Call it the liberal-libertarian ticket, where left meets right and Democrat Dennis Kucinich picks Republican Ron Paul to be his vice president.
Blair's Law postulates that there is "an ongoing process by which the world's multiple idiocies are becoming one giant, useless force." Here we see it in action:
-- Dennis Kucinich is a whacked-out far-"Left" pro-surrender fanatic who believes in UFOs and introcuced legislation to outlaw death rays in space and to create a Department of Peace.
-- Not surprisingly, Kucinich is anti-Israel (that is, pro-Palestinian), and at least on friendly terms with the openly anti-Semitic elements of the Left.
-- Ron Paul is a whacked-out far-"Right" pro-surrender fanatic who may or may not believe in UFOs--but he's a "gold bug" and that's almost as loopy.
-- Ron Paul is anti-Israel and on at least friendly terms with openly anti-Semitic elements of the so-called "Right" and other creepy people.
-- Indeed, if Paul would just declare himself "pro-choice" (which would be consistent with being a self-identified "libertarian") there would be no meaningful difference between him and Kucinich (except, maybe, that Mrs. Kucinich is hotter than Mrs. Paul.)
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Oh, if only they'd stand on principle and run a third-party ticket in the general election. Just think of the Hillary voters that would suck away! (Plus it would generate a list of the most useless members of society for use comes the revolution. Win-win!)
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Hey, watch your mouth. Mrs. Paul makes a great Fish Stick!!
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"I'm thinking about Ron Paul" as a running mate, Kucinich told a crowd of about 70 supporters at a house party here, one of numerous stops throughout New Hampshire over the Thanksgiving weekend. A Kucinich-Paul administration could bring people together "to balance the energies in this country," Kucinich said.
Dear God...
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The Gollum-Rumpelstiltskin Pact of 1939 2007. This can't end well.
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There are many Libertarians that are against abortion because science proves that live starts from conception.
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human life, maybe, but Kucinich and Paul? Ima think spores from an alien civilization on the solar wind
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You're on to something here, Frank G. Maybe aliens dabble in Earth politics the same way we play The Sims or Second Life. Certainly explains why we kept having Nixon to kick around.
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Having lived in Texas most of my life and watched Ron Paul's career continue, you have to appreciate what he really stands for. And that is basically going by the constitution, albeit word for word. I have to admit he appears to be a bit loony, but IMHO less so than the Kennedy's and the other far lefties. He is an obstetrician, so he will always be anti-abortion. There is a lot of common sense from this guy. And no I'm not a troll. I have been enjoying this blog since 9/11. And have attempted to make cogent comments.
(Xinhua) -- Norway has raised strong complaints against the decision by Afghan authorities to release the five Afghan bombers who attacked the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) in Northern Afghanistan in May this year. "It just gives a wrong signal that people who have been sentenced for such acts are allowed to walk free," Norwegian Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Stoere said in a statement.
Stoere added that an explanation is needed of how it is possible for someone who was first sentenced to death to have the sentence reversed to 20 years in jail, only to be released because of a religious festival. The five Afghan bombers were sentenced to 20 years in jail, but Afghan President Hamid Karzai signed a decree to release them after they spent just three months in prison, Norwegian broadcaster NRK reported. The bomb attack killed one Finnish and one Afghan soldier, and injured three Norwegian soldiers.
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Norwegian Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Stoere
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Norway is correct.
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Stoere added that an explanation is needed of how it is possible for someone who was first sentenced to death to have the sentence reversed to 20 years in jail, only to be released because of a religious festival.
They don't call it islam for nothing ("islam" is an arabic word meaning "I didn't do it"). Is it Norway or Sweden where convicted criminals are not legally required to turn up for their prison sentences? Arguably, Afghanistan has a tougher prison regimen.
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Yet one more demonstration of how dreadfully mistaken we were to permit any sort of Islamic government to be established in post-Taliban Afghanistan. Hamid Karzai is America's enemy and we are absolute fools to think otherwise.
KHARTOUM, Sudan (AP) - Sudan charged a British teacher Wednesday with inciting religious hatred after she allowed her students to name a teddy bear Muhammad, an offense that could subject her to 40 lashes, the Justice Ministry said.
The charge against Gillian Gibbons was sure to heighten tensions between Sudan and Britain. In London, Foreign Secretary David Miliband urgently summoned the Sudanese ambassador to discuss the case, the British government said.
Gibbons, 54, was arrested Sunday after some of her pupils' parents complained, accusing her of naming the bear after Islam's prophet. Muhammad is a common name among Muslim men, but giving the prophet's name to an animal would be seen as insulting by many Muslims.
Prosecutor General Salah Eddin Abu Zaid said Gibbons was charged under article 125 of the Sudanese legal code and her case would be referred to court Thursday.
If convicted, she faces up to 40 lashes, six months and prison and a fine, said Abdul Daem Zumrawi, the Justice Ministry's undersecretary.
"What will be applied is (at) the discretionary power of the judge to issue the verdict," he was quoted as saying by the official Sudanese News Agency.
The meeting between Miliband and the Sudanese ambassador to discuss the charge against Gibbons would take place as soon as possible, according to the British Foreign Office.
"We are surprised and disappointed by this development and the Foreign Secretary will summon as a matter of urgency the Sudanese ambassador to discuss the matter further," said Michael Ellam, a spokesman for British Prime Minister Gordon Brown's office.
Miliband would ask the "for the rationale behind the charges and a sense of what the next steps might be" amid an escalating diplomatic dispute in the case, he said.
"We will consider our response in the light of that," Ellam said.
In Khartoum, the British Embassy said diplomats had been allowed to visit Gibbons on Wednesday. "She said she was being well-treated and that she was OK," said embassy spokesman Omar Daair.
Gibbons was teaching her pupils, who are around age 7, about animals and asked one of them to bring in her teddy bear, said Robert Boulos, a spokesman for Unity High School in Khartoum. She asked the students to pick names for it and they proposed Abdullah, Hassan and Muhammad, and in September, the pupils voted to name it Muhammad, he said.
Each child was allowed to take the bear home on weekends and write a diary about what they did with it. The diary entries were collected in a book with the bear's picture on the cover, labeled, "My Name is Muhammad," he said. The bear itself was never labeled with the name, he added.
The Unity High School, a private English-language school with elementary to high school levels, was founded by Christian groups, but 90 percent of its students are Muslim, mostly from upper-class Sudanese families.
Several Sudanese newspapers ran a statement Tuesday reportedly from the school, saying the administration "offers an official apology to the students and their families and all Muslims for what came from an individual initiative." It said Gibbons had been "removed from her work at the school."
The Sudanese Foreign Ministry on Tuesday played down the significance of the case, calling it "isolated despite our condemnation and rejection of it."
Ministry spokesman Ali al-Sadeq said it was an incidence of a "teacher's misconduct against the Islamic faith" but noted the school's apology.
The statement from the school in newspapers called it a "misunderstanding." It underlined the school's "deep respect for the heavenly religions" and for the "beliefs of Muslims and their rituals."
Although Khartoum officials played down the case and said it was an isolated incident, Sudan's top clerics said in a statement Wednesday that the full measure of the law should be applied against Gibbons, calling the incident part of a broader Western "plot" against Islam.
Northern Sudan's legal system is based on Islam's Sharia law, which harshly punishes blasphemy. Any depiction of the prophet is forbidden in Islam, for fear it would provoke idolatry. Caricatures of Muhammad in some European media last year sparked riots in several Muslim countries.
The Sudanese clerics said this was blasphemy and believed it was intentional.
"What has happened was not haphazard or carried out of ignorance, but rather a calculated action and another ring in the circles of plotting against Islam," the Sudanese Assembly of the Ulemas said the statement.
"It is part of the campaign of the so-called war against terrorism and the intense media campaign against Islam," they said.
Although an earlier report had suggested that only one parent had complained, the clergy statement Wednesday said that several had complained.
There were widespread calls in Britain for Gibbons' release. The Muslim Council of Britain urged the Sudanese government to intervene.
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Just imagine how cool it would be if we were allowed to play by the same rules. Could you imagine how many muslims would be punished for inciting religious hatred against Christians and Jews? Whew!!!!
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calling the incident part of a broader Western "plot" against Islam
Cuz naming teddy bears is how we undermine threatening cultures.
"What has happened was not haphazard or carried out of ignorance, but rather a calculated action and another ring in the circles of plotting against Islam," the Sudanese Assembly of the Ulemas said the statement.
There can be no more clear indication that this Islamic body suffers almost tragically from Dangerous Quantities of Spare Time. I suggest we liven up their next assembly with a brief but dramatic visit by Mister Spooky.
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Reports out today (Drudge? I forget) seem to indicate that it was a student who suggested the name "I named after myself, she didn't do it"
Will have to wait and see if that carries any weight. Color me sceptical.
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I do understand some people's drive to help the underpriviliged, but I'm starting to wonder about westerners (especially older persons and women) who put themselves at risk for this sort of scenario by choosing to be teachers, aid workers, what have you in places like Sudan. If this is how the locals reward efforts to reach out, I ask, Why bother?
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How pathetic, Mohammads just another dull boring name, a very un-original one at that.
I'd wager it's because some Westerners are so consumed with guilt over how the Third World has been perpetually victimized by us Capitalist vultures that they just can't help themselves and must hurry off into the savage wilderness to uplift their poor little brown brothers.
I'm sure there's also a contingent of Christians out there doing the Lord's will as well but I think that's all going to change as Islam continues to prey upon unarmed Christians in Islamic lands.
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I say we need some Kurtz types to be sent in. "Annihilate the all!"
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The Unity High School, a private English-language school with elementary to high school levels, was founded by Christian groups, but 90 percent of its students are Muslim, mostly from upper-class Sudanese families.
Ms. Gibbons is simply the means to shut down the Unity High School, or at the very least, extort an even higher tax. If the sponsors of the Unity HS play ball, Gibbons will likely pay a fine and be expelled. If not ...
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I was wondering what would motivate a 50+ year old female teacher to travel to one of the world's depraved and brutal countries for a job. Is it so bad in the UK now that a teacher cannot find work suitable to her qualifications and ambitions? Or, is she a closet sympathizer or worse an idealist bent on copying the plot of The King and I? Remember that idiot that married Binny's son and that newspaper women who went over to the dark side in Afghanistan and is now a complete Dhimmi moron.
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There are many motivations, none particularly well thought out. Now, the link below is about ladies on holiday in Kenya, and has nothing to do with islamomurderwackiness, but an element of disregarded danger lurks nonetheless:
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PlanetDan made a point. Zenster has made the same point many times. Reciproscity. Lack thereof.
Imagine for a moment -if you can - the hate preached from the Koran, Hadith and Sira. Imagine further that the words Jew, Christian, polytheist, unbeliever, infidel...whatever... are taken out and you substitute the words muslim or islam. Imagine the world - from the time of Christ - if that world practiced the ideology of islam (has have muslims since the time of Moe). There would be no muslims and we would not be here at RB because there would not have been 9-11 and there would be no muslims. BUT FOR islam and muslims, how much conflict would you see in the world? Be honest. When you can honestly answer that question get back to me.
The Brit teacher in Sudan held on bogus charges of insulting the so called prophet...if Brown had any balls..which we know he doesn't...he would order her safe surrender to the nearest embassy. Yesterday. Short of that, Khartoum goes bye bye. I would not placate the muzzie sensiblity for a moment.
All of which goes a long way toward explaining why I am not a negotiator in Annopolis.
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Carruthers! Summon General Gordon. I have a mission for him.
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I think yall are wrong to question her motives. Who knows what effect she might have on one single person who could change things. She wanted to teach children. A noble endevour.
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I don't know British history well enough, but there must have been a time when the Brits would not have let one of their subjects be so brutalized and humiliated - at least, not without sending The Parachute Regiment, an SAS regiment, a carrier battle group, and assorted other forces to recover their subject.
But - I guess maybe that as before the era when a Royal Navy ship's boarding party could be seized, held, and humiliated without meaningful retribution.
Sovereignty should not necessarily mean immunity from consequences of barbarism.
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Sovereignty should not necessarily mean immunity from consequences of barbarism.
I'd take that a step further, Kemosabe, and say that retention of any sovereignty should issue directly from staunch opposition to barbarity. Those who are non-committal should look forward to having their own sovereigntyamongst other thingsdecidedly violated.
FORMER Guantanamo Bay detainee Mamdouh Habib says he was injected with drugs in front of an Australian official while being interrogated in Pakistan.
I don't recall really caring whatever happened to Mamdouh. I still don't.
Mr Habib was visibly distressed while giving evidence today at a second-stage defamation hearing in the NSW Supreme Court, weeping and at one point asking for a break as he spoke of his alleged torture. Justice David McClellan is hearing evidence on defences and damages in Mr Habib's defamation case against Nationwide News.
A jury earlier found that an opinion piece by columnist Piers Akerman defamed Mr Habib by implying he falsely made claims about torture. Mr Habib told the court today he had been beaten with sticks, kicked and suspended by his wrists from the ceiling for hours at a time, and had been given electric shocks that were so severe he fainted. He had been deprived of sleep and blankets and served food that was so bad "you can't even smell it".
Egyptian-born Mr Habib said he had been drugged during his imprisonment in Pakistan and Egypt, sometimes daily. "I feel like a crazy, I would say stuff like a mental person," he said. "I lost all my memory, I don't know where I am, I don't know who I am."
Mr Habib said he had been given a needle containing drugs before his second interview in Islamabad in October 2001. "Before and in the middle (of the interview)," he told the court.
A man who had introduced himself as Alastair Adams, an Australian official, had been present while this occurred, Mr Habib said. Other Australians, as well as Americans, were present at a number of other interrogations and interviews, he said.
Unless he has proof, that sounds defamatory. Perhaps someone should sue him.
Mr Habib said that in Egypt, he was shocked with Taser guns and a powered machine with voltage controls. His fingers were all broken and the nails torn away, he said.
Mr Habib was unable to go on, closing his eyes and turning away from the court when asked what his torturers did with dogs. "They tied up my hands behind my back and they put shackles on my feet, and I have to be naked," he said. "My face was on the floor because the dog (was) on the top of me, they do sexual things."
Mr Habib's lawyers argue that he was "shackled, drugged and tortured" during some of his interrogations, making their content inadmissible as evidence.
Nationwide News barrister Alec Leopold tendered documents in support of his case, including letters from Mr Habib to former Iraqi president Saddam Hussein and Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi. Copies of Mr Habib's passport and travel records were also tendered, along with transcripts of various interviews with Mr Habib conducted by ASIO and federal police officers.
The tendered material has not yet been released to the media, pending consent by federal intelligence agencies.
Mr Leopold said a number of officers, codenamed Officer 1, 2 and 3, would be called as witnesses on Friday, and he flagged the possible need for their evidence to be heard in closed court.
Justice McClellan said he was reluctant to do so. "Before I take the step of closing the court I would need to have a proper basis for doing so," the judge said.
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Who would have guessed ole Habib is a dog lover?
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These turdballs have a bad habit of exaggerating when they talk, which can be turned against them.
For example, a detailed medical exam will determine if some of what he has said is true. For example, he claims his fingers were broken. If so, an X-ray would determine if and when they were broken, within a range of time, and how they healed, with medical care or not.
Most likely either his fingers haven't been broken or they were broken long before he was in custody.
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All these horrible allegations of torture seem to have "occurred" in ME hellhole jails, but habib's stay at Guantanamo gets top billing in the story.
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"I feel like a crazy, I would say stuff like a mental person," he said. "I lost all my memory, I don't know where I am, I don't know who I am."
That would seem to me to invalidate everything else he might claim, but I'm funny like that.
French President Nicolas Sarkozy has vowed to bring to justice rioters who shot at police in Paris in urban unrest that followed the death of two Youths.
Mr Sarkozy, visiting policemen injured in the riots, said such shootings could not be tolerated. He also met families of the teenagers killed in a collision with a police car and pledged to hold a judicial inquiry. Mr Sarkozy then headed into crisis talks with key ministers to prevent the spread of three nights of rioting.
There was a decrease in violence on Tuesday night, but there were still arson attacks in some parts of Paris and in the southern city of Toulouse.
Mr Sarkozy touched down from a state visit to China on Wednesday morning and headed straight to a hospital in Eaubonne, northern Paris, to visit some of the 120 officers injured in the rioting. Afterwards he said: "Opening fire at officials is completely unacceptable... [this] has a name - attempted murder... Those who take it into their hands to shoot at officials will find themselves in court.
"It is not something that we can tolerate, no matter how dramatic the deaths of these two youngsters on a motorbike may be."
Mr Sarkozy later met the families of the two teenagers, both of North African descent, and said he was opening a judicial inquiry into the deaths. A lawyer for the families, Jean-Pierre Mignard, welcomed the move, saying it would allow relatives and their representatives "to participate actively in the search for the truth".
Mr Sarkozy then held emergency talks at the Elysee Palace with Prime Minister Francois Fillon, Interior Minister Michele Alliot-Marie and other senior members of the government.
Extra police were deployed to prevent further violence on Tuesday night. Violence was down, but dozens of cars and several buildings were still set on fire in the worst-hit suburb, Villiers-le-Bel, in the north of the capital.
Petrol bombs were also thrown in Les Mureaux, north-west of Paris, and a flaming chair was thrown through the window of a school in Vitry-sur-Seine, south of the capital.
In Toulouse, about 20 cars were torched. However, clashes with police were limited and only a few officers were hurt. Well, back to normal.
Mr Fillon said: "The situation is much calmer than the two previous nights but we can all feel that it remains fragile.
"The government will do all it can to ensure that order returns as soon as possible."
Relatives of the two teenagers have insisted that police rammed the motorcycle the boys were riding before leaving them to die on Sunday. The initial findings of an internal police probe, which found that police were not to blame, sparked anger in Villiers-le-Bel.
Police say the motorcycle was going at top speed and was not registered for street use, while the two boys - who have been named only as Moushin, 15, and Larami, 16 - were not wearing helmets and had been ignoring traffic rules.
Police unions have said the rioting is more intense than during weeks of clashes in the French suburbs in 2005, because firearms are now more frequently used. The 2005 unrest, also sparked by the deaths of two Youths, spread from a nearby suburb of Paris to other cities and continued for three weeks, during which more than 10,000 cars were set ablaze and 300 buildings firebombed. And 12 people killed, "de villepin"'s claims to the contrary, adn scores of cops wounded.
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This is what you get when you let too many many muslims into a country.Please note UK/USA!!!!
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The French police need two non-lethal weapons that would stop the rioting quickly by incapacitating and the capturing all the rioters.
The first is a spray called "super slick", which when sprayed on concrete or asphalt, makes it too slippery to walk across. Once applied, unless you are wearing special shoes, rioters can only cross it on their hands and knees.
Four teams of police can then seal off a riot area, then methodically arrest all rioters.
The other weapon is "sticky foam", that was used with success against rioters by the US Marines in Somalia. Once applied, it can only be removed with a solvent. This is the preferred weapon to use, sprayed from an armored vehicle, against an armed mob.
Using these two weapons, then arresting every rioter in an area, means that a riot can only happen once in an area, or, that as soon as the police arrive, rioters must run away or be trapped. In either case, the rioters lose.
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The other weapon is "sticky foam", that was used with success against rioters by the US Marines in Somalia.
I may be wrong, but wasn't the use discontinued after the international msm showed pics of somalis stuck to the ground, in the barbwired areas protecting the Un bases?
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It's time to bring the Old Guard Foreign Legion into Paris.
Politically it is big no-no to have teh Foreign Legion (ie foreigners even if half its numbers and all officers are French) to be used on French citizens. I am not sure it would be legal to do so.
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In this case I think we see quite an infusion of the anarchists that take advantage of situations around Europe and attempt to inflame things.
I believe they were converging on France during the transportation strike to take advantage of the short tempers that was bound to create and were waiting for something to break loose and they would be ready to take advantage of that and cause mayhem. But the strikes ended before they had a chance to get any good riots going. These people are basically social arsonists that use riots instead of fire to cause mayhem.
These are the same "critters" you see demonstrating at various political and economic conferences in Europe who cause great destruction of property. They were probably responsible for the sabotage on the French railways too. They are simply trying to get the people and/or the police to overreact. While SOME of the people from last year's riots may be participating, I have a hunch this is a whole different group driving this year's festivities. I believe these are European anarchists, not Muslims driving this.
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Nope, I'd say that's purely ethnic and resentment against France, that "colonial regime on its own soil" (to borrow the argumentation of some Youths-leftist militants, for whom they are the indigenous people, and France is the colonizer); anarchists and the like can "work" on the spot with the Youths, when demonstrations turn inot riots, but do you know what happen usually when the Youths come to students demonstrations, like th eones during the whole CPE debacle...? They BEAT up the anarcho-kiddies, the protocommies, the tender trotskysts, they come at ten, twenty against one, sweep them, kick them, grab their cellphone, and smash it while laughing, drag the girls by the hair while everyone spit on them,... that is so ironical.
Result, after the first anti-CPE demonstration that was turned into a general beatdown, the leftist online-forums were in full panic mode ("Ive seen deaths", "I've seen one guy losing an eye",...), conspiracy theories were running amok, if only because the cops didn't protect the anarcho-kiddies, and laugh at them and told them to back home to watch soap-operas when they came running to the riot cops for protection,... there was one green-mohawk parasite of the order service an anarchist org who was evacuated with brain damage (how could they tell?), while his pal told the reporters how they tried to protect the students, but were swamped by 50, 100 Youths. Funniest part, he was wearing a kieffyeh, lol.
All this to say, this isn't social, this isn't done by the black bloc wannabe hard boyz, this is ethnic, at least IMHO.
Btw, the two croaked Youths are to be put to earth. In morocco and senegal. That pretty shows which soil is considered their native soil, even if those two were born in France, and were "frecnh".
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Probably the biggest result of these riots is the change in our perception of Monsuier Sarkozy. He has tackled this issue much like the wimp duo of Villepin and Chirac. He certainly has not lived up to his reputation as a tough guy and one who has zero tolerance for this type of youthful anarchy.
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JFM - just because of that little misunderstanding between the Parisians and the Swiss Guards a while back? :)
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Call me islamophobic if you will, but if cops in MY town had been shot by rioting perps the order would have gone out to send the perps to their maker. Rightfully so. But hey, that's just me. The USA is at least 15 - 20 years behind our morally superior bretheren in Europe.
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Moose:The French police need two non-lethal weapons that would stop the rioting quickly by incapacitating and the capturing all the rioters.
Officials in Paris last night warned that rioters in the suburb of Villiers-le-Bel were armed with hunting rifles and air rifles as clashes with police continued to escalate. More than 70 police officers were injured on Monday night, three of them seriously, in clashes with rioters armed with molotov cocktails and firecrackers. One officer was shot in the shoulder with an air rifle.
"We're dealing with an urban guerrilla tactic, with the use of conventional arms and hunting rifles," said Bruno Beschizza, of the Synergie police union.
One rioter with a shotgun "was firing off two shots, reloading in a stairwell, coming back out - boom, boom - and firing again", Gilles Wiart, deputy head of the SGP-FO police union, told the Associated Press.
Police say the riots are more violent than those of late 2005, which also started in a Paris suburb after the death of two youths, both accidentally electrocuted while fleeing police. "It's different, there's much more violence," said Christophe, a 30-year-old police officer on duty at Villers-le-Bel and during the 2005 riots. "Back then, it was more of a revolt. This time, they're after us and they're armed."
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A few rounds from a SWAT sniper eliminates this kind of crap.
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For all their obsession with Islamic "purity" cleanliness, water cannons fed with raw sewage should break things up in a heartbeat. The sewage should also be treated with a powerful UV dye so participants can be identified after the festivities quiet down. Oh yeah, and those SWAT snipers, too.
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Those water cannons will be much more accurate with 50 cal spotting rifles attached. Water shortage, global warming, water conservation, being "green" etc, etc.
Former premier Nawaz Sharif said on Tuesday that President General Pervez Musharrafs removal from the army would make a lot of difference, but insisted the president do much more to end Pakistans political crisis, AP reported.
Nawaz said Musharraf must also lift the emergency and reinstate the ousted judges to ensure the elections are fair - a condition that the general is highly unlikely to meet. Separately, addressing a press conference at Lahore Press Club after visiting deposed Justices Khawaja Sharif, Khalilur Rehman Ramday and Supreme Court Bar President Aitzaz Ahsan, he alleged that some elements had plans to rig the polls to get a two-thirds majority to validate all of Musharrafs unconstitutional acts in the next parliament, according to a Daily Times report.
Nawaz said only boycotting the elections could foil this rigging plan, adding that an All Parties Democratic Movement (APDM) meeting on November 29 would decide about a boycott.
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Former premiers Benazir Bhutto and Nawaz Sharif have not spoken since the latter returned from exile, party aides said on Tuesday. The two leaders spoke by telephone two weeks ago when she was under house arrest but since then, contact has been minimal. Benazirs spokesman Farhatullah Babar said that while Bhutto was ready to meet Sharif, nothing was planned. If they meet they will discuss how to make the elections free and fair or whether they should boycott the vote, Babar said. Senior PML-N official Siddiqul Farooq said Nawaz has suggested that party leaders should form a strategy against possible rigging of elections if they go to polls.
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Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry, the deposed chief justice of Pakistan (CJP), on Tuesday urged all political parties to boycott the general elections, which are being held under the supervision of an unconstitutional government, a press release issued by the Lahore High Court Bar Association (LHCBA) stated on Tuesday. Talking to LHCBA Secretary Sarfaraz Cheema on telephone, Justice Chaudhry said there was no legitimacy in holding the elections, as the constitution was being held in abeyance and more than 60 judges of the superior and higher judiciary were under house arrest, the statement said.
Cheema quoted Justice Chaudhry as saying: Spies have been deputed outside my house and basic rights of judges are being violated. Law of the jungle has been promulgated in the country as nobody has basic rights. Lawyers raising voice for the rule of law and for the independence of judiciary are behind bars. Cheema said Justice Chaudhry had condemned sanctions on media and appreciated human rights activists for raising voice against the illegalities of the military rule.
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Following the publishing in the Urdu press of an article called Tragedy of Punjab University written by Jamaat-e-Islami (JI) chief Qazi Hussain Ahmed, a debate has started over the attitude of the Islami Jamiat Talaba (IJT) in Punjab University.
People are debating whether the article is a warning to the IJT by Qazi or a face saving attempt by him to improve his partys image. The IJT is JIs students wing.
The article, which was printed on Tuesday, discloses that the IJT had pre-planned the manhandling and detaining of Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf (PTI) chief Imran Khan in Punjab University on November 14.
The article reveals how Imran contacted JI bigwigs to appear on campus and discuss with students the emergency and call for the restoration of democracy. The article states that the JI and IJT disallowed Imran to go it alone, as the university is JI and IJT turf, and urged him to have a joint show with the IJT led by JI Punjab chief Liaqat Baloch.
The article reveals the emotional attachment Qazi has with the IJT and states that the IJTs violent attitude has become a source of disgrace for it, as it gives the media fodder to defame JIs student wing.
The article also states the complaints of several elements within the IJT about violence being perpetrated by the IJT on campus. Qazi urges the IJT not to be violent and not to force its strategy and ideology on campuses and advises it to apologise to Imran and to refrain from such acts in the future.
PU sources told Daily Times on Tuesday that the article had sparked widespread debate on and off campus over whether the IJT would follow Qazis advice or not.
Some circles believe that the article was a face saving attempt by Qazi, as it did not mention the action taken by the JI over the IJTs violations and hooliganism. They assumed that it looked as if some elements within the IJT were not in the control of JI bigwigs.
Others believe that Qazi truly meant what he wrote. They believe that the JI chief wants the IJT end its hooliganism and let students decide whether to join or not to join the IJT.
Punjab University Academic Staff Association ({PUASA) president Prof Mumtaz Ahmad Salik, who is also affiliated to the JI, said he would not comment on Qazis article, as it was a personal point of view.
I am not aware of the story behind the Imran Khan episode, he said, adding, However, we believe that students should stay in their limits and respect their elders.
He said there should also be respect for democratic standards. He said such a message promoted tolerance, accommodation and democratic norms on campus with equal opportunity for all students. He said students must focus on their studies and curricular activities.
Prof Dr Iftikhar Hussain Baloch, who has been confronting JI/IJT policies and ideology on campus, said a significant number of PU students and teachers believed that this could be a face saving attempt by the JI.
He said, It is believed that the IJT considers themselves the real force of the JI and if there is a problem, the JI should take action against its student wing. This, however, has not been seen.
He said people knew that JI bigwigs had been approaching the PU administration to restore expelled IJT students. If the JI really wants to improve its image, it should not take part in such activity, he added.
PU Registrar Prof Dr Muhammad Naeem Khan said the advice from the senior politician and leader was positive and must be taken accordingly. It gives the IJT a new policy to follow, he said. It is also clear that nobody on campus is above the law.
PU IJT nazim Attiqur Rehman, who replaced Muhammad Ayub after the Imran episode, said Qazi wrote the article as advice to the IJT. He denied the presence of violent elements in the IJT, saying, We live in the hearts of the students. There are bigger examples of violence by the state. The real issue here is lifting the ban on student unions to allow students to act freely and democratically. Till the ban is not lifted students will take part in violence.
He alleged that certain elements were trying to break the unity between PU teachers and students and the IJT with the aim to allow the regime to enforce anti-people policies like such as the Model University Ordinance.
However, the IJT would not allow anyone to break the student-teacher alliance, he added.
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November 24 2007: 0345 LT: Lagos anchorage, Nigeria. Four armed robbers in a small wooden boat boarded a container ship from aft. They stole ships store and escaped. No injuries to crew.
November 21 2007: 0212 LT: Lagos, Nigeria. Five pirates armed with knives boarded a tanker drifting around 15 nm from shore. Duty crew spotted the pirates and informed the duty officer. Alarm raised and crew mustered. Pirates escaped with ship stores.
And from the Better Late than Never Desk:
November 06 2007: Point Cruz, Solomon Islands. Armed pirates boarded a fishing vessel at anchor. They stole crew personal belongings, cash money and ships properties.
November 01 2007: 0830 LT: Corentyne coast, Guyana. Masked pirates armed with guns attacked a Guyanese fishing boat. The pirates stole the boats engines and equipment and then ordered the fishermen to board their craft and pilot their craft while they raided other boats. Later , the fishermen were taken to neighboring Suriname where they were left with the boat. The fishermen managed to return home after two days and report to the coast guard and police.
October 08 2007: Panaji, off the Yermal coast in Udupi: Karnataka: India. Pirates in canoes boarded a vessel carrying scientists on a marine research project. After a brief struggle with the scientists, the pirates took the scientific instruments. It is unclear if the instruments were thrown into the water or stolen. The scientists are reported to be safe.
October 03 2007: 0700 LT: Bonny channel, Nigeria. Pirates armed with guns and hiding in a mangrove swamp ambushed a passenger vessel during its passage to Bonny Town. It is suspected some of the pirates could have mingled among the passengers and boarded the vessel at the jetty at Port Harcourt. The pirates waited at the midway point and attacked the vessel when signaled. The pirates stole passenger valuables. Pirates fired a volley of shots into the air before escaping. Injured passengers received medical treatment ashore.
Haider Abbas, a 36-year-old taxi driver, had only a few moments to answer what is often a life-or-death question in this city: Would he drive a passenger home?
The home, on that scorching afternoon last month, happened to be in Adhamiyah, a notoriously dangerous neighborhood where several cabbies had been gunned down. Abbas hadn't been there in two years. But the fare pleaded that it had become safer, so the cabbie reluctantly agreed to go.
"To tell you the truth, I thought I had just traded my life for 5,000 dinars," or $4, said Abbas, who was shocked when he arrived in the traffic-jammed streets of Adhamiyah to see shops open and people strolling in the road. "Then I suddenly realized that security really is returning to Baghdad."
In a city where few residents believe official statements on declining violence, whether from the U.S. military or the Iraqi government, some of the most reliable figures on security improvements can be found on the odometers of Baghdad's taxi drivers.
After years of sectarian warfare whittled down the list of neighborhoods where they could safely work, cabbies are once again crisscrossing nearly all of Baghdad. Every day they assess the constantly shifting boundaries between danger and security, hoping that life will return to normal, but mindful that this is still a city where anyone could be killed at any moment for no particular reason. . . .
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Every day they assess the constantly shifting boundaries between danger and security, hoping that life will return to normal, but mindful that this is still a city where anyone could be killed at any moment for no particular reason
The Washington Post writer couldn't take two minutes to google 'cab driver shot' and click on news to see a long list of victims, none of which are in Baghdad to understand that his/her standards could apply anywhere. It's a quagmire out here. /sarcasm off
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There are a few things to look forward to in the evolution of Baghdad to a "typical" city. That is, from an unusual place to a normal place.
One such thing is that larger cities *always* have a "bad part of town". Now granted, "bad" is very relative. But it generally means that it is where the poorer people live, with somewhat more crime than elsewhere in the city. And, importantly, that is where people go to have naughty fun.
It is where you will find what passes for the red light district, where it is easier to buy alcohol and drugs, where young people seeking illicit pleasures tend to congregate and party, etc.
All very normal in a city, because such things are pushed out of the "better" neighborhoods. It also means that the better neighborhoods are in control enough to push out the mischief makers. This implies effective policing, which in turn implies more effective government.
And, if you ask the taxi drivers where to go to "have a good time", that district is what they will automatically say. Unless you look like "polite people", in which case they will recommend museums and "polite" entertainments.
TOKYO (AP) - Japan's upper house of parliament voted Wednesday to halt the air force's transport mission in Iraq, intensifying the opposition bloc's standoff with the government over Tokyo's role in peacekeeping missions abroad. The opposition-controlled upper house approved a bill in a vote of 133-103, but the legislation is expected to be voted down when it goes to the more powerful lower house.
The vote comes amid a political battle over Japan's mission in the Indian Ocean in support of U.S.-led troops fighting in Afghanistan. The mission was halted Nov. 1 when the opposition blocked it in parliament.
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A little diplomacy is in order. Appeal to the Japanese sense of greed. That is, suggest that now is the time to either build or refurbish the Japanese embassy in Iraq, with maybe an annex in the area the occupied in the South; with a much enlarged and expanded trade mission.
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A little diplomacy is in order. Appeal to the Japanese sense of greed. That is, suggest that now is the time to either build or refurbish the Japanese embassy in Iraq, with maybe an annex in the area the occupied in the South; with a much enlarged and expanded trade mission.
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Might also mention that Allied forces are getting extremely valuable counter-terrorism training for its military by being in Iraq - training that can't be gotten anywhere else. That training can't be bought, can't be found in a "peacetime" environment, and will come in extremely handy if things go south in Korea. Japan has this fixation on Korea, and that may just be the thing to tip things our way. Expanded trade will also help.
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WARSAW, Poland - Poland could pull its troops out of Iraq in summer next year, the nations new defence minister said in remarks published Tuesday. Prime Minister Donald Tusks government will seek the approval of President Lech Kaczynski, the army supreme commander, to send a final rotation of troops to Iraq in the first half of 2008, Defence Minister Bogdan Klich said in remarks published by the Rzeczpospolita daily newspaper.
However, it will be a closing mission which will prepare the final pullout of our troops, Klich was quoted as saying. I hope it will be possible in the summer of 2008. Klich said Poland must explain the reason for the pullout decision to its coalition partners, especially United States, in such a way as not to expose our relations with our allies to harm. Tusk made the withdrawal from Iraq an important element of the election campaign that swept him to power last month, but has not yet announced a timeline.
The president, who has to sign off on any government decision to bring troops home, has spoken out against withdrawing Polands troops from Iraq.
Poland has 900 troops that lead an international force of 2,000 soldiers in southeastern Iraq. The mission has the presidents authorization until Dec. 31 of this year.
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God Bless the Poles. They have fought at our side long and hard. But they cannot be expected to sustain it forever, their military and nation just doesnt have what it takes to do that, and work in Afghanistan at the same time.
Take a breather Poland, we may need you again soon.
(KUNA) -- Leading Shiite cleric in Iraq Ali Sistani Tuesday banned the killing of Iraqis, particularly the Sunnis, and urged the Shiites to protect their brother Sunnis. Sistani bans the Iraqi blood in general the blood of Sunnis in particular. His announcement came during a meeting with a delegation from Sunni clerics from southern and northern Iraq. The clerics are visiting Najaf to participate in the first national conference for Ulemaa of Shiites and Sunnis.
Sistani called on the Shiites to protect their Sunni brothers, according to Sheikh Khaled Al-Mulla, head of the authority of Ulemaa of Southern Iraq, noting that the Fatwa of Sistani would have positive impacts nationwide. "I am a servant of all Iraqis, there is no difference between a Sunni, a Shitte or a Kurd or a Christian," Al-Mulla quoted Sistani as saying during the meeting.
Sistani warned the Sunni clerics from the plans of the enemies to plant seeds of discord among the Iraqis. The visiting delegation voiced relief for the meeting and said they backed Sistani's stance.
This article starring:
Ali Sistani
Sheikh Khaled Al-Mulla
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This guy is important - and good to see him popping up after being out of the limelight for so long.
Yup. He is the only one outside Iran that has a legitimate shot at being the chief theologian for the global Shiite community. The Iranian Ayatollahs can't really do much to dis the Ayatollah of Najaf.
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The Shiite Clerics of Qom are the real heretics: Shiism has been a sect that practiced separation of church and state until Khomeini screwed things up.
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His timing reminds me of the Shecky Greene story about Frank Sinatra saving his life. Two guys were beating the shit out of me in front of the Sands Hotel and Frank came by and said, "That's enough".
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Sistani's influence outside of Iraq is, I think, pretty close to zero.
Inside Iraq he counts but so do the leaders of the Shiite political parties as well as the leaders of the Shiite extortion gangs, the Shiite Sharia enforcement gangs, etc.
Israel is "ready now for a deal," said an Israeli official attending Tuesday's U.S.-brokered Mideast summit aimed at laying the groundwork for future peace negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians.
Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas have "very good chemistry," the official said, adding that he is hopeful a document "will be finalized before we leave Washington Wednesday night."
Olmert and Abbas met Monday night to hammer out a statement that could guide peace negotiations but could not come to an agreement. The official said some of the 40 nations represented at the summit have offered Israel a chilly welcome, but their participation alone is encouraging. "The Saudis won't shake our hands; the Syrians won't say nice things about us," the Israeli official said. "But they're here."
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IRAN DAILY > Saudi Foreign Minister warns that Israel will have no peace vv Paleos unless it withdraws from lands captured back in 1967, and any since then. FM warns will NOT shake Olmert's hand at ANNAPOLIS.
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HAARETZ/WORLDNEWS > OLMERT TO TELL BUSH: ISRAEL WILL NOT ALLOW IRAN TO DEV NUCLEAR WEAPONS. OLmert quoted as saying that any IDF strike = mil response is not only feasible vv MILITARY MEANS, BUT ALSO COST/BUDGET-EFFECTIVE.
Hmmmm, gotta wonder iff Olmert is indir hinting that Israel has serious budget lapse(s). COLD WAR > USA-NATO did on occasion give or provide Israel massive financing.
I hope you are right and it is not umpteenth sequel to the one about disobeying God, worshiping idols, ignoring the warnings of prophets, Jerusalem is sacked and the Israelites are routed and enslaved.
I'm hoping it will be more of the David or Sampson genre.
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IMHO, this is about Iran. The conference is a front for back room deals to isolate and scheme against the biggest threat to peace in the ME.
By inviting Syria they have seperated the two allies and can put pressure on the weaker to shape up. The U.S. is not the power broker, rather the Arab League and SA hold the power over the mad mullahs and they know it.
(Xinhua) -- Islamic Hamas movement on Tuesday described the Palestinian statehood which U.S. President George W. Bush has called for creating as "vague and illusory." Speaking at the opening of Annapolis peace conference, Bush said it was time for a new Palestinian statehood. "Bush did not clarify the boundaries of the Palestinian statehood and did not set a timetable for its creation," Salah al-Bardaweel, a spokesman for Hamas lawmakers, told reporters in Gaza. "Bush did not speak about the statehood's form, nature and the refugees and he did not specify the capital either."
Hamas understands from Bush's speech that the Palestinian statehood will not be created since Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas and his men did not apply the security plans that aim at protecting Israel, according to al-Bardaweel. Annapolis conference was designated to trigger Israeli-Palestinian negotiations for final settlement. In his speech, Bush set Dec. 12 as the time to start the negotiation process.
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DRUDGEREPORT > BUSH: BATTLE UNDERWAY FOR FUTURE OF THE MIDDLE EAST; + TOPIX > PREVENTING WORLD WAR III: NUCLEAR PROLIFERATION IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
*ION, RUMORMILLNEWS > UNCONFIRMED - NEIL BUSH DEAD IN CHINA?
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The fact that the Arab League is there as well as Saudi Arabia, etc. shows that Hamas is currently on the sh**t list amongst the Arab ruling class.
I think you can trace it even farther back to some truly deep concerns about Iran. Tehran's proxies are just window dressing for the real issue of Iranian nukes. I'm confident that many of them realize how they cannot possibly build a nuclear arsenal, either in sufficient time nor without risking the same military intervention and economic ruin that Iran is headed straight towards.
Like it or not, I'll bet many of the less overtly hostile MME (Muslim Middle East) nations are beginning to consider the prospect of sheltering under America's nuclear umbrella in a much more favorable light. We need to make sure all of them submit to a round of very thorough and highly publicized ass-kissing with Unca Sam before they get to come in out of the rain.
(Xinhua) -- Israeli Prime Minister Edhud Olmert called on Tuesday for peace and settlement of hatred between Israel and Palestine in a Middle East peace conference at Annapolis, Maryland.
Olmert told the opening ceremony that Israel would enter continuous negotiations with the Palestinians in an effort to complete an agreement next year. "It will be bilateral, direct, ongoing and continuous, in an effort to complete it during the course of 2008," Olmert said. "I believe that we will be able to reach an agreement that will fulfill the vision of President (George W.) Bush: two states for two peoples."
He also reached out to Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas by "inviting you and your people to join us in this long and tremendous" peace process. "The time has come and we are ready."
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"It will be bilateral, direct, ongoing and continuous, in an effort to complete it during the course of 2008," Olmert said. "I believe that we will be able to reach an agreement that will fulfill the vision of President (George W.) Bush: two states for two peoples."
'Twas the night before Christmas, when all through the house
Not a Paleo was stirring, not even a mouse;
The Uzis & AKs were hung by the chimney with care,
In hopes that King Solomon soon would be there;
The Israeli children were nestled all snug in their beds,
While visions of sugar-plums danced in their heads;
And mama in her 'kerchief, and I in my cap,
Had just settled down for a long winter's nap,
When out on the lawn there arose such a clatter,
I sprang from the bed to see what was the matter.
Away to the window the Rockets flew like a flash,
They tore open the shutters and blew up the sash.
The moon on the breast of the new-fallen snow
Gave the lustre of mid-day to objects below,
When, what to my wondering eyes should appear,
But an illusionary Peace Deal pulled by eight tiny reindeer....
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(KUNA) -- Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas said on Tuesday that east Jerusalem is at the core of any peace deal with the Israelis.
In his speech in Annapolis, Abbas noted that east Jerusalem is "a critical component in any peace accord", affirming that peace is possible and that the Palestinian Authority is committed to its obligations under the road map "under the road map in order to combat chaos, violence, and terrorism".
The Palestinian President stated that Arab presence in Annapolis reflects Arab leaders' support "for our efforts to achieve peace".
Abbas highlighted the need to reach a two state solution in the context of a comprehensive peace that includes final status agreement in addition to the occupied Syrian and Lebanese territories. "Our region stands at a crossroad that separates two historical phases: pre-Annapolis phase and post-Annapolis phase", said Abbas, describing this conference as an "opportunity that might not be repeated".
"Here I must defend, in all sincerity and candor, and without wavering, the right of our people to see a new dawn without occupation, without settlements, without separation walls, without prisons where thousands of prisoners are detained, without assassinations, without siege, without barriers around villages", he added. "For your insistence on the unity of our people in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip as one geographical-political unit, without any divisions, your suffering will end", said Abbas to the Palestinian people of Gaza.
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Jerusalem could be the capitol of Israel, Palestine, and the federal capital of the United States of the Middle East, leaving it as a sacred site for Jews, Muslims, and Christians to visit and pray.
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We have already seen the upshot of any Muslim custodianship of Jerusalem. The Wailing Wall turned into a public urinal, the Nativity Church desecrated, the Temple Mount being systematically cleansed of any Jewish artifacts. I used to think that Jerusalem should be maintained by a multi-national force like post-WWII Berlin. Now, I believe that Israel will be the only competent manager of this real estate and, what's more, the Arab world desperately needs a thumb in the eye of having to watch the entirety of their ersatz holy site remain in Jewish hands.
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Personally, other than the old city, I don't think Israel has a good reason to want E. Jerusalem.
Yes it would cut off a few shrines but it would also allow Israel to rid itself of a hundred thousand welfare consuming arabs (some of whom are, in fact criminals who use their access to W. Jerusalem to commit petty crimes and then hide out).
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ima send well saifty hope frum jooo poysenz and gipsum gays an find all em jooo eggs of wmd that haz ben hide throo owt hiz cruntry. good lukn that. god willin.
wot does this mean..saifty? Jew Persians? and gipsum gays? and jooo eggs of wmd?
LOL, ima rusty dude! need more practice!!
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Oh, dear. If you write anything to him like you did to those poor, innocent spammers from Nigeria and similar places, muck4doo, it's going to take him years to untangle himself from it all. I mean, what's a gipsum gay?
The Syrian and Lebanese delegates to the Annapolis conference Tuesday were provided a forum in which to express their countries' views, but were not accorded the privilege of delivering a speech to the conference plenum.
Speaking at a workshop entitled "Towards a Comprehensive Middle East Peace," Syrian Deputy Foreign Affairs Minister Faisal al-Mekdad insisted that Israel must hand over the Golan Heights and totally withdraw from the "1967 Arab land." Only then, he declared, would Damascus consider "normalizing" ties with the Jewish State. He then said Syria "is sincere in seeking a comprehensive and just peace and possesses the political will to achieve it."
Israeli officials said the Syrian delegate also demanded that Israel withdraw from the Har Dov (Sheba'a Farms) area as well.
Seven years ago, the late Syrian President Hafez al-Assad, father of the current president, refused an Israeli offer to hand over most of the Golan. Under the proposal, Israel would retain sovereignty over the eastern shore of Lake Kinneret (the Sea of Galilee).
Now the Syrian government has decided to begin a new strategy it hopes will raise the issue to the level of international concern. Syrian government engineer Hilal al-Ghaeb was quoted by Reuters on Tuesday as saying Damascus now intends to populate its side of the Golan border with a housing project that would contain more than 1,000 apartments. Construction of the complex to house thousands of Arabs is designed to create "facts on the ground" and is reportedly already underway, with bulldozers clearing ground under the nose of Israeli tanks on the border.
"These projects are a message to Israel," said al-Ghaeb. "The refugees will no longer be scattered in slums and camps all around Syria. Soon they will live here and stare right at their Israeli occupiers." The reference is to the Arabs who fled the Golan village of Adnanieh in 1967 at the behest of the attacking Syrians and other Arab leaders, who promised they would quickly win the war and destroy the Jewish State. They have not returned since the 1967 Six Day War.
Israel should build some swank new housing developments and farms on their side of the line of demarcation in the Golan. Just to create 'facts on the ground'.
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Seven years ago, the late Syrian President Hafez al-Assad, father of the current president, refused an Israeli offer to hand over most of the Golan. Under the proposal, Israel would retain sovereignty over the eastern shore of Lake Kinneret (the Sea of Galilee).
Apparently Assad wasn't too bright because the game plan is take what you can and then break the treaty using proxies in an attempt to get the rest.
I believe by international law, with numberous precidents (ask the Romans, or Judeans), that by right of conquest the Golan is indeed Israels. And in this particular case it was a defense conquest so Syria can just bite me.
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Damascus now intends to populate its side of the Golan border with a housing project that would contain more than 1,000 apartments. Construction of the complex to house thousands of Arabs is designed to create "facts on the ground"..."The refugees will no longer be scattered in slums and camps all around Syria. Soon they will live here and stare right at their Israeli occupiers."
Great idea, just include the rest of the Palestinians from the West Bank so the Jewish State can "normalize" itself.
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He then said Syria "is sincere in seeking a comprehensive and just peace and possesses the political will to achieve it."
But do they have the political will to STFU about losing the war THEY STARTED against Israel and any land lost in that failed venture?
Damascus now intends to populate its side of the Golan border with a housing project that would contain more than 1,000 apartments. Construction of the complex to house thousands of Arabs is designed to create "facts on the ground" and is reportedly already underway, with bulldozers clearing ground under the nose of Israeli tanks on the border.
Does anyone else see this as a basic threat to create another missile-launching enclave of Palestinian proxies on Israel's border? Does anyone honestly think that a bunch of "refugees" will settle themselves quietly within spitting distance of some Jews?
Syria needs to be taken apart at the seams and become the final destination for all the Palestinians. Their constant meddling with Israel and with Lebanon has earned them this many times over.
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Thus far, the so-called SYRIAN-IRANIAN
"ALLIANCE" [Moud-Assad]overtly hasn't amounted to a hill of beans where benefit to SYRIA is concerned - Iff HAFEZ had wafflin' State partners like this, can surmise /specul that Hafez had unreliable support???
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** NOTE ** - For some reason the "e" in my user Name is missing. NOT JUST ON RB EITHER AS OTHER NETTERS ON OTHER SITES HAVE NOTICED PROBS. SKYNET/MATRIX???
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#10 ** NOTE ** - For some reason the "e" in my user Name is missing. NOT JUST ON RB EITHER AS OTHER NETTERS ON OTHER SITES HAVE NOTICED PROBS. SKYNET/MATRIX???
Joe it's the Fluoride Triumvirate
they need all the es they can beg borrow or steal for the upcomming Water Wars..
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Not quite, wx. Armageddon is actually Tel Meggido, a hill in northern israel that holds the ruins of 26 ancient cities, built on each other's ruins. It was the site of many historical battles.
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26 ancient cities, built on each other's ruins
TEHRAN, Iran (AP) - President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Wednesday the U.S.-hosted Mideast peace conference was a "failure" and that Israel is doomed to "collapse," lashing out at the Annapolis meeting that is widely seen as isolating Iran.
The comments were the first time in months that the hard-line Ahmadinejad has used such strong anti-Israeli rhetoric, highlighting Tehran's bitterness toward the conference, which its closest Arab ally Syria attended.
"It is impossible that the Zionist regime will survive. Collapse is in the nature of this regime because it has been created on aggression, lying, oppression and crime," Ahmadinejad said after a Cabinet meeting, according to state-run television.
"Soon, even the most politically doltish individuals will understand that this conference was a failure from the beginning," he said in comments reported by the official IRNA news agency.
Iran has repeatedly condemned the conference, saying it would fail to bring any peace for the Palestinians and warning that it will discredit Arab countries who participated. Iran on Tuesday expresses surprise that Damascus participated in the gathering, although it has stopped short of directly criticizing its ally.
Ahmadinejad said the Palestinian "resistance"such as Hamas, which is backed by Tehranmust have a say in any settlement.
"Many such meetings have been held but have failed," he said. "If decision is made about Palestine, representatives of the elected Palestinian government and resistance should be there and the rights of the Palestinian peopleself-determination, the right of voting and return of refugeesmust be recognized," he said.
Ahmadinejad has raised controversy in the West with past predictions of Israel's eventual destruction, including a comment saying it should be "wiped off" or "disappear" from the mapand even critics at home said his inflammatory speeches were needlessly provoking the West against Iran.
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Ahmadinejad a failure. His statement just reminds us of that.
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See also WND > MOUD quoted as saying "collapse" is in the nature/destiny of Israel; + TOPIX > BUSH: US WILL BACK ISRAEL AGAINST IRAN + IRAN SAYS IT HAS A SONAR-EVADING SUBMARINE.
*REALCLEARPOLITICS > MIDEAST OASIS OR MIRAGE + BUSH ON THE BATTLEFIELD.
BEIRUT, Lebanon (AP) - The largest bloc in Lebanon's deadlocked parliament dropped its opposition to the army chief becoming the next president, bringing Gen. Michel Suleiman one step closer to being the new head of state, a lawmaker said Wednesday.
Ammar Houry, legislator from the Future Movement of Saad Hariri, said the bloc had reversed its previous stand against amending the constitution to elect a sitting army commander, opening a way to a resolution of Lebanon's year long political crisis.
"We declare our acceptance to amend the constitution in order to reach consensus on the name of the army commander, Gen. Michel Suleiman," he said.
Hariri is effectively the leader of Lebanon's parliamentary majority and his support is tantamount to the majority's acceptance.
Despite earlier announcements by government officials that next years budget would be anti-inflationary and that development credit allocations would not go beyond last years figures, in his most recent trip to the Ardebil President Ahmadinejad again repeated the same promise that he had made on his trip to the province of South Khorasan last week. Ahmadinejad promised to double that provinces development budget in the upcoming year. He repeated the same promise on his visit to Ardebil.
Several government officials, including Ahmadinejads executive deputy, have blamed the lack of funds for the Presidents failure to implement many of the promises that he has made during his provincial visits, a record for any president in Irans history. It is unclear how the President intends to cut the budget if he intends to double spending in certain provinces and not cut spending in any other.
Last month, Irans Central Bank issued several official statements warning about the negative impact of expansionary monetary policies on inflation. In the short period of time since the inauguration of the banks new governor, the bank has issued at least four statements warning about inflation and its consequences. According to figures released by the central bank, the amount of money pumped into circulation in the past two years equals the total amount of money in circulation previous to that increase. In other words, more money has been added to the economy in the past two years than all the previous years combined or, as one economist puts it humorously, since the Achamenian Empire, over 2,000 years ago.
According to prominent economist Saeed Leilaz, under the current circumstances, the government has no option other than to suppress internal dissent and escalate foreign tensions, because, If everything is calm, then they have to explain to the public why they have failed to raise living conditions after spending all this money, and making all these visits to provinces.
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As soon as Lebanon's former president Emile Lahoud stepped down and left the presidential palace the International Lebanese Committee (ILC) for UN Resolution 1559 issued the following press release urging the investigation of the crimes committed during Lahoud's term in office
The International Lebanese Committee ( ILC) for UN Resolution 1559 expresses its satisfaction that former President Emile Lahoud has finally left the Presidential Palace in Baabda after more than three years from his illegal extension of power, a breach of laws and principles which was addressed by one stipulation of the UN 1559 issued in September 2004, one day after the constitutional piracy was forced on the Lebanese People. However now that Mr. Lahoud has left the office, the Committee is calling on the UN special prosecutor in the Terrorist attacks in Lebanon since the fall of 2004 and the special envoy of the Secretary General of the UN to investigate General Lahoud regarding the following serious charges:
1. The Hariri and Lebanese politicians assassinations:
General Lahoud was an imposed President of Lebanon between October 2004 and November 2007. Under his Presidential mandate six political leaders, including legislators and a minister were savagely assassinated and two political activists murdered for political reasons. Under his Presidency the joint operations room between his regime, the Syrian regime and Hezbollah was still in function. General Lahoud was the higher supervisor of this joint operation room and thus is aware of the cooperation between the two regimes and Hezbollah in Lebanon during this period of time. A UN investigation with General Lahoud is now warranted in the Terror assassinations of Prime Minister Rafiq Hariri, MP Basem Fleihan and their escort, Samir Qassir, George Hawi, MP Gebran Tueni, Minister and MP Pierre Gemayel, MP Walid Eido and MP Antoine Ghanem. General Lahoud as the highest security official overseeing the joint intelligence operation room along with the Syrian regime and Hezbollah must be investigated at once by the UN investigation committee.
2. The assassination of Lebanese activists:
General Lahoud, being the head of the regime between 1998 ad 2007 and the highest authority overseeing the intelligence joint operation room with Syria and Hezbollah, should also be investigated in the assassination of Lebanese political activists who were kidnapped, tortured and killed between 1998 and 2007.
3. The Lebanese detainee in Syria:
General Lahoud, being the head of the regime between 1998 ad 2007 and the highest authority overseeing the intelligence joint operation room with Syria and Hezbollah, should also be investigated in the illegal arrest, kidnapping and transfer to Syrian jails of hundreds of Lebanese and non Lebanese national where they were tortured and some have been killed while others are still unaccounted for.
4. The Lebanese military and civilians murdered in 1990
General Lahoud, having deserted the legal Lebanese Army in 1990 and appointed by a Syrian-backed Government as a new commander of a Syrian controlled Lebanese Army that same year took responsibility for a joint Syrian-Lebanese military operation against the Ministry of Defense and the Presidential Palace in Lebanon between 7 AM and 5 PM on October 13, 1990. During that operation hundreds of Lebanese soldiers and civilians were executed against all norms of international law and a number of military personnel and civilians were detained and transferred to Syria. General Lahoud should be investigated for information he may have kept about these executions and the fate of the vanished persons.
The Committee 1559 also calls on the parents and relatives of all the victims mentioned above to inform the UN Investigation Commission about all questions related to these crimes and acts of terror, so that the investigation with General Lahoud can be comprehensive.
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Antoine Ghanem
Basem Fleihan
Emile Lahoud
Gebran Tueni
George Hawi
Pierre Gemayel
Rafiq Hariri
Samir Qassir
Walid Eido
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U.S. President George Bush on Tuesday used a Middle East peace conference to warn Syria against interfering in Lebanon's effort to elect a new president.
Toward the end of his remarks, Bush turned his attention to Lebanon, which has been divided by pro- and anti-Syrian factions. Bush urged the Arab world to let democracy prevail. "The Lebanese people are (in the) process of electing a president. That decision is for the Lebanese people to make, and they must be able to do so free from outside interference and intimidation," Bush urged. "As they embark on this process, the people of Lebanon can know that the American people stand with them and we look forward to the day when the people of Lebanon can enjoy the blessings of liberty without fear of violence or coercion."
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(Xinhua) -- Norway has raised strong complaints against the decision by Afghan authorities to release the five Afghan bombers who attacked the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) in Northern Afghanistan in May this year. "It just gives a wrong signal that people who have been sentenced for such acts are allowed to walk free," 
French President Nicolas Sarkozy has vowed to bring to justice rioters who shot at police in Paris in urban unrest that followed the death of two Youths. 
Officials in Paris last night warned that rioters in the suburb of Villiers-le-Bel were armed with hunting rifles and air rifles as clashes with police continued to escalate. More than 70 police officers were injured on Monday night, three of them seriously, in clashes with rioters armed with molotov cocktails and firecrackers. One officer was shot in the shoulder with an air rifle.
Former premier Nawaz Sharif said on Tuesday that President General Pervez Musharrafs removal from the army would make a lot of difference, but insisted the president do much more to end Pakistans political crisis, AP reported.
Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry, the deposed chief justice of Pakistan (CJP), on Tuesday urged all political parties to boycott the general elections, which are being held under the supervision of an unconstitutional government, a press release issued by the Lahore High Court Bar Association (LHCBA) stated on Tuesday. Talking to LHCBA Secretary Sarfaraz Cheema on telephone, Justice Chaudhry said there was no legitimacy in holding the elections, as the constitution was being held in abeyance and more than 60 judges of the superior and higher judiciary were under house arrest, the statement said. 
Following the publishing in the Urdu press of an article called Tragedy of Punjab University written by Jamaat-e-Islami (JI) chief Qazi Hussain Ahmed, a debate has started over the attitude of the Islami Jamiat Talaba (IJT) in Punjab University.
November 24 2007: 0345 LT: Lagos anchorage, Nigeria. Four armed robbers in a small wooden boat boarded a container ship from aft. They stole ships store and escaped. No injuries to crew.
(KUNA) -- Leading Shiite cleric in Iraq 
(Xinhua) -- Islamic Hamas movement on Tuesday described the Palestinian statehood which U.S. President George W. Bush has called for creating as "vague and illusory." Speaking at the opening of Annapolis peace conference, Bush said it was time for a new Palestinian statehood. "Bush did not clarify the boundaries of the Palestinian statehood and did not set a timetable for its creation," 
(Xinhua) -- Israeli Prime Minister Edhud Olmert called on Tuesday for peace and settlement of hatred between Israel and Palestine in a Middle East peace conference at Annapolis, Maryland. 
(KUNA) -- Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas said on Tuesday that east Jerusalem is at the core of any peace deal with the Israelis.
TEHRAN, Iran (AP) - President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Wednesday the U.S.-hosted Mideast peace conference was a "failure" and that Israel is doomed to "collapse," lashing out at the Annapolis meeting that is widely seen as isolating Iran. 
Despite earlier announcements by government officials that next years budget would be anti-inflationary and that development credit allocations would not go beyond last years figures, in his most recent trip to the Ardebil President Ahmadinejad again repeated the same promise that he had made on his trip to the province of South Khorasan last week. Ahmadinejad promised to double that provinces development budget in the upcoming year. He repeated the same promise on his visit to Ardebil.
As soon as Lebanon's former president 
U.S. President George Bush on Tuesday used a Middle East peace conference to warn Syria against interfering in Lebanon's effort to elect a new president.
