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Afghanistan
Karzai wishes he had sided with the taliban
WaPo reports today:

- Karzai depressed
- Karzai hard to work with
- Karzai irrational
- Karzai obsessed with getting private security guards out
- US military and diplo personnel don't know what to do

OMG!!!! It's Viet Nam yet again!!!!!1!11!! We need another photo of Marine helicopters taking babies off the roof of the embassy!!!!!

Even Ambassador Holbrooke's last words apparently were that we need to get out of Afghanistan. Just when we're getting so good at following them back across the border and blowing up the compound that the only safe place to be a Number Three is Somalia.
Posted by: lord garth || 12/14/2010 07:50 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Holbrooke's final words to his surgeon were more likely something along the line of: "Hey! Don't start cutting yet! The anesthetic hasn't kicked in! I don't want to die! Mommy! Give me more drugs! Yargleblargle! Guh! Guh! Grr! (out cold)."
Posted by: Anonymoose || 12/14/2010 9:46 Comments || Top||

#2  How about dump Karzai in a Taliban camp.
Posted by: Uleger Barnsmell4617 || 12/14/2010 10:48 Comments || Top||

#3  But the diplomats failed to grasp the depth of his anger - and his belief that the billions in foreign assistance flowing into Afghanistan was causing more harm than good.

"We could have listened to him then," a senior U.S. diplomat said. "But nobody took him seriously."


Why not?
Posted by: Uleger Barnsmell4617 || 12/14/2010 10:56 Comments || Top||

#4  Sounds as if Karzai has stashed away enough money for himself and family and it looking around for a safe way to retire.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 12/14/2010 10:57 Comments || Top||

#5  "The biggest problem in our relationship with Karzai is that we don't have any diplomats who actually have a relationship with him," said a U.S. military official in Kabul.

Why not?
Posted by: Uleger Barnsmell4617 || 12/14/2010 10:57 Comments || Top||

#6  So is Karzai aware of what happened to Diem once we decided we didn't like him anymore?
Posted by: Glenmore || 12/14/2010 13:04 Comments || Top||

#7  Diem's death was relatively painless.

Mohammad Najibullah Ahmadzai (the Soviet puppet) was beaten and tortured before being killed. Interestingly, he (Najihbullah) apparently believed he had an "in' with the Taliban and refused an offer of limited asylm in north Afghanistan.
Posted by: Lord Garth || 12/14/2010 14:14 Comments || Top||

#8  Probably most NATO servismen in Afghanistan wish it as well.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 12/14/2010 15:14 Comments || Top||

#9  i agree with dumping him in a taliban camp, from about 5000 feet
Posted by: chris || 12/14/2010 16:50 Comments || Top||

#10  According to WaPo via Drudge: his final words were to his Pakistani surgeon: "You've got to stop this war in Afghanistan."

Sounds to me more like telling the Pakistanis to stop supporting their Talibunny friends than US Out Now!

As for Karzai, he has to live there with whoever wins. Given that the US has declared their intention to throw the game by leaving early, I can see his point of view.
Posted by: SteveS || 12/14/2010 17:25 Comments || Top||


Supreme Court Studies Electoral Cases
[Tolo News] Head of the Supreme Court said during a meeting with some protesting candidates that electoral cases will be acted upon for justice and out of deference to law

Head of the Supreme Court's Publication section remarked it's one of the legal obligations of Supreme Court to investigate cases sent by Attorney General's Office.

"When protesting candidates held a meeting with head of the Supreme Court, they were assured that this is an obligation to address such types of cases," said Head of Supreme Court's Publication, Abdul Wakil Omari.

Meanwhile,
...back at the ranch...
the Attorney General's Office once again pressed on cancellation of elections final results and strongly rejected all allegations which were referred to its accusation letter issued yesterday.

Yesterday Head of the IEC said Attorney General has sought the execution of all members of electoral employees.

Attorney General's Office announced all cases related to elections have been sent to Supreme Court. It said it had sought cancellation of final results in the allegation letter and any decision taken will be applicable.

Deputy Attorney General, Rahmatullah Nazari, said: "If the Supreme Court decides the cancellation of final results and calls for a new vote counting or considers punishment for poll workers accused of fraud, we will immediately act based on that."

While the IEC says the Attorney General's Office has jugged four of its ordinary employees, the Attorney General's Office says the arrest of the four employees is not connected to parliamentary election, adding that the 'allegation letter' focuses on 14 poll staff who have not yet been jugged.

Meanwhile,
...way back at the ranch...
the IEC says no organisation has the right to cancel the vote, and the article 62 of the election law clearly specifies the authorities of the Electoral Complaints Commission.

Article 63 of the election law entitles the ECC to address electoral violations, and the article 64 gives the ECC the right to ensure punishment of violators after investigating about fraud cases.

Some of the winning MPs consider the Attorney General's interefence in the affair of the electoral commissions against the Afghan constitution and the election law.

The MPs, in a gathering today urged the Afghanistan's Caped President to officially inaugurate the new House of Representatives as soon as possible.
Posted by: Fred || 12/14/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


'Karzai Cannot Cancel Parliamentary Election
[Tolo News] At a presser on Monday, the front man for President Karzai said the President will act based on law about elections

Soon a legal way will be found to bring an end to disputes about the parliamentary elections, said the front man for President Karzai, Wahid Omar.

He said based on law, the President does not have the authority to intervene in parliamentary poll issues and to set a date for its inauguration or to open it.

"The Afghanistan's Caped President hasn't got the authority to cancel results of the elections. Mr President will only act within the framework of law in Afghanistan," he said.

While head of the Independent Election Commission remarked Attorney General's Office meddling will lead to an unavoidable crisis in the country, Mr Omar said disputes between the two organisations will not lead to any crisis.

"What has happened in connection with elections in Afghanistan could happen in any democratic society and this should not be referred to as crisis," he said.

The front man for President Karzai talks about a quick solution for the elections at a time as tensions between the Attorney General's Office and electoral commissions are already soaring.
Posted by: Fred || 12/14/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Taliban Could Use UN Planes to Come for Peace Talks: UN
[Tolo News] United Nations, aka the Oyster Bay Chowder and Marching Society will safely fly Taliban leaders who are willing to hold peace talks with Afghan government in Kabul

During a visit in Kabul, top UN delegates have said the UN is ready to provide any sort of aid to facilitate peace talks in Afghanistan, said a member of high peace council on condition of anonymity.

The Peace Council member thinks removal of some Taliban leaders' names from UN Security Council's blacklist may encourage them to renounce violence.

In the past two days, the UN delegates were in Kabul and held consistent meetings with members of High Peace Council. The Afghan media were not inforrmed about their trip to Kabul, the member of peace council said.

The delegation was consisted of four envoys, one from the ephemeral Ban Ki-moon's Office, two representatives from the UN Headquarters in New York, and the fourth envoy hasn't been identified yet.

People who attended the meeting between the UN delegates and Afghan High Peace Council, included UN special envoy to Afghanistan [Staffan de Mistura], Head of peace council [Burhanuddin Rabbani], a former member of the Taliban group [Hakim Mujahid], President Karzai's advisor and member of Peace Council [Masoum Stanekzai] and some others.

The Peace Council has emphasised that safety of Taliban leaders who may be willing to come for talks in any parts of the country should be considered.
Posted by: Fred || 12/14/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Taliban

#1  Note to the Taliban: Specifically request the UN provide some of those Airbus A380s with the Trent 900 Rolls Royce engines; the ones that HAVEN'T been touched and replaced yet by infidel mechanics. I understand Qantas has a bunch you could probably borrow.....
Posted by: USN,Ret || 12/14/2010 0:33 Comments || Top||

#2  The available air space is very crowded. Russian Anotov-26's from Turkey flying NOE would be my recommendation.
Posted by: Besoeker || 12/14/2010 2:46 Comments || Top||

#3  Talibunnies? UN aircraft? I'm smelling a two'fer opportunity.
Posted by: Whiskey Mike || 12/14/2010 3:30 Comments || Top||

#4  You think a taliban honcho is a violent oppressive because his name is on some list in new york?

Well I guess they said safely fly, nothing about the landing, eh binny?
Posted by: swksvolFF || 12/14/2010 10:29 Comments || Top||


Afghan-India-Pakistan Trilateral Conference Held in Kabul
[Tolo News] Afghanistan-India-Pakistain trilateral conference was held in Kabul in a bid to find common grounds for peace and prosperity in the region

This is the fourth such sort of conferences held among Afghanistan, India and Pakistain. During the meeting India urged a transparent relation between the three countries.

Pakistain's envoy said Pakistain is the victim of terrorism in the region.
So true. But they're native Pakistani terrorists, with a few international friends.
Presence of Taliban in tribal areas and US Arclight airstrikes in Pakistain have caused widespread concerns in Islamabad.

While calling for international efforts to bring peace in the region with consideration of human rights,
... which are not the same thing as individual rights, mind you...
participants in the conference said the only way out from crisis and insecurity is democracy.

Head of the Afghan Foreign Ministry's Centre for Strategic Studies, Dr Davood Moradian, said: "with such sort of conferences, we want Pakistain's misunderstandings about India's role in Afghanistan to be clear."

"The delegations of India, Pakistain and Afghanistan are meeting together to try and address some of the concerns, misapprehension and particularly misunderstandings," said Indian ambassador to Afghanistan, Gautam Mukhopadhaya.

A member of Pakistain's National Council said: "after 2001 there was a bit of distrust, there was a lack of communication, it was a new experience. Americans had come into Afghanistan. Certain Presumptions were made early in 2001. Presumptions which have not passed the test of time. They have not been vindicated."

Hameed Mubarez, member of Afghanistan's High Peace Council said: "if I say the talks will have an immediate effect on security, ensuring peace and removal of political discrepancies, it would be ahead of time."
Posted by: Fred || 12/14/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan


Africa Horn
Arms whistleblower proved right
[The Nation (Nairobi)] When the campaigner for seafarers' rights, Mr Andrew Mwangura, blew the whistle on the T-72 tanks destined for South Sudan, he was jugged and charged with making alarming statements.

He was also charged with being in possession of bhang. Although he was acquitted by the court on both charges, doubts remained over his assertions that the 33 tanks were destined for Southern Sudan, contrary to the government position that they belonged to the Kenya military.

However,
The infamous However...
the diplomatic cables released by whistleblowing website WikiLeaks have vindicated Mr Mwangura.

According to the cables, the Russian-made tanks that the government denied were destined for South Sudan last year ended up there.

A 2009 cable released by the web site says a senior State Department official produced satellite images that appeared to show that the tanks unloaded in Kenya were trans-shipped to South Sudan.

When contacted over the latest developments on Sunday, Mr Mwangura, the coordinator of the Seafarers Assistance Programme, said he did not want to comment on the issues because of a pending case.

"You know I have sued the government in connection with this matter and that is why I don't want to comment on this issue," he said.

Apart from the tanks from the Ukraine, other assorted arms that were brought into the country by mv Faina consisted of more than 812 tonnes of ammunition.

The cargo also included unpacked spare parts for the tanks, Soviet-made anti-aircraft guns and rocket- propelled grenades.

The Chief of General Staff, Gen Jeremiah Kianga, laid claim to the cargo, insisting that the tanks and assorted arms belonged to the Kenyan military after pirates released the vessel they had captured off the coast of Somalia after ransom was reportedly paid.

But satellite photos released by WikiLeaks show that the T-72 tanks' actual destination was South Sudan.
Posted by: Fred || 12/14/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Sudan

#1  in possession of bhang, like that's a crime in Africa. Reminds me of another whistleblower who has been charged with an equally "stupid" crime, "Not using a condom in Sweden with your Cuban girlfriend"
This is another example of the "stupid" term : Military Intelligence.
Posted by: 746 || 12/14/2010 10:17 Comments || Top||

#2  This is another example of the "stupid" term : Military Intelligence.

You may want to come up with a different witticism after you apologize to Mr. Pruitt, owner of this site, for that one, 746. His first career was military intelligence, as you can see here. Or in the yellow block in the right sidebar of the front page of Rantburg, click on the link labelled "Bio", which goes to the same place.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/14/2010 14:05 Comments || Top||

#3  TW; People are not aware of the talent we have here at this site. The service you provide is admirable.
This is indeed an educational process. This site does catch you by surprise. Then we learn.
Posted by: Dale || 12/14/2010 18:21 Comments || Top||


Darfur rebel chief ready to battle Khartoum govt
[Arab News] Minni Minnawi, the only Darfur rebel leader to have signed a peace deal with Khartoum, has accused the government of failing to implement the 2006 deal and says he is ready to do battle.

Four years after Minnawi went it alone among Darfur rebel chiefs to sign a Darfur Peace Agreement (DPA) with the Khartoum government, which showered him with official titles, the honeymoon is over.

He predicted the south of the country would vote next month for independence, leaving northern Sudan to face its fate as a "failed state" and needing a total makeover. The Sudan Liberation Army (SLA) faction leader accused Khartoum of failing to implement the agreement and the Sudanese army of attacking his supporters in Darfur.

Minnawi has moved to southern Sudan, abandoning his government-allocated office in Khartoum where he had been serving as "senior assistant" to President Omar Bashir.

The government declared last week that its erstwhile partner was now an "enemy" and closed his Khartoum office, while the army attacked SLA supporters on Friday and Saturday.

"Our relation with the government of Khartoum was the DPA agreement. Now they are canceling the DPA," Minnawi said in Juba, the capital of former rebel southern Sudan.

"They stated that our forces have become a target of the SAF forces (Sudanese Army). That means they are pulling out of the DPA agreement," the SLA leader said.

"I can say very clearly that whenever they target our forces we will also target their forces," said Minnawi. "We will defend ourselves." Sudanese army front man Sawarmi Khaled Saad blamed Minnawi's group for the latest festivities. "Minnawi's group began the rebellion and they are now a target of the armed forces," he said.

Meanwhile,
...back at the ranch...
lawyers for a Sudanese campaign group launched a legal bid on Sunday to halt Sudan's referendum on southern independence, accusing organizers of mishandling the process, a move that could derail the Jan. 9 vote.

A group calling itself the Society Organization Network instructed lawyers to take the case to court, accusing the referendum commission of placing SPLM members in senior posts and saying southerners in the north had been prevented from registering for the vote.

"We delivered the papers to the constitutional court today," said lawyer Qurashi Al-Tom, who presented the case. "We are demanding a halt to the referendum process because we want to make sure we have a referendum that is free and fair." He said there were 250 southern plaintiffs with complaints ranging from being refused registration to vote to intimidation, arrest and kidnapping of relatives in the south.

Southern leaders said the case had been stage-managed by the north's ruling National Congress Party (NCP) to sabotage the vote, which most analysts expect to result in secession for the oil-producing south.

"It is an act of sabotage for the referendum," Yasir Arman, senior member of the South's dominant Sudan People's Liberation Movement (SPLM), said.

"It is an open secret that the National Congress was preparing the ground for such an action - this will not resolve issues." Reporters were invited to attend a news conference given by the society by a senior NCP official. The NCP official denied any link to the group, which it says represents a network of southern civil society groups with thousands of members.
Posted by: Fred || 12/14/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Sudan


Britain
Abu Hamza stumped
Jailed hate cleric Abu Hamza was yesterday refused bail despite pleading his stumps have become infected in jail.

Lawyers for the hook-handed extremist claimed he was also suffering from diabetes and was going blind.
He couldn't grow hair on his hooks, so going blind was the only option.
The 52-year-old, who was jailed for seven years in 2006 for soliciting murder, is facing extradition to the US on terror charges.

Judge Howard Riddle, at Westminster Magistrates' Court, said: "I'm told the defendant has a history of having access to false identity documents. Bail is refused."
This is where we would point and laugh, were it not unmannerly.
Posted by: tipper || 12/14/2010 03:15 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I thought this would be a cricket story.
Posted by: Eric Jablow || 12/14/2010 7:01 Comments || Top||

#2  infected huh? amputate from the neck down
Posted by: Frank G || 12/14/2010 9:48 Comments || Top||

#3  Looks like he's on the hook...
Posted by: tu3031 || 12/14/2010 10:00 Comments || Top||

#4  He also irritated the judge by frequently shouting "Yaaar!"
Posted by: Anonymoose || 12/14/2010 10:02 Comments || Top||

#5  #4 - either that or shouting 'Death to Infidels' at random intervals.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 12/14/2010 16:52 Comments || Top||

#6  LOL trailing wife

2 good in-line zingers in a row. Maybe we should consider sending Ol' Grapple Grip a printout of this story with the comment section attached.
Posted by: ryuge || 12/14/2010 18:11 Comments || Top||

#7  So what happened to his subsidized flat and is his family still on the dole?
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 12/14/2010 18:36 Comments || Top||

#8  Wonder what his fingerprints look like.
Posted by: Grunter || 12/14/2010 21:58 Comments || Top||


WikiLeaks: British attempts to engage Muslims 'made little progress'
The Stockholm bomber could not be reached for comment.
Posted by: ryuge || 12/14/2010 02:54 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  when will they " get it"?
Posted by: 746 || 12/14/2010 10:09 Comments || Top||

#2  Reminds me how the British lorded over the US about how they took off their helmets in Iraq as soon as they could, going for a softer diplomacy while the US was trigger happy. Yet Fallujia was pacified and turned to our side before Basra.

Some folks see a kinder, gentler side, others see a weak horse.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 12/14/2010 10:56 Comments || Top||

#3  You can lead a horse to water........
Posted by: Paul || 12/14/2010 12:36 Comments || Top||

#4  Since 1916.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 12/14/2010 13:36 Comments || Top||


Caribbean-Latin America
PRI Victories in 2011 May Be Foregone Conclusion
by Chris Covert

The head of the Partido Revolucionario Institucional (PRI), Beatriz Paredes, gave a speech in Hidalgo on Monday providing party members with a summary of electoral victories in the last four years.

State elections for 2010 were a stunning win for the PRI where PRI maintained its hold on all its seats in 10 states and swapped one with opposition parties despite a Partido Accion Nacional (PAN) president.

Outlining the totality of victories, Mrs Paredes said PRI:
  • won 15 of 21 governorships.

  • Majorities in 633 local councils

  • Pluarities in 1001 local coiuncils.

  • Pluarities in 184 of 300 federal deputies.

  • Majorities in state legislatures in 23 of 31 state capitals.

The five Mexican states at issue in 2011 are Guerrero, Baja California Sur, Nayarit and the State of Mexico.

The last state, the state of Mexico, is the most troubling for opposition parties because of the passage of Peña Nieto's law in the state of Mexico last September and the confirmation of its constitutionality of the Mexican supreme court, Suprema Corte de Justicia de la Nacion (SCJN), two weeks ago.

The law outlaws coalition candidates in Mexico state offices where minority parties can field common candidates against a much stronger party, such as the PRI.

In southern Mexico, several local electoral candidates from coalitions formed with PAN and Partido de la Revolución Democratica (PRD), called Convergence among other names, have frustrated local PRI candidates.

With the new law in place in Mexico, a national supreme court endorsement and only five more elections before the presidential election, a fear exists that those legislatures with PRI majorities may pass similar laws preventing inroads into PRI recent gains.

It is likely the contest in Mexico state will be seen as the bellwether for 2011.

The governor of Mexico state, Enrique Peña Nieto was the architect of the new law which outlaws coalition candidates in Mexico state, and is seen as the most likely PRI candidate for the 2012 presidential election.

Leftists and PRD politicians called the Mexican Supreme Court's endorsement of the law as a "wedding gift" to attorney Peña Nieto, who was married late last month in a widely publicized wedding with Mexican television soap opera star Angelica Rivera.

Since that time PAN politicians have been trying to come up with a strategy to counter the coming probable gains by PRI, especially in Mexico state, where PAN will be focusing its efforts in an attempt to upset Peña Nieto's political ambitions.

One of the actions PAN is considering is to ask the Mexican federal Instituto Federal Electoral (IFE) to allocate radio and television time for local elections in Mexico state.

The action potentially contravenes Mexican law. However, PAN politicians think that the time allocations the IFE is responsible for could ensure a fairer treatment of PAN candidates in Mexico state.

The calender for the election in Mexico state is:
  • April 6-15: registration period.

  • April 16: Campaigning begins.

  • July 3rd: Election day.
Posted by: badanov || 12/14/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I wonder if PRI is running on something of a "ruthless" law & order platform.

It would be interesting to do a public poll right now for the idea of restoring life terms and even the death penalty for violent crime.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 12/14/2010 10:04 Comments || Top||

#2  I would not be surprised if an anonymous poll showed an acceptance of extra-judicial-assassinations in Mexico right about now.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 12/14/2010 10:54 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
Destitute TV Girl Finally Died of Starvation
Via Josh Stanton.

Look at the picture of this young woman and tell me that the world should do nothing to stop Kim, his evil son and his evil, odious regime.
Posted by: Steve White || 12/14/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Her body was apparently already decomposing by the time it was found, but the local People’s Safety Ministry agents were in no hurry to deal with it because she did not have any family, so it was left for a long time.

I can't help but think they were planning on using her for fertilizer.
Posted by: gorb || 12/14/2010 2:38 Comments || Top||

#2  Mr G hello; I believe you are being serious. Most would I think take this for you being facetious.
In my opinion they put a low value on life especially female.
Posted by: Dale || 12/14/2010 18:52 Comments || Top||

#3  Testomony of Sun-Ok Lee (U.S. Senate - Comittee of the Judicary)

Advisory: This is not for the faint of heart. Seriously - it is pretty horrible.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 12/14/2010 19:14 Comments || Top||

#4  Mr G hello; I believe you are being serious

Let's just say that I wouldn't put it past people in their situation.

A worker's paradise indeed. Too bad there are so few workers.
Posted by: gorb || 12/14/2010 19:59 Comments || Top||


Unfed Soldiers Desert Counter-Invasion Exercises
"Amidst freezing temperatures fluctuating between 20 and 30 degrees, soldiers taking part in a joint air force - special operations forces training exercise at a military airbase in Samjiyeon weren't even provided with food," reported a source in Yanggangdo on the 6th December.
If that's the case, the Korean peninsula is about to go kaboom. They can't even feed their soldiers.
In North Korea's current wartime conditions, an article on the 9th December reported that the North's low altitude AN-2 fighter planes were taking part in counter invasion exercises with members of the of the 43rd brigade 10th corps special forces .

"Cold and hungry soldiers raiding villages for dogs and even roasting the rats and cats they find during winter exercises is not entirely new but the number of soldiers deserting because of their senior officers physical and verbal abuse is growing," said the source.

North Korea's Central Chosun TV was quoted as saying "No one can predict what might happen," threatening the South with the possibility of all-out war. But the source‘s account is evidence that in a reality dictated by deteriorating economic circumstances soldierly discipline is receding in a military that can scarcely feed itself.

"In wartime conditions soldiers who desert their base can be passed over to the military courts," the source added. Those found guilty could be executed by firing squad.
Posted by: Steve White || 12/14/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This Artic is seemingly in line with

* GLOBAL TIMES.CN FORUM > DEFECTOR: NORTH KOREA LACKS FUEL TO FIGHT A WAR. Actually, little to no fuel for any kind of War agz the US-ALLIES = ANYBODY, BUT DO HAVE ENUFF FOR PARADES + PASS INSPECTIONS, ETC. MINOR THINGYS???

On the one side, this could be embarassing for Pyongyang as in Histoire', WHOLE ARMIES + LARGE UNITS, GROUPS HAD DESERTED AT OR NEAR THE MOMENT OF BATTLE WHEN THEY SAY WHAT THE OTHER SIDE WAS EATING + DRINKING.

OTOH, ARMY STARVATION = may induce the DRPK GOVT to resort to UNILATER OR PREEMPTIVE NUCLEAR STRIKE METHODS ASAP INSTEAD OF PUTTING OFF.

IMO the longer the DPRK ARMED FROCES SUFFERS from these kinds of internal problems the greater the likelihood that KIMMIE WILL PRIORITIZE A CONVENTIONAL MILSTRIKE OR NUCSTRIKE AGZ A MAJOR US-ONLY TARGET, OR ELSE A USFK, USFJ TARGET [also read, UNO Offices], NOT THE SOKORS.

IOW, THE DANGER FACTOR FOR THE "USS HOLY/MIGHTY GEORGE" CVN + AIR BASES JUST ESCALATED HIGHER.

Even for GUAM. e.g. Andersen AFB, as the DPRK has stated it has LRBMS that can hit us???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 12/14/2010 0:59 Comments || Top||

#2  It will be impossible for NORK to wage war. Not only have the grain stores been emptied, but there would not be enough fuel to move equipment. It is destitute.
Posted by: newc || 12/14/2010 9:50 Comments || Top||

#3  Makes you wonder what would happen if the South used loudspeakers to broadcast: "Surrender and you will be fed and kept warm. If you do not fire your weapons, you will not be fired upon."
Posted by: Anonymoose || 12/14/2010 10:08 Comments || Top||

#4  Don't use loudspeakers, custom video players with the same message and views of daily life in South Korea could be produced by the South for very little and dropped by UAV with offers of employment if they sit out the envelopment.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 12/14/2010 10:43 Comments || Top||

#5  Or just pick a time when the breeze blows from the South most of the time and have a month long barbecue just South of the DMZ.

Posted by: crosspatch || 12/14/2010 13:14 Comments || Top||

#6  Even if they use their nooks, I don't take the Nork nook threat as being able to do anything more than just give the Skors a bloody nose just before getting eviscerated in return. Even if they actually can deliver them, and they actually do go "pop".

What has me wondering is whether or not Kimmie knows that nukes aren't worth a d@mn. Have his underlings been feeding him crap about how mighty his nukes are? Is Kimmie aware that he has wimpy nukes, but is just blowing smoke so that all his subjects think he is to be feared?
Posted by: gorb || 12/14/2010 13:15 Comments || Top||

#7  I hate to be a bubble buster here but this is not news. NK soldiers routinely scavenge villages and go awol. Whats interesting is that we are hearing about it from an open source.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 12/14/2010 15:22 Comments || Top||

#8  Just one point of information:

The AN-2 "fighter planes" are really bi-planes designed for crop dusting and transport. They are not armed.

Al
Posted by: Frozen Al || 12/14/2010 15:35 Comments || Top||

#9  Didn't the Great Wall of China work very well until the Mongols figured out to bribe the guards along the wall with shoes?

Heard that somewhere.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 12/14/2010 16:13 Comments || Top||

#10  An-2-2008-Peenemunde-tail

The feared AN-2 fighter plane. If you keep close to the ground, you may have some measure of stealth., with a little bit of luck.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 12/14/2010 18:45 Comments || Top||

#11  From what I've read, one of the North's plans is to load up AN-2's with Special Forces teams, fly them on one way missions as far south as they can go, and let the Spec Ops guys raise hell in the rear.
Posted by: tu3031 || 12/14/2010 19:01 Comments || Top||

#12  North Korea has a number of the aircraft with] wooden propellers and canvas wings on their variants (the Y-5 version license-built in China) giving them a low radar cross-section, and therefore a limited degree of "stealth". In a war they could possibly be used to parachute or deliver special forces troops behind enemy lines for sabotage operations.
Posted by: tu3031 || 12/14/2010 19:04 Comments || Top||

#13  crosspatch,
a PORKLIGHT strike?
Posted by: swksvolFF || 12/14/2010 19:17 Comments || Top||

#14  I'd understood the real fear from North Korea was an artillery barrage that could smash Seaul. Food and logistics probably wouldn't make a difference in that case because North Korea would not be playing to win.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 12/14/2010 22:12 Comments || Top||


Seoul, Washington Suspect More N. Korean Uranium Sites
Oh come now, it's not like the Norks would lie to us ...
South Korea and the U.S. are trying to find out if North Korea is clandestinely operating more undisclosed uranium enrichment facilities in addition to a plant at Yongbyon it recently showed to visiting U.S. expert.

"Yongbyon was not included in the list of three or four locations that Seoul and Washington had previously suspected," a South Korean intelligence official said Monday. "We understand that the North has long been conducting a uranium enrichment experiment somewhere else."

South Korean and U.S. officials were surprised to hear about the uranium enrichment facility at Yongbyon after Siegfried Hecker's visit early last month. North Korean officials told Hecker the facility is equipped with 2,000 centrifuges. Hecker himself said he saw "hundreds."
Hecker's solution to the problem is that we should address North Korea's 'fundamental insecurity'. Seems to me the Norks are doing that. We should instead be addressing their threat to our friends in the region, and the suffering of the Nork people.
In an article for Foreign Affairs last Friday, he writes, "The centrifuge facility we saw is most likely designed to make reactor, not bomb, fuel, because it would not make sense to construct it in a previously inspected site and show it to foreign visitors. However, it is highly likely that a parallel covert facility capable of [highly enriched uranium] production exists elsewhere in the country."
His article is here.
South Korea and the U.S. apparently have their eye on a research institute in downtown Pyongyang and a missile base in Yongjori, Yanggang Province, as well as a cave complex in Kumchangri 160 km north of Pyongyang, as sites suspected of being secret uranium enrichment facilities.
Posted by: Steve White || 12/14/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ION NEWS KERALA/TOPIX > RUSSIA PUTS FORCES ON ALERT IN FAR EAST OVER KOREAN SITUATION.

and

* XINHUA > [Rodong Shimrun] DPRK MEDIAS ACCUSE JAPAN OF INVOLVEMENT IN FIRST KOREAN WAR. Nippon allegedly provided the Mil Maps used by Gen. Macarthur + UNC to wage war in 1950-53 Korean War, MAPS WHICH HAD KEPT THE TWO KOREAS DIVIDED FOR OVER 50 YEARS.

ARTIC = IFFA NEW = SECOND KOREAN WAR EVER BREAKS OUT, THE DPRK WILL MAKUE SURE THAT JAPAN PAYS THE PRICE FOR ITS MISTAKES IN BOTH THE FIRST KOREAN WAR + PRIOR IN HISTORY.

IIUC, the DPRK just threatened to militarily strike JAPAN, BOTH CONVENTIONAL + NUCLEAR???

--------

GUAM NEWS > Guam Son USN ADM. PETER GUMATAOTAO, USFK Navy, has abruptly canceled his planned physical appearance + speech at the local University of Guam [UOG]graduation ceremony, BUT MAY "APPEAR" INSTEAD VIA LD VIDEO FROM KOREA???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 12/14/2010 22:52 Comments || Top||


Norks Have 'Ultra-Modern' Uranium Enrichment Facility
North Korea has unveiled a large uranium-enrichment facility to a U.S. expert. Siegfried Hecker, a nuclear expert and co-director of the Center for International Security and Cooperation at Stanford University, visited the North early this month and North Korean officials showed him the facility equipped with hundreds of centrifuges, the New York Times reported Sunday.

Hecker said he was "stunned" by the sophisticated installation of centrifuges used to enrich uranium 235, an isotope of uranium making up a mere 0.7 percent of natural uranium, to more than 90 percent.
Definitely boom-grade if true.
This facility was unknown to the U.S. and the International Atomic Energy Agency when the last group of inspectors were expelled from the north in April 2009.

Hecker said that the centrifuges were operated from "an ultra-modern control room." "The North Koreans claimed 2,000 centrifuges were already installed and running," the daily quoted him as saying.

A former director of the Los Alamos National Laboratory, Hecker reported to the White House upon arriving in Washington. "These facilities appear to be designed primarily for civilian nuclear power, not to boost North Korea's military capability," Hecker wrote in a report on his visit. But he added it "could be readily converted to produce highly enriched uranium bomb fuel (or parallel facilities could exist elsewhere)."
Ninety percent is already bomb grade. Five to twenty percent is civilian grade.
Meeting reporters in Beijing on Nov. 13 right after he returned from Pyongyang, he also said the North claimed to be building a light-water nuclear reactor in Yongbyon, North Pyongan Province.

The North also showed the construction site of what it said was a 100 MW light-water reactor to Jack Pritchard, the president of the Korea Economic Institute in Washington and a former U.S. nuclear envoy.

The U.S. responded immediately. The Obama administration last Saturday sent a delegation led by Stephen Bosworth, the U.S. special representative for North Korea policy, to discuss the matter with South Korea, Japan and China, which are partners in six-party talks on the North's nuclear program. He met South Korean officials in Seoul on Sunday and is to fly to Tokyo on Monday and to Beijing on Tuesday.

The U.S. believes the North's uranium enrichment program violates UN Security Council Resolutions 1718 and 1874 adopted in the aftermath of its two nuclear tests, and is seeking remedies through the UN.
Why not just let Japan and the ROK have nuclear weapons? You might first ask the Chinese what they think of that idea, just to see ...
Posted by: Steve White || 12/14/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Nork Uranium Enrichment Facility 'a Ploy'
North Korea's unveiling of a uranium enrichment facility to a U.S. expert "may be a ploy designed to threaten the international community," according to a senior North Korean defector who was involved in the North's nuclear and missile development programs.

The North showed what it said was a large uranium enrichment facility to Siegfried Hecker, a nuclear expert and co-director of the Center for International Security and Cooperation at Stanford University.

"If Pyongyang had really succeeded in making highly enriched uranium and producing nuclear weapons, it would have hidden it rather than making it public," the defector said Monday.
Unless the reason is to convince the ROK and US that they dare not retaliate against Nork provocations, in which case it makes perfect sense to show some of the real goods. The Norks know we have very capable analysts so showing a fake facility isn't going to work.
He interpreted the unveiling as a ploy to get the North out of dire straits caused by a botched currency reform late last year and an exhausted treasury due to the expensive power transfer to leader Kim Jong-il's son. The North is getting desperate and trying to win concessions from the international community by ratcheting up the nuclear threat, he said.
That and ratcheting up the provocations. It's worked in the past.
The North in 2002 started making centrifuges for uranium enrichment by obtaining blueprints from Pakistan. "Under the command of the General Bureau of Atomic Energy, the country's top scientists were mobilized then to manufacture centrifuges," the defector said. But the regime's hopes came to naught since a centrifuge needs to rotate 70,000 times per minute to function properly but the North managed only 30,000 rotations per minute.

Claims that the North has more than 1,000 centrifuges are also unconvincing. "Core components have to be bought from Japan and Europe, so it would have been practically impossible under severe surveillance by the international community," he said.
There are plenty of ways the West would let this happen. Just involves money, gullible westerners and Nork duplicity. I can find all three out there in the world ...
Posted by: Steve White || 12/14/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  IMO the only real reason for Pyongyang to publicly reveal its new NucFac is that is losing its ability to control Famine + other serious national econ problems.

Again, Pyongyang is well aware that China won't think twice about sending the PLA iff it thought that the DPRK was getting too potent vee China's interests.IOW, REGARDLESS OF HOW SUCCESSFUL THE DPRK NUCPROGS ARE, THE SAME HAS A VESTED INTEREST IN MAKING SURE THAT CHINA = BEIJING DOESN'T FIND OUT ABOUT IT, OR IN ALTER THAT SUCH INNOVATIVE, EVOLUTIONARY, "PROGRESSIVE + "DECISIVE" + "GAME-CHANGING", ETC. TECHS IS NEVER FORMALLY USED OUTSIDE OF THE LABORATORY OR CLASSROOM BY THE DPRK GOVT. UNTIL SUCH TIME BEIJING APPROVES OF ITS USE.

Beijing's priority is to make sure that the DPRK, etal. does not turn its Nucweaps agz China, or in the altern that the DPRK will not emerge militarily victorious agz China even iff it did.

* PEOPLES DAILY FORUM > EXPERTS WARN OF KOREAN ESCALATION. New ROK-only drills + DPRK Counter-drills NOT GOOD FOR THE CABBAGE.

* SAME > PLA GENERAL [GEN. Luo Yuan] WANTS FUTURE CHINA TO BE "TOUGH + MILITARISTIC".

ARTIC > WEALTH alone is insufficient to make China a GREAT NATION - IT MUST HAVE MARTIAL SPIRIT + ATTITUDE, + also ABUNDANT RESOURCES + HEALTHY LEGAL, POLITICAL SYSTEM.

* SAME > HOW CHINA'S JETS THREATEN RUSSIA!?

* SAME > VLADIVOSTOK: A "TICKING TIME BOMB" IN SINO-RUSSIAN RELATIONS?
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 12/14/2010 1:24 Comments || Top||


S. Korea, US to form committee on N. Korea's nuclear threats
Everybody knows the best way to solve a problem is to form a committee. Was it Heinlein who described a committee as the only creature with 32 stomachs and no brain?
(KUNA) -- South Korea and the United States on Monday began talks on security issues including a plan to set up a joint committee to effectively deter threats from North Korea's nuclear programs and other weapons of mass destruction, Yonhap News Agency reported.

Monday's meeting of the Security Policy Initiative (SPI) forum comes as tensions run high on the Korean Peninsula following the North's deadly bombardment last month of a South Korean island, which killed four people.

Deputy Defense Minister Chang Kwang-il and his US counterpart, Michael Schiffer, deputy assistant secretary of defense for Asia and Pacific security affairs, were leading the SPI talks in Seoul, the report said, adding that the two sides plan to sign terms of reference to systemize the Extended Deterrence Policy Committee.

Extended deterrence means the US can provide tactical and strategic nuclear weapons, conventional strike and missile defense capabilities to defend South Korea in case of an attack from North Korea.

It is the first time for the US to create such a committee with a non-NATO ally.
Which makes it a groundbreaking excercise in futility.
During the SPI talks, the allies are expected to reaffirm their commitment to respond firmly should North Korea strike the South again, as it did on November 23 when it shelled the southern border island of Yeonpyeong.

The bombardment also injured 18 people and destroyed dozens of homes.

It was the first attack by the North on a civilian area on the South's soil since the end of the 1950-53 Korean War.

South Korea and the US have held SPI talks regularly since 2005 to discuss a wide range of military and defense issues.

The US has about 28,500 troops in South Korea to help defend its ally against North Korea.
Posted by: Fred || 12/14/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Commies

#1  "And that committee will conduct a study! And if that is not enough to bring the North to its knees, a strongly worded press release may be prepared!"
Posted by: Anonymoose || 12/14/2010 10:10 Comments || Top||

#2  From Parkinson's Law, Chapter 4:

THE LIFE CYCLE of the committee is so basic to our knowledge of current affairs that it is surprising more attention has not been paid to the science of comitology. The first and most elementary principle of this science is that a committee is organic rather than mechanical in its nature: it is not a structure but a plant. It takes root and grows, it flowers, wilts, and dies, scattering the seed from which other committees will bloom in their turn. Only those who bear this principle in mind can make real headway in understanding the structure and history of modern government.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 12/14/2010 18:51 Comments || Top||

#3  Not looking good:

Russian Armed Forces on High Alert Over North Korea

http://www.nktoday.com/contents/view_content/7802/russian-armed-forces-on-high-alert-over-north-korea

Posted by: Uncle Phester || 12/14/2010 18:58 Comments || Top||

#4  IMO "NO TIME LIKE THE PRESENT", i.e. this new Committee should also study the possibility of a POTENT FUTURE RUSSIAN PRESENCE IN NOKOR, as Pyongyong's "hedge" agz both overlord CHINA + US-ROK-JAPAN, + under the guise of Russo-DPRK andor REGIONAL FTA???

NORTH KOREA = knows that RUSSIA is unlikely to send in its MIlfors unless NOKOR was about to collapse or fall into the hands of the US-WEST/NATO, + will also likley prefer to watch CHINA + USA destroy each other on the Korean Peninsula [Read, KEEP CHINA OUT OF RUSS FAR EAST = YAKUTIA, KAMCHATKA-SIBERIA, SAKHALIN ISLAND].
Both Tsarist + SOviet Russia historically feared a "STRONG CHINA" ON THEIR FLANKS, A FEAR WHICH HAS NOT ABATED UNDER VLADVEDEV. COLD WAR + POST-COLD WAR RUSSIA KNOWS CHINA WANTED SAKHALIN ISLAND BACK BOTH FOR "WARM-WATER" PORTS + TO CONTAIN JAPAN + FUTURE MILOPS AGZ RUSSIA, + HAD DEV MILPLANS TO TAKE SAKHALIN BY MIL FORCE.

Beijing on its part mistrusts TOKYO = JAPAN for HIDEYOSHI'S INVASION + TURN-OF-THE-20TH-CENTURY HUMILIATIONS OF MANCHU CHINA; + followed by RUSSIA for TSARIST INVASIONS + LOSS OF LARGE SWATHES OF CHIN-CLAIMED SOVEREIGN TERRITORY. Beijing mistrusts Japan more than Russia because Japan is a fellow Asian.

Again, RISING CHINA WANTS CHINESE-CONTROLLED OR DOMINATED "WARM WATER" INTERNATIONAL/OVERSEAS PORTS.

E.G. XINHUA > CHINA URGES JAPAN TO CONSIDER ITS ASIAN NEIGHBORS ON MILITARY MATTERS, espec as per
the [Maha-Rushian]"historical record".

and

* DER SPIEGEL > [NYT OpEd] NORTH KOREA'S MISSLE ABILITY SEEN TO FAR OUTPACE IRAN'S.

Posted by: JosephMendiola || 12/14/2010 19:35 Comments || Top||


Europe
Kosovo PM 'is Mafia boss linked to drugs and sale of human organs'
THE Prime Minister of Kosovo has been named as "The Boss" of an extensive criminal network that dealt in heroin and human organs and carried out assassinations in a devastating report by the Council of Europe.

Hashim Thaci, who won re-election in the fledgeling country on Sunday, was described as the "most dangerous" of the leading mafia figures who emerged from the former Kosovo Liberation Army a decade ago. The report says that the West was aware of Mr Thaci's crimes, yet backed his rise to power.

Members of his criminal organisation were said to be behind the trade in human organs when specially selected, mostly Serbian prisoners, were killed for their kidneys in a deal with an Albanian clinic, the report states.

Kosovo declared independence from Serbia nearly three years ago and the report looks set to cause a political crisis just as the country hoped to win international credibility by staging its first elections.
"As and when the transplant surgeons were confirmed to be in position and ready to operate, the captives were brought out of the 'safe house' individually, summarily executed by a KLA gunman, and their corpses transported swiftly to the operating clinic," said the report, due to be debated by the Council of Europe tomorrow.

"At least some of these captives became aware of the ultimate fate that awaited them. In the detention facilities where they were held in earshot of other trafficked persons, and in the course of being transported, some of these captives are said to have pleaded with their captors to be spared the fate of being 'chopped into pieces'."

The report, by Dick Marty, a Swiss senator, was painstakingly compiled over two years through numerous interviews with witnesses too terrified to testify against senior political and KLA figures, as well as secret service reports from various countries.
Posted by: tipper || 12/14/2010 19:14 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Don't tell my mom I work in the oilfield, she thinks I'm trafficking in kidneys."
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 12/14/2010 21:32 Comments || Top||


French Defence League is planning to fight back against occupation
Posted by: tipper || 12/14/2010 07:24 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This should prove entertaining. I suspect that the French will be less polite than the English EDL, when they are offended by pushy Musselmen.

They will perhaps hearken back to the days of Charles Martel, grandfather of Charlemagne, who kicked seven bells out of the Muslims at the battle of Tours.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 12/14/2010 9:59 Comments || Top||

#2  Charles was named "The Hammer" for the merciless way he hammered his enemies. Gibbon called him "the hero of the age" and declared "Christendom delivered [from the grasp of Islam] by the genius and good fortune of one man, Charles Martel."

I wonder if any of that is left in France.
Posted by: OldSpook || 12/14/2010 14:51 Comments || Top||

#3  ION PEOPLES DAILY FORUM > SWISS ARMY LOSES ITS BEARINGS. No need for various Arms Upgrades, Procurements due to ROUTINE LACK OF THREAT - the Swiss military will get their magic bullets once + after they identify to Swiss Pols an actual external threat to Switzerland [Stockholme Bombings notwitsanding].

ARTIC > also denotes complementary issues such as the grwoing competition between HISTORICAL MIL TRADITION [e.g. "Militia Army" organiz], versus DESIRED "INTERNATIONALIZATION/-ISM" OF THE SWISS ARMY.

* Also, WAFF > AUSTRIA TO CUT ITS ARMORED FLEET IN HALF [MBTS, AFV-CFV's], TELL US [Muslims] WHEN IS THE GOOD TIME TO INVADE.

ARTIC = Austrian Govt. Politicos, MilPerts no longer see the need for traditional AUSTRIAN "AUTONOMUS DEFENSE" PRECEPTS given the on-going changes occurring in the external Security Environment.

NETTERS > likely AUSTRIAN-GERMAN, OTHER?
"SECURITY/DEFENSE ANSCHLUSS" TO OCCUR, i.e. the merging of select Austro-German, Other? mil forces + national security requirements, resources-sharing e.g. FRANCO-GERMAN RR BRIGADES, AERO/EUROSPATIALE', + SIMILAR.

Lest we fergit, RUSSIA???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 12/14/2010 22:14 Comments || Top||


Pan-European Islamic organization condemns Stockholm bombings
Oh, the piety of it all! If they'd caught him before he exploded it'd have been Islamophobia and entrapment and the lawyers would have been crawling out of the woodwork hollering "have his carcass!"
(KUNA) -- The Federation of Islamic Organisations in Europe (FIOE) has expressed its "strong condemnation for the appalling bombing incidents" in the Swedish capital, Stockholm, on Saturday night.

The Brussels-based body in a statement Monday said it "strongly rejects the shameful attempts aimed at undermining stability and peace embodied in these violent developments."

"Whatever the identity of those involved in these attacks, terrorising and spilling the blood of innocents is condemned in the strongest of terms," it noted.
I notice they said that using passive voice. Wonder who it is that's actually doing the condemning in strongest terms. Wonder what those terms are?
The FIOE said the teachings of Islam forbid the taking of innocent lives and prohibit suicide in all its forms.

The Federation expressed its confidence in the ability of Swedish society, with its diverse constituents, to maintain its integrity and cohesion in this difficult time.

"It is worthy of all concerned to confront the situation by working together within the state of law, and not give the opportunity to anyone engaged in undermining social peace and threatening the security of all citizens," added the statement.

One person was killed , reportedly the bomber himself , and two persons injured in the suspected suicide and car booming in Stockholm on Saturday.

The FIOE is an umbrella organization for hundreds of Islamic bodies and unions in Europe.
Posted by: Fred || 12/14/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Global Jihad

#1  IIRC BOOMER SELF-VIDEO > professed that an "ISLAMIC/JIHADIST STATE NOW EXISTS IN EUROPE + IN SWEDEN".

Or words to that effect.

Once again, JEDI MASTER YODA - "BEGUN, THE EURO JIHAD, HAS"!


Looks like the famous SWEDISH OLYMPIC BIKINI TEAM BABE CALENDAR(S) WILL ONE DAY BE MORE AKIN/SIMILAR TO THE "AMISH BABE" CALENDARS, COVERED UP SAVE WID CAMELS-IN-THE-ALPS???

-----------

ION NOT-NECESSARILY-UNRELATED,

To wit,

* WAFF > DRONES [flight cameras] CATCH TALIBAN IN ACT OF HAVING SEX WID ANIMALS.

and

* IIRC SUDAN > seems MALE MODELS were charged wid wearing FEMALE MASCARA ON PUBLIC STAGE = MODEL SHOW. SAME, HOWEVER, WERE NOT CHARGED FOR MODELING FEMALE WEDDING DRESSES AT SAME EVENT???

Righteous EEEEEWWWWWWW, followed by righteous WTF!

Uh, uh, ooooookkkkaaaayyyy, wehell, it may explain some of "DOONESBURY'S" RECENT SKITS ALA THE "RED RASCAL" CHARACTER.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 12/14/2010 19:54 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
ISI attacker a ‘martyr’ on Pak Army website
The Pakistani Army, on Monday, made an unusual entry on its website, listing an ISI agent who died in a “suicide attack” operation in New Delhi as a “martyr”, a newspaper reported on Tuesday.

According to the entry that appeared on the website yesterday, ISI operative Zulfiqar Ahmed died in a New Delhi hospital on November 16, 2007.

The listing was made in the ‘Shuhada’s (Martyrs’) Corner’ of the Pakistani Army website. The names of Pakistan’s dead in the Kargil War are also listed in the same section.
Posted by: john frum || 12/14/2010 16:24 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Pak Army admits its bomber died in India

Dec. 14: A red-faced Pakistan Army has hurriedly removed from its website the records of an alleged suicide bomber of ISI who died in New Delhi in November 2007 of renal failure.

According to the website, www.pakistanarmy.gov.pk, the ISI operative on a “suicide attack operation” died in a New Delhi hospital on November 16, 2007.

The posting was in the Shuhada’s (martyrs) corner of the website, which has the list of Pakistan’s dead in the 1999 Kargil operation. It named the operative as Zulfiqar Ahmed, his army number as 1726016 and his rank as Naik.
Posted by: john frum || 12/14/2010 16:28 Comments || Top||

#2  John, welcome back!
Posted by: Steve White || 12/14/2010 17:36 Comments || Top||


Interview With Pakistani Villagers Who Want Christian Woman Hung For Blasphemy
Posted by: gromky || 12/14/2010 05:23 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This is why Pakistan is no real ally. Eventually we will have to kill most of those people - because they will not let us be until we do.
Posted by: OldSpook || 12/14/2010 14:42 Comments || Top||

#2  Whilst i have hope for the Iranian youth the Mullahs have too much power over the illerate people in Pakistan where anything non islamic is seen as evil!
Posted by: Paul D || 12/14/2010 14:54 Comments || Top||

#3  What surprises me most is that there are religious minorities in Pakistan. I'd hoof it into India the first chance I had.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 12/14/2010 16:05 Comments || Top||

#4  I'll say a prayer to my Christian God to accept the soul of this woman and comfort the hearts of her children.

I'll say another prayer that the name of this town is featured in the next news flash of killer earchquakes and floods and fire and famine. These animals can't suffer enough for their evil.
Posted by: Rob06 || 12/14/2010 16:21 Comments || Top||

#5  illerate people

Uh, Paul D? It's spelled "illiterate".

literacy:
the ability to read and write

Quite ironic, eh? Criticizing others for being illerate while being illerate yourself.
Posted by: gromky || 12/14/2010 16:23 Comments || Top||

#6  I'll say another prayer that the name of this town is featured in the next news flash of killer earchquakes and floods and fire and famine.

What the FUCK, Rob06? What kind of Christian does that? You're a Satanist in disguise. If you're not a Satanist, you certainly sound like one. How is a person like me supposed to tell the difference?

"But I say, do not resist an evil person! If someone slaps you on the right cheek, offer the other cheek also."
-- Matthew 5:39
Posted by: gromky || 12/14/2010 16:28 Comments || Top||

#7  "Are they all like that? No---some of them are worse." H/T Robert Frezza.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 12/14/2010 16:53 Comments || Top||

#8  "But I say, do not resist an evil person! If someone slaps you on the right cheek, offer the other cheek also."

So we should just send over some more women for them to hang for blasphemy?
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 12/14/2010 17:08 Comments || Top||

#9  Hey, it is almost Christmas. May I suggest having one of the little chocolate cordial shot glasses filled with eggnog, preferably Ghirardelli chocolate? Religious differences and interpretation can suddenly seem so unimportant.
Posted by: Fire and Ice || 12/14/2010 17:23 Comments || Top||

#10  Ezekiel 25:17 (King James Version)

And I will execute great vengeance upon them with furious rebukes; and they shall know that I am the LORD, when I shall lay my vengeance upon them.
Posted by: Fire and Ice || 12/14/2010 17:29 Comments || Top||

#11  Gromky,
"What kind of Christian does that? You're a Satanist in disguise. If you're not a Satanist, you certainly sound like one. How is a person like me supposed to tell the difference?"

The kind of christian that doesn't turn the other cheek to those who persecute christians. Furthermore, I don't care how a person like you does anything. Don't call me a satanist, you've no idea what a satanist is. Read Exodus Gromky, God punishes evil, really.
Posted by: Rob06 || 12/14/2010 17:48 Comments || Top||

#12  I feel so much better about NOT contributing to Pakistani flood relief now.
Posted by: Swamp Blondie || 12/14/2010 18:41 Comments || Top||

#13  But... but... but... It another culture! Just as valid as yours! You *must* respect it!

/Islamic-Apologist
Posted by: CrazyFool || 12/14/2010 18:56 Comments || Top||

#14  "But I say, do not resist an evil person! If someone slaps you on the right cheek, offer the other cheek also."

That may be what you say, but I say: "If a man slaps you on the right cheek, slap him on both cheeks. Smite him loin and thigh, that he will remember and REGRET."*

Especially clowns like these.

*(Channeling Anton Szandor Levey.)
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 12/14/2010 18:59 Comments || Top||

#15  The Black Pope does seem to have a point. Foreign Policy translation: rubble don't cause no trouble.
Posted by: Secret Master || 12/14/2010 20:15 Comments || Top||

#16  Jesus addressed "turn the other cheek" to individuals, not nations; and the point was to not seek revenge. The ONLY time he says anything about earthly government is when he says, "render unto Caesar that which is Caesar (what is due him as ruler) and render unto God what is God's (due)."

You do not pray for evil to befall anyone. You fight the evil and pray for the evildoers to repent.
Posted by: mom || 12/14/2010 20:21 Comments || Top||

#17  True. Kim Jong Il, his next of kin, and ranking inner sanctum, for example, just requires a tight shot group, not prayer. There can be prayer for forgiveness afterward.
Posted by: Fire and Ice || 12/14/2010 20:51 Comments || Top||

#18  Vengeance is mine says the Lord. Take your vengeance says I to the Lord.
Posted by: abu do you love || 12/14/2010 21:02 Comments || Top||

#19  At the risk of distracting from the Scripture Duel...

This [story] is disgusting. Personally I don't think she said any such thing (who would be so stupid???) I think the unholy man and her co-workers made the story up.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 12/14/2010 22:23 Comments || Top||


Pakistan Terrorism related to Afghanistan, India: Musharraf
[Tolo News] In his latest comments about terrorism, Pakistain's former president Pervez Perv Musharraf
... former dictator of Pakistain, who was less dictatorial and corrupt than any Pak civilian government to date ...
has said that terrorism in Pakistain is linked to India and Afghanistan

His new comments published by Wall Street Journal said in order to curtail terrorism, we must change the curriculum in religious schools.

He has urged Pashtuns to take part in the Kabul government in a proper way so that a stable Afghanistan could be ensured.

His comments sparked strong reaction of the Afghan Foreign Ministry.

The front man for foreign ministry, Ahmad Zaher Faqiri, said: "This is his personal comment and as far as relation between Afghanistan and Pakistain is concerned, we have good relation with Pakistain."

"Leaders of the two countries have underscored the need for a serious fight against terrorism sources, sanctuaries and its funding sources," Mr Faqiri said.

Terrorism is regional problem. Afghanistan and Pakistain are committed to strict fight against insurgency, foreign ministry said.

While acknowledging Afghan jihad victory due to Pakistain's efforts, Musharraf said he had advised the international community to accept the Taliban regime.

The comments are made as Pakistain has often been criticised for providing shelter to Taliban leaders.
Posted by: Fred || 12/14/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan

#1  Pakistan terrorism is ALL to do with Islamic ideology that anyone who is not Muslim is the enemy/can be killed!

Pak Army use this as foreign policy!
Posted by: Paul || 12/14/2010 10:04 Comments || Top||


Iraq
Mullen arrives in Iraq
BAGHDAD / Aswat al-Iraq: Adm. Mike Mullen, the top U.S. military official, arrived in Baghdad on Monday in a surprise visit to Iraq, according to AFP.

The U.S. officer will visit with American troops involved in the advise-and-assist effort in Iraq. Almost 50,000 U.S. service members are training the Iraqi military and police as part of Operation New Dawn. The Iraqi security forces are in the lead for security in the nation.
Posted by: Steve White || 12/14/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Conducting his own DADT survey no doubt.
Posted by: Besoeker || 12/14/2010 2:41 Comments || Top||

#2  lost all respect for this a$$hole.....
Posted by: armyguy || 12/14/2010 10:06 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
EU ready to recognize Palestinian state when appropriate
(KUNA) -- The European Union reiterated here Monday its readiness to recognize an independent Paleostinian state.

"The EU commends the work of the Paleostinian Authority in building the institutions of the future State of Paleostine and reiterates its full support for their endeavours in this regard and the (Paleostine Prime Minister Salam) Fayyad plan," said the EU Foreign Affairs Council after discussing the situation in Paleostine here this evening.

Recalling the Berlin Declaration, the Council "reiterates its readiness, when appropriate, to recognize a Paleostinian state," it said in a statement.

The EU's Berlin Declaration of 1999 included an explicit commitment to the creation of a Paleostinian state.

"We welcome the World Bank's assessment that if the Paleostinian Authority maintains its current performance in institution building and delivery of public services, it is well positioned for the establishment of a State at any point in the near future", said the foreign ministers of the 27-member bloc.

The EU believes, noted the statement, "that urgent progress is needed towards a two state solution to the Israeli-Paleostinian conflict." "We want to see the State of Israel and a sovereign, independent, democratic, contiguous and viable State of Paleostine living side by side in peace and security." "The legitimacy of the State of Israel and the right of Paleostinians to achieve statehood must never be called into question," it stressed.

The EU statement noted "with regret that Israel has not extended the moratorium as requested by the EU, the US and the Quartet.

"Our views on settlements, including in East Jerusalem, are clear: they are illegal under international law and an obstacle to peace. We reiterate our views on the status of Jerusalem and repeat our call for all parties to refrain from provocative unilateral actions and violence," it added.
Posted by: Fred || 12/14/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under: Palestinian Authority

#1  And when we see the herd of magical, winged unicorns on the horizon, we will know it is time.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 12/14/2010 10:12 Comments || Top||

#2  I think the State Department could learn a thing or two from this. No strings, no promises, just a statement that someday.

It reminds me of the Chinese who rarely submit themselves to treaties but will say that they intend to not do this or that. They get credit for the statements but if they actually go against their word there are few repercussions because its not as if they broke a treaty.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 12/14/2010 22:15 Comments || Top||


Science & Technology
Patterns of Terror
By analysing data from four decades of terrorism, Aaron Clauset believes he has found mathematical patterns that can help governments avert and prepare for major terror attacks. Does the U.S. government agree?
Posted by: Delphi || 12/14/2010 11:35 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  “Analysts painstakingly diagram insurgent networks and recommend individuals who should be killed or captured,” they wrote. While aerial drones scan the countryside 24/7 in the hope of spotting insurgents burying bombs, “relying on them exclusively baits intelligence shops into reacting to enemy tactics at the expense of finding ways to strike at the very heart of the insurgency.

Get the bad imams. Maybe kill them, maybe just arrest them and throw them in Gitmo. All the fence sitters will pick a side, and then you can go to work on the folks who are making everyone's life miserable until all those who live in fear learn to fear us more. Get them to rat out the rest of the bad guys. Kill those bad guys.

Then you can get to work and maybe build a decent society.

It will take three generations.
Posted by: gorb || 12/14/2010 15:11 Comments || Top||

#2  Las Vegas is full of people like that.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 12/14/2010 15:13 Comments || Top||

#3  Sounds like he's been reading Asimov's Foundation series.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 12/14/2010 22:39 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Wakim: U.S. Behind Decision to Kill Hariri
Is there nothing that's not our fault?
[An Nahar] Head of the People's Movement Najah Wakim on Monday accused the United States of being behind the 2005 assassination of former Prime Minister Rafik Hariri.

"The U.S. is behind the decision to assassinate former Premier Rafik Hariri," Wakim said in an interview with LBC satellite channel.

He stressed that the international tribunal was unconstitutional, adding that STL Prosecutor Daniel Bellemare has submitted the indictment "but the time was not yet ripe for an announcement."

Turning to Riyadh and Damascus, Wakim believed that the U.S. also "did not agree on a Syrian-Saudi consensus" over the Lebanon crisis.

"I think Americans want to destroy the Resistance in Lebanon," he told LBC.

Wakim said Lebanon is an open battleground for regional conflicts, and believed that the "Lebanon political crisis will drag on, but without security implications."
Posted by: Fred || 12/14/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under: Hezbollah

#1  Is there nothing that's not our fault?

Many things, including the horror of continental drift.

However, the loss of Eden is squarely at the foot of BusHitler and Rinos.
Posted by: Goldies Every Damn Where || 12/14/2010 0:12 Comments || Top||

#2  You mean it wasn't the Juice? Who'd a thunk it.
Posted by: Spot || 12/14/2010 8:20 Comments || Top||


Iranian President Fires Foreign Minister
[Asharq al-Aswat] President Mahmoud Short Round Ahmadinejad fired Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki on Monday and replaced him with his atomic chief, in an apparent falling out over policy as Iran holds talks with world powers over its nuclear programme.

The official IRNA news agency gave no reasons for the move, and reported that Ali Akbar Salehi, a vice-president and head of Iran's atomic energy organisation, would become caretaker foreign minister.

Mottaki, a career diplomat who was appointed foreign minister in August 2005, is currently in Senegal on an official visit.

Earlier this month, at a security meeting in neighbouring Bahrain, Mottaki hailed as a "step forward" remarks by US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton
... sometimes described as the Smartest Woman in the World and at other times as Mrs. Bill...
that Iran is entitled to a peaceful nuclear energy programme.

Clinton had told the BBC that Tehran could enrich uranium for civilian purposes in the future, but only once it has demonstrated it can do so in a responsible manner and in accordance with Iran's international obligations.

Mottaki's comments appeared to cut across the Islamic republic's official position, repeated almost daily, that its enrichment of uranium is non-negotiable.

"I thank you and appreciate the work and the services you have rendered during your tenure in the foreign ministry," Ahmadinejad was quoted as telling Mottaki in a directive carried by IRNA on Monday.

It reported that Ahmadinejad also issued a separate directive appointing Salehi as the "caretaker of the foreign ministry."

"Due to your commitment, knowledge and valued expertise... you are appointed as caretaker of the foreign ministry," the directive read.

Under Iranian law, the president has to submit his nominations for ministerial posts to parliament for approval.

Mottaki's sacking comes just days after Iran held crunch talks in Geneva on December 6 and 7 with world powers over its controversial nuclear dossier. Further talks are scheduled for next month in Iran's neighbour Turkey.

Berlin urged Tehran on Monday to continue negotiations with world powers over its disputed nuclear work, despite Mottaki's dismissal.

"We hope that the negotiations which just resumed in Geneva will continue," German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle said ahead of a regular meeting of European Union foreign ministers in Brussels.

Salehi, who was appointed atomic energy chief on July 17, 2009, has been a driving force behind Iran's atomic programme, and during his tenure, the country's first nuclear power plant has come on line.

Salehi, a PhD graduate of the prestigious MIT in the United States, in comments after his appointment as atomic chief said: "Legal and technical discussions about Iran's nuclear case have finished... and there is no room left to keep this case open."
Posted by: Fred || 12/14/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran

#1  ION ISRAEL FORUM > IRAN NUCLEAR CHIEF [A.Salehi] NAMED FOREIGN MINISTER TO PROP-UP N-BOMB DRIVE.

ARTIC = Appt. of SALEHI as FM strongly infers that IRAN IS DE FACTO INTENT OF DEV NUCLEAR WEAPONS, NOT JUST ENERGY, + will do so regardless of any rhetoric to the contrary to the US-WEST + UNIAEA.

* SAME > IRAN WEEKS AWAY FROM PRODUCING WEAPONS-GRADE URANIUM [perhaps as early as January 2011].

* DEFENSE NEWS > IRANIAN DEFECTOR [Diplomat] "SAW
NORTH KOREAN TECHNICANS" [Nuclear] IN IRAN, between 2002 thru 2007.

ARTIC > Personage has no doubts that NOKOR NUCTECHS were there to help Iran improve the range, quality of its LR SSBMS, + ensure Iran dev of RELIABLE NUCBOMBS, as IRAN'S TOP GOVT. HEIARCHY BELIEVES IRAN WILL NEED NLT TWO RELIABLE WORKING NUCBOMBS ASAP IN NT TO DETER US-ISRAELI = INTERNATIONAL MILSTRIKES + GUARANTEE THE CONTINUED SAFETY, EXISTENCE THE ISLAMIST REPUBLIC OF IRAN + ISLAMIC REVOLUTION.

* ISRAEL FORUM > TWO PAKISTANI NUKE BOMBS MADE AVAILABLE TO SAUDI ARABIA.

Yuh-oh.

* SAME > SARKOZY: NORTH KOREA TO HAND IRAN NUCLEAR BOMB PARTS.

* ISRAEL NN > HAMAS: [Violent]JIHAD WILL DESTROY ISRAEL. Israel = Zionists.

ARTIC = HAMAS proclaims it will NEVER EVAR!accept a "NAZI ISRAEL" [Fascist Israel].

HMMMMM, HMMMMMM, so does this mean the HAMAS' POLITBURO MAY ACCEPT A "COMMUNIST ISRAEL"???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 12/14/2010 22:38 Comments || Top||



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