determine the outcome.

    The Democratic Party is a most un-democratic Party.


    Your observations (keep them civil, please).
    Posted by: mom || 05/12/2008 10:26 Comments || Top||

    #5  Sounds like somebody in Wisconsin listens to Rush after all.
    Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 05/12/2008 10:38 Comments || Top||

    #6  All votes are equal, Mom, but some votes are more equal than others.

    Another entertaining notion for the Dhimmicrats: they, the party of the 'common man', are raising more money from the plutocrats than the Republicans are this year. Wonder how the wealthy plan to get a return on their investment?
    Posted by: Steve White || 05/12/2008 11:21 Comments || Top||

    #7  My guess at this point is she'll take the Ron Paul strategy. Sort of taper off but not admit defeat and hope that Obama implodes enough that superdelegates can switch.
    Posted by: rjschwarz || 05/12/2008 13:53 Comments || Top||


    India-Pakistan
    Nepali Gurhkas may soon not be a part of the Indian Army
    New Delhi, May 12 (IANS)India’s first field marshal, S.H.F.J. Manekshaw, preferred calling himself Sam ‘Bahadur’ as a sign of respect for the brave Gorkha soldiers, most of whom came from Nepal. However, a call by Nepal Maoist chief Prachanda not to allow them to join the Indian army could impact on traditional military ties between the two countries. “If anyone says he is not afraid of anything, either he is lying or he is a Gorkha,” Manekshaw once said.

    However, Prachanda, who is poised to head the government in the Himalayan nation, told reporters April 25 that Nepali Gorkhas should not be allowed to join Indian defence forces.

    There are two types of Gorkhas in the Indian Army - those hailing from India (who have migrated from Nepal long ago), and the others from Nepal. Under a tripartite agreement signed between India, Nepal and Britain in 1947, Gorkhas from Nepal were allowed to work in the British and Indian armies. Currently, nearly 40,000 Nepali Gorkhas are employed in the Indian Army.

    “Nepali Gorkhas have been part of the Indian Army for a very long time. If they are stopped from joining the army then the association between the armies and also the countries will be affected,” former Chief of Army Staff Gen. Ved Prakash Malik told IANS.

    “Besides the large number of Nepali Gorkha soldiers, we also have a large number of pensioners in the country. The pensioners are looked after by us only. We have opened hospitals and other facilities at Kathmandu and other parts of Nepal,” Malik added. In some villages in eastern Nepal, about half of the families have one or more pensioners from the Indian Army.

    India and Nepal share such a close relationship that the Indian Army chief is honorary chief of the Nepali Army traditionally and vice-versa.

    “It is not just a question of strength but also our proximity and tradition,” said Malik.

    Besides impacting the age-old ties between the two nations, Prachanda’s demand, if acceded to, can lead to anarchy in Nepal due to large-scale unemployment, say military experts here.

    “The Indian Army and the British Army - which also has a Gorkha regiment - are a major source of employment for Nepali youth. There can be unrest in the Himalayan kingdom, leading to a big problem,” Major General (retd) Afsar Karim told IANS.

    Prachanda’s call has put the Gorkhas in a moral dilemma - of choosing a life in their country or one that will ensure livelihood and sustenance.

    “The Nepali Gorkha soldiers send a lot of money back home, contributing in a big way to the Nepali economy,” an army official said.

    However, experts do not see any major operational problem for the Indian Army if the Nepali Gorkahs are forbidden from joining.

    “If Prachanda’s demand ever materialises, the Indian Army would not be affected operationally as the army has reduced considerably the number of Gorkhas,” Karim added.

    The first battalion of the Gorkha regiment was raised during British rule in 1815. The Gorkhas have served the Indian Army with valour since then.

    Gorkhas have played a crucial role in India’s three wars with Pakistan (1947-48, 1965 and 1971) and during the India-China conflict in 1962. A Gorkha battalion served with distinction as part of the Indian Army contingent in the United Nations Operations in the Congo (now Zaire) in the 1960s.
    Posted by: john frum || 05/12/2008 15:48 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

    #1  If I recall correctly, Nepalese boys train their entire youth to join the Gurka regiments. If not permitted to do so, there will be a large contingent of unhappy, mostly trained young men with competent retirees to officer and NCO them. Mr. Prachanda would be wise not to irritate such a group.
    Posted by: trailing wife || 05/12/2008 19:23 Comments || Top||

    #2  Prachanda is a Maoist. What else would a Maoist do?
    Posted by: Harcourt Jush7795 || 05/12/2008 19:40 Comments || Top||

    #3  Prachanda is a Maoist. What else would a Maoist do?
    Posted by: Harcourt Jush7795 || 05/12/2008 19:40 Comments || Top||

    #4  Prachanda is a Maoist. What else would a Maoist do?
    Posted by: Harcourt Jush7795 || 05/12/2008 19:40 Comments || Top||

    #5  Sorry for the echo.
    Posted by: Harcourt Jush7795 || 05/12/2008 19:41 Comments || Top||

    #6  The next revolt in Nepal may be the families and friends of present day foreign service Gurhkas against the Maoists. And if the Maoists think they can intimidate those people, they are in for a surprise.
    Posted by: Shieldwolf || 05/12/2008 19:47 Comments || Top||

    #7  The next revolt in Nepal may be the families and friends of present day foreign service Gurhkas against the Maoists.

    What are they waiting for? A decade or three of abject misery? They should organize and kill the Maoists now, while they can.
    Posted by: Slats Spirt5225 || 05/12/2008 21:35 Comments || Top||


    PML-N to leave cabinet but not coalition
    The Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) and the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) on Sunday failed to reach a deal on restoring the judges sacked on November 3, and PML-N leader Ahsan Iqbal said his party had no option but to quit the federal cabinet.

    But PML-N President Shahbaz Sharif was still optimistic that the coalition government would stay intact.

    Education Minister Ahsan Iqbal told Daily Times his party might decide to rejoin the cabinet after the judges were restored, but “if there is no hope that the sacked judges will be restored ... our party will quit the cabinet once and for all.”

    Government won’t destabilise: Emerging from a fresh round of talks also involving PML-N’s Khawaja Asif and PPP’s Rahman Malik and Hussein Haqqani, Shahbaz was optimistic that the coalition government would remain intact and said both sides were making sincere efforts to resolve the issue in an amicable way. “We will support the government issue by issue — we will not let the government destabilise,” Shahbaz said while addressing a press conference with Haqqani. “I pray we could iron out these differences and give good news to the nation tomorrow.””
    Posted by: Fred || 05/12/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan


    Israel-Palestine-Jordan
    Talansky 'emphatically denies' claims that he bribed Olmert
    Morris Talansky, the central figure in the new investigation against Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, "emphatically denies" that he bribed Olmert.
    "That was a bribe? More like a tip! Who knew he came so cheap?"
    In an interview to Channel 10 news on Sunday, the 75-year-old businessman from Woodmere, New York, said he "never thought in any way that the money that I gave him - it was for the purpose of his becoming mayor or electioneering - was in any way illegal or wrong. He was not the only one who came to America to ask for money for the election campaign, and so I thought it was legal."

    Confronted with allegations that he had bribed the prime minister, the Long Island financier said: "I emphatically deny that I had in my mind any business in Israel. It never crossed my mind to do business here. I don't own any land, I don't own any buildings, I don't own any factories, I never built anything here... never, never was that my purpose. I have one apartment [in Jerusalem], that's all I had." "Check all of the records," he said. "I don't have now and I never had. Nothing, nothing, I don't have [anything] here."
    Posted by: Fred || 05/12/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

    #1  I think Omelette needs to be held to the same standards as anyone else who has been investigated for any kind of corruption in Israel - political or civic.
    Posted by: gorb || 05/12/2008 1:29 Comments || Top||


    Home Front: Culture Wars
    SCSU student leaves training at Technical High School
    Read on to discover why, because it's buried about 1/2 way down ...
    A St. Cloud State University student in a teacher-training program at Technical High School left the school in late April because he says he feared for the safety of his service dog. The school district calls it a misunderstanding, and officials there say they hoped Tyler Hurd, a 23-year-old junior from Mahtomedi who aspires to teach special education, would continue his training in the district. Hurd said a student threatened to kill his service dog named Emmitt. The black lab is trained to protect Hurd when he has seizures. The seizures, which can occur weekly, are from a childhood injury. The dog has a pouch on his side that assists those who stop to help Hurd.

    Hurd said he was unable to finish his 50 hours of field training at Tech. The university waived the remaining 10 hours, he said. He plans to do his student teaching outside a high school setting.“We came up with a solution because I felt threatened by it," Hurd said. The school district and university are working to make sure a similar situation doesn't happen.

    Kate Steffens, dean of the college of education at St. Cloud State, and Tech assistant principal Lori Lockhart met Thursday.
    And the "misunderstanding"?
    The threat came from a Somali student who is Muslim, according to Hurd, St. Cloud State and school district officials. The Muslim faith, which is the dominant faith of Somali immigrants, forbids the touching of dogs.

    Hurd trained at Talahi Community School and Tech. He said his experience at Talahi was good. The Somali students there warmed to the dog and eventually petted him using paper to keep their hands off his fur, Hurd said. Things didn't go as well at Tech, Hurd said. Students there taunted his dog, and he finally felt he had to leave after he was told a student made a threat. Hurd met with Lockhart but said he did not feel comfortable continuing.

    Julia Espe, director of curriculum, instruction and assessment for St. Cloud school district, said the school needed to do a better job communicating. “I think it was a misunderstanding where we didn't really prepare either side for possible implications," Espe said. Espe said the school's investigation determined the student did not make a direct threat. “We certainly welcome (Hurd) in our district, and we hope we can get this all resolved so he feels welcome and his dog is welcome," Espe said.
    Yes. Let's just forget the whole thing...
    Steffens said it is important to respect different cultures and the rights of disabled students. “I think this is part of the growth process when we become more diverse," Steffens said. Steffens called Hurd a good student and committed young man.
    But in the interest of "diversity", I'll guess he'll have to leave. Can't have our Somali students having to put up with FILTHY INFIDEL BEASTS!
    Gary Loch, who is the diversity coordinator for the district, said the situation was an unfortunate case of miscommunication. “I'm not quite sure where the breakdown comes into play here," Loch said.
    Maybe about the time where the Somali Muslim threatened to kill the dog?
    Posted by: tu3031 || 05/12/2008 14:05 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

    #1  That diversity coordinator is dealing with his cognative dissonance by denial.

    This whole multi-culti BS falls apart when you consider the question "How do you tolerate the intolerant".

    This is not new. 30 years ago the big push at DEC was "Valuing Differences". Anyone with half a brain immediately asked "But what if the difference has no value?" After that they moved on to New Age Thinking.....

    Now we have Muzzie fanatics dictating how WE should live. Tell this scumb to get his ass back to Somalia if he likes those rules so much.
    Posted by: AlanC || 05/12/2008 14:39 Comments || Top||

    #2  I would think making a threat like that, direct or not, would be grounds for immediate dismissal. I sure as hell know it would be for me if I told some damned turban I was going to kill his goat.
    Posted by: bigjim-ky || 05/12/2008 14:49 Comments || Top||

    #3  At some point, the majority is going to have to tell the supercilious pansies that populate the PC police that it really doesn't care about diversity and that what they say is beyond strange, it is just wrong. The whole concept of "diversity" has been perverted into an attack on the culture that has provided the wealth and security that lets these parasites exist. Without America, and yes, without white, male, Christian America, these twits would be lined up against a wall and shot by their new "diverse" masters.
    Posted by: RWV || 05/12/2008 16:26 Comments || Top||


    President calls Jenna's wedding 'spectacular'
    Story at link, with a few reporter's snark comments. However, I believe THIS photo pretty much sums up W. He thought nothing of helping out a Marine that looks horribly embarassed by what happened.
    Posted by: DarthVader || 05/12/2008 12:47 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:



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