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Africa North
Tunisia arrests radical over US Embassy attack
TUNIS: A senior member of Tunisian hard-line group Ansar Al-Shariah has been arrested in connection with the attack on the US Embassy in Tunis earlier this month, the Interior Ministry said yesterday.

“Hassen Brik, who is the subject of a police inquiry, was arrested on Sunday in the connection with the investigation,” ministry spokesman Khaled Tarrouche said.

Supporters of the extremist group’s leader Seif Allah Ibn Hussein, who is also wanted by the police, said on their Facebook page that the preacher “Hassen Brik was arrested in the El-Khadra district of Tunis on the pretext of checking his identity.”

His arrest adds to the 96 protesters held following the attack on the American Embassy in Tunis on Sept. 14, which left four people dead and dozens wounded. Since then, the police have been searching for hard-liner leaders, including Ibn Hussein who is also known as Abu Iyadh and who has managed to escape arrest several times since the deadly violence in which he has been implicated.
Posted by: Steve White || 09/26/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:


Egyptian sheikh to face charges of denigrating Christianity
[Al Ahram] Egyptian prosecutors have referred prominent Islamist Sheikh Abu Islam Ahmed Abdullah, owner of the Umma and Mariya television channels, to criminal court to face charges of defaming the Christian faith. The referral comes after two lawyers filed legal complaints accusing Abdullah of showing contempt for Christianity by burning copies of the New Testament in front of the US embassy in Cairo during protests in mid-September against a US-made film mocking Islam's Prophet Mohamed.

"This is the first time that a complaint filed for denigrating Christianity has been investigated," Naguib Gebrail, Coptic lawyer and head of the Egyptian Union of Human Rights, told Ahram Online. "I personally have filed three complaints in the past against Abu Islam Abdullah and they were never looked into."

He added: "We strongly condemn the double standards regarding lawsuits related to contempt for religion."

Gebrail went on to note that four Coptic-Christians charged with defaming Islam remained in police custody in different governorates of Egypt pending investigation.

"All four were brought to court immediately following their arrests, while Abdullah was not immediately jugged
Yez got nuttin' on me, coppers! Nuttin'!
," Gebrail claimed.

Hani Gadallah, editor of Egypt's Tahrir newspaper, also faces charges for publishing an interview with Abdullah in which the latter disparages the Christian religion.
Posted by: Fred || 09/26/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under: Arab Spring

#1  Interesting, but I almost let my hopes get raised.

Short trial, not guilty, end of story. They Gypos prove how fair and blanaced they are!
Posted by: Bobby || 09/26/2012 13:31 Comments || Top||

#2  So they gonna rebuild the churches they destroyed and allow the Copts to build houses of worship as needed?

Allan forbid!
Posted by: Shinter Javirong9154 || 09/26/2012 15:40 Comments || Top||

#3  I guess this is progress. Causing these dim bulbs to live up to their own standards is a start. But I don't think much will come of it.
Posted by: rammer || 09/26/2012 19:33 Comments || Top||


Bangladesh
Most Razakar, Al-Badr men were from Jamaat
[Bangla Daily Star] Most members of the Shanti Committee, the Razakars, Al-Badr and Al-Shams were from the Jamaat-e-Islami
...The Islamic Society, founded in 1941 in Lahore by Maulana Sayyid Abul Ala Maududi, aka The Great Apostosizer. The Jamaat opposed the independence of Bangladesh but has operated an independent branch there since 1975. It maintains close ties with international Mohammedan groups such as the Moslem Brotherhood. the Taliban, and al-Qaeda. The Jamaat's objectives are the establishment of a pure Islamic state, governed by Sharia law. It is distinguished by its xenophobia, and its opposition to Westernization, capitalism, socialism, secularism, and liberalist social mores...
, said eminent historian Prof Muntassir Mamoon at International Crimes Tribunal-1 yesterday.

Prosecution witness Muntassir said this during cross-examination in the war crimes case against former Jamaat chief Ghulam Azam, when a defence counsel suggested that the Razakar and Al-Badr were not separate forces.

"It's new information because, according to my knowledge, though Razakar, Shanti Committee, Al-Badr and Al-Shams were counted separately, the lion's share of the members of these forces were Jamaat men," said Muntassir.

Defence counsel Mizanul Islam suggested that Muntassir had no idea about the total number of members of the Shanti Committee, Razakar, Al-Badr and Al-Shams men and therefore his statement regarding the presence of Jamaat members in those forces was untrue.

"It's not true," Muntassir said, adding, "Jamaat leaders never disclose the number of their party members."

Mizanul objected and pleaded before the tribunal to append its objection to the parenthesis.

The prosecution objected to that.

However,
a hangover is the wrath of grapes...
Muntassir then said had the party published the names of its members, it would be clear as to how many members of the Jamaat worked for the forces. And that his claim was right since the Jamaat never revealed its members' count.

The tribunal did not record the witness's explanation but noted the defence objection.

Mizanul then asked the witness whether he could mention the political identity of the members of these auxiliary forces of the Mighty Pak Army.

Muntassir said he had never specified anyone other than the people whose names had been published in newspapers and where they had been labelled as such.

Mizanul then made a suggestion that the statement Muntassir gave against Ghulam Azam was made up and untrue.

"With your political point of view, you have taken a position against the Jamaat and are carrying out a false campaign against the party's leaders," suggested the defence counsel.

The witness denied it and said, "You [Mizanul] have to tell me which political ideal I nurture."

Mizanul refused to answer.

The tribunal recorded Muntassir's reply as "it is not possible for me to reply to the suggestion made without detecting my political belief. However,
a hangover is the wrath of grapes...
the defence suggestion is not true".

Mizanul then suggested that accused Ghulam Azam's role during the Liberation War of 1971 was only political.

"If mass killing, looting and rape, etc., are part of political principle, then your statement is right," Muntassir replied.
Ouch.
"Ghulam Azam was not involved in killing, looting during the Liberation War; you have given untrue statement against him," said the defence counsel.

It was not true, Muntassir said.

In reply to a question, Muntassir said he interviewed Gen Rao Farman Ali, Gen Niazi and other policymakers of Pakistain and asked questions about the killings of intellectuals.

In response to another question, the witness said Gen Niazi might have mentioned in his book that the Razakars were controlled and directed by the Mighty Pak Army. Nonetheless, political parties and their leaders assisted them during the Liberation War.

Pointing to a section of the interview, Mizanul then told the historian that Gen Niazi had said they did not trust political parties and their leaders and in the case of policymaking, the army alone made the decisions.

"Niazi is a well-known joker. What he had said was not valued even in Pakistain. Whatever be his speech, it was later analysed with other information ...," replied Muntassir.

Muntassir testified in the case as the first prosecution witness on July 1.

As the defence had failed to complete cross-examination even after 14 hours, the tribunal on July 5 allowed the defence a session to finish off but said the date would be according to the wish of the witness.

On Monday, the prosecution informed the tribunal that Muntassir would appear before the tribunal yesterday. The defence cross-examined him for two and a half hours yesterday.

Ghulam Azam, facing five charges based on 60 acts of crimes against humanity during the Liberation War, was brought to the tribunal but was not produced before the court.

The proceedings of the case were adjourned until today.
Posted by: Fred || 09/26/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under: Jamaat-e-Islami


Britain
Abu Hamza launches last ditch bid to delay extradition
The hate cleric has applied for an injunction against his removal just two days after losing his final appeal at the European Court of Human Rights.

A second terror suspect, Khaled al-Fawaz, has also applied for an injunction against his extradition, the Judicial Communications Office confirmed.

It is not known on what grounds the pair have launched their challenge although Whitehall sources have previously suggested Hamza may try and argue he is not fit to travel to America.
He has a hook for a hand, you know...
A judge is expected to consider whether the pair have a case to proceed with as a matter of urgency but no date has been set.

Hamza, al-Fawaz and three other terror suspects, are expected to be extradited to the United States, where they face terror charges, within days after the European Court of Human Rights rejected their final appeal bid on Monday.
Posted by: tipper || 09/26/2012 09:14 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under: al-Qaeda in Arabia

#1  And succeeds
Abu Hamza granted temporary reprieve against extradition
Posted by: tipper || 09/26/2012 15:14 Comments || Top||

#2  Somebody get The Queen her Weatherby.
Posted by: Shinter Javirong9154 || 09/26/2012 15:42 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
N.Korea Supposedly Halts Work on Launch Pad
A U.S.-based research institute says new satellite imagery suggests North Korea has halted construction on a launch pad capable of testing intercontinental missiles.

The website 38 North says the delay, possibly due to recent heavy rains, could push back the project's completion by up to two years. The new launch pad, located at the Tonghae Satellite Launching Ground, had been scheduled for completion around 2015. But the group says the photos, taken August 29, also suggest Pyongyang is working on an existing launch pad at the same facility that has been used for previous missile tests.

Although the report says no launch appears to be imminent, it says North Korea can still launch longer-range rockets at its Sohae facility, from where it conducted its failed missile launch in April.

Pyongyang has tested two nuclear weapons and says it has turned some of its stockpile of plutonium into bomb material. There are concerns that it aims to create a nuclear bomb that can be carried on a missile, though experts say they have not mastered the necessary technology.

38 North, the website of the U.S.-Korea Institute of the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies, says the new launch pad at Tonghae is intended to conduct tests on "larger liquid-fueled rockets, possibly with intercontinental ranges."

It said the commercial satellite photos of the facility, taken by DigitalGlobe, also show Pyongyang has stopped construction on fuel and oxidizer buildings designed to support future tests near the new pad.

The report said the exact cause of the delay is not clear, but that heavy rains may have damaged the dirt trail leading to the secluded construction site. It also said heavy construction equipment at the site may have been relocated to help repair flood-damaged areas.
Posted by: Steve White || 09/26/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:


Home Front: WoT
Muslim woman defaces 'anti-jihad' ad in Times Square station
Posted by: tipper || 09/26/2012 02:26 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I'm sure if people responded by spray painting messages on /gifts of pork products to mosques she'd still be clueless.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 09/26/2012 7:03 Comments || Top||

#2  We have the right to post statments and they have the right to deface and destroy property because they don't care for it - now THAT's freedom of expression!

So if you offend me, Lady, to I have the right to take you out? Or just spray-paint you?
Posted by: Bobby || 09/26/2012 8:38 Comments || Top||

#3  No doubt she will get a show on msnbc and she probably has a book coming out soon.
Posted by: Rjschwarz || 09/26/2012 11:06 Comments || Top||

#4  Spray can jihadist who believes in Sharia Law over our Constitution's 1st Amendment.
Posted by: JohnQC || 09/26/2012 13:54 Comments || Top||

#5  Appears that Mona is a former Reuters hack who has recently been seen spewing on CNN and MSNBC. Figures.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 09/26/2012 19:12 Comments || Top||

#6  More about Ms Etahawy at Newsbusters, who is a popular television talk show and interview pundit, and writes for magazines like Foreign Policy.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/26/2012 20:30 Comments || Top||


In Arab Spring, Obama Finds a Sharp Test
Posted by: tipper || 09/26/2012 00:50 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  update
How megalomania explains Obama’s response to the Arab Spring
Posted by: tipper || 09/26/2012 1:59 Comments || Top||

#2  Obama Finds a Sharp Test in finding a way from WH lawn into WH.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/26/2012 7:24 Comments || Top||

#3  Time we sent the "Replacement Ref" president home.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/26/2012 8:27 Comments || Top||

#4  Fail isn't spelled F I N D S
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 09/26/2012 8:33 Comments || Top||

#5  Just scanning the NYT piece, the meglomania shines through.
Posted by: Bobby || 09/26/2012 8:45 Comments || Top||

#6  A "Sharp Test" (whatever that is) perhaps, for a man who wakes up each morning thing about himself.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/26/2012 8:50 Comments || Top||

#7  Mr. Obama felt keenly, one aide said, the need for the United States, and for he himself, to stand as a moral example.

Yeah maybe in some screwed up parallel universe.
Posted by: JohnQC || 09/26/2012 14:12 Comments || Top||

#8  Compare wid DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > AL-QAEDA, NOT INDIA, PREPARING TO DESTROY PAKISTAN.

ARTIC = the various "ARAB SPRING(S)" HAVE ALLOWED AL-QAEDA = RADICAL ISLAM TO "PROMOTE ITS FLAG" + AGENDUM, + ESTABLISH ITSELF IN NATION-STATES WHERE IT WASN'T BEFORE.

versus

* BHARAT RAKSHHAK > REPORT: US-NATO TROOPS ADOPT "[Safe] BUNKER METALITY" IN ANTICIPATION OF 2014 | TALIBAN: DECLINE IN MILITANT ATTACKS DUE TO NATO TROOP WITHDRAWALS AND UNWILLINGNESS TO FIGHT.

1970'S Nixonian "Vietnamization/De-Americanization" of Indo-China war in SE Asia = 2012/2014 "Afghanization" under POTUS Bammer in the GWOT.

BR BLOGGER-POSTER = opined that IHO the pro-Militant Pak Army + Taliban, AQ, etc. have WON THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN - PAKISTAN PER SE NOW UNDERGOING A PROCESS OF TALIBAN-LED
"PURIFICATION" IN PREPARAT FOR FUTURE PAK SHARIA STATE.

NUKULAR ISLAMIC/SHARIA ANTI-US, WESTERN STATE, that is???

* SAME > WHY THE BENGHAZI CONSULATE ATTACK WILL BLIND THE US?

Newfound, post-attack, possible "zero tolerance" on the part of the US Govt = WH + DepState to NOT put any and all US Diplomats under ANY KIND OF SECURITY RISK, BENIGN OR OTHER. POSSIBLE US HYPER-SECURITY IN WAKE OF BENGAHZI + RELATED EMBASSY/CONSULATE ATTACKS MAY END UP ONLY "BLINDING" US INTEL AS TO THE TRUE NATURE OF LOCAL OR REGIONAL SITUATIONS.

IOW, INTEL FAILURES = DIPLOMATIC, HENCE ALSO FOREIGN POLICY, FAILURES.

ARTIC > E.G. POST-MUBARAK MURSI-LED EGYPT . SOURCE > Author alleges that MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD IS PURGING THE EGYPTIAN MILITARY OF PRO-AMERICAN OFFICERS. SOURCE CLAIMS THAT UP TO 4000 PRO-US EGYPTIAN OFFICERS HAVE BEEN TERMINATED OR RELEASED FROM THE EGYPTIAN ARMY???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 09/27/2012 0:16 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Pakistani minister stands by anti-Islam film-maker bounty
[Dawn] Pak government minister Ghulam Ahmed Bilour, who offered $100,000 for the death of a film-maker who produced an anti-Islam movie, stood by the bounty on Tuesday, saying it was the "only way" to stop insults to the Holy Prophet ((PTUI!)).

Railways minister Bilour sparked international criticism when he offered the blood money, also urging Taliban and al Qaeda bully boyz to carry out what he called the "noble deed".

The government and Bilour's own party, The Awam National Party, have distanced themselves from the reward for the person behind the crudely-made "Innocence of Moslems" disrespecting the Holy Prophet ((PTUI!)) and sparking violent protests across the Moslem world.

Bilour said a businessman from Lahore has offered to put up a further $400,000 for the reward and said that freedom of speech should not be used as an excuse to insult Islam.
But Bilour insisted public opinion was behind him in Pakistain -- which has seen dozens of protests against the film including nationwide rallies on Friday that ended in bloodshed and looting, with 23 people reported killed.

"I expressed my personal view and faith. I stand by my declaration," said Bilour. "My faith is non-violent, but I cannot forgive and tolerate (this insult)."

He said a businessman from Lahore had offered to put up a further $400,000 for the reward and said that freedom of speech should not be used as an excuse to insult Islam.

"Killing is not a good way, but right now it is the only way, because no action has been taken from Western countries (against the film-maker)," he said.

The producer of the film, Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, is reported to be a 55-year-old Egyptian Copt and convicted fraudster, based in Los Angeles and currently out on parole.

US reports say Nakoula wrote and produced the film, using the pseudonym Sam Bacile before being identified. Police questioned him before he went into hiding with his family.
Posted by: Fred || 09/26/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan

#1  "Just had to check the safe deposit box; we're good..."
Posted by: Raj || 09/26/2012 0:45 Comments || Top||

#2  It is too bad we don't have a POTUS that will stand up for 1st amendment rights. I would like to see him say that people that put bounties on the heads of US citizens, especially inside this country, have just put themselves on our target list, and will be hunted and put down like mad dogs. They are put on notice.

Hey, I can dream, can't I?
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 09/26/2012 1:16 Comments || Top||

#3  The guy sounds like a drone zap candidate to me.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 09/26/2012 17:58 Comments || Top||


International-UN-NGOs
Barak Obama's speech to the United Nations General Assembly
Mr. President, Mr. Secretary General, fellow delegates, ladies and gentleman: I would like to begin today by telling you about an American named Chris Stevens. Chris was born in a town called Grass Valley, California, the son of a lawyer and a musician. As a young man, Chris joined the Peace Corps, and taught English in Morocco. And he came to love and respect the people of North Africa and the Middle East. He would carry that commitment throughout his life. As a diplomat, he worked from Egypt to Syria, from Saudi Arabia to Libya.

He was known for walking the streets of the cities where he worked -- tasting the local food, meeting as many people as he could, speaking Arabic, listening with a broad smile. Chris went to Benghazi in the early days of the Libyan revolution, arriving on a cargo ship. As America's representative, he helped the Libyan people as they coped with violent conflict, cared for the wounded, and crafted a vision for the future in which the rights of all Libyans would be respected. And after the revolution, he supported the birth of a new democracy, as Libyans held elections, and built new institutions, and began to move forward after decades of dictatorship. Chris Stevens loved his work. He took pride in the country he served, and he saw dignity in the people that he met.

And two weeks ago, he traveled to Benghazi to review plans to establish a new cultural center and modernize a hospital. That's when America's compound came under attack. Along with three of his colleagues, Chris was killed in the city that he helped to save. He was 52 years old. I tell you this story because Chris Stevens embodied the best of America. Like his fellow Foreign Service officers, he built bridges across oceans and cultures, and was deeply invested in the international cooperation that the United Nations represents. He acted with humility, but he also stood up for a set of principles -- a belief that individuals should be free to determine their own destiny, and live with liberty, dignity, justice, and opportunity.

The attacks on the civilians in Benghazi were attacks on America. We are grateful for the assistance we received from the Libyan government and from the Libyan people. There should be no doubt that we will be relentless in tracking down the killers and bringing them to justice. And I also appreciate that in recent days, the leaders of other countries in the region -- including Egypt, Tunisia and Yemen -- have taken steps to secure our diplomatic facilities, and called for calm. And so have religious authorities around the globe. But understand, the attacks of the last two weeks are not simply an assault on America.

They are also an assault on the very ideals upon which the United Nations was founded -- the notion that people can resolve their differences peacefully; that diplomacy can take the place of war; that in an interdependent world, all of us have a stake in working towards greater opportunity and security for our citizens. If we are serious about upholding these ideals, it will not be enough to put more guards in front of an embassy, or to put out statements of regret and wait for the outrage to pass. If we are serious about these ideals, we must speak honestly about the deeper causes of the crisis -- because we face a choice between the forces that would drive us apart and the hopes that we hold in common.

Today, we must reaffirm that our future will be determined by people like Chris Stevens -- and not by his killers. Today, we must declare that this violence and intolerance has no place among our United Nations. It has been less than two years since a vendor in Tunisia set himself on fire to protest the oppressive corruption in his country, and sparked what became known as the Arab Spring. And since then, the world has been captivated by the transformation that's taken place, and the United States has supported the forces of change. We were inspired by the Tunisian protests that toppled a dictator, because we recognized our own beliefs in the aspiration of men and women who took to the streets.

We insisted on change in Egypt, because our support for democracy ultimately put us on the side of the people. We supported a transition of leadership in Yemen, because the interests of the people were no longer being served by a corrupt status quo. We intervened in Libya alongside a broad coalition, and with the mandate of the United Nations Security Council, because we had the ability to stop the slaughter of innocents, and because we believed that the aspirations of the people were more powerful than a tyrant. And as we meet here, we again declare that the regime of Bashar al-Assad must come to an end so that the suffering of the Syrian people can stop and a new dawn can begin. We have taken these positions because we believe that freedom and self-determination are not unique to one culture. These are not simply American values or Western values -- they are universal values. And even as there will be huge challenges to come with a transition to democracy, I am convinced that ultimately government of the people, by the people, and for the people is more likely to bring about the stability, prosperity, and individual opportunity that serve as a basis for peace in our world. So let us remember that this is a season of progress.

For the first time in decades, Tunisians, Egyptians and Libyans voted for new leaders in elections that were credible, competitive, and fair. This democratic spirit has not been restricted to the Arab world. Over the past year, we've seen peaceful transitions of power in Malawi and Senegal, and a new President in Somalia. In Burma, a President has freed political prisoners and opened a closed society, a courageous dissident has been elected to parliament, and people look forward to further reform. Around the globe, people are making their voices heard, insisting on their innate dignity, and the right to determine their future.

And yet the turmoil of recent weeks reminds us that the path to democracy does not end with the casting of a ballot. Nelson Mandela once said: "To be free is not merely to cast off one's chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others." True democracy demands that citizens cannot be thrown in jail because of what they believe, and that businesses can be opened without paying a bribe. It depends on the freedom of citizens to speak their minds and assemble without fear, and on the rule of law and due process that guarantees the rights of all people. In other words, true democracy -- real freedom -- is hard work.

Those in power have to resist the temptation to crack down on dissidents. In hard economic times, countries must be tempted -- may be tempted to rally the people around perceived enemies, at home and abroad, rather than focusing on the painstaking work of reform. Moreover, there will always be those that reject human progress -- dictators who cling to power, corrupt interests that depend on the status quo, and extremists who fan the flames of hate and division. From Northern Ireland to South Asia, from Africa to the Americas, from the Balkans to the Pacific Rim, we've witnessed convulsions that can accompany transitions to a new political order. At time, the conflicts arise along the fault lines of race or tribe. And often they arise from the difficulties of reconciling tradition and faith with the diversity and interdependence of the modern world. In every country, there are those who find different religious beliefs threatening; in every culture, those who love freedom for themselves must ask themselves how much they're willing to tolerate freedom for others.

That is what we saw play out in the last two weeks, as a crude and disgusting video sparked outrage throughout the Muslim world. Now, I have made it clear that the United States government had nothing to do with this video, and I believe its message must be rejected by all who respect our common humanity. It is an insult not only to Muslims, but to America as well -- for as the city outside these walls makes clear, we are a country that has welcomed people of every race and every faith. We are home to Muslims who worship across our country. We not only respect the freedom of religion, we have laws that protect individuals from being harmed because of how they look or what they believe.

We understand why people take offense to this video because millions of our citizens are among them. I know there are some who ask why we don't just ban such a video. And the answer is enshrined in our laws: Our Constitution protects the right to practice free speech. Here in the United States, countless publications provoke offense. Like me, the majority of Americans are Christian, and yet we do not ban blasphemy against our most sacred beliefs. As President of our country and Commander-in-Chief of our military, I accept that people are going to call me awful things every day -- (laughter) -- and I will always defend their right to do so. Americans have fought and died around the globe to protect the right of all people to express their views, even views that we profoundly disagree with. We do not do so because we support hateful speech, but because our founders understood that without such protections, the capacity of each individual to express their own views and practice their own faith may be threatened. We do so because in a diverse society, efforts to restrict speech can quickly become a tool to silence critics and oppress minorities. We do so because given the power of faith in our lives, and the passion that religious differences can inflame, the strongest weapon against hateful speech is not repression; it is more speech -- the voices of tolerance that rally against bigotry and blasphemy, and lift up the values of understanding and mutual respect. Now, I know that not all countries in this body share this particular understanding of the protection of free speech. We recognize that.

But in 2012, at a time when anyone with a cell phone can spread offensive views around the world with the click of a button, the notion that we can control the flow of information is obsolete. The question, then, is how do we respond? And on this we must agree: There is no speech that justifies mindless violence. There are no words that excuse the killing of innocents. There's no video that justifies an attack on an embassy. There's no slander that provides an excuse for people to burn a restaurant in Lebanon, or destroy a school in Tunis, or cause death and destruction in Pakistan. In this modern world with modern technologies, for us to respond in that way to hateful speech empowers any individual who engages in such speech to create chaos around the world. We empower the worst of us if that's how we respond. More broadly, the events of the last two weeks also speak to the need for all of us to honestly address the tensions between the West and the Arab world that is moving towards democracy. Now, let me be clear: Just as we cannot solve every problem in the world, the United States has not and will not seek to dictate the outcome of democratic transitions abroad. We do not expect other nations to agree with us on every issue, nor do we assume that the violence of the past weeks or the hateful speech by some individuals represent the views of the overwhelming majority of Muslims, any more than the views of the people who produced this video represents those of Americans. However, I do believe that it is the obligation of all leaders in all countries to speak out forcefully against violence and extremism. It is time to marginalize those who -- even when not directly resorting to violence -- use hatred of America, or the West, or Israel, as the central organizing principle of politics. For that only gives cover, and sometimes makes an excuse, for those who do resort to violence. T

hat brand of politics -- one that pits East against West, and South against North, Muslims against Christians and Hindu and Jews -- can't deliver on the promise of freedom. To the youth, it offers only false hope. Burning an American flag does nothing to provide a child an education. Smashing apart a restaurant does not fill an empty stomach. Attacking an embassy won't create a single job. That brand of politics only makes it harder to achieve what we must do together: educating our children, and creating the opportunities that they deserve; protecting human rights, and extending democracy's promise. Understand America will never retreat from the world. We will bring justice to those who harm our citizens and our friends, and we will stand with our allies. We are willing to partner with countries around the world to deepen ties of trade and investment, and science and technology, energy and development -- all efforts that can spark economic growth for all our people and stabilize democratic change. But such efforts depend on a spirit of mutual interest and mutual respect. No government or company, no school or NGO will be confident working in a country where its people are endangered. For partnerships to be effective our citizens must be secure and our efforts must be welcomed. A politics based only on anger -- one based on dividing the world between "us" and "them" -- not only sets back international cooperation, it ultimately undermines those who tolerate it. All of us have an interest in standing up to these forces.

Let us remember that Muslims have suffered the most at the hands of extremism. On the same day our civilians were killed in Benghazi, a Turkish police officer was murdered in Istanbul only days before his wedding; more than 10 Yemenis were killed in a car bomb in Sana'a; several Afghan children were mourned by their parents just days after they were killed by a suicide bomber in Kabul. The impulse towards intolerance and violence may initially be focused on the West, but over time it cannot be contained.

The same impulses toward extremism are used to justify war between Sunni and Shia, between tribes and clans. It leads not to strength and prosperity but to chaos. In less than two years, we have seen largely peaceful protests bring more change to Muslim-majority countries than a decade of violence. And extremists understand this. Because they have nothing to offer to improve the lives of people, violence is their only way to stay relevant. They don't build; they only destroy. It is time to leave the call of violence and the politics of division behind. On so many issues, we face a choice between the promise of the future, or the prisons of the past. And we cannot afford to get it wrong. We must seize this moment. And America stands ready to work with all who are willing to embrace a better future. The future must not belong to those who target Coptic Christians in Egypt -- it must be claimed by those in Tahrir Square who chanted, "Muslims, Christians, we are one."

The future must not belong to those who bully women -- it must be shaped by girls who go to school, and those who stand for a world where our daughters can live their dreams just like our sons. The future must not belong to those corrupt few who steal a country's resources -- it must be won by the students and entrepreneurs, the workers and business owners who seek a broader prosperity for all people. Those are the women and men that America stands with; theirs is the vision we will support. The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam. But to be credible, those who condemn that slander must also condemn the hate we see in the images of Jesus Christ that are desecrated, or churches that are destroyed, or the Holocaust that is denied. Let us condemn incitement against Sufi Muslims and Shiite pilgrims. It's time to heed the words of Gandhi: "Intolerance is itself a form of violence and an obstacle to the growth of a true democratic spirit."

Together, we must work towards a world where we are strengthened by our differences, and not defined by them. That is what America embodies, that's the vision we will support. Among Israelis and Palestinians, the future must not belong to those who turn their backs on a prospect of peace. Let us leave behind those who thrive on conflict, those who reject the right of Israel to exist.

The road is hard, but the destination is clear -- a secure, Jewish state of Israel and an independent, prosperous Palestine. Understanding that such a peace must come through a just agreement between the parties, America will walk alongside all who are prepared to make that journey. In Syria, the future must not belong to a dictator who massacres his people. If there is a cause that cries out for protest in the world today, peaceful protest, it is a regime that tortures children and shoots rockets at apartment buildings. And we must remain engaged to assure that what began with citizens demanding their rights does not end in a cycle of sectarian violence.

Together, we must stand with those Syrians who believe in a different vision -- a Syria that is united and inclusive, where children don't need to fear their own government, and all Syrians have a say in how they are governed -- Sunnis and Alawites, Kurds and Christians. That's what America stands for. That is the outcome that we will work for -- with sanctions and consequences for those who persecute, and assistance and support for those who work for this common good. Because we believe that the Syrians who embrace this vision will have the strength and the legitimacy to lead. In Iran, we see where the path of a violent and unaccountable ideology leads.

The Iranian people have a remarkable and ancient history, and many Iranians wish to enjoy peace and prosperity alongside their neighbors. But just as it restricts the rights of its own people, the Iranian government continues to prop up a dictator in Damascus and supports terrorist groups abroad. Time and again, it has failed to take the opportunity to demonstrate that its nuclear program is peaceful, and to meet its obligations to the United Nations.

So let me be clear. America wants to resolve this issue through diplomacy, and we believe that there is still time and space to do so. But that time is not unlimited. We respect the right of nations to access peaceful nuclear power, but one of the purposes of the United Nations is to see that we harness that power for peace. And make no mistake, a nuclear-armed Iran is not a challenge that can be contained. It would threaten the elimination of Israel, the security of Gulf nations, and the stability of the global economy. It risks triggering a nuclear-arms race in the region, and the unraveling of the non-proliferation treaty.

That's why a coalition of countries is holding the Iranian government accountable. And that's why the United States will do what we must to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. We know from painful experience that the path to security and prosperity does not lie outside the boundaries of international law and respect for human rights. That's why this institution was established from the rubble of conflict.

That is why liberty triumphed over tyranny in the Cold War. And that is the lesson of the last two decades as well. History shows that peace and progress come to those who make the right choices. Nations in every part of the world have traveled this difficult path. Europe, the bloodiest battlefield of the 20th century, is united, free and at peace. From Brazil to South Africa, from Turkey to South Korea, from India to Indonesia, people of different races, religions, and traditions have lifted millions out of poverty, while respecting the rights of their citizens and meeting their responsibilities as nations. And it is because of the progress that I've witnessed in my own lifetime, the progress that I've witnessed after nearly four years as President, that I remain ever hopeful about the world that we live in.

The war in Iraq is over. American troops have come home. We've begun a transition in Afghanistan, and America and our allies will end our war on schedule in 2014. Al Qaeda has been weakened, and Osama bin Laden is no more. Nations have come together to lock down nuclear materials, and America and Russia are reducing our arsenals.

We have seen hard choices made -- from Naypyidaw to Cairo to Abidjan -- to put more power in the hands of citizens. At a time of economic challenge, the world has come together to broaden prosperity. Through the G20, we have partnered with emerging countries to keep the world on the path of recovery. America has pursued a development agenda that fuels growth and breaks dependency, and worked with African leaders to help them feed their nations.

New partnerships have been forged to combat corruption and promote government that is open and transparent, and new commitments have been made through the Equal Futures Partnership to ensure that women and girls can fully participate in politics and pursue opportunity. And later today, I will discuss our efforts to combat the scourge of human trafficking. All these things give me hope. But what gives me the most hope is not the actions of us, not the actions of leaders -- it is the people that I've seen.

The American troops who have risked their lives and sacrificed their limbs for strangers half a world away; the students in Jakarta or Seoul who are eager to use their knowledge to benefit mankind; the faces in a square in Prague or a parliament in Ghana who see democracy giving voice to their aspirations; the young people in the favelas of Rio and the schools of Mumbai whose eyes shine with promise. These men, women, and children of every race and every faith remind me that for every angry mob that gets shown on television, there are billions around the world who share similar hopes and dreams.

They tell us that there is a common heartbeat to humanity. So much attention in our world turns to what divides us. That's what we see on the news. That's what consumes our political debates. But when you strip it all away, people everywhere long for the freedom to determine their destiny; the dignity that comes with work; the comfort that comes with faith; and the justice that exists when governments serve their people -- and not the other way around.

The United States of America will always stand up for these aspirations, for our own people and for people all across the world. That was our founding purpose. That is what our history shows. That is what Chris Stevens worked for throughout his life. And I promise you this: Long after the killers are brought to justice, Chris Stevens's legacy will live on in the lives that he touched -- in the tens of thousands who marched against violence through the streets of Benghazi; in the Libyans who changed their Facebook photo to one of Chris; in the signs that read, simply, "Chris Stevens was a friend to all Libyans." They should give us hope. They should remind us that so long as we work for it, justice will be done, that history is on our side, and that a rising tide of liberty will never be reversed. Thank you very much.
Posted by: Fred || 09/26/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Nice words. Wish he actually lived by them himself.
Posted by: Ptah || 09/26/2012 9:51 Comments || Top||

#2  Has anyone read that wire from Libya yet on television or radio which destroys the whole thing yet or what ! What the fuck are people waiting for?
Posted by: Angiting Snore1647 || 09/26/2012 16:44 Comments || Top||

#3  If there are no objections, I'm recommending the maximum 5 Rantburg Pinocchio's.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/26/2012 17:20 Comments || Top||

#4  How about just telling them all to fuck off?
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 09/26/2012 18:00 Comments || Top||

#5  Angiting, are you a paid troll, or just a volunteer idiot?
Posted by: Barbara || 09/26/2012 18:36 Comments || Top||


World Muslim group demands laws against "Islamophobia"
[Al Ahram] Pakistain, speaking on behalf of the 56 countries that form the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC), condemned a video made in the United States that defamed Islam and the Prophet Mohammad, igniting Mohammedan protests around the world this month.

"Incidents like this clearly demonstrate the urgent need on the part of states to introduce adequate protection against acts of hate crimes, hate speech, discrimination, intimidation and coercion resulting from defamation and negative stereotyping of religions, and incitement to religious hatred, as well as denigration of venerated personalities," Pakistain's ambassador Zamir Akram said in a speech to the U.N. Human Rights Council.

The B.O. regime has condemned the film entitled "Innocence of Mohammedans" as "disgusting". But Western countries remain determined to resist restrictions on freedom of speech and have already voiced disquiet about the repressive effect of blasphemy laws in Mohammedan countries such as Pakistain.

Akram said the crudely made video, as well as the burning of the Koran and the publication of defamatory cartoons, amount to "deliberate attempts to discriminate, defame, denigrate and vilify Mohammedans and their beliefs".


Such acts constitute "flagrant incitement to violence" and are not protected by freedom of expression, Akram said. Rather, he said, Islamophobia
...the irrational fear that Moslems will act the way they usually do...
must be acknowledged as a contemporary form of racism and be dealt with as such.

"Not to do so would be a clear example of double standards. Islamophobia has to be treated in law and practice equal to the treatment given to anti-Semitism, especially in legislations." It was urgent to "establish an internationally acceptable threshold between freedom of expression and incitement to violence and hatred," Akram added.

On Monday, the United States told the Council that it considered freedom of religion inseparable from free expression, countering calls from many Islamic countries for a treaty outlawing blasphemy.

Religious dignity is best protected where there is free speech, U.S. Ambassador Eileen Chamberlain Donahoe said. "When these freedoms are restricted, we see violence, poverty, stagnation and feelings of frustration and even humiliation."

The OIC signalled last week that it would revive long-standing attempts to make insults against religions an international criminal offence.

A resolution submitted by African countries and backed by the OIC calls on states to introduce into domestic criminal law a provision ensuring that those responsible for crimes with racist or xenophobic motivation are prosecuted.

The text, which deplores "the targeting of religious symbols and venerated persons" is one of the most contentious of the 32 resolutions to be voted on by the 47-member forum this week.

Cyprus, speaking on behalf of the European Union
...the successor to the Holy Roman Empire, only without the Hapsburgs and the nifty uniforms and the dancing...
in Tuesday's debate, said an existing international treaty for combating all forms of racism and intolerance was sufficient, and the main goal should be to implement it effectively. "...In several parts of the world, criminal penalties for hate speech may be used as a means to silence dissidence and suppress freedom of thought, conscience and expression," Cyprus Ambassador Leonidas Pantelides said.
Posted by: Fred || 09/26/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan

#1  You demand? You Demand? You and whose army?
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 09/26/2012 1:18 Comments || Top||

#2  Will there also be Islamic laws against anti-Semitism?
Posted by: Large Darling of the Antelope3345 || 09/26/2012 1:19 Comments || Top||

#3  You and whose army?

The military of the United States?
Posted by: Hupineper Tingle5732 || 09/26/2012 2:45 Comments || Top||

#4  feeling pretty spunky, aren't they?Thank you Preznit Zero and Shrillary. You feckless bastids have bowed and scraped your way to weak horse status
Posted by: Frank G || 09/26/2012 7:15 Comments || Top||

#5  A resolution submitted by African countries and backed by the OIC calls on states to introduce into domestic criminal law a provision ensuring that those responsible for crimes with racist or xenophobic motivation are prosecuted.

Shocking! Absorutely shocking! The tribal Bantus of Africa and Islam openly join hands in declaring co-victimhood. Until universal Sharia becomes a reality, I recommend increased Foreign Aid western apologies and Global Food Stamps.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/26/2012 9:14 Comments || Top||

#6  FOAD
Posted by: newc || 09/26/2012 12:00 Comments || Top||

#7  What AP and newc said!
Posted by: Barbara || 09/26/2012 12:36 Comments || Top||

#8  We could declare a national holiday called "Blasphemy Day."
Posted by: JohnQC || 09/26/2012 14:23 Comments || Top||

#9  My advice would be to try gaining some repect first.
Posted by: Cretinous Humongous || 09/26/2012 18:58 Comments || Top||

#10  Shouldn't that be learning how to spell "respect" first?
Posted by: Charles || 09/26/2012 21:13 Comments || Top||


Iraq
Iranian clout seen growing over Iraq
After years of growing influence, a new sign of Iran’s presence in Iraq has hit the streets. Thousands of signs, that is, depicting Iran’s supreme leader gently smiling to a population once mobilised against the Islamic Republic in eight years of war.

The campaign underscores widespread doubts over just how independent Iraq and its population can remain from its eastern neighbour, now that US troops have left the country.

The posters of Grand Ayatollah Ali Khamenei first appeared in at least six neighbourhoods in Baghdad and across Iraq’s south in August, as part of an annual pro-Palestinian observance started years ago by Iran. They have conspicuously remained up since then.

“When I see these pictures, I feel I am in Teheran, not Baghdad,” said Asim Salman, 44, an owner of a Baghdad cafe. “Authorities must remove these posters, which make us angry.”

In Basra, located 550 km south of the capital, they hang near donation boxes decorated with scripts in both countries’ languages — Arabic and Farsi.

One such militia, Asaib Ahl Al Haq, even boasted that it launched the poster campaign, part of a trend that’s chipping away at nearly a decade’s worth of US-led efforts to bring a Western-style democracy here. Sheik Ali Al Zaidi, a senior official in the militia, said they distributed some 20,000 posters of Khamenei across Iraq. He said Khamenei “enjoys public support all over the world” including Iraq, where he “is hailed as a political and religious leader.”

Asaib Ahl Al Haq, or Band of the People of Righteousness, carried out deadly attacks against US troops before their withdrawal last year. This month, the group threatened US interests in Iraq as part of the backlash over a blasphemous film.

Iraqi and US intelligence officials have estimated that Iran sends the militia about $5 million in cash and weapons each month. The officials believe there are fewer than 1,000 Asaib Ahl Al Haq militiamen, and that their leaders cower live in Iran.

Iran’s clout with Iraq’s Shias picked up after Saddam Hussein’s fall from power in 2003, and, in many ways, accelerated since the US military pulled out. Iran has backed at least three militias in Iraq with weapons, training and millions of dollars in funding. Billion-dollar trade pacts have emerged between Teheran and Baghdad, and Iran has opened at least two banks in Iraq that are blacklisted by the United States.

Religious ties also have been renewed, with thousands of Iranian pilgrims visiting holy sites in Iraq daily, including in Najaf, where Iranian rials are as common a currency as Iraqi dinars, and Farsi is easily understood. The posters may reflect a push among some groups for a clerical system similar to Iran’s. Teheran is widely believed to be lobbying for a member of its ruling theocracy, Grand Ayatollah Mahmoud Hashemi Shahroudi, to succeed Iraq’s 81-year-old spiritual leader, Grand Ayatollah Ali Al Sistani.

Ever since the ouster of Saddam’s regime, political leaders in Iraq have sought to rebuild and strengthen relations with Iran, which has responded in kind. Teheran has not been shy about wielding its influence. It was at Iran’s urging that cleric Muqtada Al Sadr grudgingly threw his political support behind longtime foe Nouri Al Maliki, allowing him to remain prime minister in 2010 after falling short in national elections.

In return, Al Maliki last year all but ignored Iranian military incursions on Kurdish lands in northern Iraq. The government also has delayed, and in Al Sadr’s case, quashed, arrest warrants on militants backed by Iranian forces and financiers. Still, even some Iraqis, like the cleric Al Sadr and the cafe owner Salman, advocate retaining strong Iraqi nationalism and their Arab identity.

Iraqi government spokesman Ali Al Dabbagh condemned the Khamenei posters and said they could add to the already-strained political unrest in the country.
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#1  There is nothing Nation Building can't do---turning Iraq back into Iranian province after 1300 years hiatus is small potatoes.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/26/2012 7:26 Comments || Top||

#2  Iran, Africa, and much of the Middle East represent a culmination of the failure of the people to develop the attitudes and institutions favorable to peace and progress. Factional fighting and tribalism in many of these regions is as old as the sands and the paintings of the Blombos caves.

This idea of Nation Building and that democratic impulse is universal, and a democratic heart throbs in every thorax is a feckless, arrogant, and imposing notion.

It was not for nothing that Saddam fought Iran. When dictatorial kleptomaniacs war against each other, we should put on the Orville Redenbacher and enjoy a cold adult beverage.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/26/2012 8:46 Comments || Top||

#3  Ahmadinejad has repor said that Iran "loves" both warring camps, Assad + Rebels, as per Syria, so IMO prolly safe to say ditto Iran as per any + all inside Iraq???

* ION WAFF > IRAQIS VOW TO SHOOT DOWN TURKISH JETS | [Hurriyet News] IRAQ NOW ARMED TO SHOOT DOWN TURKISH JETS, SAYS AIR FORCE OFFICER, as per Turkish hunt for PKK Militants + aligned inside Iraq.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 09/26/2012 23:51 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Israeli defense chief proposes West Bank pullout
JERUSALEM: Israel’s defense minister called for a unilateral pullout from much of the West Bank in published comments Monday, saying Israel must take “practical steps” if peace efforts with the Palestinians remain stalled.

The comments by Defense Minister Ehud Barak appeared to put him at odds with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who has resisted making any major concessions to the Palestinians in the absence of peace talks. Negotiations have been deadlocked for nearly four years. Netanyahu’s office declined comment.
Barak's a noted dove so this isn't the most unlikely thing he'd say...
Barak’s proposal is unlikely to be implemented, at least in the near term. Netanyahu’s coalition is dominated by hard-liners who would be reluctant to embrace the plan. But Netanyahu is widely expected to call early elections in the coming weeks, and Barak may be trying to attract centrist voters to his party ahead of an upcoming campaign.

Speaking to the Israel Hayom newspaper, Barak called for uprooting dozens of Jewish settlements in the West Bank, but said Israel would keep major settlement “blocs.” These blocs, home to 80 to 90 percent of the settler population, are mostly located near the frontiers with Israel proper, though one of them, Ariel, is located deep inside the West Bank. Barak also said Israel would need to maintain a military presence along the West Bank’s border with Jordan.

The remaining settlers would be given financial incentives to leave, or be allowed to remain in their homes under Palestinian control for a five-year “trial period,” Barak said.

“It’s better to reach an agreement with the Palestinians, but if that doesn’t happen, we must take practical steps to start a separation,” he said. “It will help us not only in dealing with the Palestinians, but also with other countries in the region, with the Europeans, and with the American administration — and of course (will help) us.”

The proposal falls far short of Palestinian demands for all of the West Bank, along with adjacent east Jerusalem and the Gaza Strip, for a future independent state. Israel captured the areas in the 1967 Mideast war, though it withdrew unilaterally from Gaza in 2005.

Sabri Sedam, an aide to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, rejected Barak’s proposal.
Of course he did. The Paleos don't want peace...
He said continued Israeli control of the settlement blocs and east Jerusalem would make the establishment of a Palestinian state impossible.

“The major settlement blocs separate the West Bank and confiscates east Jerusalem,” Sedam said. “These settlement blocs are not isolated populations. They are connected communities, passing through the Palestinian land, which kills any geographical contiguity for a Palestinian state.”

“We have not been a year or two in Judea and Samaria, but 45 years,” Barak said, using the biblical terms for the West Bank. “The time has come to make decisions based not only on ideology and gut feelings, but from a cold reading of reality.”

But unilateral moves are extremely controversial in Israel. Israel pulled out of the Gaza Strip in 2005, citing demographics. Within two years, Hamas militants overran the territory, using it to fire thousands of rockets into Israel. Israeli hard-liners fear the same thing could happen in the West Bank.
Posted by: Steve White || 09/26/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Unlikely to be implemented" > 'tis a polite way of saying it.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 09/26/2012 1:27 Comments || Top||

#2  Joseph are you Ok?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/26/2012 7:22 Comments || Top||

#3  Trading land for peace? A genius idea! I don't know why nobody ever thought of *that* before.
Posted by: SteveS || 09/26/2012 10:14 Comments || Top||

#4  Good kopveytik/bad kopveytik.
Posted by: Shinter Javirong9154 || 09/26/2012 15:52 Comments || Top||

#5  According to Ma'an News, the Palestinians have rejected the idea. So that's that.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/26/2012 21:35 Comments || Top||


Science & Technology
Army's Long Endurance Multi-Intelligence Air Vehicle
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/26/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I'd recommend staying with the white colour scheme. Somehow a fleshtone LEMV just wouldn't seem appropriate.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/26/2012 4:13 Comments || Top||

#2  Read the article with this on in the background.

Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 09/26/2012 10:20 Comments || Top||

#3  BP that works!.

Those were the days my friend we thought they'd never end. We'd sign and dance forever and a day.
We lived the life we choosed(had chosen didn't sound correct) and thought we never lose, for we were young and sure to have are way....Something like that from an old memory. That Sheryl was hot.
Posted by: Dale || 09/26/2012 10:39 Comments || Top||

#4  Looks like a $500m missile target.
Posted by: Skidmark || 09/26/2012 12:18 Comments || Top||

#5  Another fine product bought with your tax dollars from Hindenburg Aerospace.
Posted by: Shinter Javirong9154 || 09/26/2012 15:56 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Ahmadinejad pushes new world order
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Tuesday that a new world order needs to emerge, away from years of what he called American bullying and domination.

Ahmadinejad spoke to The Associated Press in a wide-ranging interview on the sidelines of the U.N. General Assembly — his last as president of Iran. He was to address the assembly Wednesday morning.

The Iranian leader also discussed solutions for the Syrian civil war, dismissed the question of Iran's nuclear ambition and claimed that despite Western sanctions his country is better off than it was when he took office in 2005.

"God willing, a new order will come together and we'll do away with everything that distances us," Ahmadinejad said, speaking through a translator. "I do believe the system of empires has reached the end of the road. The world can no longer see an emperor commanding it."

"Now even elementary school kids throughout the world have understood that the United States government is following an international policy of bullying," he said.

President Barack Obama warned Iran earlier Tuesday that time is running out to resolve the dispute over its nuclear program. In a speech to the General Assembly, Obama said the United States could not tolerate an Iran with atomic weapons.

Ahmadinejad would not respond directly to the president's remarks, saying he did not want to influence the U.S. presidential election in November.

But he argued that the international outcry over Iran's nuclear enrichment program was just an excuse by the West to dominate his country. He claimed that the United States has never accepted Iran's choice of government after the 1979 Islamic revolution.

"Everyone is aware the nuclear issue is the imposition of the will of the United States," he said. "I see the nuclear issue as a non-issue. It has become a form of one-upmanship."

Ahmadinejad said he favored more dialogue, even though negotiations with world powers remain stalled after three rounds of high-level meetings since April.

He said some world leaders have suggested to him that Iran would be better off holding nuclear talks only with the United States.

"Of course I am not dismissing such talks," he said, asked if he were open to discussions with the winner of the American presidential election.
Posted by: tipper || 09/26/2012 01:07 || Comments || Link || [12 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Ahmadinejad pushes new world odor order
Posted by: Large Darling of the Antelope3345 || 09/26/2012 1:17 Comments || Top||

#2  Blair's law.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 09/26/2012 7:03 Comments || Top||

#3  With HIM on top, of course.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 09/26/2012 12:01 Comments || Top||

#4  If I was Ahmadinjad ... I wouldn't be going out and buying a new car, new home furniture, or even green fruit from the grocery outlet. The chances that he's gonna' survive long enough to make all the payments - are looking kinda' slim :-)
Posted by: Raider || 09/26/2012 12:39 Comments || Top||

#5  I've got a new world order, too, Ah-a-dinnah-jacket.

One that doesn't include YOU. Or any of the cinders left of you.
Posted by: Barbara || 09/26/2012 12:59 Comments || Top||

#6  I hear the phrase "New World Order" a great deal from politicians and others. Where does that phrase originate? Dinnerjacket didn't invent it.
Posted by: JohnQC || 09/26/2012 14:17 Comments || Top||

#7  think it's an old political slogan from Pres. Bush. That's Bush senior. It was originally meant in a different context.
Posted by: Raider || 09/26/2012 16:40 Comments || Top||

#8  Jimmah is partially to blame.
Posted by: canalzone || 09/26/2012 22:01 Comments || Top||


Iran test-fires 4 missiles made to hit warships
These guys are getting to be as boring as the North Koreans...
Iran has test-fired four missiles designed to hit warships during a drill near the strategic Strait of Hormuz, an Iranian military commander said.

The missiles were fired simultaneously and hit a "big target" the size of a warship, sinking it within 50 seconds, Gen. Ali Fadavi of the powerful Revolutionary Guard was quoted as saying by the semi-official Fars news agency.

The Fars report late on Monday was the first indication of an Iranian military exercise taking place simultaneously and close to US-led joint naval manoeuvres in the Arabian Gulf, including mine-sweeping drills, which got under way last week. Fadavi did not elaborate on the ongoing Iranian exercise or the type of missiles fired but said the Guard is planning a "massive naval manoeuvre in the near future" in the strait.

On Sunday, a senior Guard commander warned that Iran would target United States bases in the region in the event of war with Israel. Gen. Amir Ali Hajizadeh, claimed no Israeli attack can happen without the support of its most important ally, the United States, making all Unites States military bases a legitimate target.
Posted by: Steve White || 09/26/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Iff Iran does follow through wid its hallowed "Japan/Egypt" Model, where Weaps-grade NucMats will be stockpiled + stored only for use in times of national mil crisis, then by definition in the interim Iran must hope to ally itself to already Nuke-armed Muslim states, e.g. PAKISTAN [Other?], besides of course Russia + China.

Until such time that Iran does dev its own potent arsenal, Conventional or Nuclear, PAKISTAN'S, etc. LRBMS + RUSSIA, CHINA is its realistic defense agz the US in the Gulf.

* XINHUA > IRAN SAYS WW3 MAY ERUPT IFF ATTACKED.

* DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > IRAN'S SUPREME GUIDE [Supreme Ldr = Ayatollah Khameini] ORDERS IRGC + QUDS FORCE TO FOCUS ON NEIGHBORING COUNTRIES.

Middle East + Muslim States,Peoples first, Africa + Latin America, etc. can come later.

Move along, people, clearly no OWG Caliphate, OWG Ummah, or Islamic Superpower agenda here.

* SAME > ISRAELI LOBBYIST HINTS NEW "PEARL HARBOR" [PH-style attack agz us] MAY BE NEEDED TO GET US INTO WAR WID IRAN.

ARTIC > LOBBYIST = denotes that ...
- IRAN IS NOT LIKELY TO GO TO WAR = INITIATE WAR.
- POTUS OBAMA Admin simil unlikely to invol US in any post-NucProg strike ISRAEL-IRAN WAR.
- US INTERESTS IS BEST SERVED VIA THE WAY IT HISTORICALLY GETS INVOLVED IN WARS, i.e. sudden or surprise Mil Incident or major attack by a foreign power.

[WW3: DESTRUCTION OF THE BATTLESHIP OKLAHOMA, WHITE RABBIT- THEME FROM "PLATOON" here].

* SAME > [Pravda] RUSSIA TO LIBERATE WORLD FROM US OCCUPATION.

SEND THE MESSAGE TO GORBACHEV - TORA!TORA!TORA!

And once again, Virgina, we learn why naked Babes wid Divine Swords should never be allowed to live under lakes - ITS SHARIA, D *** NG IT, ITS SHARIA!

Either that, or never allow VLAD near any Siberian Cranes evar! again.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 09/26/2012 1:24 Comments || Top||

#2  Did they draw the target circles before the missiles hit, or after?
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/26/2012 13:53 Comments || Top||

#3  Love the photoshop pic.
Posted by: DarthVader || 09/26/2012 16:54 Comments || Top||


Qatar leader calls for Arab military intervention in Syria
[Al Ahram] The emir of Qatar on Tuesday called for an Arab intervention force to be sent to Syria to halt the escalating conflict. Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa Al-Thani, a key backer of the Syrian opposition, made the call at the UN General Assembly after UN leader the ephemeral Ban Ki-moon
... of whom it can be said to his credit that he is not Kofi Annan...
said the conflict had become "calamity" that threatens global peace.

US President Barack Obama
I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody...
called for the international community to join together to end the rule of Hereditary President-for-Life Bashir Pencilneck al-Assad
Despoiler of Deraa...
. Because of the failure of international efforts to end the war "it is better for Arab countries themselves to intervene out of their humanitarian, political and military duties and do what is necessary to stop the bloodshed," al-Thani told the General Assembly.

The emir cited the precedent of an Arab intervention force sent to Leb in the 1970s in a bid to halt that country's civil war. He called the Arab League
...an organization of Arabic-speaking states with 22 member countries and four observers. The League tries to achieve Arab consensus on issues, which usually leaves them doing nothing but a bit of grimacing and mustache cursing...
-backed operation in 1976 "a step that proved to be effective and useful." The Qatar leader is a fierce critic of Assad whose government has accused Qatar and Soddy Arabia
...a kingdom taking up the bulk of the Arabian peninsula. Its primary economic activity involves exporting oil and soaking Islamic rubes on the annual hajj pilgrimage. The country supports a large number of princes in whatcha might call princely splendor. When the oil runs out the rest of the world is going to kick sand in their national face...
of arming Syrian rebels.

Al-Thani said the 18-month old Syrian conflict "has reached an unacceptable phase" with a government "that does not hesitate to use all sorts of weapons against its people." He said intervention was needed because all efforts to "get Syria out of the cycle of killing" had been in vain and the UN Security Council has "failed" to take a stand.

The conflict "is a regional calamity with global ramifications" that needs action by the Security Council, Ban said as he opened the summit. "The international community should not look the other way as violence spirals out of control," Ban told world leaders, adding that "brutal" rights abuses were being committed by Assad's forces.

He said the Security Council and countries in the region must "solidly and concretely" support peace efforts by UN-Arab League envoy Lakhdar Brahimi. "We must stop the violence and flow of arms to both sides and set in motion a Syrian-led transition as soon as possible," Ban added.

The 15-nation Security Council is deadlocked over the conflict which Syrian activists say has left more than 29,000 dead.
Posted by: Fred || 09/26/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [10 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Syria

#1  The emir of Qatar on Tuesday called for an Arab intervention force to be sent to Syria to halt the escalating conflict.

Arab solutions for Arab difficulties I always say. Have at it! I'll be cheering you on from my recliner.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/26/2012 4:38 Comments || Top||

#2  Just as long as it doesn't involve Qatari's - I'd say they'd support it 100%. Hahahaha!!!
Posted by: Raider || 09/26/2012 16:42 Comments || Top||



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