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Face it, Democrats: Barack Obama's got a growing problem with whites

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Posted by Fred 2008-05-12 00:00|| || Front Page|| [2 views ] Top

#1 Axelrod, BO's minder, has already stated that the white working-class vote has gone Rep since before Clinton. He's written them off. I wonder how many whites from all economic segments will get that clear message--of being written off--before November. I suspect it's going to be a large number. BO's going to get 98% of the largest black vote ever. My prediction is that he'll get a great turnout from them and from white academics/libs--and that's it. The remainder of the population will go for Johnny Mac and BO will get a 40+ state butt-kicking. Maybe there will be a black president someday, but I don't think BO is it. If there is to be a black president, he'll have to be a Republican.

Posted by Thaimble Scourge of the Pixies4707 2008-05-12 03:46|| 2008-05-12 03:46|| Front Page Top

#2 sounds like the african american and egg-head argument. I would maintain that BO will become the nominee simply because Hillary Clinton is a mad psycho-bitch whom sane people simply can't vote for. If Obama loses the general election it will not be because he couldn't pull working class whites due to the fact that they are white, but because they can see that Obama previously hung with dangerous anti-american bedfellows and they find that unbecoming of a presidential candidate.

Posted by Sninert Black9312 2008-05-12 03:57|| 2008-05-12 03:57|| Front Page Top

#3 He lost it at "bitter and clingy". Analyze all you want, but that's where he went wrong. Nothing - not Rev. Wright, not Michelle Obama, not even his silly and unworkable policies, damaged him as much as those few sentences in San Francisco.

Posted by no mo uro 2008-05-12 05:37|| 2008-05-12 05:37|| Front Page Top

#4 So as long as McCain mentions Wright and Ayers together, it'll be O.K. with us progressives.

Soon, you'll abbreviate "Wright and Ayers" as "Waa". With a silent "h"

Posted by Progressive Bobby 2008-05-12 06:19|| 2008-05-12 06:19|| Front Page Top

#5 Or, according to Tim Blair, here If Clinton and Obama were both male and white, they'd be judged unremarkable, inexperienced and blunder-prone. Identity politics - a leftist speciality by which a candidate is elevated via racial or gender characteristics - have launched this pair to a level they'd otherwise not have reached.

Which I think pretty well sums it up.

Posted by Bobby 2008-05-12 06:27|| 2008-05-12 06:27|| Front Page Top

#6 The question isn't whether people are willing to vote for the Generic Black Guy (or the Generic Woman, Generic Mormon, Generic Catholic, Generic [insert identity here])--"Generic" is never on the ballot. The question is, do people want to vote for this particular candidate.

I'd be happy to vote for J.C. Watts, or Michael Steele, or Ken Blackwell . . . Barak Obama, not so much.

Posted by Mike 2008-05-12 06:45|| 2008-05-12 06:45|| Front Page Top

#7 Obama did well in the beginning because he was a fresh face who offered an alternative to the jerks we have in office now. That he didn't look like them was an advantage. Then we got to find out who he really is. And the bloom was off the dahlia.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-05-12 07:16|| 2008-05-12 07:16|| Front Page Top

#8 Then there is an April poll by The Associated Press that found "about 8% of whites would be uncomfortable voting for a black for President."

Compared to the 89% of black voters who swore an oath never to vote for a honky.

Posted by Black Bart Snaiting7183 2008-05-12 09:53|| 2008-05-12 09:53|| Front Page Top

#9 Obama is a typical, snobbish elitist that I feel is racist on top of it all with no real world experience leading anything except a victim parade to a new socialist paradise.

That is why I will never vote for him.

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2008-05-12 10:59|| 2008-05-12 10:59|| Front Page Top

#10 My dream ticket has always been Fred Thompson and Condoleeza Rice, in either order. Guess that makes me bitter.

Posted by RWV 2008-05-12 11:05|| 2008-05-12 11:05|| Front Page Top

#11 Compared to the 89% of black voters who swore an oath never to vote for a honky.

In 2004 they voted for Kerry (white).

In 2000 they voted for Gore (white).

In 1996 they voted for Clinton (white).

etc.

You get the idea. Let's keep clear heads here; otherwise we're in danger of sounding like the Daily Kos. Black voters will go for Obama just like most Italian voters would have gone for Guiliani, and most Mormons would have gone for Romney. There is ethnic, racial and religious identification in politics, particularly the first time one of your own makes good. That's just the way it is.

I'm not angry at black voters for voting for Obama, though I wish they'd see that many of the man's positions don't help black American in the long term.

Posted by Steve White">Steve White 2008-05-12 11:15|| 2008-05-12 11:15|| Front Page Top

#12 ... Clinton told USA Today this week, making clear that she consistently does better among white, working-class voters.

Can you imagine the explosion we'd see if Johnny Mac told the media that he planned to do better among white, working-class voters? I guess it's different when a Democrat says it.

Posted by Steve White">Steve White 2008-05-12 11:18|| 2008-05-12 11:18|| Front Page Top

#13 well said, Steve.

Posted by Sninert Black9312 2008-05-12 11:23|| 2008-05-12 11:23|| Front Page Top

#14 Steve,

Why is it that when blacks break 95-5 for Obama that's not racist while if whites break 65-35 for Clinton, that IS racist? Serious double standard there.

I can't see voting for Obama under any circumstances, but I suspect if he gets elected his first two years would be trying to run hard left like BJ with a LOT of "jobs for the (black) boys" thrown in. That would probably get him the same response it got BJ--a raging Republican majority again in both House and Senate.

Posted by Thaimble Scourge of the Pixies4707 2008-05-12 11:49|| 2008-05-12 11:49|| Front Page Top

#15 Because only whitey can be Racist.

Posted by CrazyFool 2008-05-12 12:20|| 2008-05-12 12:20|| Front Page Top

#16 His view of foreign relations is that the UN is a good thing and America should be subordinate to them. Strike one !
His view of the domestic social situation is that blacks have been delt a bad hand and require federal dollars to compensate. Strike two !
His domestic economic view is that his wife got a $2000,000 raise the day after he became senator and ha said nothing. His pal Rev. Wright is building a $1,600,000 home from the collection plate, and he says nothing. His economic view is elitist. YEERRRR OUT !

Posted by wxjames 2008-05-12 12:27|| 2008-05-12 12:27|| Front Page Top

#17 Steve: I'm not angry at black voters for voting for Obama

Why not? They are also voting for Truther history, chickens coming home to roost and AIDS as a government plot to kill black people. Voting for Obama because he is black is not only racist, it is mentally and morally retarded. I would say the same thing about Italians voting for Giuliani or Mormons voting for Romney if either man was associated with comparable evil.

Posted by Excalibur 2008-05-12 13:10|| 2008-05-12 13:10|| Front Page Top

#18 The first time One Of Us makes good, he/she gets our votes. That's human nature, not racism. Then most people get it out of their systems, and vote for the candidate with the program most likely to benefit them. The remainder can be perhaps thought of as anti-everyone-else bigots, or pro-people-like-us bigots, or possibly just not very smart. Remember, most black churches are not in the Black Liberation Theology fold, but as God and Good oriented as most of the rest of the churches in the U.S.

Posted by trailing wife ">trailing wife 2008-05-12 13:54|| 2008-05-12 13:54|| Front Page Top

#19 He's not black enough, he's not white enough, he's not conservative enough, he's not liberal enough!

Posted by Crolusing tse Tung2778 2008-05-12 15:02|| 2008-05-12 15:02|| Front Page Top

#20 The truth is that if Obama were white, he would have been dropped after the first 11 primaries; he is just the black John Edwards.

Posted by Shieldwolf 2008-05-12 16:21|| 2008-05-12 16:21|| Front Page Top

#21 If Obama was the son of a sharecropper, I could see the parallel with Romney & the Mormons or Guiliani & the Italians, although I can pretty well guarantee you that Guiliani would never have gotten anything approaching 95% of the Italian vote.

But Obama isn't the son of a sharecropper. He's the son of some radical tourist of a haole and a perfumed afro-socialist bigamist.

You know what? If it wasn't for his skin color, you could call Obama a whigger. A wannabe. Like any one of about a million pathetic hip-hoppy white boys think they'd be cooler if they were black. He's C. Thomas Howell.

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