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US and Iraqi forces kill 250 militants in Najaf
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Africa Horn
Somalia: Gummint details identities of foreign Islamist prisoners
(SomaliNet) The interim government spokesman, Abdirahman Dinari Sunday revealed the identities of the Islamist prisoners whom the Kenyan government recently extradited to Somalia. This is the first phase of the investigation against the suspects held in the capital.

Dinari told the local media today that what he called "the deported terrorists" were mostly foreign fighters who were caught at the Kenya-Somalia border during the hunt down operations in southern Somalia.
Now take a good guess as to where they're from ...
“They were born of many different countries like Yemen, Jordan, Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Sweden, Syria, Comoros, Tanzania, Kenya Ethiopia, Morocco and Somalia,” Dinari said.
All the riff-raff from over-populated countries with no prospects, corrupt governments, and pious holy men. Except for Sweden, which isn't over-populated.
“Among them were the wives and the children of the most wanted terrorists including Fazul Mohamed Ali, Osman Yasin, Swedish national and Ahmed, Morocco national,”
Yup, a Swedish national not named 'Sven' fighting in Somalia, whoda thunkit?
Mr. Dinari said the security officers handling the case of these terrorists have issued a full report detailing on their identities. All the suspects are being investigated and anyone who is found guilty will be brought before justice, the report said.
Will that be Islamic justice or justice that we'd even recognize in the West?
Dinari declined to comment on where the Islamist elements are being held saying ‘they are in secret detention somewhere in Mogadishu’.
And unlike our liberals, the gummint leaders aren't wringing their hands over it.
Posted by: Steve White || 01/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  But Sweden is overpopulated, by Islamists. (One is too many).
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 01/29/2007 2:12 Comments || Top||

#2  Indulging terrorists is like feeding termites.
Posted by: Sneaze Shaiting3550 || 01/29/2007 2:25 Comments || Top||

#3  They're smart. We should've been doing this from the beginning in Iraq.
Posted by: tu3031 || 01/29/2007 9:05 Comments || Top||

#4  "All the riff-raff from over-populated countries with no prospects, corrupt governments,.."
Where are the Zimbobeans (Zimbobwhites?)
Their country fits that description......
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 01/29/2007 15:22 Comments || Top||

#5  Sweden, not so much overpopulated as infested.
Posted by: ed || 01/29/2007 16:28 Comments || Top||


Somalia: Allied forces begin disarming Kismayo
(SomaliNet) The interim government troops together with Ethiopian forces Sunday have launched house to house search operation for weapons in parts of the southern port city of Kismayu 500 km (310 miles) south of the Somalia capital Mogadishu.

In the search operation for arms in Kismayu, soldiers went into houses where they reportedly confiscated more guns and rocket propels grenades. Residents of the neighborhoods searched reported that at least four people were taken away from their houses towards Kismayu airport, about 12 km south of the main town. It is not yet clear why those people were taken away, but residents said they were seized when a large cache of weapons was found at the houses they lived in.
So I think we can make an educated guess as to why they were taken away ...
The house-to-house search for arms in Kismayu came as an Ethiopian soldier was shot dead and another one was wounded in the biggest market of Kismayu in southren Somalia on 25 January after men armed with pistols ambushed the two Ethiopian soldiers reportedly shopping at the market. The gunmen snatched the soldiers’ AK 47 rifles and disappeared without trace.
Yup, one guess and one guess only ...
Posted by: Steve White || 01/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:


Britain
13% of Young UK Muslims Admire al-Qaeda
A growing minority of young Muslims are inspired by political Islam and feel they have less in common with non-Muslims than their parents do, a survey reveals today.
Multi-culturalism is a solvent on loyalty. No self-preserving state would ever allow the generation of a hostile minority. So why the hell are we doing it?
The poll found support for Sharia law, Islamic schools and wearing the veil in public is stronger among young Muslims than their parents. While the majority of Muslims feel they have as much, if not more, in common with non-Muslims in Britain than with Muslims abroad, the figure dropped from 71% of over-55s to 62% among 16 to 24-year-olds, the survey of more than 1000 Muslims in the UK over the phone and internet for independent think-tank Policy Exchange found.

The percentage who said they would prefer to send their children to Islamic state schools increased from 19% for over 55-year-olds to 37% of those aged 16 to 24. The number who said they would prefer to live under Sharia law than British law increased from 17% of over-55s to 37% of 16 to 24-year-olds.

One of Scotland's leading Muslims said he was not surprised by the survey results. Bashir Maan, Scottish spokesman for the Muslim Council of Great Britain, said: "The selfish and hypocritical policies practised by George W Bush and Tony Blair in Afghanistan, Iraq and the Middle East, and controversies such as Jack Straw's attitude to Muslim women wearing veils and raids on the homes of Muslims, particularly in England, has led to the radicalisation of some members of the Muslim community.

The emergence of a strong Muslim identity in Britain is, in part, a result of multicultural policies implemented since the 1980s which have emphasised difference at the expense of
shared national identity.
Let them develop their Muslim identity back where they came from.
"It is worrying that such policies are giving fuel to those who would promote radicalism. We don't want any young people to be radicalised. We want them to grow up as good Muslims and good citizens of the society they are living in."

Munira Mirza, the lead author of the report, said the results suggested government policy was to blame for sharpening divisions between Muslims and non-Muslims. She said: "The emergence of a strong Muslim identity in Britain is, in part, a result of multicultural policies implemented since the 1980s which have emphasised difference at the expense of shared national identity and divided people along ethnic, religious and cultural lines."
Oh, so it wasn't Afghanistan and Iraq after all!
According to the poll, 74% of 16 to 24-year-olds prefer Muslim women to choose to wear the hijab compared with only 28% of over 55s. While 7% of all those surveyed "admire organisations like al Qaeda that are prepared to fight the West", the figure increased from 3% of over 55s to 13% among 16 to 24-year-olds.

Ms Mirza said: "There is clearly a conflict within British Islam between a majority that accepts the norms of Western democracy and a growing minority that does not." She continued: "Religiosity among younger Muslims is not about following their parents' cultural traditions, but rather, their interest in religion is more politicised.

"Islamist groups have gained influence at local and national level by playing the politics of identity and demanding for Muslims the right to be different'."

The report also found that authorities and some Muslim groups had exaggerated the problem of Islamophobia, which had fuelled a sense of victimhood among Muslims...
Posted by: Ebbolurt Whereger2708 || 01/29/2007 01:15 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The report also found that authorities and some Muslim groups had exaggerated the problem of Islamophobia, which had fuelled a sense of victimhood among Muslims...

Well...be still my beating heart.
Posted by: tu3031 || 01/29/2007 12:25 Comments || Top||

#2  The problem is you have foreign imans spouting anti west shit which the elders have heard all their life agree but dont act and you have the younsters who have no ambitions to work but live for jihad to fufil their empty lives!!!!

Because they are born in the UK but are hated by the rest of society they are impressed by Jihad and dont think they will ever be deported!!!
Posted by: Crinens Claviting2862 || 01/29/2007 12:33 Comments || Top||

#3  and dont think they will ever be deported!!!

IMHO, they also (and mostly???) think they are on the winning side, because their Master Religion sez so, and because they see us westerners as decadent, weak, sterile, old, complacent, unable to respond to their increasing pressure, apologetic and always caving, beating our collective chest,...

Basically, they see us as doomed (and we may be, thanks to the ongoing assault on western civilization by the assorted Forces of Progress, eager to destroy it to bring their colective utopia). Time is on their side, isn't it?
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 01/29/2007 12:40 Comments || Top||

#4  China might have something to say about that. And India.
Posted by: anonymous2u || 01/29/2007 12:47 Comments || Top||

#5  A growing minority of young Muslims are inspired by political Islam and feel they have less in common with non-Muslims than their parents do

A growing minority of young Muslims have parents who didn't beat them enough.
Posted by: trailing wife || 01/29/2007 12:59 Comments || Top||

#6  They are not UK Muslims, they are muslims. We have the Trial of the Century going on here about the shit they tried just after the Underground bombings, it seems like the UK thinks they just misunderstood, on account of the fact they got the explosive mix wrong, lots of frigging laughs.

Deport the whole fokking tribe in their burkha.

Right to be different: swim to France.

Posted by: rhodesiafever || 01/29/2007 16:14 Comments || Top||

#7  We want them to grow up as good Muslims and good citizens of the society they are living in."

Is that even possible? It appears that Islam requires them to make a choice, and that only one choice is acceptable. It may be time to flush the trash out of Britain.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 01/29/2007 17:33 Comments || Top||

#8  In unrelated news, 87% of young UK Muslims practice Taqiyya.
Posted by: DMFD || 01/29/2007 18:11 Comments || Top||


Europe
Berlin: Hundreds call for solidarity with Israel
Several hundred demonstrators marched to Berlin's Holocaust memorial Sunday to call for solidarity with Israel against threats from Iran's hardline president.

Some 700 people took part in driving rain, according to a police estimate, some carrying Israeli flags and placards demanding that the international community "defend Israel."

A group of Jewish and other organizations had organized the event to protest against Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who has described the Holocaust as a "myth" and called for Israel to be wiped off the map.
Posted by: Fred || 01/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Crowd for Hire !
Posted by: MacNails || 01/29/2007 6:34 Comments || Top||

#2  I doubt it, MacNails. That's a particularly unpopular stance in those parts.
Posted by: trailing wife || 01/29/2007 6:59 Comments || Top||

#3  Yeh , kinda figured that .. alas :(
Posted by: MacNails || 01/29/2007 8:34 Comments || Top||

#4  I had to read the lede twice. I was expecting to read "solidarity" with Iran or some such orcish pest-hole. It has become shocking to me that anyone would demonstrate in favor of a liberal democracy.
Posted by: Excalibur || 01/29/2007 9:25 Comments || Top||

#5  German guilt drives just about everything here. Or I should say, conspicuous public displays of guilt. Honestly, 700 isn't all that impressive as Berlin demonstrations go. But good for them.
Posted by: exJAG || 01/29/2007 10:53 Comments || Top||

#6  Agreed, exJAG. There may well have been a large sprinkling of Israelis taking part as well. For some reason I kept running into Israelis who'd settled in Germany; one of my doctors in Frankfurt for instance. And, they don't have the retiring turn of mind of so many of the European Jews.
Posted by: trailing wife || 01/29/2007 12:09 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Zaki, Muslim advisor in Gitmo
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 01/29/2007 03:41 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I read about this guy someplace back in December. As I remember, the job pays about 250,000 a year.
Posted by: tu3031 || 01/29/2007 11:28 Comments || Top||

#2  I wouldn't do it for less than a million, plus extra for being assaulted by body fluids.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 01/29/2007 20:01 Comments || Top||


Hillary attacks Bush’s ‘irresponsibility’ on Iraq
DAVENPORT, Iowa - Democratic presidential contender Hillary Rodham Clinton said in Iowa on Sunday President George W. Bush should find a way out of Iraq before he leaves office and called it “the height of irresponsibility” to leave the problem to the next administration.
I really, really dislike this woman, and she's not fit to lead our nation.
“The president has said this is going to be left to his successor,” the New York senator said during a jammed rally in a fairground exhibit hall in Davenport as she concluded a two-day campaign swing in the state that kicks off the 2008 presidential campaign.

“I think it’s the height of irresponsibility and I really resent it,” she said. “This was his decision to go to war, he went with an ill-conceived plan, an incompetently executed strategy and we should expect him to extricate our country from this before he leaves office.”
We have a few suggestions here at the Burg, but you're not gonna like any of 'em ...
A White House spokesman, Rob Saliterman, said it was disappointing that Clinton was responding to Bush’s new plan with “a partisan attack that sends the wrong message to our troops and the Iraqi people.”
Posted by: Steve White || 01/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting
Posted by: Anonymoose || 01/29/2007 0:18 Comments || Top||

#2  “I think it’s the height of irresponsibility and I really resent it,” she said.

Sounds like she's considered herself president already.
Posted by: Pappy || 01/29/2007 1:02 Comments || Top||

#3  Hillary is speaking from her own height of irresponsbility & I deeply resent it. If she has a solution (and we know she has no clue), we'd all like to hear. Otherwise she can STFU.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 01/29/2007 2:14 Comments || Top||

#4  she was bitching about Bush's failure to capture or kill Bin Ladin. She should REALLY rethink that line....
Posted by: Frank G || 01/29/2007 7:49 Comments || Top||

#5  She thinks she"s got the female vote, thus assuring her victory.
Talking to My wife, NO SHE DOESN"T

Let her rave, more raving=less votes.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 01/29/2007 9:03 Comments || Top||

#6  Weekends in Iowa for the foreseeable future?
I'll bet her skin is crawling...
Posted by: tu3031 || 01/29/2007 9:07 Comments || Top||

#7  Every time I think of her, my skin crawls.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 01/29/2007 10:09 Comments || Top||

#8  [Scene: Hildebeast campaign tour press conference, Fumbuck, Iowa, January, 2008]

HC: ... and I'll take one more question. [points to me]

SW: Steve White, Rantburg Defender-Scimitar. Senator, you've previously stated that it has been the “the height of irresponsibility” for the President to leave the situation in Iraq for whoever wins this November. Give that you've been a senator since 2000, what do you believe your responsibility has been for the war, and have you met it?

HC: ...
Posted by: Steve White || 01/29/2007 10:10 Comments || Top||

#9  HC: "Well I have said that if I knew then what I know now..."

(or words to that effect. Further proof that she isn't the one to lead a nation. No leader gets the benefit of knowing the outcome of any situation more complicated than flipping a light switch at the time. Sorry.)
Posted by: eLarson || 01/29/2007 10:31 Comments || Top||

#10  Ms. Rodham, Is it true that you want to be president only to put that flatware from Air Force One to good use, bitch ?
Posted by: wxjames || 01/29/2007 11:39 Comments || Top||

#11  I'd vote for her, ...er well, I would have.
Posted by: Vince Foster || 01/29/2007 11:42 Comments || Top||

#12  She thinks she"s got the female vote, thus assuring her victory.
Talking to My wife, NO SHE DOESN"T


Not in my household either. If you want to hear serious, primal loathing just ask my wife what she thinks of Hillary.
Posted by: xbalanke || 01/29/2007 12:56 Comments || Top||

#13  As Safire prophetically stated - "she is a pathalogical liar". Always has been, still is and will continue to be. Unfortunately, I believe there are as many dumbasses out there that voted for Kerry who will vote for her also. She is the anti-Bush and for the media of today that is all they want - redmeat and boiled onions. Only two guys out there who can cut her down to size - Rudy and McCain. But will they have the nerve to do so in front of America and the MSM? Lazio tried that and the MSM made him pay big time.
Posted by: Jack is Back || 01/29/2007 13:29 Comments || Top||

#14  Seriously ugly, too. Nobody that ugly should be allowed on TV.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 01/29/2007 15:12 Comments || Top||

#15  She's right. Bush should resolve ALL on-going problems and not leave a complete mess for his successor. That would be the responsible thing to do. Just like her husband did. Oh, wait ...
Posted by: DMFD || 01/29/2007 18:16 Comments || Top||

#16  I still hold that the key for Hillary will be the status of the WOT + Rogues come nomination/elex time 2008. She prefers eight years of Bill-style, MSM-verified geopol "quiet" and Democrat-credited [Reagan-GOP] econ
"prosperity", THE PC "LAST HURRAH" OF FREE AMERICA BEFORE ANTI-SOVEREIGN SUBORNMENT TO ANTI-US OWG, OR NATIONAL DESTRUCTION BY ANARCHY + MILITARY WARFARE. Worse to worse, she can be POTUS becuz she "survived" GOP-caused, GOP-blamed terror = first-strike decapitation attacks agz the NPE. Rest assured Dubya-GOP wil be blamed anyways for not making concessions to Radical Islam + Iran, i.e. causing mushroom clouds inside Amer by not paying/bribing off the Spetzlamists to attack and hurt us. CLINTONISM > EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING "JUSTIFIES" SOCIALISM, GOVT-ISM,ETC. ERGO DELIBER NOT LABELED/CALLED SOCIALISM, GOVT-ISM, ETC.

* GOP led by Far Right.
* USA making too many mistakes/errors to be trusted to itself or other nations.
* USA is dishonorable, wid a lying Gubmint.
* USA not obeying the UNO + World Community.
* GOP acting contrary to USA's mainstream, sacred CONSERVATIVE National Leftism-Socialism-Communism.
* GOP-USA acting belligerent + imperialist; is an arrogant bully that must be CONTROLLED + CONSTRAINED.
* USA must Must MUST M-U-S-T MMMUUUUSSSSTTTTT, D ***ng it, RECOGNIZE RUSSIA, CHINA, + "ASIA", BUT WEIRDLY + MYSTERIOUSLY NOT SOUTH AMERICA, NOT CENTRAL AMERICA, NOT AFRICA, NOT THE ME, NOT THE ARCTIC + ANTARCTIC, JAPAN, NOT EVEN WESTERN EUROPE-CANADA.
* USA must act in a PROGRESSIVE [national]manner, with PROGRESSIVE national policies.
* USA is a SOCIALIST NATION.

OH THE HUMANITY!
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 01/29/2007 19:38 Comments || Top||

#17  DMFD nails it. Let's get Bush to *solve* all these issues, ASAP. She's not gonna like how we'd *solve* it, but at least we wouldn't be "irresponsible" and leaving it for the next administration.

Otherwise, let Rudy go at her. I may loathe his social politics, but he's 110% behind this WoT.
Posted by: BA || 01/29/2007 20:07 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Military Aims to Cut Back on 'Stop Loss'
WASHINGTON (AP) - In an action branded a backdoor draft by some critics, the military over the past several years has held tens of thousands of soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines on the job and in war zones beyond their retirement dates or enlistment length.

It is a widely disliked practice that the Pentagon, under new Defense Secretary Robert Gates, is trying to figure out how to cut back on. Gates has ordered that the practice - known as "stop loss" - must "be minimized." At the same time, he is looking for ways to decrease the hardship for troops and their families, recruit more people for a larger military and reassess how the active duty and reserves are used.

Gates has asked the chief of each service branch for a plan by the end of February on how they would rely less on stop loss.

The Defense Department says the main reason for the policy is to keep units whole for deployments, regardless of whether service time is up for some individuals in the unit. "It's based on unit cohesion," former Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld once said when a soldier questioned him about the policy during Rumsfeld's visit to the staging area in Kuwait that is used for troops going into Iraq. "The principle is that - in the event there is something that requires a unit to be involved in, and people are in a personal situation where their time was ending - they put a stop-loss on it so cohesion is maintained," Rumsfeld said.

Rumsfeld said the policy was "something you prefer not to have to use in a perfect world." He said it was basically a sound principle and well understood among soldiers.

A half-dozen lawsuits have unsuccessfully challenged the policy. Courts have agreed that the Pentagon involuntarily can extend deployments if the president believes the practice is essential to national security.

Though families dislike the policy and some troops oppose it, others accept it as a fact of life in wartime.
Posted by: Steve White || 01/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "It's based on unit cohesion,"

Rubbish! It's based on the simple fact there are not enough able bodied lads in uniform to go around.
Posted by: Besoeker || 01/29/2007 4:43 Comments || Top||

#2  I was going to say that surely there will be less of this as we downsize forces based in Germany, Korea, Japan and suchlike, where after all we no longer need garrisoned armies to enforce the peace locally... and then as the annually increasing number of recruits graduate from training and are ready to be sent out. But then I realized that we keep expanding operations and the number of operations in Africa, Asia and the Middle East, so pretty much there's an infinitely expanding need for the foreseeable future. I really have got to stop thinking while my thoughts are comfortable and comforting!

Unit cohesion is a nice thing to be part of, though, if they won't set you free anyway.
Posted by: trailing wife || 01/29/2007 6:46 Comments || Top||

#3  We have enough lads in the combat arms area. The problem is the rear area guys are trying to leave after their term is up. They have lots of experience that defense contractors pay good money for and the military can't train new guys fast enough to fill the ranks.
Posted by: DarthVader || 01/29/2007 9:26 Comments || Top||

#4  Contractor$, why do they hate u$.
Posted by: Besoeker || 01/29/2007 9:29 Comments || Top||

#5  OK guys. Let's deal in facts. Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution gives Congress the power to make the laws governing all land and naval forces. Congress does that through Title 10 USC. Here's the appropriate part of the law.

TITLE 10 > Subtitle A > PART II > CHAPTER 39 > para. 671a

Unless terminated at an earlier date by the Secretary concerned, the period of active service of any member of an armed force is extended for the duration of any war in which the United States may be engaged and for six months thereafter.


Since Senate Joint Resolution 23 passed by Congress in 2001 invoked the War Powers Act authority, the conditions of para 671a are in effect. That DoD exercises discretion rather than blanket retention doesn't render the authority invalid. Once the service member receives a discharge [usually the DD Form 214] after 10 years of duty, they are not subject to recall back to active duty, with specific exceptions [i.e. Regular Army Commissions - some lifetime obligations involved]. By keeping them on active duty IAW with Title 10, their employment date remains open till six months after Congress or DoD determines end of hostilities.

The referral to 'backdoor draft' simply reflects a misunderstanding of what a 'draft' truely constitutes. Per TITLE 10 > Subtitle A > PART I > CHAPTER 13 > para 311, the federal militia -

311. Militia: composition and classes

(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are—
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.


In clearer language, the draft is the selective activation of the 'unorganized' federal militia. Since those on active duty are no longer in the militia pool, it is not a 'draft' in any form to retain them on active duty. It is however another dishonest linguistic piece of propaganda. So what else is new.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 01/29/2007 10:12 Comments || Top||

#6  Nice legal fisking there, P2k. Agreed on all points.

Fact is, we all know what we're signing up for. Sometimes it sucks. News flash: soldiers bitch and grumble. LOL.
Posted by: exJAG || 01/29/2007 10:46 Comments || Top||

#7  True. Once you swear in, Uncle Sam owns your ass. It does suck, but we all knew what we were signing up for.
Posted by: DarthVader || 01/29/2007 11:06 Comments || Top||

#8  Procopius and Darth,
Excellent points, gentlemen. Let me add something if I may - I served from 89 to 93 as a USAF recruiter (a job whose miseries released me from fear of ANY terrors that may await me in the Ninth Circle of Hell)and let me assure you that the recall/extended service clauses of a recruiting contract are repeatedly pointed out and emphasized to the recruit on at least three separate occasions prior to their reporting to basic training. The 'backdoor draft' line is not only an unbelieveably stupid one, but one whose utter foolishness should have brought down immediate and unconditional condemnation from the DOD AND the Press. Unfortunately, one was too scared to say anything, and the other had its own agenda.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 01/29/2007 12:13 Comments || Top||

#9  "Once the service member receives a discharge [usually the DD Form 214] after 10 years of duty,"
When did this change; it used to be 6.
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 01/29/2007 15:27 Comments || Top||

#10  "Give your hearts to Jesus, boys - 'cause your ass belongs to me!"
-- DI at Parris Island
Posted by: mojo || 01/29/2007 16:09 Comments || Top||

#11  Those of us who are in the "retired reserve" are eligible for involuntary recall in time of war, based upon age, military specialty, and physical capabilities, as long as we're "retired". Most people don't realize that. I think one way to quickly build up the Armed Forces is to activate selected members of the retired reserve, and gradually replace them as new recruits are trained and as those on active duty gain relevant experience. It would put a hurt on some businesses, but it would solve the problem of manpower in the short run. It would also show the entire nation that we are at WAR, not playing dominance games. It would also shaft certain members of congress who have no clue about military service or the patriotism of those who serve.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 01/29/2007 17:46 Comments || Top||


Brother disowns Hafiz Saeed
Imam Muhammad Masood from Boston, who is fighting deportation, has disowned his brother, Jamaatud Dawa founder Hafiz Saeed, declaring, “I am not his brother.”

According to the newspaper Patriot Ledger, the imam said that some people might suspect him because his brother, Muhammad Saeed, is one of Pakistan’s most notorious radical Muslim leaders. “He disavowed any relationship, certainly with his brother’s politics,” said Deacon Mike Iwanowicz, who represented Our Lady of Sorrows Catholic Church at an interfaith meeting last Wednesday.

Rabbi Barry Starr of Temple Israel and the Rev Deborah Cayer of the Unitarian Church of Sharon dismissed the family link as “guilt by association.”

Two other Massachusetts imams are also related to Hafiz Saeed. Imam Mahmood Hamid of the Islamic Society of Greater Worcester is also his brother and Imam Abdul Hannan of the Islamic Society of Greater Lowell is married to his sister. Imam Masood told the group he could not remember the last time he spoke to Saeed - ''a long time ago,’’ Rabbi Starr reports Imam Masood as having said. During a 90-minute meeting with Imam Masood last week, seven rabbis, Protestant pastors and a representative from the local Roman Catholic parish pledged help for the Sharon mosque’s former spiritual director - everything from raising money to paying family expenses to a letter of support that will be sent to Sen Edward Kennedy, Sen John Kerry and US Rep Barney Frank, among others.

Patriot Ledger reports that Rabbi Starr and others said that it was Imam Masood who had requested the meeting. One online blogger writes, “So, we do not wish to engage in ‘guilt by association.’ But it’s legitimate to ask questions. Until you ask questions, you don’t know what relationship - if any- exists between Hafiz Saeed and his numerous siblings and in-law in Massachusetts.”
Posted by: Fred || 01/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Imam Muhammad Masood is hoping no incriminating audio or video tapes of him promoting jihad and terrorism (or of last month's phone call to his brother) ever surface, else he will for sure meet the fate of Imam Damra, formerly of Cleveland, O. Stay tuned. Why Protestant & Catholic clergy are providing support for him is something that makes sense, I guess, in Massachusetts in the same way that re-electing Kerry and Kennedy do. They have forgotten that two of the flights of 9/11 originated in Boston.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 01/29/2007 2:20 Comments || Top||

#2  Lying to the infidels...and it looks like they bought it.
Posted by: tu3031 || 01/29/2007 9:09 Comments || Top||

#3  Muhammad Masood is already in trouble for getting in the US with a fraudulent religious worker visa (aka Adopt an Islamist) and will be deported. Just be sure to get a clear recording of Masood denouncing his brother and mail it to Hafiz Saeed c/o Al Qaeda Pakistan.

PS. These stupid fucks Rabbi Starr and Rev Cayer should be deported to Pakistan with Masood and learn firsthand how Massod and clan treat Jews and (nominal) Christians.
Posted by: ed || 01/29/2007 16:50 Comments || Top||

#4  And Deacon Iwanowicz too.
Posted by: ed || 01/29/2007 16:51 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Taliban Terror Recruitment in Pakistan GWOT "Ally"
By RIAZ KHAN AND MATTHEW PENNINGTON

SHABQADAR, Pakistan (AP) - Near Pakistan's border with Afghanistan, pride mixes with grief and anger over dozens of young men lost to a stepped-up recruiting drive for the Taliban.

Like the anti-Soviet rebels of the 1980s and the pre-9/11 Taliban, the recruiters of today have turned to this cluster of about 25 ethnic Pashtun villages in search of volunteers.

The father of one dead enlistee says he feels honoured, but with many of Shabqadar's young men dead or feared missing on the battlefield, mujaheddin recruiters are no longer welcome here.

A shopkeeper says 100 or more young men have gone missing, including his cousin, a 10th grade student, who mysteriously left home during the summer vacation and is believed to have gone to fight.

People here are religious, and recruiters play on that sentiment, "recruiting the youth with raw minds," he said.

The shopkeeper, like many others interviewed, requested anonymity for his own safety.

Pressure from residents and the shooting and wounding of a local newspaperman who reported about the "martyrs" of Shabqadar compelled authorities in November to shut a local office of Harkat-ul-Mujahedeen, an outlawed Pakistani militant group. It had circulated jihadist literature and CDs and recruited mostly jobless young men to go to Afghanistan - like their fathers who fought the Soviet occupation of that country two decades ago.

Following the closure, recruiting has dried up, according to one former recruiter. But Samina Ahmed, an expert with the International Crisis Group think tank, warns that the upsurge in Taliban attacks on NATO forces is boosting the morale of sympathizers in Pakistani border areas and attracting recruits who are susceptible to militant propaganda and believe the Taliban can regain power...

Posted by: Ebbolurt Whereger2708 || 01/29/2007 02:16 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I read an article recently that ISI are actively terrorising local villagers to fight in Afghanistan!!!!
Posted by: Crinens Claviting2862 || 01/29/2007 12:27 Comments || Top||

#2  One would think the Pashtuns have second thoughts after just one border province lost 7000 jihadis during the 2001 taliban ass kicking. Sons never to return and take care of papa in old age. Though memories are long in Waziristan, math skills are deficient.
Posted by: ed || 01/29/2007 17:24 Comments || Top||

#3  There are still plenty of spare sons emptying the refrigerator and causing trouble I suspect, ed.
Posted by: trailing wife || 01/29/2007 19:29 Comments || Top||


Petition filed against US forces' attacks
ISLAMABAD — Lt Gen (rtd) Hameed Gul, a former chief of the Inter Services Intelligence (ISI), has filed a constitutional petition in the Supreme Court (SC) seeking protection of the fundamental rights of citizens with special reference to a recent attack of US-led coalition forces in Shawaal area of North Waziristan agency in which a Pakistani soldier was martyred.
Cheez, the ACLU is everywhere.
The petition appeals to the court to order an inquiry into the attack, compensation for martyred soldier's family and an end to the operations in the tribal areas.
Posted by: Steve White || 01/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Hey, where's Hammed live? And are those coordinates on a cruise missile someplace?
Posted by: tu3031 || 01/29/2007 9:11 Comments || Top||

#2  This guy seems to be running the show.We should take him out asap!!!
Posted by: Crinens Claviting2862 || 01/29/2007 12:37 Comments || Top||

#3  Perhaps Hamid would like to personally deliver the petition. The address is: Camp X-Ray, Guantanamo, APO BR549.
Posted by: ed || 01/29/2007 17:32 Comments || Top||

#4  ARCLIGHT Peshawar and watch this kind of crap dry up. Of course, Pakistan will seethe, so ARCLIGHT Rawalpindi and Islamabad the next day to get the remainder of the idiots.

I have no sympathy with Pakistan or any pakistani. It's a "nation" that needs to disappear.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 01/29/2007 17:52 Comments || Top||


No foreign troops in Pakistan
ISLAMABAD — There is neither any foreign intervention in Pakistan nor are any foreign forces operating from the country, Defence Secretary Lt Gen (rtd) Tariq Waseem Ghazi told the Public Accounts Committee (PAC) during a meeting here.

"Pakistani territory is fully under our control and there is no foreign intervention at all," he said, responding to a question of Aasyia Azeem, a PAC member. Quoting a news item, Aasyia said Nato had made arrangements with Pakistan to launch military operations from its territory which could undermine sovereignty of the country.
Posted by: Steve White || 01/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  As long as our special operators stay out of uniform, I guess that's technically true.
Posted by: Frozen Al || 01/29/2007 10:24 Comments || Top||

#2  I don't think we're the bone of contention here...
Posted by: tu3031 || 01/29/2007 10:26 Comments || Top||

#3  i think they are worried Quetta might be targeted
Posted by: Crinens Claviting2862 || 01/29/2007 12:40 Comments || Top||

#4  Hey, where is Baghdad Bob these days? Did he get caught up in the big net? Haven't heard much about him or Tariq Aziz lately. In fact, they may want to bring him back to brief our deadass media types over there. Wouldn't do any more harm than Jemail Hussein has done.
Posted by: Jack is Back || 01/29/2007 13:35 Comments || Top||

#5  As I recall, Jack is Back, Baghdad Bob tried to turn himself in, but nobody wanted him. So he wandered off to Dubai or someplace on the Gulf, I think.
Posted by: trailing wife || 01/29/2007 19:36 Comments || Top||


Islamabad police raid seminaries to arrest clerics
Police raided several seminaries in Rawalpindi and Islamabad early on Sunday to arrest clerics “as a pre-emptive measure to maintain peace during Muharram”, while a meeting of clerics was underway later in the day to evolve a strategy against the demolition of some mosques by the government authorities and raids on madrassas.

“Special police squads raided several seminaries to arrest clerics as a pre-emptive measure to maintain peace on Ashura and implement a ban on the use of loudspeakers,” sources told Daily Times. Police raided Jamia Muhammadia in F-6/4, Madrassa Ma’araful Quran in Karachi Company, Madrassa Haqania and Jamia Qasmia in F-7 and offices of the Khatam-e-Nabuwwat Pakistan and Jamia Sadda, and arrested Mian Muhammad Naqshbandi, Maulana Khalid Alvi, Maulana Tayyab and Mufti Khalid. However, Senior Superintendent of Islamabad Police Sikandar Hayat said that only two clerics had been arrested during the last 24 hours.

“We have arrested them over misuse of loudspeaker,” he said. Maulana Zahoor Alvi said that a meeting of the clerics to discuss raids on madrassas and demolition of mosques was in progress. He said the meeting would evolve a strategy to deal with the prevailing situation.
Posted by: Fred || 01/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  What other religion openly supports/encourages violence??????

Religion of peace-not!!!!!
Posted by: Crinens Claviting2862 || 01/29/2007 12:55 Comments || Top||


Iraq
Iraqi officials explain Talibani's visit to Syria
Top Iraqi officials discussed their country's relations with neighboring Syria, saying ties with Damascus should help to stabilize this country following a recent visit there by President Jalal Talabani, his office said Sunday.

The meeting of the Iraq's Political Council for National Security, that includes the top leaders in the country, was held to discuss Talabani's trip to Syria, a statement said. Talabani told the officials during Saturday's meeting that security was the main topic that he discussed with Syrian officials during this month's visit, the first by an Iraqi president in two decades to the western neighbor.

Council members affirmed that "it is necessary to normalize, improve and strengthen relations between the two brotherly countries," the statement said. They also said both countries "should work to bring security and stability to Iraq.
Posted by: Fred || 01/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  normalize and at the same time tell Baby Assad that his days are counted if he does not start behaving
Posted by: Elmavitch Threretch5742 || 01/29/2007 14:49 Comments || Top||


Australia: Iraq pullout would damage US alliance
Australia would damage its defense alliance with the United States if Canberra quits Iraq, Prime Minister John Howard warned critics Monday. Howard said he had agreed to send 2,000 troops to back the US and British militaries in the Iraq invasion due to the perceived threat of weapons of mass destruction - but also to preserve Canberra's alliance with Washington, formalized in a 1951 security treaty. "We ... took the decision in part because of our alliance with the United States," Howard told Southern Cross Broadcasting radio. "I have to now deal with a decision," Howard said. "Do we rat on the Americans?"
Posted by: Fred || 01/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Not that I don't appreciate the Aussie presence but wouldn't they have been more useful acting as advisors in Thailand, Phillipines and Indonesia? Or would they be unwelcome in those countries?
Posted by: rjschwarz || 01/29/2007 18:20 Comments || Top||

#2  This is Amerika, D***ng it, the mighty USSA = weak anti-sovereign minor SSR/USR, the land of the HONEST/ETHICS = CRIME, GOVT = MAFIA "MONICA DEFENSE" + where Gubmint must first discuss a formal "exit strategy" publicly before we invade anyone. Amerika is not pulling out - WE ARE ATTACKATREATING = RETREATATACKING IN IRAQ, AND DON'T YOUSE ALL FERGIT IT. D *** IT, THE DEMS ARE SERIEUSE ABOUT STOPPING DUBYA ERGO MUST LET DUBYA DO HIS THING. They criticize Dubya ergo SSSSSHHHHHHHH, don't really mean it ergo DUBYA HAS TO GO.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 01/29/2007 19:55 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Hmmm: Israel buys thousands of Boeing smart bomb kits
Posted by: trailing wife || 01/29/2007 14:29 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Boom Baby!

Hopefully more rocket launchers baby ducks get hit.
Posted by: DarthVader || 01/29/2007 14:55 Comments || Top||

#2  I would be just as happy with carpet bombing.
Posted by: Excalibur || 01/29/2007 15:11 Comments || Top||

#3  The article says $100M buy. How many JDAM kits does that buy?
Posted by: Brett || 01/29/2007 15:27 Comments || Top||

#4  Question: Are these the same JDAM's that were used in Afghanistan by our SO? You know, the kind where we've got "boots on the ground" that guide the bomb to the target through the use of lasers?

Please advise.

Iran, take note.
Posted by: Mark Z || 01/29/2007 15:30 Comments || Top||

#5  And in related news;
Navy Rushes Close Air Support Weapon to Iraq (Aviation Week & Space Technology 01/29/2007)

The U.S. Navy will begin deliveries of a modified weapon designed to provide close air support to ground troops in urban areas in Iraq no later than March.

The whole article describes this new weapon, but in a nutshell is is a smaller version of a cluster bomb to be used in confined areas. I think of it as a "Rockeye-Lite."
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 01/29/2007 15:32 Comments || Top||

#6  The Navy? Are they flying CAS in Iraq?
Posted by: Mike N. || 01/29/2007 16:09 Comments || Top||

#7  During its July 12-August 14 air war against Lebanon, Israel dropped more than a million cluster bombs in southern Lebanon, according to the UN, to counter Hezbollah rocket attacks that were killing Israelis.

The cluster munitions, which spread bomblets over a wide area from a single container, included artillery shells, rockets and bombs dropped from aircraft, many of which the US sold to Israel years ago, a US official told the daily.


Unless they are counting individual bomblets, I find it difficult to believe that the Israelis could drop more than a million cluster bombs in 33 days.
Posted by: RWV || 01/29/2007 16:12 Comments || Top||

#8  JDAM

JDAM is being developed by Lockheed Martin and Boeing [McDonald Douglas]. In October 1995, the Air Force awarded a contract for EMD and for the first 4,635 JDAM kits at an average unit cost of $18,000, less than half the original $40,000 estimate.

$100M/$18,000 = 5,556
Posted by: RWV || 01/29/2007 16:22 Comments || Top||

#9  RWV - I always figgered the million was the bomblets.

But, ya know, each one of them can kill a baby duck!
Posted by: Bobby || 01/29/2007 16:37 Comments || Top||

#10  Latest JDAM contracts are running at $23,000 a piece. After the 10% US contract admin fees, the Israelis will receive 4000.
Posted by: ed || 01/29/2007 17:27 Comments || Top||


Fatah accepts Egyptian initiative to end fighting with Hamas
(Xinhua) -- A leader of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) said on Sunday evening that Fatah movement led by Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has accepted an Egyptian initiative with the aim of ending infighting with the ruling Hamas movement. Kayed al-Ghoul, who is also a member of the higher committee of Palestinian factions, disclosed that his movement and the Islamic Jihad (Holy War) have drawn up the new plan along with the Egyptian security team. "We are waiting to hear Hamas reaction to the plan," al-Ghoul said.

Meanwhile, Khader Habib, a local leader of the Islamic Jihad, told Xinhua that Hamas was also likely to accept the Egyptian proposal. The five-article plan calls on the conflicting factions to withdraw their militants from streets immediately in a bid to end infighting and form a committee to investigate latest killings. The plan also urged all factions to trade hostage held by both sides and return to the national dialogue which was stalled due to factional violence. However, in spite of the new initiative, factional infighting continued in the Gaza Strip, where a member of Hamas-led Auxiliary Forces was killed in southern Gaza city of Khan Younis this evening, bringing the death toll from the factional clashes since Thursday to 24.

Also in Khan Younis, security sources said that a commander of Hamas' armed wing was kidnapped by Fatah gunmen regardless of Fatah's approval to the Egyptian initiative. Meanwhile, it was reported that Hamas, Fatah and the Palestinian government have all expressed welcome to an offer by Saudi Arabia to host talks among fighting rivals under sponsorship of the Saudi authorities.
Posted by: Fred || 01/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Trucefire™ Part Neuf: Peace in our time...
Posted by: tu3031 || 01/29/2007 9:15 Comments || Top||


Hamas: Dahlan behind violence
Hamas leaders on Sunday stepped up their rhetorical attacks on senior Fatah operative Muhammad Dahlan, holding him responsible for the latest cycle of violence between Fatah and Hamas. Sources close to Dahlan, who headed the Palestinian Authority's Preventive Security Service in the Gaza Strip between 1994 and 2003, denied the charges and accused Hamas of waging an open war against Fatah and its top leaders.

The sources expressed deep concern for Dahlan's safety in the wake of the "smear campaign and incitement" waged by Hamas in recent weeks. Hamas has already accused Dahlan of being behind a botched assassination attempt against PA Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh.

On Sunday Hamas gunmen detonated an explosive charge outside the home of Salim Khalil, who is in charge of Dahlan's team of bodyguards, and destroyed the first floor completely. Khalil is currently in Egypt. No one was hurt in the attack.

Hamas-run Web sites and spokesmen claimed in recent weeks that Dahlan had set up a special force in the Gaza Strip with the help of the US and Israel to target Hamas representatives. "Dahlan is leading a group of Fatah members who are trying to topple the Hamas government on orders from the Israelis and Americans," said Hamas spokesman Fawzi Barhoum. "The American-Zionist scheme is aimed at eliminating the infrastructure of the Palestinian resistance groups and forcing the Palestinians to make political concessions."

The Hamas leaders are convinced that Dahlan deliberately ordered his followers in Fatah to escalate the situation to foil efforts to form a Palestinian unity government. Hamas legislator Mushir al-Masri claimed that Dahlan was acting on orders from Israel and the US to thwart efforts to form such a government. "Dahlan is even acting against the will of President Mahmoud Abbas, who is keen on pursuing the talks with Hamas over the unity government," he said. "Dahlan is known to have threatened Fatah leaders against joining a Hamas-led government." He also accused Dahlan of thwarting a prisoner exchange with Israel that would have seen the release of kidnapped IDF soldier Gilad Shalit, to prevent Hamas from taking credit for freeing Palestinian prisoners.

Hamas legislator Yehya Mussa called for bringing Dahlan to trial on charges of perpetrating "crimes" against the Palestinians and serving the interests of Israel and the US. He branded Dahlan as "one of the biggest traitors in the history of Fatah."
Posted by: Fred || 01/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This...is the business...we've chosen!
Posted by: Moe Dahlan || 01/29/2007 12:35 Comments || Top||


Iraq Shi'ites not making pilgrimage to Jordan site
Iraqi Shi'ites did not make their customary annual pilgrimage to a holy shine in southern Jordan on Sunday, amid rising Sunni and Shi'ite Muslim tensions following Saddam Hussein's execution. Hundreds of Shi'ites from Iraq as well as Iran usually visit the shrine of Jaafar bin Abi Taleb, one of the Prophet Muhammad's companions, in the town of Mazar for a sermon for Ashoura, which commemorates the 7th century death of Imam Hussein. His death began the schism between Sunnis and Shi'ites.

"We were expecting some visitors, like last year's 1,500 visitors, tonight, but strangely, no one showed up," said a religious official at the site, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not allowed to make statements to the press. Following Saddam's Dec. 30 hanging, residents of the Mazar as well as the nearby city of Kerak threatened to avenge the former Iraqi dictator's death against Iraqi Shi'ites. They blamed the hanging of Saddam, a Sunni, on the Shi'ite-led government in Iraq.
Posted by: Fred || 01/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I suspect the pilgrims died on the way to the shrine.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 01/29/2007 2:22 Comments || Top||


PA officials accuse Iran, Syria of promoting civil war
Palestinian Authority officials on Sunday accused Iran and Syria of pushing the Palestinians toward civil war, saying Hamas is acting on orders from Teheran and Damascus. The allegation came as the number of Palestinians killed in internecine fighting rose to 27. Six more Palestinians were killed Sunday in armed clashes between Hamas and Fatah gunmen in various locations in the Gaza Strip.

In a related development, Hamas and Fatah officials welcomed a Saudi invitation to hold reconciliation talks in Mecca. The invitation, which was issued by King Abdullah bin Abdel Aziz, is the first of its kind and signals the Saudi government's concern over the growing involvement of Iran and Syria in Palestinian affairs.

In Nablus, the largest West Bank city, Fatah gunmen kidnapped 10 Hamas members and demanded the resignation of PA Interior Minister Said Siam of Hamas and the dismantlement of Hamas's "Executive Force" in the Gaza Strip. "Iran and Syria are encouraging Hamas to continue fighting against Fatah," said a senior official in PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas's office. "They want to deliver a message to the Americans that there will be no stability in Palestine, Iraq and Lebanon as long as Washington continues to ignore Syria and Iran."

Another PA official said the leaders of Iran and Syria were also responsible for the failure of talks between Fatah and Hamas over the formation of a Palestinian unity government. "They are putting heavy pressure on Hamas not to make any concessions that would facilitate the formation of a unity government," he said. "They are trying to undermine US allies in Palestine, Iraq and Lebanon."

Members of Fatah's armed wing, the Aksa Martyrs Brigades, kidnapped 10 Hamas activists in Nablus, including Sheikh Fayyad al-Aghbar, a member of the city's municipal council.

Eyewitnesses said Aghbar was snatched by dozens of Fatah gunmen as he waited in line inside the local branch of the Arab-Islamic Bank.

The Fatah gunmen also raided the local offices of the Hamas-run Education Ministry and kidnapped five employees affiliated with Hamas. The attackers destroyed furniture and equipment inside the offices, the eyewitnesses said. A man who tried to prevent the gunmen from kidnapping his relative, who is also a Hamas member, was shot in the legs, they said.

The gunmen issued a statement demanding the resignation of Siam and the dismantlement of Hamas's security force in the Gaza Strip. They accused Aghbar of issuing orders to Hamas gunmen in the West Bank to shoot Fatah members. The statement said the hostages were senior Hamas leaders in Nablus.

During an emergency meeting of the Hamas-led government in Gaza City, PA Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh urged Palestinians to abandon violence and endorse dialogue as the only means for solving differences. He appealed to Abbas to order all militiamen to withdraw from the streets and to remove security checkpoints set up in many areas in the Gaza Strip.

"Palestinian society does not need to be further militarized," Haniyeh said. "The Interior Ministry alone is responsible for restoring law and order."

Ahmed Abdel Rahman, a senior Abbas aide, responded by holding Haniyeh's government responsible for the latest deterioration because of its failure to respect the law and democracy.
Posted by: Fred || 01/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  No SH*^?
Posted by: newc || 01/29/2007 0:21 Comments || Top||

#2  Ahmed Abdel Rahman:"failure to respect the law and democracy"

Law and democracy in Paleostan? He is either a few marbles short of the full set, or his lips fell off after he uttered it.
Posted by: twobyfour || 01/29/2007 1:52 Comments || Top||

#3  In related news, Fatah has decided that it's an ally of the United States...
Posted by: Mitch H. || 01/29/2007 12:56 Comments || Top||

#4  In other related news
The United States said"no thanks"
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 01/29/2007 16:22 Comments || Top||


No clear winner emerging from Gaza fight
No clear winner is emerging from the deadly fighting in Gaza between the Hamas and Fatah movements, a sign that neither is strong enough to knock the other out. The bitter rivals have been buying, smuggling and building weapons for months trying to gain an edge, but they have held back from all-out battle and find themselves in a stalemate.

That leaves many Palestinians with grim hopes that a power-sharing deal still can be worked out between the Islamic militants of Hamas and the more moderate President Mahmoud Abbas of Fatah.

Bursts of violence have alternated with periods of tense calm since the factional fighting erupted in December following the collapse of Hamas-Fatah coalition talks and Abbas' threat to call early elections. Experts expect the pattern to continue. "They are equal parties," analyst Nasser Al Lahham said. "No one can cancel the other out."

Twenty-nine Palestinians, including two children, have died during the latest outburst of street fighting that began Thursday, raising the death toll to more than 60 since last month. Clashes involving mortars, grenades, bombs and assault rifles have erupted spontaneously, without clear objectives or central command, raged for a few hours, then suddenly fizzled.

Saudi King Abdullah offered Sunday to mediate between the rivals. Both sides welcomed the offer but did not say when talks might be held. Ghazi Hamad, spokesman for the Hamas-led government, said the Islamic group was in talks with Egyptian mediators.

Fatah gunmen killed a Hamas activist in Khan Younis on Sunday and a Hamas security force member in Gaza City early Monday. Another gunman, whose affiliation was not immediately known, and a 45-year-old civilian were also killed, hospital officials said. Several kidnappings also were reported in the factional conflict. The most brazen was in the West Bank city of Nablus, where Fatah gunmen walked into a bank and dragged out a local Hamas leader.

Hot spots in the fighting include the headquarters of Abbas' security forces, Hamas-run mosques and the homes and offices of leaders from both sides, where guards hunker down behind concrete barriers and piles of sandbags. Traffic jams are getting worse by the day in Gaza City's already crowded streets because more and more roads are being closed to motorists by the rival security forces. Neither side is using all of its firepower because they are giving coalition talks another chance and because they fear risking defeat in an all-out confrontation, said Mouin Rabbani, a Jordan-based analyst for the International Crisis Group, an independent think tank.

Each side can count on thousands of armed men. Most members of Palestinian security forces are loyal to Abbas, while Hamas last year set up its own 5,600-man militia. Each also has a military wing — Fatah's Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades and Hamas' Izzedine Al Qassam Brigades. Hamas is getting funds from Iran and other Islamic supporters worldwide, while the Bush administration has asked Congress to approve $85 million in aid for Abbas' troops.

Israeli analyst Shlomo Brom, a retired army general, said the U.S. shouldn't count on Abbas being able to defeat Hamas militarily. "That is not going to happen, because Hamas is a political movement that enjoys great support among the Palestinians," he said.

The Gaza muddle will likely continue, Brom added. "The probability of a full-scale war is low, because the two parties understand the consequences and they understand there will be no clear winner."
Posted by: Fred || 01/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Continue until clear winner emerges.
Posted by: gromgoru || 01/29/2007 0:16 Comments || Top||

#2  C'mon you guys - you're not trying hard enough!
Posted by: Pappy || 01/29/2007 1:06 Comments || Top||

#3  Many hope Hamas & Fatah will fight to the last Palestinian.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 01/29/2007 2:24 Comments || Top||

#4  Is there a PayPal button for the Widows and Orphans Ammunition Fund?
Posted by: Grunter || 01/29/2007 7:00 Comments || Top||

#5  No clear winner is emerging from the deadly fighting in Gaza between the Hamas and Fatah...

Good.
Posted by: tu3031 || 01/29/2007 9:17 Comments || Top||

#6  Will there be re-matches planned?
Posted by: Besoeker || 01/29/2007 9:31 Comments || Top||

#7  “Bursts of violence have alternated with periods of tense calm...”

Ain’t that a quaint little oxymoron to describe the times when they run out of ammo.
Posted by: DepotGuy || 01/29/2007 10:07 Comments || Top||

#8  Actually, there is a clear winner emerging from this fight : the rest of the freaking world! As long as the Paleos are whacking each other, they are not able to whack others. This is kind of like the Iran-Iraq War : everyone in the world was supplying both sides with weapons, munitions, intelligence, maps, and the like - in the richly-rewarded hope that the two sides would stomp each other into respective mudholes.
Posted by: Shieldwolf || 01/29/2007 17:10 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Editor of Iranian Kayhan Daily Reacts to U.N. Resolution Against Holocaust Denial
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 01/29/2007 12:35 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Wow.

"If America and its allies claim so fervently that the Holocaust should be considered a historical reality, they should provide proof and documents that prove their opinion, which [has become] the cause of the occupation of Palestine and the countless crimes of the Zionists… However, despite this rational and scientific [demand], not only have they not provided and are not providing documents and records to prove the Holocaust - as they have none - but they also threaten those who deny this myth with condemnation. The UNGA resolution on Friday was the most ridiculous example of this… "

Try the Holocaust Museum in Washington, D.C. for 'proof'. I can still smell the shoes....

(Toward the end of the exhibit is a large, long room with shoes found at a concentration camp piled high on both sides of the aisle. Piles and piles of shoes, with a musty leather smell - not like stinky gym shoes. Both the image and the smell have remained with me for several years now.)

Posted by: Bobby || 01/29/2007 12:51 Comments || Top||

#2  Bobby, you are right, of course. But men like this cannot be swayed by reason or fact or else they would not hold the views they do. The only answer, it seems to me, is to bring war to these latter day Nazis and put them to the sword.
Posted by: Excalibur || 01/29/2007 13:25 Comments || Top||

#3  The problem is that the Holocaust Museum is in the US. Therefore, the editor has never been/will never be there. And he would just deny it.

Despite the volumes of records taken from the camps, the testimony of eyewitnesses, the numerous trials from Nuremburg on, etc, they will not believe.
Posted by: Rambler || 01/29/2007 13:30 Comments || Top||

#4  Easily fixed: fly him here. Walk him into the museum. Escort him through each exhibit. Slowly. Then do it again. Provide him with a copy of the two or three best books in the gift shop. Put his ass back on the plane and send him home.

Then monitor his next column and see if it made a difference whatsoever.
Posted by: Steve White || 01/29/2007 14:12 Comments || Top||

#5  It won't make any difference, Steve White. Because to him it doesn't matter whether it's true or not, merely that it hasn't been finished.
Posted by: trailing wife || 01/29/2007 14:18 Comments || Top||

#6  We sit here and argue the logic of a group of people thatblame then Kill women who are raped in the name of family honor, think sex with donkeys and boys is ok, and 72 virgins are waiting for them in the after life?? We would be better off arguing with my 8 year old over his PS2 and bed time, at least the agruement would make sense. Soon we will get to the us vs them in totallity and nuke the problem away, I just pray it happens before my sons are of age to fight.
Posted by: 49 Pan || 01/29/2007 15:05 Comments || Top||

#7  Who can blame them when ex-Presidents argue that there are too many Jews on the Holocaust Commission? Jimmy Carter is a disgrace.
Posted by: doc || 01/29/2007 16:05 Comments || Top||

#8  "If America and its allies claim so fervently that the Holocaust should be considered a historical reality, they should provide proof and documents that prove their opinion"

Survivors who saw Germans kill Jews say the Germans did it. Germans who did it admit to doing it. The only thing left is for the victims to say the Germans did it. But they can't.
Posted by: PlanetDan || 01/29/2007 17:11 Comments || Top||

#9  My dad visited Dachau a couple of days after it was captured, and refused to have anything to do with the Germans afterward. I invited him to visit several times when I was stationed there, and he absolutely refused, every time. The only thing that ever made him hate the Germans was Dachau. Unfortunately, Dad's dead now, as are most of his generation. I'm sure they'd have a way to "convince" the Iranians of the Holocaust, if nothing else at bayonet point. That may be the only solution to the problem the entire Islamic world will ever understand.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 01/29/2007 18:25 Comments || Top||


Nasrallah accuses Lebanese gov't of incitement
Hizbullah leader Hassan Nasrallah accused the Lebanese government of incitement and causing tensions between the Shi'ite and Sunni Muslims in the country, Israel Radio reported. According to Hizbullah's television station, Al Manar, Nasrallah also promised that his followers would not fire at anyone in the country. "We oppose the civil war, and we will not work for Israel," he added. The comments came after a week of violent protests against Prime Minister Fuad Saniora's US-backed government.
Posted by: Fred || 01/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Now look what YOU made ME do!"
Posted by: Pholush Ebbetle6296 || 01/29/2007 0:19 Comments || Top||

#2  That's a perfect summary, PE.
Posted by: twobyfour || 01/29/2007 0:35 Comments || Top||

#3  Siniora shouldn't really worry until Nasrallah refers to him as exciting.
Posted by: gromgoru || 01/29/2007 0:47 Comments || Top||

#4  That's a perfect summary, PE.

It's seems that the concept of self-responsability eludes muslim men; wimen has to be neuroticaly covered, becasue otherwise they migh texcite the men who then couldn't be blamed for using that uncovered meat, terrs are always pushed to act by the injustices committed against the Master Religions, seething and rioting and demands for more and more special rights are only the just response to rampant islamophobia, etc, etc... Even sins committed by and madness subjected upon the Pious Peace-loving Muslims are results of the malicious deeds of kufr djinns.

But, since it started with old mo', whose numerous campaigns were of course always self-defense wars against aggression of the unbelievers (including his loting rampages), I guess that's a deeply ingrained pattern.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 01/29/2007 6:09 Comments || Top||

#5  But, since it started with old mo', whose numerous campaigns were of course always self-defense wars against aggression of the unbelievers (including his loting rampages), I guess that's a deeply ingrained pattern.


sorta like invading the Sudetenland
Posted by: PlanetDan || 01/29/2007 8:10 Comments || Top||

#6  Looks like Naz overplayed his hand. Don't think too many folks would be dissapointed if he...went away.
Posted by: tu3031 || 01/29/2007 9:20 Comments || Top||

#7  Pronoun trouble...
Posted by: mojo || 01/29/2007 10:37 Comments || Top||


Hezbollah leader vows to fight back if U.S. operations target it
The leader of the militant Hezbollah vowed on Sunday to fight back against the United States if White House-organized operations were to target the guerrilla group in Lebanon. Hassan Nasrallah said he was reacting to a recent report in the Washington Post that said U.S. President George W. Bush's administration has authorized widening a list of approved operations against Hezbollah in Lebanon aimed at curtailing Iran's influence in the region. "The Americans know that if they want to attack us, the one who will defend us is God. But also our religious duty calls on us to defend ourselves, our dignity and our blood," Nasrallah told hundreds of Shiite Muslim supporters at a rally in Beirut's southern suburbs Sunday night. His remarks, which appeared to be his interpretation of the newspaper report, drew repeated chants of "Death to America" from the crowd.

U.S. officials last week said American troops in Iraq have authority to kill or capture Iranian agents deemed to be a threat as part of measures taking a tougher stand toward Tehran and its suspected meddling in the war. The Washington Post also reported in Friday's editions that Bush authorized other measures meant to curb Iranian influence in the Mideast including a widening of a list of approved operations that can be carried out against the Iranian-backed Hezbollah in Lebanon. The report, which cited anonymous government and counterterrorism officials, said the administration's plan included military, intelligence, political and diplomatic strategies in the region. It did not elaborate.
Posted by: Fred || 01/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I think Iran is going to replace this two time loser. And soon.
Posted by: gromgoru || 01/29/2007 0:16 Comments || Top||

#2  Meh... go ahead. It give us even more reason to dust yo' ass.
Posted by: DarthVader || 01/29/2007 9:28 Comments || Top||

#3  A carrier group in the eastern med, two in the gulf, and lots of armor and infantry on the Iraq/Syria border should clarify their minds wonderfully...
Posted by: mojo || 01/29/2007 13:36 Comments || Top||

#4  This is the time I wish we had a couple of battleship groups to cruise up and down the coast of Lebanon - in close, so the population could see them. I'm sure the sight of three or four of the Big Boys would give Nasrallah a cold shiver or three... The capability of a weapon isn't JUST in its capacity to deliver firepower. Sometimes, just existing can change "hearts and minds".
Posted by: Old Patriot || 01/29/2007 18:38 Comments || Top||

#5  Problem is, they don't beleive we have the strength of mind to actually use such things against them, Old Patriot. They read it as similar to waving AK-47s and making faces.
Posted by: trailing wife || 01/29/2007 19:42 Comments || Top||

#6  CNN this morning [Guam time] > Dubya has warned Iran that the USA will respond firmly iff Iran escalates its support for the insurgency in Iraq; plus that that Iran is trying to influence and control the region politically [proxies?] as well as economically. OTOH, CNN > curr polls > claim to indicate that Dubya is a "lame duck" POTUS as far as Amer are concerned, one whose Admin is mostly "over". POLLS < Dubya remains a POTUS whose policies are influenced by his personal = religious beliefs, NOT by "the Facts"!?
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 01/29/2007 20:15 Comments || Top||



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