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Afghanistan
NATO military leader says force in Afghanistan is 2,500 troops short
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 12/22/2006 11:24 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Killing 2,500 Taliban to rectify the imbalance would work, wouldn't it?
Posted by: Raj || 12/22/2006 12:06 Comments || Top||

#2  LOL Raj...

It'd be easier to go that route then to try to find 2,500 fighting "men" from Europe. The only men Europe has to offer are already in service.
Posted by: Mark Z || 12/22/2006 13:33 Comments || Top||

#3  This is just crap. Rather than invest the 2500 fighting personnel they'll cut themselves short and protract this thing until 2050. Somehow in their minds they'll be saving tons of money.
Posted by: gorb || 12/22/2006 14:21 Comments || Top||

#4  Year 2050 > the maxima certain 'Perts + pro-Radic bloggers claim the USA will be either be destroyed; or no longer a major world power = hyperpower of any form or of any significance.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 12/22/2006 21:22 Comments || Top||

#5  Goodness me! Them boys got lips like .10¢ pickles!


Posted by: Circles it is! || 12/22/2006 16:07 Comments || Top||


French deny they missed chance to kill Bin Laden
The French Defense Ministry strenuously denied a report Thursday that its special forces in Afghanistan twice had al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden in their sights but did not get the go-ahead to kill him.
We guessed that...
Ministry spokesman Jean-Francois Bureau said there was "no foundation of truth" to the claim, which was reported on France-Info radio. France Info's reporter in the region said French special forces troops told him that they twice, in 2003 and 2004, had bin Laden "within range" but never got orders to proceed from US commanders overseeing the Enduring Freedom anti-terrorism operation of which French forces were part. The reporter said he twice visited the French forces' base in southern Afghanistan. Defense Ministry officials said, however, that while French forces were under US command, they operated autonomously and did not need permission to fight al-Qaida or Taliban forces.
And they didn't take encouragement, either ...
Posted by: Fred || 12/22/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Did NOT permission [from USA]..." - you just know wine glasses will be shattered, escargots will NOT be eaten, Brigette Bardot will not pet an animal, somewhere everywhere in Paris to-nite.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 12/22/2006 0:58 Comments || Top||

#2  Need the 'Smells Like Bullshit' picture for this one...

done.
Posted by: Raj || 12/22/2006 8:44 Comments || Top||

#3  French deny they missed chance to kill Bin Laden

So I guess this means he's, what, dead?
Posted by: tu3031 || 12/22/2006 8:51 Comments || Top||

#4  In related news: Fuck the French.
Posted by: Excalibur || 12/22/2006 10:25 Comments || Top||

#5  Goodness me! Them boys got lips like .10¢ pickles!


Posted by: Circles it is! || 12/22/2006 16:07 Comments || Top||


Africa Horn
Central Africa on the brink of war - UN
The United Nations' top refugee official said on Thursday an international peacekeeping force in Darfur was essential to prevent the whole of central Africa descending into conflict.

UN High Commissioner for Refugees Antonio Guterres, in Chad on a two-day visit, said the international community faced a titanic task in moving about 230 000 Darfur refugees away from the country's violent border area with Sudan. The east of Chad adjoins Sudan's Darfur region, where a political and ethnic conflict has raged since 2003, killing tens of thousands of people and spilling into neighbouring states. "If the security situation deteriorates, we will have a very serious problem," the former Portuguese prime minister told a news conference.
Posted by: Fred || 12/22/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Maybe the UN could surrender.

Hey, they think that's the solution for civil war in Iraq. Maybe for once the UN could abide by their own principles.
Posted by: badanov || 12/22/2006 0:46 Comments || Top||

#2  "Have a very serious problem" > yeah, like Radical Spetzlamists going after all of Africa's oil fields - you know, why ONCE AGAIN its America, and ONLY America, thats waging "War for Oil".
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 12/22/2006 1:04 Comments || Top||

#3  Brink of war, eh? That would explain all the fighting.
Posted by: SteveS || 12/22/2006 1:56 Comments || Top||

#4  Lol -- Coffee Alert!
Posted by: .com || 12/22/2006 2:00 Comments || Top||

#5  Brink of war, eh? That would explain all the fighting.

Yet another finalist for the Rantburg "Understated Snark of the Week" award ...
Posted by: Steve White || 12/22/2006 8:28 Comments || Top||

#6  Central Africa on the brink of war - UN

UN on brink of irrelevance - Central Africa.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 12/22/2006 11:32 Comments || Top||

#7  You could just take that "Central" outta there.
Makes things easier for everybody...
Posted by: tu3031 || 12/22/2006 11:51 Comments || Top||

#8  Who cares, let em play.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 12/22/2006 16:01 Comments || Top||

#9  The problem for the West involving Africa now is that the recent election in the US put the race hucksters and syncophants in charge of the House and Senate. This will tie the hands of Bush in any dealings with Africa, just as Tony Blair has his hands tied by the Labour Party's anti-Western faction. Unless and until the West decides that Africa needs to have a strong Western-led housecleaning, that continent will continue its downward spiral. The only places in sub-Saharan Africa that have anything resembling stability and economic growth are those that have had direct Western intervention recently. The exception to this had been South Africa, but with the recent rise of the Comrades in the ANC, SA is now doomed to do a Zimbabwe in the near future. Funny that an unreconstructed Communist like Mandela was smart enough to put that aside to grow SA while he was President, but his younger replacements are willing to throw it all away.
Posted by: Shieldwolf || 12/22/2006 19:24 Comments || Top||

#10  Goodness me! Them boys got lips like .10¢ pickles!


Posted by: Circles it is! || 12/22/2006 16:07 Comments || Top||


'Somalis should take part in this struggle'
As shelling continued near the government's garrison town of Baidoa, Sheik Hassan Dahir Aweys called for all Somalis to join the fight against neighboring Ethiopia. "All Somalis should take part in this struggle against Ethiopia," he said. "If you cannot fight you can contribute in other ways to the effort," Aweys said by telephone.
It's pledge week for the Islamist Courts Council!
"You can feed five holy warriors for less than the price of a cup of coffee a day! Operators are standing by."
"Don't make the widow Fatima beg for her ammunition! ..."
Three days of clashes between Islamic fighters and government forces who are backed by Ethiopian troops have left more than 100 people dead. Ethiopia denies its forces are involved in the clashes, but says it has deployed several hundred military advisors trainers in support of the transitional government.

On Wednesday, Aweys told an EU envoy that he was willing to return to peace talks with the Somali transitional government. But on Thursday, he said "the country is in a state of war."

In Ethiopia, the government said in a statement released late Wednesday that the Islamic group was warmongering and not interested in peace. "Ethiopia has exerted efforts as it will do so for the peaceful resolution of the problem in Somalia," the statement said.
"Namely by killing these jokers," the statement added.
In Mogadishu, the capital of Somalia which is controlled by the Islamic group, Muslim leaders said they had killed 70 government soldiers, the majority of them Ethiopians. One was an Ethiopian colonel, senior Islamic leader Sheik Mohamud Ibrahim Suley said. The Islamic group said they suffered seven deaths with 22 injured.

"The war is between Somalia and Ethiopia so the transitional government has to choose between Somalis and Ethiopia," Suley told reporters.

Somalia's deputy defense minister Salad Ali Jelle told reporters that 71 Islamic fighters had been killed and 221 injured so far during clashes in three locations near military training camps around the government garrison town of Baidoa. Two of the bodies were foreign fighters. Three government troops were killed and seven injured, Jelle said. Neither claim could be independently verified.

Separately, witnesses in the town of Bur Haqaba, which is controlled by the Islamic movement, reported hearing mortars, anti-aircraft missiles and rocket-propelled grenades being fired Thursday.

After returning from Somalia late Wednesday, EU envoy Louis Michel said skirmishes were likely to continue for now, but said both sides had broadly agreed to ease tensions, and he believed they were committed to negotiations.
Can't you tell how committed they are to negotiations?
He said the talks would be in Khartoum, the Sudanese capital and another oasis of insanity where several rounds have been held with little progress. No date was given.

Foreign Minister Ismail Hurre said that while his government wanted talks, it did not believe its rivals did. Michel said he had spoken on Tuesday to Ethiopian Prime Minister Meles Zenawi. He said Meles supported his peace initiative, but provided no other details of their conversation. He acknowledged hard-liners and moderates within the Islamic movement have at times differed, but said he believed all factions were behind Wednesday's agreement.

Clashes have erupted 15km from the government garrison town of Baidoa where the EU envoy met with Prime Minister Ali Mohamed Gedi and President Abdullahi Yusuf. As the clashes started, several hundred Ethiopian troops aboard 13 military trucks and with artillery support were deployed to strengthen government forces on the eastern side of the city, a government official said on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the information.

The interim government holds only a small area around the central town of Baidoa. The Islamic militiamen control the capital, Mogadishu, but have also fanned out across most of southern Somalia.
Posted by: Fred || 12/22/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "All Somalis should take part in this struggle against Ethiopia,"

"Plenty of fun for everyone! Chicken-dance!"
Posted by: Pappy || 12/22/2006 9:54 Comments || Top||

#2  I wonder where he gets his Day-Glo henna?
Posted by: tu3031 || 12/22/2006 14:38 Comments || Top||

#3  Goodness me! Them boys got lips like .10¢ pickles!


Posted by: Circles it is! || 12/22/2006 16:08 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Wife of Prince Mohamed Bin Turki Al Saud ordered deported from US
BOSTON (AP) -- A Saudi Arabian princess accused of breaking U.S. immigration laws by locking up her domestics' passports and forcing them to work for low pay was ordered to be deported, prosecutors said Thursday. Hana F. Al Jader of Winchester was sentenced to two years of probation, the first six months of which must be served in home confinement, after which she'll be deported to Saudi Arabia, prosecutors said.
I'm amazed the Saoodis didn't confer diplomatic immunity on her just to avoid the embarrassment.
An after hours call to Samantha Martin, a spokeswoman for the U.S. attorney's office, was not returned. It was unclear if the six months' home confinement Al Jader received included time she has already served while on bail in home confinement.

U.S. District Judge Reginald J. Lindsay also sentenced Al Jader, 40, to pay $206,000 in restitution to three of her former domestic servants, pay a $40,000 fine, and perform 100 hours of community service. Lindsay also sentenced Al Jader to forfeit a second residence in Arlington.

In September, Al Jader pleaded guilty to two counts of visa fraud for lying on immigration forms, and two counts of harboring an alien for keeping the two women at her house though she knew their visas had expired. In a deal with prosecutors, six counts of forced labor were dropped in exchange for guilty pleas on the other charges.

Prosecutors alleged that Al Jader forced two domestic servants from Indonesia to work long hours, while holding their passports in a safe. Al Jader submitted fraudulent forms to the U.S. Embassy in Saudi Arabia guaranteeing the women would work eight hours daily for $1,500 a month, they charged. The women were actually paid just $300 per month after arriving in February 2003 to cook, clean and care for Al Jader's disabled husband and their children.

A phone message left after hours Thursday to Al Jader's attorney, Joseph Balliro Sr., was not returned.

Al Jader and her husband, Prince Mohamed Bin Turki Al Saud, have lived in Winchester and Arlington since the mid-1990s, when the couple came to the United States to obtain medical and rehabilitation treatment for injuries the prince suffered in an auto accident.
Now he'll have to travel to London for his medical care and rehab; for sure the Brits aren't in any mood to deny a Saoodi anything at all ...
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 12/22/2006 01:43 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ...when the couple came to the United States to obtain medical and rehabilitation treatment for injuries the prince suffered in an auto accident.

Here are some crutches; now get the fuck out!
Posted by: Mass. General Hospital || 12/22/2006 8:41 Comments || Top||

#2  Joseph Balliro Sr. Big local mob lawyer.
Looks like he just switched from Italians to Saudis after the Feds rolled up the local goombas.
Posted by: tu3031 || 12/22/2006 8:56 Comments || Top||

#3  Apparently another unresolved Saudi prince's "Drive in the Desert".
Posted by: john || 12/22/2006 9:08 Comments || Top||

#4  Probably a mental block. After all, you don't ask for diplomatic immunity for goats or cattle, so why wimmen?
Posted by: Jackal || 12/22/2006 9:09 Comments || Top||

#5  Lindsay also sentenced Al Jader to forfeit a second residence in Arlington.

That's the real fine.
Posted by: Shipman || 12/22/2006 10:15 Comments || Top||

#6  "...and perform 100 hours of community service."

How do you perform community service while under house arrest. Anyways, I'm sure her mosque time will count.
Posted by: Penguin || 12/22/2006 10:35 Comments || Top||

#7  Some light is shed upon why Turki flew the coop. (As it were.)
Posted by: Zenster || 12/22/2006 11:50 Comments || Top||

#8  I think it's a different bird.
Posted by: Shipman || 12/22/2006 12:56 Comments || Top||

#9  Good. Bugger off bitch. And take a few more ragheads with you.
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 12/22/2006 14:34 Comments || Top||

#10  Goodness me! Them boys got lips like .10¢ pickles!


Posted by: Circles it is! || 12/22/2006 16:08 Comments || Top||


Talk in Saudi Arabia turns to 'Iranian threat'
This is one of those stories where I get all conflicted. Sorta like a big Saudi "Doh!" Do I want 'em to figure things out, protect themselves? Or would I cheer if they wuz incinerated, kinda like they did all over the Muzzy Werld on 9/11... Tough call.
RIYADH: At a late-night reading earlier this week, a self-styled poet held up his hand for silence and began a riff on the events in neighboring Iraq, in the old style of Bedouin storytellers.

"Saddam Hussein was a real leader who deserved our support," he began, making up the lines as he went. "He kept Iraq stable and peaceful," he added, "And most of all he fought back the Iranians."

Across the kingdom, in both official and casual conversation, once quiet concern over the chaos in Iraq and Iran's growing regional influence has burst into the open. Saudi newspapers now openly decry Iran's growing power. Religious leaders have begun talking about a "Persian onslaught" that threatens the existence of Islam itself. In the salons of Riyadh, the "Iranian threat" is raised almost as openly and as frequently as the stock market.
They've noticed, how quaint.
"Iran has become more dangerous than Israel itself," said Sheik Musa bin Abdulaziz, editor of Al Salafi magazine, a self-described moderate in the Salafi fundamentalist Muslim movement that seeks to return Islam to its roots. "The Iranian revolution has come to renew the Persian presence in the region. This is the real clash of civilizations."
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Posted by: .com || 12/22/2006 01:24 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Not only did they not blame the Jews, they are beginning to find common ground with them. Wonders will never cease.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 12/22/2006 2:02 Comments || Top||

#2  Getting nervous about the Iranian talk of taking over Mecca and points east?
Posted by: ed || 12/22/2006 9:31 Comments || Top||

#3  "And most of all he fought back the Iranians."

Is that how it's presented in Soddy aRabida? From what I remember, Iraq attacked Iran. The war lasted 8 years and killed a couple of hundred thousand people, crippled over a million, and resulted in a stalemate. Seems like it's not just the Jooos who are targets of Soddy distrust, but most of the rest of the world as well. Oh, well! Red on red is always good.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 12/22/2006 11:40 Comments || Top||

#4  HOLY SHIT!
Finally, somebody besides us gets it!
Posted by: bigim-ky || 12/22/2006 11:58 Comments || Top||

#5  I'm telling you...we ought to pull everything we have out of the middle east. Then sell all of parties...shia and sunni...all the weapons they want...at a discount.
Posted by: anymouse || 12/22/2006 15:32 Comments || Top||

#6  CLINTONISM > anti-Unitarian Unitarianism [NPE] > iff it works for Clintonian America = Amerika, USA = USSA/SSR-USR and Amerika's mainstream sacred National Communism-Socialism, why not for our enemies??? Even iff Islam = Judaism?, still have to verify what lies for USA, ME Democracy, + World, etc. at the end of the road.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 12/22/2006 23:10 Comments || Top||

#7  Goodness me! Them boys got lips like .10¢ pickles!


Posted by: Circles it is! || 12/22/2006 16:08 Comments || Top||


Next US Saudi envoy is king's ex-foreign advisor
Saudi Arabia's next ambassador to the United States will be Adel al-Jubeir, a young US-educated diplomat who was drafted by the now-king in 2001 to repair a Saudi image in America that had been shattered by the Sept. 11 attacks.
I'm not sure if Adel makes me think of a weasel or a skunk. He hisses when he's lying. He hisses a lot.
I'm fine with his appointment, 'cos it means RB gets to use this pic some more:
A Saudi source said Thursday that al-Jubeir, who was foreign affairs adviser to King Abdullah when he was crown prince, will be appointed at the end of January or early in February. The Washington Post reported that the State Department already has been informed of the impending appointment.
I'll bet they're just happy as a whole bucket of clams.
Saudi Arabia has had only two ambassadors in the past 23 years: Prince Bandar bin Sultan, who left 1 1/2 years ago after 22 years and now is the Saudi national security adviser; and Prince Turki al-Faisal, who quit this month after 15 months on the job. Al-Jubeir, a commoner, was educated in Texas, at North Texas University, and in Washington at Georgetown University. A month after the 2001 attacks, in which 15 of the 19 Arab hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, Abdullah sent al-Jubeir to the United States on an open-ended mission to rebuild Saudi Arabia's image in the United States.
Posted by: Fred || 12/22/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Maybe I missed this, but why did Prince Bandar get called home in the first place? He was extremely well set up. I can't imagine he went home of his own volition.
Posted by: Classical_Liberal || 12/22/2006 0:29 Comments || Top||

#2  I'll throw out a conjecture based on my limited experience with the Magic Kingdom.

The Sauds always been about influencing those in power, those behind the power, and those coming into power. Bandar wasn't effective with the current administration. Faisal was brought in as the bad-guy to express the Sauds' displeasure.

Now they're back to doing damage control. It's a young US-educated commoner diplomat this time. Guess which group they'll be working on?
Posted by: Pappy || 12/22/2006 1:13 Comments || Top||

#3  Any word about the Turki? He left in one heck of a hurry. A very quiet PNG maybe?
Posted by: PBMcL || 12/22/2006 1:15 Comments || Top||

#4  Bandar left just before they unplugged ol' King Fahd's icemaker. The Burg speculation was that he went home to shore up his power base in the incoming Abdullah administration.

Turki was essentially fired, we think 'cos he blabbed too much about Saudi intentions vis a vis Iraq.
Posted by: Seafarious || 12/22/2006 7:53 Comments || Top||

#5  Separated at birth - Adel & Sal from Dog Day Afternoon:

Posted by: Raj || 12/22/2006 8:49 Comments || Top||

#6  Hey! I could do things! I could be ambassador! I'm schmart!
Posted by: Fredo al-Jubeir || 12/22/2006 9:01 Comments || Top||

#7  How many of you remember who Adel al-Jubeir is? He's one of the most rabid Islamic liars supporting the Saud's funding of Muslim terrorist.

So why the hell are we letting this camel bag in our country!

Spit.
Posted by: Icerigger || 12/22/2006 9:19 Comments || Top||

#8  He prolly got the job so he could make sure U.S. mosques that are sending money to terrorists aren't skimming the plate.
Posted by: Mike N. || 12/22/2006 9:55 Comments || Top||

#9  I'm not sure if Adel makes me think of a weasel or a skunk.

I get the impression of a polecat - about half and half. I hope he has an "industrial accident" before he shows up. I'm beginning to think allowing anyone in from the magic kingdom is detrimental to the security and interests of the United States.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 12/22/2006 11:44 Comments || Top||

#10  Goodness me! Them boys got lips like .10¢ pickles!


Posted by: Circles it is! || 12/22/2006 16:08 Comments || Top||


Britain
U.K. Faces `Unparalleled' Terror Threat, Police Say
Not too seem cynical, but terror is the least threatening weapon of islam, at least when Europe is concerned... all it amounts to is the traditional arab rezzou aimed at weakening and harassing the neighboring kufr countries.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 12/22/2006 13:11 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  On July 7, 2005, four British Muslims blew themselves up on London's transport network, killing 52 people.

They have MAJOR problems brewing from within the UK. They seem to still be mostly worried tho about the threats from abroad. Refer back to last weeks article about the new most popular name for babies now - Mohammed replaces George at #1. Pretty scary. As so aptly put by my former Serbian housekeeper, Muslims have 6 or 8 children while everyone else has 1,2 or 3. She watched her country's demographics completely change in a couple of decades.
Posted by: Intrinsicpilot || 12/22/2006 13:27 Comments || Top||

#2  "I think we must find methods to let them take off the veil that is dignified, said Blair. We need to provide them with facilities."

I know Blair has been a stand-up guy and has to say the PC crappola but you ever read a quote like this and get the feeling he pines for the good old days of short pants eating crumpets by his mums knees?
Posted by: DepotGuy || 12/22/2006 14:33 Comments || Top||

#3  Hard to say Milosevic was 'right', but pragmatically, we might should have left things alone over there.
Posted by: Glenmore || 12/22/2006 14:54 Comments || Top||

#4  Eurabia and its socialist governments a time bomb ticking....
Posted by: Theth Grinemble9113 || 12/22/2006 15:59 Comments || Top||

#5  What's the deal with "Circles it is?"
Posted by: JohnQC || 12/22/2006 16:58 Comments || Top||

#6  RCK
Posted by: gromgoru || 12/22/2006 17:38 Comments || Top||

#7  Goodness me! Them boys got lips like .10¢ pickles!


Posted by: Circles it is! || 12/22/2006 16:08 Comments || Top||


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Come to Chechnya, it's really dangerous
Fancy a holiday with a difference? Ramzan Kadyrov, the Moscow-backed warlord who became prime minister of Chechnya last year, has declared the lawless province open for tourism.

Twelve years of intermittent but brutal war may have all but devastated it, flattening its capital, Grozny, and destroying what little tourist infrastructure there was.

But that failed to deter Mr Kadyrov yesterday from revealing his dream of welcoming Western tourists to a region synonymous with kidnapping.

Until the hotels were rebuilt, his government said, tourists wanting to holiday in Chechnya could always camp. Mr Kadyrov's drive to "create interest for tourist visits", drew a lukewarm response from the British travel industry, with leading tour operators saying it was unlikely that Chechnya would be included in their 2007 or even 2008 brochures.

Although the Russian government, which has twice invaded the province to quell uprisings, insists the war is over, a small band of rebels in the southern mountains begs to differ.

Gun battles are common and kidnappings, though less frequent of late, still occur with alarming regularity. The Foreign Office warns against all travel to Chechnya, saying that Westerners are particularly vulnerable to abduction. Three Britons were seized and executed in Dec 1998.

More recently, Mr Kadyrov's army of irregulars have taken to sticking the severed heads of enemies on stakes in at least one village.

Chechnya is also not famed for its natural attractions but Salman Dalakov, the deputy tourism minister, insisted that Chechnya had many sights: "It is like Switzerland, only without the roads."
YJCMTSU.
Posted by: .com || 12/22/2006 00:43 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Roumania's got mountains without roads too, and less wacko-Muzzie kidnappers (they mostly stick to the old mafia style kidnappings.)
Posted by: Glenmore || 12/22/2006 8:02 Comments || Top||

#2  ...You know, the Russians make a mint off of selling MiG-25 and -31 rides, they should offer 'Terrorist Hunting In Chechnya' packages...now THAT would be tourism.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 12/22/2006 9:05 Comments || Top||

#3  Sorry, Ramzan, but me and the wife already booked Waziristan for this year.
We'll...ummmmmmmm...keep you in mind...
Posted by: tu3031 || 12/22/2006 9:05 Comments || Top||

#4  Colorado's got mountains, and I don't have to endure a long jet ride, hassles with airport security and customs, a different language, and poor food. Heck, I might even stray into nearby Utah!
Posted by: Old Patriot || 12/22/2006 11:46 Comments || Top||

#5  Easy OP...there's them thar fundumetalists in Utah. Might want to think twice afore you stray into their patch. Now they ain't violent, but before you know it they'll have you married up with a whole passle of kids underfoot. I seen it and it ain't pretty. No sir, not pretty at all.
Posted by: remoteman || 12/22/2006 13:15 Comments || Top||

#6  OP - but Colorado's getting all filled up with them Californicators.
Posted by: Glenmore || 12/22/2006 14:55 Comments || Top||

#7  Besides if you want spooky and interesting, the Carpathian Mountians and Transylvania are the way to go. A historical bonus is that you get to hang out in Vlad Tepisc's old stomping grounds : you may know him as the historical Dracula, or his other name, Vlad the Impaler.
He seemed to have NO issues with local Muslims rioting in his towns, back in the days.
Posted by: Shieldwolf || 12/22/2006 19:12 Comments || Top||

#8  Goodness me! Them boys got lips like .10¢ pickles!


Posted by: Circles it is! || 12/22/2006 16:08 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
NKorean nuclear talks end in deadlock, finger-pointing
Surrrrrrrprise surprise surprise...
BEIJING (AFP) - Six-nation talks aimed at persuading North Korea to give up its nuclear arms program closed in deadlock, with the United States and the North blaming each other for the impasse.

The latest round of talks wrapped up after five days of meetings with no progress made and no date set for another round.

The negotiations snagged on North Korea's refusal to engage in substantive discussions until the United States lifted financial sanctions imposed last year which have frozen millions of dollars of North Korean funds in a Macau bank.

North Korea's chief negotiator Kim Kye-Gwan blamed a "hostile" US policy toward Pyongyang for the failure of the talks."I feel the United States has not yet decided to lift sanctions and abandon its hostile policy against us," Kim told a press conference after the talks ended."It is clear who should be responsible for the failure to have substantive discussions."

The six nations -- China, the two Koreas, the United States, Japan and Russia -- had resumed the intermittent, three-year-old forum this week hoping to make real progress toward a denuclearized Korean peninsula.

But following its first-ever atomic test on October 9, an emboldened North Korea unveiled a long list of demands at the opening of the talks, which it had boycotted for the previous 13 months.

The chief US envoy to the talks, Christopher Hill, placed the blame squarely on North Korea, accusing its envoy of not having the authority to negotiate on the nuclear issue."Certainly we expected him to have the authority to negotiate on the six-party talks. We also had the expectation that BDA (frozen North Korean accounts in Macau's Banco Delta Asia) would be addressed in a separate mechanism that the treasury department on our side was handling. The DPRK (North Korea) had made a point that they wanted the financial issue to be discussed and resolved, but there was never an agreement or understanding that that had to be done ... in the first round of renewed six-party talks."

Hill said he was "disappointed that we did not come out with a clear agreement" but was confident of talks resuming soon. "We are talking weeks, not months," he said."We'll see where we are and try to regroup and see if we can go in the next few weeks."

Earlier Friday, Hill had said North Korea had refused to consider undisclosed US proposals to end the crisis earlier in the week.

Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe called Friday for the world to unite to pressure North Korea."The international community needs to unite and implement the UN resolution in order to lead North Korea to take specific actions," Abe said, referring to UN sanctions triggered by the October test explosion."The North Koreans need to realize that they won't solve such problems as the serious food issue -- in which many of its people suffer from a shortage of daily food -- unless they solve (the nuclear issue)."

However in remarks released on Friday, South Korean President Roh Moo-Hyun accused the United States of being partly to blame for the standoff. Roh said the United States wrecked a six-party deal struck in September last year in which the North agreed to give up its nuclear program in return for security guarantees and aid. He said the United States' imposition of the financial sanctions just a few days before that deal angered the North, and suggested the timing may not have been a coincidence. "If you look at it in a bad light, you may say (the two US departments) were playing a pre-arranged game," he said, in reference to the US State Department, which is involved in the six-party talks, and Treasury, which imposed the sanctions.

In a closing statement at the end of the talks, China's delegate Wu Dawei said only that the six participants had recommitted to previous broad goals. "The parties... reaffirmed their common goal and will to achieve the peaceful goal of denuclearization of the Korean peninsula through dialogue," he said.

Aside from the US financial sanctions issue, North Korea this week demanded the lifting of the separate UN sanctions and insisted on aid to build a nuclear reactor for power.

North Korea's envoy Kim said defiantly on Friday that Pyongyang would not back down from its demand that the financial sanctions be lifted. "The United States is applying both carrots and sticks in parallel. We stand up to the US with dialogue and a shield, the shield being a strengthening of our (military) deterrent," he said.
Posted by: tu3031 || 12/22/2006 12:21 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  However in remarks released on Friday, South Korean President Roh Moo-Hyun accused the United States of being partly to blame for the standoff.

It's Bush's Fault - how original...
Posted by: Raj || 12/22/2006 12:40 Comments || Top||

#2  Everyone who is surprised by any of this please raise your hand. So we can all hoot and jeer at you.
Posted by: SteveS || 12/22/2006 13:07 Comments || Top||

#3  well i for one am shocked and feel very pointed at by fingers.

/i have no idea..
Posted by: RD || 12/22/2006 13:10 Comments || Top||

#4  Don't think of this as failed talks; instead think of it as the next step in a UN sponsored jobs program.
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 12/22/2006 13:57 Comments || Top||

#5  The violated every condition in the agreements between them and the Clinton Admin. They are beyond trusting, and if they came to the table they must be in a hurt.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 12/22/2006 15:38 Comments || Top||

#6 
This is probably one place where we should send Kerry.
Posted by: Master of Obvious || 12/22/2006 18:10 Comments || Top||

#7  This is probably one place from which we should withdraw and publicly state our intention never to send troops to again.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 12/22/2006 18:15 Comments || Top||

#8  now, now, to be truly accurate MSM > ITS TEXAS STATE GOVERNATOR DUBYA'S FAULT.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 12/22/2006 21:26 Comments || Top||

#9  Goodness me! Them boys got lips like .10¢ pickles!


Posted by: Circles it is! || 12/22/2006 16:09 Comments || Top||


Japan: 'No prospect' for breakthrough with NKorea
Japan's chief envoy to North Korea nuclear talks said Thursday that North Korea's refusal to disarm before US financial restrictions are lifted meant there were no prospects for an agreement on dismantling the communist state's weapons. "The situation remains severe and there is no prospect for a breakthrough," Kenichiro Sasae said after the fourth day of six-nation talks in Beijing. "North Korea's claims and its position on financial issues are very firm and that is the biggest cause of the difficulty."
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#1  Who cares if the Japanese are crazy xenophobes with weird fetishes? It's wonderful to have an ally in this part of the world that doesn't triangulate against us at every turn.
Posted by: Classical_Liberal || 12/22/2006 0:25 Comments || Top||

#2  US envoy to Six-Party Talks has essens reiterated the same. Guess we'll have to find out next FEBRUARY, 2007 when Radical Iran will celebrate its surreal "nuclear victory". IRNA/ISA/FARSI NEWS > In short, IRAN = nothing will stop it from achieving FULL NUCLEAR CYCLE. *JPOST > ONLY MILITARY ACTION CAN STOP IRAN.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 12/22/2006 0:50 Comments || Top||

#3  Time to add some "pixie dust" to Kim's next shipment of cognac.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 12/22/2006 11:48 Comments || Top||

#4  If by "Pixie Dust" you mean Polonium 210, I agree
Posted by: Angaimble Thairt5813 || 12/22/2006 11:54 Comments || Top||

#5  Goodness me! Them boys got lips like .10¢ pickles!


Posted by: Circles it is! || 12/22/2006 16:09 Comments || Top||


N.Korea nuclear talks head into final day
Talks aimed at persuading North Korea to abandon its nuclear weapons program headed into a final day on Friday, with officials holding out little hope of reaching a deal on first steps toward that goal.

Negotiators said they wanted to focus on a September 2005 agreement that offered the North aid and security guarantees in return for disarmament, but Pyongyang remained preoccupied with getting U.S. financial curbs against it lifted. "Our goal is denuclearisation. Period," chief U.S. envoy Christopher Hill told reporters on Friday morning, before heading out to meet the Chinese. "They need to show some seriousness of purpose on denuclearisation."

The talks, which group the two Koreas, the United States, China, Japan and Russia, are the first in more than a year and are taking place in the shadow of the North's first nuclear test on October 9.

Hill questioned just how seriously North Korea wanted to talk about the nuclear issue, saying they seem to be avoiding the question. "One day it's financial issues, another day it's something they want but know they can't have, another day it was something that was said that hurt their feelings. It's one thing after the other," he said. Hill said he would head home on Saturday, agreement or not, but was unsure about if or when talks could resume.
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#1  A nice little piece of psych-war, we can use the media too it seems.
Posted by: bigim-ky || 12/22/2006 12:03 Comments || Top||

#2  Goodness me! Them boys got lips like .10¢ pickles!


Posted by: Circles it is! || 12/22/2006 16:09 Comments || Top||


Down Under
Aussies outraged at overturning of Bali bomb conviction
SYDNEY - Families of Australian victims of the 2002 Bali bomb blast expressed outrage and disgust Friday at an Indonesian decision to overturn the conviction of a militant Muslim cleric linked to the plot.

Prime Minister John Howard said he was upset for the families of the 88 Australians who died in the explosions, but said Canberra could not change ThursdayĀ’s ruling by a judge that cleared firebrand cleric Abu Bakar Bashir.

Ā‘Of course it is the court system of another country and we canĀ’t change that,Ā’ Howard said. Ā‘But it doesnĀ’t stop us feeling upset and I know there will be a feeling of anger on the part on the parents and loved ones and I am feeling for them this morning very much,Ā’ he told Channel Nine news.

The prime minister also pointed out that while Bashir had been convicted of organising the attack, those who detonated the bombs that killed 202 people in a nightclub and a bar had been convicted and were awaiting the death penalty.

Bashir, 68, was released from jail in June after serving nearly 26 months for his role in a Ā‘sinister conspiracyĀ’ that led to the Bali bombings.
Posted by: Steve White || 12/22/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ...had been convicted and were awaiting the death penalty.

We'll believe it when you send us the corpses. And Bashir needs to have a terrible accident soon.
Posted by: PBMcL || 12/22/2006 1:23 Comments || Top||

#2  Bashir is the poster boy for why a program of extra judicial assassination against Islamist figureheads must begin immediately. A hidden Osama bin Laden simply cannot wield the sort of influence that Bashir is able to summon through his public appearance. As Bashir's counterpart in the Middle East, only Nasrallah approaches the same sort of popularity and direct complicity in terrorist activity.

Dispatching either of these two in the midst of a very public anti-Western tirade would go a long way towards putting Islamists on notice that their days are numbered. Just eliminating a bare dozen or two of these extremely venomous individuals could shift the entire course of fighting terrorism.

Promptly capping Bashir immediately after this abortion of justice would be one of the best possible messages to send the worldwide terrorist community.
Posted by: Zenster || 12/22/2006 2:37 Comments || Top||

#3  Did you know that most fatal accidents occur in the home?
It would be a shame if Bashir slipped in the bathtub and suffered massive, massive 9mm head injuries...
Posted by: tu3031 || 12/22/2006 9:10 Comments || Top||

#4  The old marbles in the bathtub trick. Remember to get 'em all out afterwards tho.
Posted by: Shipman || 12/22/2006 10:18 Comments || Top||

#5  Shipman and tu3031,

Hmmm. Good idea. I like how you think. However, did Mohammed (bees pee upon him) take baths? Or showers? I doubt it. So Bashir probably doesn't bathe either. You will have to find another method. Of course there are all kinds of fatal accidents just waiting to happen at home.
Posted by: Rambler || 12/22/2006 11:10 Comments || Top||

#6  He accidentally fell on a knife. Thirty times.
Posted by: JFM || 12/22/2006 11:31 Comments || Top||

#7  What's that sound I hear outside my window?

Oh, yes...I recognize it now.

It's the sound of muslims laughing at the infidels.

Posted by: Mark Z || 12/22/2006 11:59 Comments || Top||

#8  My personal choice is a nuclear-tipped Tomahawk into his "madrassa" about 3AM on a Friday morning. Leave nothing to chance. Also leave no doubt who sent the "surprise package". We WANT the islamonutz to know we're out after them, and anybody that raises his head up too far will have it knocked off. Might also slam the Indonesian "supreme court jestersjudges" for their idiotic decision.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 12/22/2006 12:08 Comments || Top||

#9  Rambler,
Since you brought up Mohammed, the same method that saw him off might be appropriate.
Posted by: tipper || 12/22/2006 18:08 Comments || Top||

#10  Poisoned by a "Jewess," eh? "Muhammad ate some of the poisoned lamb and died as a result three years later."

Forgive me for being skeptical, but that's according to Islamic sources. So Muslims didn't simply blame the nearest Jew, they pioneered forensic toxicology 1200 years before the French did. LOL.
Posted by: exJAG || 12/22/2006 19:43 Comments || Top||

#11  yep: CSI - Filthy Tent
Posted by: Frank G || 12/22/2006 20:44 Comments || Top||

#12  I think this guy should be allowed to live. A nice quiet rendition to some isolated place down under where he can enjoy such great stress relief events like water boarding and enjoy all the pork chops any one man can be forced to eat. He can die isolated, old, and forgotten.
Posted by: 49 Pan || 12/22/2006 21:37 Comments || Top||

#13  Goodness me! Them boys got lips like .10¢ pickles!


Posted by: Circles it is! || 12/22/2006 16:09 Comments || Top||


Europe
EU October terror exercise causes confusion in Helsinki
A European Union disaster exercise organised in Brussels in October caused considerable confusion in Helsinki, and could potentially have had embarrassing consequences.

On the afternoon of October 30th, Foreign Minister Erkki Tuomioja received an SMS message in the middle of a press conference according to which terror attacks had targeted five large cities in the EU, and that a 9/11 type attack using aircraft had taken place against London. The text message came from the EU's Joint Situation Centre or SitCen. Finland's status as the holder of the EU Presidency meant that the same message also went to dozens of Finnish civil servants.

The message reportedly stated that terror attacks had been launched against the business district of Frankfurt, and against Vienna, and that a plane en route to Finland had been hijacked.
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Posted by: mrp || 12/22/2006 10:02 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  the various bodies of the European Union issued a common press release according to which there is a "need to improve understand the use of communications technology".

There, that's better...
Posted by: Raj || 12/22/2006 11:27 Comments || Top||

#2  Exercise CCA EX06 was the first of its kind, and its purpose was to test the ability of the European Council - a body that represents the member states of the EU - and the European Commission to react to a major crisis.

Sounds like it went real well...
Posted by: tu3031 || 12/22/2006 11:55 Comments || Top||

#3  Goodness me! Them boys got lips like .10¢ pickles!


Posted by: Circles it is! || 12/22/2006 16:09 Comments || Top||


Kurdish militant group "Turkish Hezbollah" issuing terror threats
A Kurdish Islamic militant group with reported ties to al-Qaida is re-emerging in Turkey after six years underground Ā— and has started issuing vague but worrying threats, authorities say. Turkish Hezbollah's rise parallels developments across the broader Muslim world, where the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Lebanon are believed to have served as powerful recruiting tools for radical Islamic groups.

Turkish Hezbollah, which takes its name from the better-known Lebanon-based Hezbollah but has no formal links to it, was largely eradicated six years ago when its leader was killed and more than 6,000 of its members were arrested in a massive police crackdown. Like the Lebanese Hezbollah, the Turkish group allegedly is backed by Iran. Turkish authorities now say they are witnessing a rise in its activities, but they are proceeding cautiously out of fears that in today's charged atmosphere, a harsh crackdown could inspire even more young Muslims to join its ranks.

The group's growing influence has drawn attention to the Turkish government's precarious position: it must contain radical Islamic elements as part of its dream of joining the European Union, yet must also take care not to be seen as selling out to the West.
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Great White North
Harper won't talk to Hamas, Hezbollah
Prime Minister Stephen Harper says Canada wonĀ’t talk with Hamas and Hezbollah, describing the two Islamic groups as Ā“genocidal.Ā” However, in a CTV interview to be aired Saturday, Harper acknowledged the need for dialogue in solving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. He says itĀ’s impossible to negotiate with groups that advocate violence and want to wipe out Israel.

Harper says under previous governments, Canada has been Ā“completely absentĀ” in Mideast peace efforts, rather than playing the role as a neutral, honest broker. He says his government wants to find ways of dealing with the Palestinian Authority through President Mahmoud Abbas, who belongs to the secular Fatah party. Harper has been criticized for his staunch support of Israel after his election and again this summer during IsraelĀ’s bombardment of Lebanon.
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Home Front: Politix
Ellison: Lawmaker has 'a lot to learn about Islam'
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Virginia lawmaker criticized for writing an "Islamophobic" letter to his constituents would be wise to learn more about Islam, the first Muslim elected to Congress said Thursday.

Democratic Minnesota Rep.-elect Keith Ellison, the first Muslim elected to Congress, said Goode should learn more about Islam.
Minnesota Rep.-elect Keith Ellison told CNN that he is not angry about a letter Virginia Rep. Virgil Goode wrote that said Ellison should not be allowed to place his hand on the Quran during his unofficial swearing in ceremony. "I think the diversity of our country is a great strength," Ellison told CNN's Wolf Blitzer. "It's a good thing that we have people from all faiths and all cultures to come here." (Watch Ellison play down Quran flap )

Goode wrote that to "preserve the values and beliefs traditional to the United States," an immigration overhaul was necessary to avoid "many more Muslims elected to office demanding the use of the Quran." Defending his statements Thursday, Goode, a Republican, told Fox News he wants to limit legal immigration. He also said he wants to do away with "diversity visas," which he said allowed people into America "not from European countries" and "some terrorist states."

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Posted by: .com || 12/22/2006 02:39 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Agrees the Virginia lawmaker has a lot to learn but not in the sense that idiot/Saudi_paid politician means.
Posted by: JFM || 12/22/2006 4:19 Comments || Top||

#2  I don't get it. After 9/11, people said we should try to understand Muslims. So I asked two Muslim friends (one Egyptian, and one Iranian): "what's the deal?" Never heard from them again.

So I started reading: current events, culture, history, theology. I learned about the selv-serving pedophile prophet, the caravan raids, wars of conquest, shari'a law, dhimmitude, taqiyya, jizya, rapes, beatings, beheadings, slavery, slain teachers, and burned-down churches and libraries. Yes, there are brief periods where the butchers take a break from the limb-hacking and pillaging. But I still had to conclude that Islam is more satanic than satanism, and every further bit I learn only confirms it.

Now, more and more Muslims say I should learn more about Islam. Okay, so I continue to read just about everything I can get my hands on, and the only new information I find is yet more grotesque, inhuman atrocities. The more I learn, the more I want to see this cancer eradicated from the face of the earth.

So I don't understand why Muslims say we should learn more -- as if we're going to find a pony under the tremendous pile of horseshit. Why do they say it? Seems to me they're taking a big gamble that we'll turn to CAIR or Karen Armstrong and not Ibn Warraq, Robert Spencer, or Sura 9.
Posted by: exJAG || 12/22/2006 5:21 Comments || Top||

#3  Very likely Virgil Goode, like many of us, learned everything worth knowing about Islam on the morning of September 11, 2001. In my case, that day merely refreshed my memory of what I had already learned long before that.

We will have no peace until Islam is eradicated. So long as it exists, it will constitute a menace not just to our freedom, but to our very existence.

Posted by: Dave D. || 12/22/2006 8:04 Comments || Top||

#4  We will have no peace until Islam is eradicated

Accurately diagnosed. Islam is a diseased 7th century warmongering death cult, utterly incompatible with modern society.
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 12/22/2006 9:04 Comments || Top||

#5  As a Minnesotan I'm sickened by this fuvking fraud. I'm also sickened at the Islamic ass kissing going on over at Michelle Malkin's hotair.com. What the shit is going on with pathetic conservatives defending Muslims, Islam and Ellision?

What part of the quran's call to convert, murder or enslave us all don't they get?! Criticizing "moderate" muslims over on hotair will get you banned. Allahpundit and his like are completely part of the west's problem. Clearly these fools don't give a shit about our future. They are completely devoid of any historical reference regarding the complete and total violent roots of Muhammad's desert terrorist cult.

Would they defend Ellison taking the oath on MEIN KAMPF???! Hell no! But they still defend Ellison as a moderate CAIR Muslim bell fellow. So my question of Allahpundit and other fools of similar veins, what is "moderate" about a book written by a pedophile who demanded murder of his political enemies and promoted terrorism and common theft?

What is refreshing is to find people who have taken the time to learn about Islam from its own sources. ExJag and Zen come to mind.

In the mean time fuvk Ellison and his chanting Allen Ackbarned supporters. Allahpundick included. I'm in New York right now and you know something Allah, you need to go visit the hole and see where thousands of Americans learned about Islam the hard way you worthless prick.
Posted by: Icerigger || 12/22/2006 9:13 Comments || Top||

#6  ...a lot to learn about Islam

...there's really nothing to fear

...they are here to support and strengthen America

...there is nothing to be afraid of

...we should find ways for common ground.


...you are getting very sleepy. Watch my mouth. You are getting very sleepy...
Posted by: tu3031 || 12/22/2006 9:17 Comments || Top||

#7  I think we all know "all we need to" about this pure evil called Islam. Every once in a while, Oct 3rd, Sept 11, etc... we are reminded of what we know about Islam and that it is the direct opposite of Christian and American values. Now through the lost soul of this Minn Congressman we must allow true evil into our house. Next step for him will be to force Congress to break 5 times a day for prayers and to pass laws supporting Sharia law in Islamic communities.

I laughed when Minn voted in a WWF wrestler as the Gov and when Abby Hoffman got an award from that state even though he was wanted by the feds, but this has gone too far. Minn shoud be ashamed of what they have brought to Washington DC to represent them. This will not be a Congress of issues over the economy or defence or health care. It will be about the Islamafication of congress. He will start making small demands and then build on our good nature. Saying things like we need to learn more about Islam and how great America is because it is so diverse. I have been to a great number of Islamic run countries and not one is peacefull, I'm not sure if there is one on this planet. This is wrong on so many levels it just makes me sick.
Posted by: 49 Pan || 12/22/2006 10:12 Comments || Top||

#8  I agree with Keith...we need to learn more...just like about cancer. The quicker we learn the faster it can be eradicated before it metasticizes too far..

faster please....
Posted by: Warthog || 12/22/2006 10:29 Comments || Top||

#9  As a Wiccan, if elected, I will slit the throat of a goat as testament to my faithfulness to the country.
Posted by: Penguin || 12/22/2006 10:50 Comments || Top||

#10  If there is a God, Keith Allahson will be a one term congressmen.
Posted by: Mike N. || 12/22/2006 11:05 Comments || Top||

#11  ExJag: So I started reading: current events, culture, history, theology. I learned about the selv-serving pedophile prophet, the caravan raids, wars of conquest, shari'a law, dhimmitude, taqiyya, jizya, rapes, beatings, beheadings, slavery, slain teachers, and burned-down churches and libraries. Yes, there are brief periods where the butchers take a break from the limb-hacking and pillaging. But I still had to conclude that Islam is more satanic than satanism, and every further bit I learn only confirms it.

request, does anyone have a link for the nifty civilization flash map posted a couple of weeks ago [assoiated with a *fjordman thread if i remember correctly]
Posted by: RD || 12/22/2006 11:28 Comments || Top||

#12  Icerigger,
You may have expounded on this before, but what sort of district elected this POS ? Is this the area where all these Somali scum suckers hole up ? How did these assholes get to Minnesota anyway ? Surely, most are here illegally. Can't a raid be put together? Who else would vote this jerk into office ?
Posted by: SpecOp35 || 12/22/2006 12:03 Comments || Top||

#13  Spec. I'll try and give you the best run down I can. Mike should be able to do even better as I'm a bit north of the shit pile.

Minneapolis is in Hennepin county. That county has a welfare rule not letting their workers ask the civil status of anyone crawling in asking for money. Hence the Somalians. There have been a number of Muslim terrorist cells and drug dealers found in the Somalians. Heaven knows I don't need to go into the Minneapolis airport taxi cab driver BS. So that is one side of it.

But keep in mind how insanely liberal Moscow on the Mississippi river is. They hate Bush. The liberals hate him so much that they were willing to vote Keith Allahson (good one Mike) in. 1 he's not white, 2 he's not a Christian, 3 he's a mooslum, 4 the local media refused to do any stories on him and his connections with muslime radical cop killers, 5 his republican opponent had almost zero TV spots.

Oh and on WCCO channel 4 Don Shelby did a piece on Allahson claiming that he found two Islamic terrorist websites that didn't like him so he, "must be OK". Shelby has been confronted over Allahson's connections with CAIR and has refused to do a story on CAIR's muzzy terrorist connections.

Lastly our pussy open board republican Nicky Coleman has endorse Allahson on his using the koran.

Quick run down and now I need to puke.
Posted by: Icerigger || 12/22/2006 12:25 Comments || Top||

#14  Is this the map you're looking for, RD?
Posted by: exJAG || 12/22/2006 12:40 Comments || Top||

#15  The history of religion map is even better.
Posted by: exJAG || 12/22/2006 12:43 Comments || Top||

#16 

#14 Is this the map you're looking for, RD? yep, thank youse, most helpful!

#15 e history of religion map is even better. Eggcellent, saved them both!

Ā»:-)
Posted by: RD || 12/22/2006 12:56 Comments || Top||

#17  "I think the diversity of our country is a great strength"
The leftist drooling idiot response to any alleged "phobia".
Only when assimilation into the native culture is actively sought after, can diversity been seen as adding anything. Otherwise, as Islam has so often demonstrated in the past it exists as an entirely separate entity in the host country until it turns into a malignancy.
There are 3 facts in this article:
1. Islam is a danger to the US.
2. Ellison is a smooth talking asshole.
3. Virgil Goode is capable of recognizing the first two.
Posted by: JerseyMike || 12/22/2006 14:35 Comments || Top||

#18  This is another interesting map.

Bloody Borders
Posted by: SR-71 || 12/22/2006 16:17 Comments || Top||

#19  "I think the diversity of our country is a great strength"

Close but no cigar. Diversity is a source of our nation's strength, but it is through integration and assimilation that such diversity has served America so well. Those who refuse to be American and hold other creeds more dear are often as not of little worth to this country.
Posted by: Zenster || 12/22/2006 16:35 Comments || Top||

#20  PS: The Koran is entirely unacceptable as a swearing in document. It openly advocates the subversion and overthrow of America's government in favor of installing sharia law. This is sedition and treason, something that must not be countenanced within our legislative domain.
Posted by: Zenster || 12/22/2006 16:42 Comments || Top||

#21  We can learn all we need to know about Islam by studying Islamic countries and how they live, like women are not allowed to drive, or that all females are the property of a male, father, husband, brother or son. Then how no other religion is tolerated, and how a non-muslim cannot bring charges against a muslim without seven dozen muslim witnesses.
Then there's the clear missed opportunities to advance their cultures by adopting modern technology. These people have no soul and no common sense. They have only the teachings from the eighth century, and submission or death.
And further, we don't need a death cult among us 24/7. We have always had problems with those among us who can't live in peace without crime, why embrace a crime based cult ?
Posted by: wxjames || 12/22/2006 16:49 Comments || Top||

#22  Nothing personal, but could a Mod zap the Circles it is! multi-postings to the sink trap? Obviously thread-bare.
Posted by: Phineter Thraviger || 12/22/2006 16:52 Comments || Top||

#23  I know who I'd like to hear comment about Keith Ellison: Harlan. I'd buy tickets to that.
Posted by: Eric Jablow || 12/22/2006 17:56 Comments || Top||

#24  The Koran is entirely unacceptable as a swearing in document. It openly advocates the subversion and overthrow of America's government in favor of installing sharia law. This is sedition and treason, something that must not be countenanced within our legislative domain.

Zenster, this is a letter urging the state government to ban the Koran.
Suitably modified it might serve as a template for similar action in the US.
The main thing is that Islam should be attacked and attacked again, until it becomes the dominant paradigm that Islam is no more acceptable than slavery is, or human sacrifice, even though it was part of the Aztecs religion.

"Ladies and Gentlemen,

I am offended by violent passages in the Koran that I believe are in clear breach of Section 321G of the Victorian Crimes Act which states that Ā‘Ā…where a person Ā…incites any other person to pursue a course of conduct which will involve the commission of an offenceĀ…the inciter is guiltyĀ…of incitement.Ā’ Section 2A states that Ā‘Ā…incite includes command, request, propose, advise, encourage or authorizeĀ…Ā’ They also violate Section 25 of the Racial and Religious Tolerance Act 2001 which says: Ā‘A personĀ…must not, on the ground of the religious belief or activity of another person or class of persons, intentionally engage in conduct that the offender knows is likely Ā…to incite hatred...to threaten, or incite others to threaten physical harm towards that person or class of personsĀ…Ā’

There are numerous passages in the Koran that violate this section of the law. I am referring to the 2003 Penguin edition Koran currently available in Dymocks bookstores. P.133 says 'When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them.Ā’ Ā‘fighting is obligatory for youĀ…Ā’ p.32; Ā‘Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them.Ā’ p.146; and Ā‘slay or crucify opponents in warĀ’ p.83.' As an idolater and infidel I find these passages threatening, offensive and consequently illegal.

I believe the publisher and distributor of these passages are in breach of the law and would like you to refer all publishers and distributors of such offensive, threatening and illegal literature to the Courts for Prosecution. No publisher or distributor in the current climate can reasonably argue that they could not reasonably foresee that someone is likely to take these words literally. Koranic passages like these were interpreted literally to incite mass murder in Bali, New York, London and Madrid.

Whilst the Australian Constitution includes Section 116 which states that Ā‘The Commonwealth shall not make any law Ā…prohibiting the free exercise of religion...Ā’ this freedom has clear limits that were established in the High Court in the 1943 Adelaide Company of JehovahĀ’s Witnesses vs The Commonwealth case. The Court found that Ā‘Freedom of religion is not absolute. It is subject to powers and restrictions of government essential to the preservation of the community. Freedom of religion may not be invoked to cloak and dissemble subversive opinions or practices and operations dangerous to the common weal.Ā’ and that religion was Ā‘subject to limitationsĀ…such as are reasonably necessary for the protection of the community and in the interests of social orderĀ’. Freedom of religion does not extend to the incitement of murder and violence.

As a non Muslim I find these passages offensive, threatening and constituting incitement. I expect you and your office to uphold the law and apply it equally to all in the community without fear or favour in accordance with your sworn duty. The next vote I cast will be primarily determined by your willingness to protect my most fundamental human right not to live in fear of assault or murder because of my beliefs.

Yours sincerely"
Posted by: tipper || 12/22/2006 17:59 Comments || Top||

#25  Criticizing "moderate" muslims over on hotair will get you banned.

Judging from the Troll Tracks™ Circles the drain scattered about, being banned at "hotair.com" might not represent much of a hurdle. BTW, what the hell happened here? Haven't had the time to do a post-mortem.
Posted by: Greremp Uleremp6059 || 12/22/2006 18:03 Comments || Top||

#26  The dood who calls himself Mick Dundee went KaPOW.
Posted by: wxjames || 12/22/2006 18:24 Comments || Top||

#27  grateful and thankee for the link SR-71!
Posted by: RD || 12/22/2006 18:26 Comments || Top||

#28  I thought he/she/it was "circles it is". Heh. I guess the magic smoke escaped.
Posted by: Greremp Uleremp6059 || 12/22/2006 18:28 Comments || Top||

#29  Mick's prolly having a bad day. Maybe a girlfriend thingy. Too bad he can't suffer in silence.
Posted by: wxjames || 12/22/2006 18:38 Comments || Top||

#30  Not if knows how to aim.
Posted by: gromgoru || 12/22/2006 23:10 Comments || Top||

#31  Goodness me! Them boys got lips like .10¢ pickles!


Posted by: Circles it is! || 12/22/2006 16:10 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Latest Gitmo torture: Christmas Cards
How do you say "Season's Greetings" to an enemy combatant being held at Guantanamo Bay? It's only a guess, but maybe the cheeful holiday cards go like this:

Dear Avowed Enemy of America: Merry Christmas.

Dear I Yearn to Be a Martyr and Hook Up With 72 Virgins in Heaven: Happy Hanukkah.

Dear Friend of Usama Bin Laden: Happy New Year.

It's a well-established tradition for Americans at home to deliver Christmas cheer to U.S. soldiers stationed around the world, but it turns out that prisoners held in the War on Terror are getting good tidings of their own, too.

The 400 or so detainees at Joint Task Force detention facility in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, have received approximately 500 holiday greeting cards, said Army Col. Lora Tucker, a spokeswoman for the prison. She said she did not know the faith content of the cards sent to the mainly Muslim detention population, because "Once it goes to the detainee, it's the detainee's mail."

She said the guard force at Gitmo has no interest in the content of the mail after it is screened for operations and security purposes. Because nearly all the cards came from the United States, they probably had either a "happy holiday" or a Christmas theme, Tucker said, although it was possible some of the cards might be for the upcoming Muslim holiday of Eid ul-Adha.

Tucker said the detainees have been given the opportunity to write special holiday greetings, but she did not know how many prisoners had sent holiday notes, or how many total had been sent from the prison. In all, the prisoners at the base have received approximately 16,000 pieces of mail in 2006.

Tucker said the military personnel at the base had received about 2,000 holiday greeting cards from school groups and others, along with a number of gift stockings, "and there's more coming." That number does not include any personal mail the soldiers receive, which isn't tracked.

Tucker said that troops stationed at Guantanamo Bay are in no danger of forgetting what holiday it is on Monday: Candy canes are adorning ship ramps at the naval station; pontoon and private boats put on a military-style light show outside the naval base earlier this week; and a number of VIPs have made their way to Gitmo, including actor Gary Sinise, who played "Lt. Dan Taylor" in the movie "Forrest Gump." The Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders also have stopped by.

Ibrahim Hooper, spokesman for the Council on Aiding Islamic Radicals American-Islamic Relations, said the cards being sent to the detainees could be for the Eid ul-Adha holiday, which begins Dec. 30, but the tradition of card exchanges is nowhere nearly as established in the Muslim faith as it is in the Christian faith, especially in the United States. "If the message is religiously appropriate in terms of being an actual greeting card, if that's what they're intended to do, then that's one thing," Hooper said. But "if there's an orchestrated effort to somehow proselytize the detainees, I think that would be inappropriate in that they are in a captive situation."
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#1  Funny how the cards all smell of pork.
Posted by: 49 Pan || 12/22/2006 21:40 Comments || Top||


Al Qaeda Sends a Message to Democrats
Al Qaeda has sent a message to leaders of the Democratic party that credit for the defeat of congressional Republicans belongs to the terrorists.
Just the kind of red-on-red fight I like to see

In a portion of the tape from al Qaeda No. 2 man, Ayman al Zawahri, made available only today, Zawahri says he has two messages for American Democrats.
"The first is that you aren't the ones who won the midterm elections, nor are the Republicans the ones who lost. Rather, the terrorist thugs Mujahideen -- the Muslim Ummah's vanguard in Afghanistan and Iraq -- are the ones who won, and the American forces and their Crusader allies are the ones who lost," Zawahri said, according to a full transcript obtained by ABC News.
"Nancy, call me so we can coordinate!"

"And if you don't refrain from the foolish American policy of backing Israel, occupying the lands of Islam and stealing the treasures of the Muslims, then await the same fate, you dhimmi punks." he said
Posted by: Brett || 12/22/2006 15:57 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Sadly, in a way he's right. Al Quaeda in Iraq blew up the Samarra mosque which lit off the higher intensity Iraqi in-fighting and pretty much stopped central Iraq progress, which made Joe Average American feel Iraq couldn't be helped. And AQI contributed to the steady death count of Americans, which made Joe American feel even trying to help Iraq wasn't worth the price. It's a clever and effective strategy to use against the US. It takes advantage of our impatience for progress, our compassion for even our enemies, and our internal politics/media in a kind of jiu jitsu fashion.
Posted by: Glenmore || 12/22/2006 19:32 Comments || Top||

#2  Zawi's message all but officially affirms that the Dems = DemoLeft are de facto enemies of America - THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT THEY ARE ALSO VIEWED AS INCOMPETENT OR OUTCLASSED in comparison to Radical Islam. As said times before, 9-11 > SYMBOLISM OF COLLAPSE OF TOWERS > BOTH THE US RIGHT + US LEFT, etal. ANY AND ALL ARE GONNA GO DOWN FOR THE COUNT, BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.. Once the US Right is destroyed, the US Left, etc, will follow; once the USA is destroyed the West = World will follow.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 12/22/2006 21:18 Comments || Top||

#3  Did any of the network news repeat Zawahiri's claim? I'd like to know since the networks have dutifully repeated every other AQ threat and boast.
Posted by: ed || 12/22/2006 21:44 Comments || Top||


Judge: Iran Owes $254M in Terror Attack
WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Iranian government financed a 1996 terrorist attack that killed 19 Americans in Saudi Arabia and must pay $254 million to the victims' families, a federal judge ruled Friday.

The ruling by U.S. District Judge Royce C. Lamberth allows families of the victims of the Khobar Towers bombing to seek their compensation from assets that have been seized from the conservative Islamic regime in Tehran.
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India-Pakistan
Taliban own the night and part of the day in Waziristan, says Durrani
Ambassador Mahmud Ali Durrani said in an interview published here on Thursday that it is too early to pass a judgment on the North Waziristan accord between his government and tribal elders.

He added though that in that part of Afghanistan, Ā“the Taliban own the night and part of the dayĀ”.

The interview, carried by the Washington Post, quotes the ambassador as stressing that it will be Ā“prematureĀ” to hold that the other side is not abiding by its commitments. Ā“Give it more time. It is premature to say the agreement is a failure,Ā” he said when asked to comment on a statement by the head of National Intelligence John D Negroponte last week that back-and-forth travel by the Taliban and others Ā“causes serious problemsĀ”.

Durrani said Pakistan is increasing the number of its troops at border crossings and is seeking US weaponry, including night-vision and listening equipment. Ā“ItĀ’s not a perfect systemĀ” because tribal members are allowed to cross, and it is difficult to tell whether they are peaceful, he said, adding but if the Ā“bad guys come in, our agreement with them (the tribal leaders) will go awayĀ”. He said Pakistan at times has talked about putting a fence up in the border area or even mining sections, but neither the US nor Afghan governments have responded to the ideas. He emphasised that the border infiltration is Ā“not the factor in Afghanistan; itĀ’s a small factor.Ā”

The report noted that while American and Pakistani officials expect a resurgence in fighting when spring arrives, Durrani pointed out that one reason is that the Pashtun population in southern Afghanistan Ā“is very disillusioned ... They have only seen the rough side of the stickĀ” and need a lot more money for reconstruction and development. To counter the insurgency, he said that NATO and Afghan forces need to Ā“dominate the space (and) they donĀ’t have enough troops to do thatĀ”.

Durrani recalled that an important intelligence-sharing agreement, reached at the White House meeting in September between presidents Musharraf and Karzai, the United States was made the middleman, ensuring that data picked up by either side went to the other. Another suggestion at the meeting from Karzai, which he added is under negotiation, was that they engage tribes on both sides of the border in a loya jirga in which tribal elders would come together to reach common understanding.
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#1  ... including night-vision and listening equipment.

Lord, I hope we're not that dumb. Time for transfer to the Taliban would be measured in microseconds.
Posted by: PBMcL || 12/22/2006 1:31 Comments || Top||

#2  So if the Taliban 'own the night' it should be safe to assume anybody out at night is Taliban, right? So send out a bunch of UAVs with night vision and zap anyone who's out.
Posted by: Glenmore || 12/22/2006 8:00 Comments || Top||

#3  I thought Waziristan is technically in Pakistan. Unless Durrani was talking about some other part of Afghanistan other than the "North Waziristan" referenced in the previous paragraph...
Posted by: Mitch H. || 12/22/2006 9:13 Comments || Top||

#4  Why dont we own the night in Warzistan? We are not actively there.

The only thing that owns the night in Afghanistan is an AC-130. The Taliban call it the "Spitting Witch".
Posted by: Army Life || 12/22/2006 13:05 Comments || Top||

#5  Goodness me! Them boys got lips like .10¢ pickles!


Posted by: Circles it is! || 12/22/2006 16:10 Comments || Top||


Mengal sees US, India-sponsored war for free Balochistan
Sardar Attaullah Mengal, veteran nationalist leader and former chief minister of Balochistan, on Thursday predicted that the insurgency in Balochistan could soon turn into a US and India-sponsored war for an independent Balochistan.

Mengal said the insurgency in Balochistan had greatly intensified and the government should Ā“give up its claim on BalochistanĀ”. Ā“Islamabad has to declare the independence of Balochistan without delay. It is very likely that the US and India will move forward in the near future to give the present battle the shape of a full-fledged war for BalochistanĀ’s independence,Ā” he told reporters at his residence in Khuzdar district. He claimed that the government was refusing to negotiate with Baloch leaders to end the insurgency. He said recent conferences about the Balochistan issue held at the international level were an embarrassment to Islamabad.

Ā“Even the UK now regrets imposing a ban on the BLA [Balochistan Liberation Army]. It is a welcome move from the Baloch people to plan to move the ICJ [International Court of Justice]. We are constantly heading in the right direction,Ā” the veteran Baloch leader added. Mengal said a conflict between China and the United States over Gwadar Port was imminent. Ā“China is planning to move its Navy to Gwadar. This will go totally against the interests of the US, so a conflict is inevitable between the major powers,Ā” he said.
Posted by: Fred || 12/22/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [10 views] Top|| File under:

#1  strategic concepts ok, but timing wrong

Not yet, not yet.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 12/22/2006 0:28 Comments || Top||

#2  Any PLA move to GWADAR basically threatens America becuz such a move by China threatens India. See also SCOOP.co.nz > NEPAL - HOW IS PEACEFUL IS MAOIST CAMP [agz India]; + again DRAGONS TEETH, on hints at China's ambitions.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 12/22/2006 0:44 Comments || Top||

#3  Goodness me! Them boys got lips like .10¢ pickles!


Posted by: Circles it is! || 12/22/2006 16:10 Comments || Top||


Militancy an Afghan problem, not ours, says Musharraf
President General Pervez Musharraf said on Thursday militancy was an Afghan problem whose solution lay in Afghanistan. This solution should be similar to the solution Pakistan was trying it in its tribal areas through political and administrative measures, he added.

Ā“Any perception being created that the problem is in Pakistan and the solution is in Pakistan, and Afghanistan happens to be only a sideshow, is absolutely opposite,Ā” the president told a gathering of the 17th annual dinner of the Pakistani Americans Public Affairs Committee (PAK-PAC) here. Ā“The problem is in Afghanistan and its solution lies in Afghanistan ... there is no doubt in my mind, and this is the issue,Ā” Gen Musharraf said.

On the Pakistan side Ā“we have to control the militant Taliban and to deal with them and Al Qaeda,Ā” he said, adding that measures were being taken to ensure that no support was going across the border.

Gen Musharraf said that military force alone would not end the Taliban problem and referred to the peace agreement signed between local authorities and tribal elders in North Waziristan that was aimed at ending support to militant activities across the border in Afghanistan.

However, he added that if the government felt that political and administrative measures were not effective, it still had the military option.
So, uh, can we stop pretending this bitch is an ally, now?
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Quetta serves as a refuge for the Taliban
No Quetta, no problem.
At a time when the Taliban movement is making its strongest push in years to regain influence and territory in Afghanistan, Quetta has become an increasingly brazen hub of activity by the Islamist militia, the LA Times reported on Thursday.

Quetta serves as a place of rest and refuge for Taliban fighters between battles, a funneling point for cash and armaments, a fertile recruiting ground and a sometime meeting point for the groupĀ’s fugitive leaders, the report quoted aid workers, local officials, diplomats and others as saying.

Ā“Everybody is here,Ā” MNA Mahmood Khan Achakzai said while describing the routine comings and goings of senior Taliban commanders in Quetta. Quetta is a microcosm for these tensions. Local Pakistani authorities insist that they keep a tight lid on Taliban activity Ā— a claim derided by many residents of this city of about 1.5 million people, and one backed by little demonstrable evidence.

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Posted by: Fred || 12/22/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [10 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Quite a Quettlafish just begging for a strike.
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412 || 12/22/2006 0:21 Comments || Top||

#2  I pray for the day we attack Quetta as Perv Wont!!!!
Posted by: Ebbolump Glomotle9608 || 12/22/2006 6:28 Comments || Top||

#3  Goodness me! Them boys got lips like .10¢ pickles!


Posted by: Circles it is! || 12/22/2006 16:10 Comments || Top||


US urged to take unilateral military action in Waziristan
Ā“Action must be taken against Taliban and Al Qaeda forces in Pakistan before spring, when another major offensive against US and NATO forces can be expected unless the enemy bases and supply lines are disrupted,Ā” the Washington Post wrote in an editorial published on Thursday under the caption Ā‘Al QaedaĀ’s last sanctuaryĀ’.
Hmmm. Sounds alot like the WaPo / NYT / et al Editorial pontifications prior to Afghanistan and Iraq. They won't "forget" they said this again, will they?
Post editors stop short of saying who should take Ā“actionĀ” inside Pakistani territory: Pakistan or the US and NATO forces? From the context, it appears that the call to action is directed at the latter. The newspaper does not go into the consequences of what would happen if the US or its NATO allies were to take Ā“actionĀ” in what is, after all, sovereign Pakistani territory.

The editorial also calls on General Musharraf to stop allying himself with Ā“PakistanĀ’s own Muslim fundamentalistsĀ” and rehabilitate the secular democratic political parties that he has Ā“repressedĀ” since his 1999 coup. Ā“He could also abolish the colonial governing system in the tribal areas, under which secular political parties are banned and mullahs empowered, and allow representative government. By tolerating the generalĀ’s empty promises and excuses, the Bush administration is putting its mission in Afghanistan and homeland security into unacceptable jeopardy,Ā” the newspaper adds.

The Post takes the position that three months after PakistanĀ’s signing of the peace deal with tribal leaders in North Waziristan, its failure is clear. Ā“That the extremists would not respect the accord, and that attacks on US forces in Afghanistan would increase rather than decline, obviously seemed likely at the time. Yet President Bush, ever indulgent of PakistanĀ’s autocratic ruler, Gen Pervez Musharraf, accepted his promises. The editorial claims that Ā“senior administration officialsĀ” are now acknowledging that MusharrafĀ’s assurances were Ā“emptyĀ” as they have been many times beforeĀ”. According to Ā“multiple independent reportsĀ”, Waziristan has been thoroughly Talibanised, and the fundamentalists are spreading their influence through adjacent border districts. The newspaper also accuses the director of National Intelligence John D Negroponte of having Ā“grossly understated the case last week when he told The Post that Ā‘tribal authorities are not living up to the dealĀ’ struck by Musharraf and that the Taliban cross-border activity Ā‘causes serious problemsĀ’.
Posted by: Fred || 12/22/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  the WaPo GeneralĆ­simo Staff Calls for the Invasion of Cambodia WazooStan!

/i fart in their general direction
Posted by: RD || 12/22/2006 0:22 Comments || Top||

#2  I think if every madrassa in Wazoo went up in JDAM smoke on the very same day, they might get the message.
Posted by: tu3031 || 12/22/2006 9:24 Comments || Top||

#3  Agent orange on the poppies and poppy growers. napalm on the madrassas and anything that remotely appears to be supporting them. p**s on them.
Posted by: anymouse || 12/22/2006 12:52 Comments || Top||

#4  Goodness me! Them boys got lips like .10¢ pickles!


Posted by: Circles it is! || 12/22/2006 16:10 Comments || Top||


International-UN-NGOs
French Drones in Lebanon Await U.N. Green Light
But enough about Dominique who is a man.
France is waiting for United Nations authorization to deploy several unmanned drone aircraft in southern Lebanon, the defense ministry said in Paris Thursday.
"The means are ready and can be implemented very quickly if the U.N. so asks and decides," a spokesman said.

Earlier in the month France said it was in a position to deploy the drones to strengthen the observation capacities of the U.N. interim force in Lebanon (UNIFIL). "The drones left (the French Mediterranean port of) Toulon a few days ago and have arrived in Lebanon," the spokesman said without giving details of their location or number.
And boy are their wings tired.
If put into operation, the French drones will take part in the surveillance of a possible arms smuggling, in particular along the borders between Syria and Lebanon and between Israel and Lebanon. The drones are of the SDTI type and carry two cameras, one conventional and the other infra-red.
Posted by: mrp || 12/22/2006 10:46 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "The drones are of the SDTI type and carry two cameras, one conventional and the other infra-red", as well as a remotely-deployable white flag, from the top of the vertical stabilizer.
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 12/22/2006 14:06 Comments || Top||

#2  Whahahahahahaaa.....
Posted by: Besoeker || 12/22/2006 14:08 Comments || Top||

#3  oh those kind of drones. I thought you were talking about the french themselves....
Posted by: Spising Ebbolurong8325 || 12/22/2006 15:45 Comments || Top||

#4  Goodness me! Them boys got lips like .10¢ pickles!


Posted by: Circles it is! || 12/22/2006 16:10 Comments || Top||


Remember that Iran Sanctions Resolution? Well... SSDD
Go ahead, guess...
6 powers not yet agreed on draft U.N. sanctions resolution on Iran
(Kyodo) - The five permanent members of the U.N. Security Council plus Germany made last-ditch efforts Thursday to reach agreement on a draft U.N. resolution which calls for sanctions against Iran for its refusal to suspend uranium enrichment, U.N. diplomats said.
Last ditch. What drama. Nobody spoil it by giving away the ending, K?
The draft, if agreed on among the permanent five -- Britain, China, France, Russia and the United States -- plus Germany, was scheduled to be put to a Security Council vote on Friday. Russian envoy Vitaly Churkin said, however, he did not think that would happen after negotiations late Thursday.

"I don't think there is going to be a vote tomorrow. Maybe Saturday, yes," Churkin said regarding the vote. "But clearly we will need tomorrow for further thinking and maybe further decisions." The Russian envoy said that "just two or three issues remained," but described them as "difficult" and "important. We want the resolution to be as clear as possible and as precise as possible to make sure there are no surprises to anybody and that the implementation of this resolution proceeds smoothly after it's adopted," Churkin said.

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Posted by: .com || 12/22/2006 03:40 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  School Sisters of Notre Dame? Dominicans Dominus? Uh oh, now they're in for it, they got the Nuns pissed off.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 12/22/2006 23:04 Comments || Top||


Iraq
Iraq tribes 'taking on al-Qaeda'
A group of Sunni tribal chiefs in Iraq say they have caught more than 100 al-Qaeda members in recent months.
Mind if we take 'em for a while?
The tribal chiefs in the Iraqi province of Anbar joined forces in September in an attempt to defeat al-Qaeda. They set up the Salvation Council for Anbar and claim to have reduced the numbers of weapons and foreign fighters coming into the area.

The head of the council, Sheikh Faisal al-Goud, told the BBC, however, that there were still thousands of al-Qaeda fighters operating in al Anbar province alone. "We are fighting the terrorists because they have caused the violent chaos in the country, the instability. They are killing innocent Iraqis and killing anyone who wants freedom and peace in Iraq," he explained.

He said that he believed the organisation was responsible for about 30% to 40% of the insurgency in Iraq.

The sheikh said some of the al-Qaeda fighters and weapons came from neighbouring Arab countries, Syria and Saudi Arabia mainly, but some were from more distant Arab countries and from Afghanistan.
And Syria. And Libya. And Syria. And Algeria. And Syria. And Mauritania. And Syria ...
The group's claims to have killed or captured al-Qaeda fighters are hard to verify, our correspondent says.

Last month they said they had killed 55 fighters in a raid on their stronghold.

Driving a wedge between local Sunnis and the extreme jihadists of al-Qaeda has long been an aim shared by the Americans and the Iraqi government. But in a sign of how disunited the Sunnis are, a prominent Sunni figure considered close to the insurgency - Sheikh Harith al-Dari of the Muslim Scholars' Association - has criticised the tribesmen as bandits fighting what he called the resistance.
Of course he did. Why, it's unislamic!
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 12/22/2006 10:21 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Erdogan Yipping Again
Watch the finger-wag, chump, sombody might break it off and shove it down your throat. I have zero sympathy for Turkey. Zip, zilch, diddley-squat.
Erdogan: Our patience on PKK has limits
Premier Recep Tayyip Erdogan stated on late Wednesday that the process of fighting the terrorist Kurdistan Worker's Party (PKK) in northern Iraq, which began with the appointment of special envoys, should achieve concrete results, or the limits of Turkey's patience will be reached.

Speaking to U.S. public broadcaster PBS on the sidelines of his contacts in Washington, Premier Erdogan said, "There are limits to our patience on the PKK issue. The whole aim of our work in fighting against the terrorist group is to get concrete results. Therefore, we need to see the results of our efforts."

Asked how much time Turkey is giving for the success of the process, Erdogan said, "The special envoys for countering the PKK are working on the issue. But of course, we don't think that there's a lot of time for the success of the work because the history of the issue is not only a few years. This issue has been on our agenda for 30 years. I have to obviously state that progress must be attained in these efforts."

Underlining the importance of the territorial integrity of Iraq for Turkey, Erdogan stated that northern Iraq is not at peace as has been claimed since the terrorist PKK is launching attacks against Turkey from that region. "If we could control the future developments in Iraq, we could prevent the escalation of civil war," he added.

'Kirkuk should be given special status'

Erdogan stated that the demographic structure of the oil-rich Iraqi city of Kirkuk has changed, making it a place "on the brink of an explosion," urging a special status for Kirkuk, through taking into consideration the history of the region.

"A referendum is planned for Kirkuk next year, but I don't believe that it will have positive results. I think the referendum should be postponed," Erdogan said.
Um. No. Fuck off, but thanks for playing.
Posted by: .com || 12/22/2006 00:09 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Saddam trial adjourns until January 8
BAGHDAD - The trial of ousted Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein and six co-defendants on genocide charges against the Kurds was adjourned until January 8 after documentary evidence was presented on Thursday.

The court trying Saddam heard that Iraqi forces were told to cooperate with their Turkish counterparts during a 1980s campaign against Kurdish civilians. Prosecutors seeking to prove that the ousted Iraqi dictator ordered the slaughter of 182,000 Kurdish civilians in the 1988 Anfal campaign produced a series of Iraqi military documents during the dayĀ’s hearing.
Posted by: Steve White || 12/22/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Saddam has admitted ordering the gassing of the Kurds - has all but officially said was righteous thing to do in his view, and would do it again iff given the chance, or words to that effect. JUST MADE THE PROSECUTOR'S CASE.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 12/22/2006 0:39 Comments || Top||

#2  Goodness me! Them boys got lips like .10¢ pickles!


Posted by: Circles it is! || 12/22/2006 16:10 Comments || Top||


Shi'ite delegates ask for Sistani's blessing
Delegates from seven Shi'ite parties that comprise the Iraqi parliament's largest voting bloc gathered in Najaf on Thursday to discuss the country's predicament in front of their holiest cleric, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, whose word is considered binding by many Shi'ites.

They sought al-Sistani's blessing for a governing coalition taking shape among Shi'ites, Kurds and one Sunni party - seen as a last-ditch effort at rare cooperation across the sectarian divide. Though al-Sistani will likely approve the deal, he fears the coalition could weaken the Shi'ite bloc, officials close to him said on condition of anonymity because they were not allowed to speak to the press about their leader's concerns.
Posted by: Fred || 12/22/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Not many asking for Tater's blessing,hmmmm?
Posted by: Shonter Angaing2352 || 12/22/2006 15:58 Comments || Top||

#2  Goodness me! Them boys got lips like .10¢ pickles!


Posted by: Circles it is! || 12/22/2006 16:11 Comments || Top||


Saddam co-defendants deny gassing Kurdish rebels
Two former Iraqi commanders denied they gassed Kurds in northern Iraq 20 years ago, telling Saddam Hussein's genocide trial on Thursday that they used conventional weapons against Iranian troops and Kurdish rebels. Sultan al-Tai, who was minister of defense under Saddam, and Gen. Hussein Mohammed, a deputy director of army operations, were testifying against documents and videos presented by prosecutors this week. Some of the documents stated that Saddam's government had sanctioned the use of "special weapons" - mustard or nerve gas - against the Kurds in 1987-88. "I didn't use any special weapon against the Kurds," al-Tai shouted at the judges. He claimed some of the documents implicating him were "forged," but did not elaborate.
Posted by: Fred || 12/22/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  But Saddam did - their Boss-man has all but destroyed his underlings' case.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 12/22/2006 0:53 Comments || Top||

#2  Goodness me! Them boys got lips like .10¢ pickles!


Posted by: Circles it is! || 12/22/2006 16:11 Comments || Top||


Tater agrees to end gov't boycott
Radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr has agreed to allow his supporters to go back to their positions in the Iraqi government after a three-week boycott to protest the Iraqi prime minister's meeting with US President George W. Bush, three officials close to the militia leader said late Thursday.

Al-Sadr's loyalists walked out of their positions in parliament and the Cabinet after Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki met Bush in Jordan three weeks ago. Shi'ites from the Iraqi parliament's largest bloc, the United Iraqi Alliance, were meeting Thursday in the holy city of Najaf, as part of a plan to persuade the anti-American cleric to persuade the anti-American militia leader to rejoin the political process and rein in his fighters.
Posted by: Fred || 12/22/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Tater's web site is currently being hacked.
Here
Posted by: RD || 12/22/2006 0:52 Comments || Top||

#2  Rofl.

Everybody should hear the background sound - the qu'u'ra'a'ni'c chanting shit. Think about hearing that every day. Day in. Day out.
Posted by: .com || 12/22/2006 1:58 Comments || Top||

#3  Tater has finally come to realize that his contribution to the new iraq is just about over. Ba Bye Tater.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 12/22/2006 11:47 Comments || Top||

#4  Tater just screams out for the Rachel Corrie solution.

Varoom Varoom, clank, clank, clank.

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Posted by: Besoeker || 12/22/2006 13:53 Comments || Top||

#5  Last night I saw a website that was advertising Shiite Pets with a pic of Tater with Chia sprouts in place of his hair. I'll have to dig it up when I get home.
Posted by: xbalanke || 12/22/2006 14:39 Comments || Top||

#6  Goodness me! Them boys got lips like .10¢ pickles!


Posted by: Circles it is! || 12/22/2006 16:11 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
ABC BLAMES BUSH IN JORDAN PRISONS
GAG & EURP ALERT
breathless reportage by JIM SCIUTTO [this 'bath house boy get my vote for a-Q c*cksucker of the year]

SWAAKA, Jordan, Dec. 13, 2006 Ā— The presence of U.S. troops in Iraq has raised fears among Muslims worldwide that their countries could be next for an invasion, which has made it easy for the insurgents and al Qaeda in Iraq to recruit foreign fighters, men jailed in Jordan for joining the insurgency told ABC News.
ABC News = enemy of the USA
ABC News was the first news outlet allowed inside Jordan's maximum security Swaaka prison where Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the notorious leader of al Qaeda in Iraq, was once a prisoner and where now dozens of men are jailed for fighting in Iraq.
ABC rapporteurs are born with brown noses
We spoke with several prisoners including Yildar, a 26-year-old marketing student from Jordan, who told ABC News that before he was arrested he simply took a bus to Baghdad to join the insurgency and try to drive U.S. forces from the country. "Iraq was a magnet for us," he said. "We felt like our own home had been invaded."
ye olde ABC al Qaeda marketing student repression gambit
While fighting in Fallujah, his unit was commanded by an Iraqi army officer who was dismissed by the Americans. They received generous support from Iraqi civilians Ā— including food, money and housing.
Bad Bush, BUSH Make Bad Decisions
Yildar said he joined insurgents from all over the world, including France, Britain and two American Muslims.
How Global of him, bet he's for curbing carbon dioxide too!
"One of the American insurgents told me he had a brother in the U.S. Army," he said.
yea right, in Leavenworth
During his time in the insurgency, Yildar admitted he was often scared as he was fighting U.S. tanks and helicopters with just machine guns.
no shiite, the only truthy thing so far
Another prisoner, Mustafa, a 31-year-old computer engineer from Jordan, was convicted of recruiting and training fighters for al Qaeda in Iraq. He said the U.S. occupation was an extremely powerful recruiting tool for foreign fighters.ya better watch out ya better not cry 'cause..
"They believed that if we didn't stop America in Iraq, the U.S. would come to their own countries next," he said.
eat it up ABC
But even more motivating were stories of American atrocities, such as the abuse at the Abu Ghraib prison.
Thank Again ABC for all the distorted Ghraib stories
Mustafa was a prisoner at Abu Ghraib in 2003 and 2004 and has scars from the torture he said he endured. The Pentagon confirmed that he was stripped and beaten the very same day one of the infamous prisoner photos was taken.
too bad he's still alive
"The Americans' behavior is so ugly we all feel we have a duty to fight," he said. I'll bet $100 that ABC fed that one.
He vows to keep fighting until America leaves Iraq, but will not be released for 18 years. Yildar also vows to stay with the insurgency and will be released in just six months. LOL!

VIDEO HERE
Posted by: RD || 12/22/2006 19:28 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Is ABC news still on?
Posted by: Frank G || 12/22/2006 21:23 Comments || Top||

#2  ABC has sunk lower than way past whale shit, there're willing to suck up to A-Q prisoners in Jordan and give victim status to them [al Qaeda] in order to club Bush and the WOT.
Posted by: RD || 12/22/2006 22:49 Comments || Top||


Bush signs law endorsing policy to block PA aid
President George W. Bush signed into law a bill meant to block US aid to the Hamas-led Palestinian government and ban contacts with Hamas until the militant faction has renounced violence and recognizes Israel's existence.

It also creates a $20 million (Ā€15.2 million) fund to promote democracy, human rights, freedom of the press and peace between Israel and the Palestinians. The Bush administration stopped aid shortly after the January election victory by Hamas, which Washington considers an international terror organization. The bill Bush signed puts into law what already was administration policy.
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#1  Excellent. Now, about that $20m. Zactly how does that fund work?
Posted by: Jules || 12/22/2006 9:01 Comments || Top||

#2  I'm very suspicious of the $20 million handout too Jules. I don't favor $.02 of taxpayer monies going to anyone in this country. They voted these crappers into control. Let them deal with it without our monies. Let the EU step forth and put its treasure where its loose lips are.
Posted by: SpecOp35 || 12/22/2006 12:11 Comments || Top||

#3  Agreed, why does not spending money cost so much?
Reminds me of the lovely Spousal Unit: yesterday, she informed me that we saved $30 on this purchase that until she did it, neither of us knew we needed.........
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 12/22/2006 14:09 Comments || Top||

#4  I gather the 20 million is to act as seed money for several non-terrorist groups in the Gaza and West Bank, that are working for true accounting and transparency in the PA's budget. Also, some of the groups mentioned have been stressing the idea of real negotiations with the Israelis, instead of the PC hudnas we have been seeing.
Posted by: Shieldwolf || 12/22/2006 19:16 Comments || Top||

#5  #5 I feel sad about it too. But maybe, just maybe, $$$ will actually for worthwhile cause e.g. ammo for force 17.
Posted by: gromgoru || 12/22/2006 23:18 Comments || Top||

#6  Goodness me! Them boys got lips like .10¢ pickles!


Posted by: Circles it is! || 12/22/2006 16:11 Comments || Top||


Netanyahu: 'Israel not tired, Olmert is'
Likud Chairman Binyamin Netanyahu took aim at Prime Minister Ehud Olmert on Thursday evening during a Likud Hanukka candle-lighting ceremony in Or Yehuda, criticizing the prime minister for his passivity in the face of ongoing Kassam rocket attacks. "A leader needs to be an active authority, not a passive one - not [one of] restraint and inaction," Netanyahu declared, calling for Olmert to let the IDF do its job.

Earlier in the evening, Olmert announced his decision to reject Defense Minister Amir Peretz's proposal for a limit to Israel's restraint policy, saying that the policy would remain the same despite the Kassam attacks.

Netanyahu appealed to Olmert to "stop the restraint," adding that "this is an absurd situation in which we're trapping ourselves. Free the IDF's hands, let it operate against the rocket fire." Addressing an enthusiastic audience, the Likud leader opined, "Olmert said long ago that we are 'tired of curbing the attacks.' It's not the nation that's tired - Olmert is [the one who is] tired. There is only one thing worse than a nation that has lost faith in its leaders, and that is leaders who have lost faith in their nation." He then called on the prime minister "to vacate the position for a responsible leadership."
Posted by: Fred || 12/22/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "There is only one thing worse than a nation that has lost faith in its leaders, and that is leaders who have lost faith in their nation."

heh Benjamin..
Posted by: RD || 12/22/2006 0:26 Comments || Top||

#2  Olmert said long ago that we are 'tired of curbing the attacks.'

I can understand being tired of the whole mess. I get tired of taking the trash out. But if you don't take the trash out, it builds up. Sometimes ya gotta do what ya gotta do.
Posted by: SteveS || 12/22/2006 1:32 Comments || Top||

#3  He then called on the prime minister "to vacate the position for a responsible leadership."

Translation: Leave. I'd feel funny sleeping on a bed that you were hiding under.
Posted by: gorb || 12/22/2006 1:34 Comments || Top||

#4  Jimmy Carter is surely PLEASED with this situation. It probably gives him orgasms to imagine himself free of any blame or retaliation when he lobs slanders at those he hates. However, this pleasure is denied him here in the United States due to pesky zionists DARING to use their First Amendment rights to criticize him and point out his bias as etruditely stated HATE. Thus, it encourages him to see that, at least among his FRIENDS, THEY are free to lob missiles at those THEY HATE without the fear of retaliation. If it is possible there, he must reason, then such nirvana MUST be brought HERE as well! Surely a nation capable of landing a man on the moon can do THAT!

/sarcasm
Posted by: Ptah || 12/22/2006 7:59 Comments || Top||

#5  SteveS - what a perfect analogy.
Posted by: Glenmore || 12/22/2006 8:07 Comments || Top||

#6  When is Israel's next election, and is Neyanyahu running?
Posted by: Grunter || 12/22/2006 20:22 Comments || Top||

#7  Goodness me! Them boys got lips like .10¢ pickles!


Posted by: Circles it is! || 12/22/2006 16:11 Comments || Top||


Science & Technology
Extra Eyeballs for Infantry Commanders
December 22, 2006: The U.S. Army is using thousands of small UAVs, that transmit real-time video to commanders below. These videos enable officers to more effectively deploy their troops. But the company, and sometimes platoon, commanders have a very practical problem with keeping an eye on the video. With some systems, theUAV video is shown on a laptop computer. But a more handy (and expensive) controller is becoming common. These look like video game controllers, with a small video screen built in. But even these can be hard to handle for a company commander who is under fire, or otherwise distracted.

Many infantry commanders have been looking to goggle type video displays. These have been around for years, and basically put a very small screen right in front of your eye, providing the equivalent (to the viewer) of a laptop size screen. But these devices are fragile, and expensive. Now an Israeli company has come up with what might be a solution. A miniature LCD projector is mounted on the side of eye glasses and projects an image that looks, to the user, like a 60 inch flat screen display viewed at a distance of about three meters. Great for keeping an eye on UAV video. Moreover, the "60 inch flat screen display" is also transparent, so the user is not blind to his surroundings. For military use, this device (called LOE, for Light-guide Optical Element) can be built into the kind of goggles all troops wear in the field. Since it's an Israeli firm that developed this, the Israeli army will probably be the first to adapt it to military use. This has been the case with similar technologies developed recently.
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Southeast Asia
Bashir: Verdict Is Indo Finger To US; I Think I'll Sue
Hunter Killer Teams.
Acquittal an act of defiance against US: Bashir
AP, JAKARTA Saturday, Dec 23, 2006 - Firebrand Islamic cleric Abu Bakar Bashir praised a court ruling acquitting him of terrorism charges as an act of defiance against the US and said yesterday he was considering suing for damages.

Bashir, who spent 2.5 years in prison for conspiracy in the 2002 Bali bombings that killed 202 people, has long claimed he was arrested on trumped up charges to appease Washington and its allies in the so-called war on terror.

The Supreme Court's decision on Thursday to quash his conviction in the twin nightclub blasts angered victims and the government in Australia, where the top police official said he "had no doubt" Bashir was involved.

But the 69-year-old cleric, who was released from prison in June, was all smiles when speaking to journalists at his hardline Islamic boarding school in the central Javanese town of Solo.

Many countries and courts "are too afraid to stand up to the United States, but the Supreme Court decision is honest and brave," he said, adding that he was considering filing a lawsuit to rehabilitate his name and seek damages.

If awarded compensation, he will likely donate it to Islamic causes, his lawyer said.

The US and Australia have both accused Bashir of being one of the key leaders of the al-Qaeda-linked militant network Jemaah Islamiyah, which has been blamed for the Bali attack and a series of other deadly bombings. They have never presented any evidence to support their claim.

Eighty-eight of the victims in the 2002 bombings were Australian and relatives and friends expressed outrage yesterday at the decision.

Australian Prime Minister John Howard said he was upset for the families but powerless to help.
As long as you recognize Indo sovereignty, yes.
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PACOM Cancels mil exercise over Marine rape case
The United States has cancelled large-scale military exercises in the Philippines scheduled for next year in an escalating dispute over custody of a U.S. Marine convicted of raping a local woman.

U.S. embassy spokesman Matthew Lussenhop says the military exercises scheduled for February are cancelled, because of the dispute over the custody of a convicted U.S. marine. Called the Balikatan 2007 war games, these usually involve as many as 5,000 U.S. troops, and are a sign of the close ties between the two long-standing allies.

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#1  Justice Secretary Raul Gonzalez blamed Pozon and the Court of Appeals for straining RP-US relations due to the custody dispute over Smith.

"We cannot blame the US for its actions because we donĀ’t seem to know how to respect our treaty with them. That is unfortunate because the government has always been willing to comply with its treaty obligations. Unfortunately we cannot avoid the process of the courts," Gonzalez said.

He blamed Pozon for not respecting the provisions of the VFA.
Posted by: Joe of the Jungle || 12/22/2006 21:24 Comments || Top||


India to ask Myanmar to crack down on terror camps
Alarmed by Lashkar-e-Taiba's attempts to set up bases in Manipur, India will ask Myanmar to crack down on camps which have became a common training ground for Pakistan-based terror outfits, as well as north-east insurgent groups.

The issue is likely to come up during a meeting here between home minister Shivraj Patil and his Myanmarese counterpart, Major General Maung Oo, on Thursday. Although India had made similar requests earlier, the arrest of three Manipur-based LeT terrorists by Delhi Police on Tuesday has injected a sense of urgency in engaging Myanmar and convincing it to crack down on training camps.

Referring to preliminary interrogation details of the LeT operatives, sources in the home ministry said the outfit has been using Myanmarese territories to train its cadre for the last one year. The camps being used by Ulfa had provided ready-to-use infrastructure to Lashkar operatives who were recruited from among indigenous Muslims in Manipur.

Though Myanmar had assured India that insurgents would not be allowed to use its territory, the disclosure made by the arrested militants gave a different picture, sources added. Ministry officials refused to answer whether India would ask Myanmar to flush out insurgents from its territory the way Bhutan did against Ulfa, in a joint operation with Indian Army in December 2003. They, however, did not rule out the possibility of taking a tough stand during the home minister-level talks.
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Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Ahmadinejad: Britain, Israel, US to 'vanish like the pharaohs'
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has predicted that Britian, Israel and the United States would eventually disappear from the world like the Egyptian pharaonic kings.
"The oppressive powers will disappear while the Iranian people will stay. Any power that is close to God will survive while the powers who are far from God will disappear like the pharaohs," he said Wednesday, according to Iranian news agencies.

"Today, it is the United States, Britain and the Zionist regime which are doomed to disappear as they have moved far away from the teachings of God," he said in a speech in the western town of Javanroud.

"It is a divine promise."

Ahmadinejad's comments were the latest salvo by the deeply religious president against the West and Israel. He has repeatedly predicted that Israel is doomed to disappear.

The remarks come amid mounting efforts by UN Security Council powers to agree a resolution imposing sanctions on Iran over its controversial nuclear programme.

"They are threatening us with sanctions. But they have to know that nuclear energy is the desire of all the (Iranian) people and the people will insist on their right," Ahmadinejad said.
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#1  "It is a divine promise." - Ahmadinejad

"And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse
him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all
families of the earth be blessed." - God (Genesis
12:3)
Posted by: Whiskettes4Hilali || 12/22/2006 11:26 Comments || Top||

#2  Hmm. If Ahmadinejad is claiming to receive divine messages he is claiming to be a prophet and since Mohammud is the last prophet, Ahmadinejad is a first class heretic/blasphemer/apostate and all moslems are required to kill him at the earliest opportunity.
Posted by: mhw || 12/22/2006 15:48 Comments || Top||

#3  this is a repeat from yesterday
Posted by: gromgoru || 12/22/2006 17:40 Comments || Top||

#4  Yup.
Posted by: .com || 12/22/2006 17:40 Comments || Top||

#5  The Pharoanic dynasties lasted for 000's of years, while C2CAM George Noory's guest believes the Pyramids may as old as 10,000 years, not the textbook 5000. Within the scope of scientific + other scholarship, MOUD > USA-BRITAIN TO LAST 5-10000 YEARS???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 12/22/2006 23:01 Comments || Top||

#6  Goodness me! Them boys got lips like .10¢ pickles!


Posted by: Circles it is! || 12/22/2006 16:11 Comments || Top||


Ahmadinejad Seems Unbowed by Foes' Wins
(AP) President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called President Bush "the most hated person" in the world on Thursday, keeping up his tirades against the West despite elections that showed Iranians want him to focus on the country's domestic problems.

In final results announced Thursday from local elections last week, moderate conservatives opposed to Ahmadinejad won a majority of seats. They were followed by reformists, making a comeback after being driven out of local councils, parliament and the presidency over the past five years.

In the capital Tehran, where Ahmadinejad was mayor before becoming president 16 months ago, his allies grabbed only three of the 15 council seats, while moderate conservatives won seven. Reformists won four, and an independent one. Though the Dec. 15 elections were local, they were the first time the public has weighed in on Ahmadinejad's stormy presidency.

But Ahmadinejad appeared unbowed. He toured cities in western Iran, telling the crowds that Iran will not be intimidated by Western demands to dismantle its nuclear program, and scolding Bush. "Oh, the respectful gentleman, get out of the glassy palace and know that you are the most hated person in the eyes of the world's nations and you can't harm the Iranian nation," Ahmadinejad said, according to the official Iranian Republic News Agency.

He said Iran would continue uranium enrichment even under threat of U.N. sanctions. "A nation that has resisted until today will resist until the last step and will defend its rights," he said.

The United States and its allies believe Iran is trying to develop nuclear weapons. Iran denies the allegation, saying its nuclear goal is only to generate electricity.

Ahmadinejad did not comment on the election results. But his hard-line foreign policy, in the absence of a strong domestic agenda or economic program, is believed to have divided the conservative base that voted him into the presidency last year.

The president has sharply escalated Iran's standoff with the United States and its allies over several issues. Besides uranium enrichment, he has sparked international outrage for his calls to eliminate Israel and for casting doubt on the Nazi Holocaust.

Election results outside Tehran also showed a heavy defeat for Ahmadinejad supporters. None of his candidates won seats on the councils in the cities of Shiraz, Bandar Abbas, Sari, Zanjan, Rasht, Ilam, Sanandaj and Kerman, and many councils in other cities were divided like Tehran's.

Similar anti-Ahmadinejad sentiment appeared in final results of a parallel election for the Assembly of Experts, the body of 86 senior clerics that monitors Iran's supreme Islamic leader and chooses his successor.

A big boost for moderates within the ruling Islamic establishment was visible in the large number of votes for former President Hashemi Rafsanjani, who lost to Ahmadinejad in the 2005 presidential election runoff.

Rafsanjani, who supports dialogue with the United States, got the most votes of any candidate from Tehran to win re-election to the assembly.

Opposition candidates demanded that Ahmadinejad pay more attention to unemployment, now estimated at 11 percent, and other economic problems. He has failed to carry through on several domestic campaign promises, including a pledge to send a share of the country's oil revenues to every family and to implement an anti-poverty program.

The moderate daily newspaper Etemad-e-Melli, or National Confidence, urged Ahmadinejad to change his policies if he has any respect for the vote. "The result of the elections, if there is any ear to listen or any eye to see, demands reconsideration in policies," the paper said in an editorial Thursday.

Conservative lawmaker Emad Afroogh also called on Ahmadinejad to learn a lesson from the vote. "The people's vote means they don't like Ahmadinejad's populist methods," Afroogh told The Associated Press.

Reformist Saeed Shariati also said the results of the election were a "big no" to Ahmadinejad and his allies, who he accused of harming Iran's interests with their hard line. "We consider this government's policy to be against Iran's national interests and security. It is simply acting against Iran's interests," said Shariati, a leader of the Islamic Iran Participation Front, Iran's largest reformist party. His party seeks democratic changes within the ruling Islamic establishment and supports relations with the United States.
NatterĀ³
Posted by: .com || 12/22/2006 00:46 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  If I was this demented little retard, I wouldn't be getting on an Iranian plane anytime soon...
Posted by: tu3031 || 12/22/2006 9:29 Comments || Top||

#2  Disagree: Posts made soon afte election referred to goon squads loyal to dinnerjacket hunting down those opposed to him. I think he will come out unscathed, but there will be a lot of ordinary folks that 'go missing.' I would really, like to be wrong on this however.
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 12/22/2006 14:45 Comments || Top||

#3  Love the picture, looks like a rat.
Posted by: Mods Alert || 12/22/2006 16:18 Comments || Top||


Russia wants delay in UN Iran sanctions vote
Russia on Thursday criticized key elements of a U.N. Security Council resolution imposing sanctions on Iran for its nuclear ambitions and expected a one-day delay, until Saturday, for a vote.

Europeans Britain, France and Germany had called a vote on Friday morning for the resolution they drafted and conducted last minute negotiations with the United States, Russia and China on Thursday afternoon. "I do not think there is going to be a vote tomorrow (Friday)," Moscow's U.N. Ambassador Vitaly Churkin told reporters in a recess during the talks among the six nations. "Maybe Saturday, yes, but clearly we will need tomorrow for further thinking and maybe further discussions of the draft resolution," Churkin said.
Posted by: Fred || 12/22/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The check hasn't yet cleared for the last A/A battery they sold the Iranian whack-jobs.....
Posted by: OyVey1 || 12/22/2006 8:55 Comments || Top||

#2  Probably they need to get that nuclear fuel through before any possible sanctions.
Posted by: bigim-ky || 12/22/2006 12:02 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Trump Blames People Like Rosie For Iraq War
I love a good train wreck, don't you?
The Donald's new celebrity war with Rosie O'Donnell is comparable to the war in Iraq ... at least according to Trump.

Last night, the Donald phoned into "Larry King Live" from a phone on his private jet, and continued to bash his newfound enemy by comparing Rosie's claims that Donald went bankrupt to the "lies" that got the U.S. involved in the war in the Middle East.

"When people lie, Larry, I like to go after them. And I think, frankly, more people should be like that. I mean you look at this country, look at the problems we have -- lots of lies got us into the war in Iraq."

Earlier in the week, Rosie posted a message on her blog detailing Trump's financial history. "She said ... I went bankrupt three or four times, there's only one problem, I never went bankrupt."

The blood feud officially began when Rosie ripped Trump on "The View," for acting as America's "moral authority" in his public pardon of Miss USA Tara Conner.

Larry King said they invited Rosie to appear on the show, but she declined.
Posted by: Raj || 12/22/2006 15:07 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Let's place blame for the Iraq war where it should reside, against an armed and hostile enemy.
Posted by: badanov || 12/22/2006 17:03 Comments || Top||

#2  Get a room, you two.
Posted by: Grunter || 12/22/2006 17:22 Comments || Top||

#3  yeah, I mean, Iraq was simply awash in WMD's, the place was lousy with 'em, just like our leader told us.
Posted by: Critch Fliger5382 || 12/22/2006 17:50 Comments || Top||

#4  Lol. Our leader was in good company - the rest of the fucking known world was working off of the same intel, dipshit.

You Know You Are a Leftist Twit If...
-You believe John Ashcroft poses a greater danger to America than Osama bin Laden

-You think President Bush lied to the nation, but his predecessor did not.

-You believe President Bush is too dumb to be President and Arnold Schwarzenegger is too dumb to be Governor of California, but the Dixie Chicks, Martin Sheen, Alec Baldwin, Babs Streisand, Eddie Vedder, and Jeanine Garofalo are foreign policy experts.

-You are enraged by the so-called mistreatment of Muslim prisoners at Guantanamo Bay who have gained weight while dining on their specially prepared Koran-approved meals, but believe the world should have stood idly by while Saddam Hussein filled mass graves.

-You support racial, ethnic, and sexual diversity, but oppose the adoption of non-discriminatory hiring practices to ensure ideological diversity on university faculties.

-You supported making rhetoric about human rights central to US foreign policy under Jimmy Carter, but oppose actually taking action to make human rights a reality under George W. Bush.

-You believe that trial lawyers taking 33 to 40 percent of a plaintiff's recovery in lawsuits is just about right, but the federal government taking this amount of our income in taxes is not nearly enough.

-You believe Saddam Hussein, Kim Jong Il, and Yasser Arafat were fairly and democratically elected, but President Bush was not.

-You root for prisoners when they escape from our oppressive prisons, but oppose allowing poor children to escape from failing public schools.

-You believe all conservatives are racist, but do not think minorities can ever succeed without affirmative action.

-You believe that being the former Governor of a New England state with 608,827 people is more than adequate experience to qualify someone to be President in 2004, but being the Governor of a Southwestern state with 21,325,018 people was wholly inadequate in 2000.

-You agree with Toni Morrison that President Clinton was "the first black President," but didn't criticize Al Sharpton for recently labeling President Bush a "gang leader."

-You believe we could finally get some truth out of the Pentagon if only Don Rumsfeld would resign and Mohammed Al-Sahhaf was named as his replacement.

-You believe evangelical Christians are destroying America, but don't feel threatened by the radical Wahabbi sect that is perverting Islam.

-You have found where the right to an abortion is written in the Constitution, but cannot find where the Constitution provides for a right to bear arms.

-Your car sports the bumper sticker saying that "it will be a great day when our schools have all the money they need and the military has to hold bake sales," but oppose allowing the U.S. military to set up volunteer recruitment tables on college campuses because of their "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy.

-You believe President Bush is an environmental criminal for poisoning the water with arsenic, but have never complained about Saddam Hussein's devastating Iraq and Kuwait's environment through setting intentional oil well fires and committing genocide against the Marsh Arabs by draining their wetlands.

-You support campus speech codes that ban pick-up lines and amorous gazes, but never spoke out against President Clinton's physical sexual harassment in the White House.

-You can't decide which is worse: the Patriot Act or the Patriot Missile.

-You support unlimited appeals for convicted criminals, but believe it is undemocratic for Californians to reverse their earlier mistake of electing Gray Davis.

-You believe U.S. exports of genetically-modified foods pose a greater threat to African nations than corrupt dictators like Zimbabwe's Mugabe.

-You believe welfare is a fundamental human right, but workfare is a human rights violation.

-You believe religion is a scourge on our society, but that we will all be saved if we only have our consciousness sufficiently raised so that we become one with Mother Nature and share your faith that global warming will kill us all.

If the above has successfully profiled you, congratulations, as you have won a one-way ticket to Paris aboard the U.S.S.R. Michael Moore. Your ticket will be held at the nearest Dennis Kucinich for President rally. Matricular consular cards issued by foreign governments will be gladly accepted as identification.

Buzz off, fuckwit.
Posted by: .com || 12/22/2006 17:59 Comments || Top||

#5  Damn .com, you never gave him a chance. Let 'em grow a little, feel their oats, even a troll needs their odd hour of power.
Posted by: Shipman || 12/22/2006 18:15 Comments || Top||

#6  .com has had to clean up a lot of messes today. I can see why he went to preemptive action.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 12/22/2006 18:18 Comments || Top||

#7  To be honest, others did the work. I was off looking at, um, stuff and missed most of this pathetic display. Wotta letdown, too.
Posted by: .com || 12/22/2006 18:20 Comments || Top||

#8  #4: I am stealing those!
Posted by: Greremp Uleremp6059 || 12/22/2006 18:46 Comments || Top||

#9  You support racial, ethnic, and sexual diversity, but oppose the adoption of non-discriminatory hiring practices to ensure ideological diversity on university faculties.

Careful! You're thinking like I'm thinking! You've been warned.
Posted by: Zenster || 12/22/2006 19:17 Comments || Top||

#10  .com, if that was spontaneous and not pulled from a pre-existing list, that is one of the greatest slams on the libs that I have seen anywhere. Just awesome. Permission to steal (borrow) please.
Posted by: Remoteman || 12/22/2006 22:08 Comments || Top||

#11  No, sorry to say it wasn't mine, Remoteman. The quality of the idiot merited only a cut 'n paste, lol.
Posted by: .com || 12/22/2006 23:54 Comments || Top||


Brandeis May Re-Invite Carter; No Debate Necessary
What a bunch of pussies (emphasis mine)...
President Jimmy Carter may yet come to Brandeis University to speak about his controversial new book about Israel -- and even get the stage to himself.

Some professors are planning to craft a new invitation to Carter to give a lecture without having to debate an opponent. Last week, the former president told the Globe he declined an invitation to Brandeis because of the string attached. President Jehuda Reinharz, at a trustee's suggestion, invited Carter to campus to debate "Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid" with a vehement critic of the book, Alan Dershowitz, a professor at Harvard Law School. Carter said Dershowitz knows nothing about the situation in Palestine.

Several dozen Brandeis professors have been trading e-mails on what could be done, according to two professors on the e-mail list of left-leaning faculty. Patricia Johnston, a professor of classics, said she and many colleagues have offered to chip in perhaps $100 each to pay for whatever travel and security costs a Carter visit would entail.

"Who is Alan Dershowitz?" Johnston sniffed haughtily said. Carter "is the former president of the United States, who has done so much to further the cause of peace in the Middle East and elsewhere. It's an insult to suggest that he should have to defend himself that way."
That was Dershowitz's point, wasn't it?

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Posted by: Raj || 12/22/2006 09:39 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Tht's good. Jimmah don't like to defend himself...
Posted by: tu3031 || 12/22/2006 10:07 Comments || Top||

#2  I'm betting that mS. Lillian was a a geniune old school southern variety joooooo-hater.
Posted by: Shipman || 12/22/2006 10:21 Comments || Top||

#3  This would be an excellent opportunity for someone to schedule Alan Dershowitz for TWO appearances, one before Carter, and one after Carter.

At the first one he could say that in his book, Carter lied, and was incompetent and crippled as a President.

At the second one, he could rebut what Carter had said, and point out that not only is he still incompetent and crippled, but he just lied again and to their faces.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 12/22/2006 11:41 Comments || Top||

#4  Carter's appearance at Brandeis is important to the academic elitists at the university to confirm their insular positions on world politics. They do not want to hear anything Dershowitz has to say that might shatter their LLL illusions.
Posted by: USMC6743 || 12/22/2006 13:08 Comments || Top||

#5  Carter: "...one of the purposes of the book was to provoke discussion, which is very rarely heard in this country..."
So why won't Carter discuss the book with Dershowitz or anyone else for that matter?
Posted by: GK || 12/22/2006 14:06 Comments || Top||

#6  Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting
Posted by: Anonymoose || 12/22/2006 15:05 Comments || Top||

#7  Ah want to thank Brandeis University for their invitation to plug mah new book lecture.
Posted by: Jimmah Carter || 12/22/2006 18:06 Comments || Top||

#8  Goodness me! Them boys got lips like .10¢ pickles!


Posted by: Circles it is! || 12/22/2006 16:09 Comments || Top||



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