(SomaliNet) Somalia's Islamic Courts slapped the US terrorism policy in the face when they elected Sheik Dahir Hassan Aweys as their supreme leader earlier this year after capturing Mogadishu. Sheik Aweys is wanted dead or alive by the US government.
Another man who has been in the wanted list since 2004, Hassan Turki called a radio station in Mogadishu two nights ago and said hes not in hiding anymore. He said he and his army are going to Somalia Kenya border in order to prevent IGAD troops from crossing into Somalia from Kenya. Shiek Hassan Turki is a member of the ruling body of the Islamic Courts and he told Horn Afrik that he has a base in the border area and came to Mogadishu to fight and defeat Mogadishu warlords who vowed to capture him and his close friends.
Somalias political landscape changed when a group of Mogadishu warlords allegedly got money from the US government and announced their intention to capture and extradite wanted terrorists in Somalia. It backfired in a big way and the warlords were chased out of the country by militants waving Islamic flags.
The Islamic Courts surprised Somalia and the rest of the world when they captured Mogadishu in days and expanded their conquest to much of the south. Three other major cities in the south are within their reach now. They can march into Kismayo, Galkao or Baidao at anytime. Baidao hosts the federal government which does not control anywhere else in the country. However, neighboring countries promised military assistance to the government.
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Could somebody go over there with a slingshot and take these buttheads out before they start getting too good a foothold? Or do we like to wait until it's too late and we have to assemble a major force to take care of the problem?
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The Ethiopians and the Puntlanders are making the necessary moves to counter these idiots : the Ethiopian forces in northern Somalia include light armour and motorized infantry. And the Puntlanders are moving militia and vehicles to their borders with the rump state of Somalia.
AUSTRALIA'S Muslim leaders have been "read the riot act" over the need to denounce any links between Islam and terrorism. The Howard Government's multicultural spokesman, Andrew Robb, yesterday told an audience of 100 imams who address Australia's mosques that these were tough times requiring great personal resolve.
Mr Robb also called on them to shun a victim mentality that branded any criticism as discrimination. "We live in a world of terrorism where evil acts are being regularly perpetrated in the name of your faith," Mr Robb said at the Sydney conference. "And because it is your faith that is being invoked as justification for these evil acts, it is your problem.
"You can't wish it away, or ignore it, just because it has been caused by others.
"Instead, speak up and condemn terrorism, defend your role in the way of life that we all share here in Australia."
Mr Robb said unless Muslims took responsibility for their destiny and tackled the causes of terrorism, Australia would become divided.
Mr Robb, the parliamentary secretary for immigration and multicultural affairs, said it was important for migrants to learn English. "I see as critical the need for imams to have effective English language skills -- it is a self-evident truth that a shared language is one of the foundations of national cohesion," he said.
On the eve of Mr Robb's release today of a discussion paper on a new citizenship test, the chairman of the Government's Muslim Reference Group, Dr Ameer Ali, said Opposition Leader Kim Beazley's idea of a values test was silly, as was the need for a universal English test. He called for an orientation program for new migrants akin to a university student's orientation week.
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And Aussie muslim leaders will do it. In public. In english.
What happens in private and in arabic is another story.
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The very fact that there are two different messages, one in the "secret language", brings their attention to the fact that this is not acceptable. Which is, after all, a new concept.
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"He called for an orientation program for new migrants akin to a university student's orientation week." Let's fight terrorism by mandating a full week of orientation for all Islamic students at American flight schools. I don't know how the 9-11 Commission missed that valuable recommendation.
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Lt. Ehren Watada faces an additional count of conduct unbecoming an officer, officials said Friday. Watadas commander added a seventh count to the six he already faces in connection with his refusal to go to Iraq in June with the Fort Lewis-based 3rd Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division. The new charge stems from remarks Watada made in a speech Aug. 12 at the Veterans for Peace national convention in Seattle.
In the speech, the 28-year-old artillery officer repeated his opposition to the war and called on deployed soldiers to refuse to fight. A videotape of the speech was played at an Army hearing Aug. 17 into the evidence against Watada.
The lieutenants attorney, Eric Seitz, characterized the additional charge as further evidence of the Armys intent to silence his client. Thats what theyve been trying to do from the beginning, Seitz said. He said Watada would continue to appear at some limited speaking engagements.
An Army officer who reviewed the evidence recommended Watada be court-martialed for missing his units movement to Iraq, two counts of making contemptuous statements about President Bush, and three counts of conduct unbecoming an officer. The Fort Lewis commanding general, Lt. Gen. James Dubik, has not yet announced whether hell order Watada to be court-martialed.
If convicted of the original six charges and the seventh, Watada would face up to eight years in prison, Fort Lewis spokesman Joseph Piek said. Here's hoping he goes eight-for-eight. No parole for federal offenses, too. Welcome to Kansas.
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...called on deployed soldiers to refuse to fight.
IANAL but this would seem to come awfully close to incitement to mutiny. Keep talking, kid. If Kansas runs out of rocks to break, Arizona has plenty enough to send...
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A soldier urging other soldiers not to fight is serious business. Of course the Army is trying to silence him (picked right up on that, he did), he's in the military and subject to military discipline. Being a soldier sometimes means having to shut the f@#! up.
A large whack with an extra heavy duty cluebat will be forthcoming.
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Watada was already a moonbat when he signed up after 9/11. It seems clear that his (and his backers') very purpose was to position himself to make a media spectacle and advance the enemy's cause.
Akbar martyred himself by tossing a grenade into the TOC, and now sits on death row. Watada martyred himself by acquiring a uniform and using it as a megaphone for his propaganda. He is no less a traitor than Akbar and should fucking swing from a tree.
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Until the Uniform Code of Military Justice became effective, on May 31, 1951, the Army and Navy operated under laws derived directly from the British Articles of War, which had been in force since before the Revolutionary War. Soldiers and sailors had few rights, and the system was designed to enforce discipline, not justice. Punishments included execution, flogging, and hard labor with ball and chain. We may need to revert back to a simpler time.
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The Chain of Command certainly has the right and power of law to restrict the lad's butt to the installation. It further has the authority to restrict him to quarters on the installation. If the lad breaks said restrict, he may be held in an appropriate confinement facility, pending further processing.
Now who the hell is holding up the case. It doesn't take two months to put together a case to go to trial. If your JAG is dragging his feet, fire'em. Call branch and tell them to get a new one in. Once again the boys who ROE'd UBLs escape at the start and who cry rivers of pity for terrorists at Gitmo, are screwing us over again.
INDIANOLA, Iowa -- Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., warned Democratic activists Sunday that the party must take a tougher stance on national security if it wants to succeed in the November elections. "What Democrats have to do is to close the deal," said Obama, the keynote speaker at Iowa Sen. Tom Harkin's 29th annual steak fry. "We have got to show we have a serious agenda for change."
Obama's appearance in Iowa, where precinct caucuses launch the presidential season, has raised a number of eyebrows about his intentions for a presidential run in 2008.
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Barack, you dems don't need a tougher stance on national security. You need a soul.
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What Democrats have to do is to close the deal," said Obama, the keynote speaker at Iowa Sen. Tom Harkin's 29th annual steak fry. "We have got to show we have a serious agenda for change."
Oppose NSA spying on terrorists? Check.
Oppose financial eavesdropping of Swift program? Check.
Oppose vigorous interrogation techniques on captured terrorists? Check.
Now... what's the closer? Issue driver's licenses for Al Qaeda?
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Their idea of being tough is to smile and nod through innumerable group-encounters with every two-bit country and interest group that has a gripe against the U.S.. The 'tough' part is not having the bitch-sessions catered.
As Dr A.Q. Khan undergoes surgery for cancer, Pakistan comes out in his support
It's Saturday, September 9, and people are thronging outside the posh Agha Khan hospital in Karachi. Inside the hospital's operation theatre is Dr Abdul Qadeer Khanfather of Pakistan's nuclear bomb and the symbol of the nation's military prowess and pridebeing operated upon for prostate cancer. Bouquets of flowers keep pouring in, as do messages from concerned citizens. There are people holding banners and placards reading: Dr Abdul Qadeer Khan get well soon. The entire nation is praying for Dr Qadeer's early recovery. Honour of the nationget well soon.
Among the throng are politicians patiently waiting to hear the latest health bulletin on Khan. Former PM Benazir Bhutto has announced her presence through flowers. Hundreds participate in the prayers that Jamaat-e-Islami senior leader Prof Ghafoor Ahmed leads, wishing for the controversial scientist's speedy recovery. Prof Ahmed said, "The government should lift restrictions on Qadeer Khan. A.Q. Khan is the benefactor of not only Pakistan, but the entire Muslim world."
The Uttar Pradesh Minister who offered Rs 51 crore for the head of the Danish cartoonist who caricatured Prophet Mohammed ended up paying a hefty fine today after he was found travelling in a train without a ticket.
It took 27 Northern Railways (NR) officials, 25 Railway Protection Force (RPF) and 10 Group for Railway Protection (GRP) cops to extract a fine of Rs 14,056 from Haji Yaqub Qureshi today.
NR officials present there said the UP Minister for Minorities Welfare and Haj abused them and threatened to get the entire family of one of the officials killed. The drama took place at Alamnagar railway station in the outskirts of Lucknow.
After receiving information from the Railway Board that the minister is travelling by Lucknow Mail without a ticket, we stopped the train around 7 am. After repeated requests, the minister finally opened the door of his AC-I coupe, and after much arguments produced the photocopy of his ticket and the high official requisition (HOR), said R.A. Ram, assistant commercial manager, NR.
According to the officials, the government provides its ministers with railway coupons and HOR forms. The person is expected to buy the ticket first, then the HOR form is sent to the Railways and the amount is debited to us, said an official.
When repeatedly asked to show the original tickets, Qureshi reportedly said he was being harassed as part of a political conspiracy.
I am writing to the Centre. I will later disclose the names of the people who are harassing me, he was quoted as saying. The officials said Qureshi also claimed that he and all his peon, gunners and aides had valid tickets. It was after about half-an-hour of heated arguments with the railway staff media had also reached the scene by then that Qureshi finally agreed to pay the fine.
Meanwhile, other travellers had to suffer, as the train got delayed by 45 minutes.
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the UP Minister for Minorities Welfare and Haj abused them and threatened to get the entire family
how dare an apostate question me, an entitled Muslim Bureaucrat.
NEW DELHI: A TV channel on Sunday aired purported footage of Muslim clerics in the national capital and Uttar Pradesh issuing fatwas for a payment, triggering condemnation of them by community leaders and protests in Meerut. The clerics allegedly issued fatwas on a variety of subjects, including the use of credit cards and camera phones by Muslims, acting in films, and watching television, said the report on Star News that carried out a sting operation along with Cobrapost in Delhi and Meerut.
One of the clerics, Ahmed Nadir Al Qasmi, was shown allegedly accepting Rs 5,000 for issuing a fatwa.
One of the clerics, Ahmed Nadir Al Qasmi, an official of Delhi-based Islamic Fiqh Academy, was shown allegedly accepting Rs 5,000 for issuing a fatwa. The footage also purportedly showed Maulana Imran, a cleric from Meerut, allegedly demanding Rs 50,000 for issuing five fatwas against the wearing of jeans by girls in Muslim-run institutes and the teaching of English in madarsas.
Maulana Imran, a cleric from Meerut, allegedly demanded Rs 50,000 for issuing fatwas against the wearing of jeans by girls in Muslim-run institutes and the teaching of English in madarsas.
In Meerut, students of a madarsa staged a protest against the clerics, saying the incident had "hurt" the community. Muslim leaders convened a meeting of clerics to decide whether action should be taken against those named in the sting operation. In a statement, Islamic Fiqh Academy general secretary Maulana Khalid Saifullah Rehmani expressed regret at the incident.
He said the body had launched a probe and would take action against anyone found guilty. Ahmed Nadir Al Qasmi had been restrained from issuing any more fatwas, he said. Rehmani said the academy was not responsible for Qasmi's actions. He said the academy did not charge anything for fatwas, which were issued only after they had been vetted by at least two clerics.
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The footage also purportedly showed Maulana Imran, a cleric from Meerut, allegedly demanding Rs 50,000 for issuing five fatwas against the wearing of jeans by girls in Muslim-run institutes and the teaching of English in madarsas.
I would think he would do this for free?
Girls wearing Jeans and attending College?
What horror!!
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And teaching the muslim children english.. terrible... suppose they get jobs in an outsourcing center.. and actually earn a living?
Then who will listn to maulanas?
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Once again, Modern Islam has the same sensibilities as Middle Ages Christianity
Al Qaeda operatives hijacked an Indian airliner in 1998 to secure the release of Pakistani militant Maulana Masood Azhar, Abu Jandal, a former guard of Osama Bin Laden disclosed in a one and a half hour documentary aired by Al-Jazeera Television on Saturday. The world's most wanted man's bodyguard recalled that Bin Laden welcomed Azhar after his release from an Indian jail preceding the hijacking of a plane that landed in of Kandahar and threw a lavish party in Azhar's honour.
Abu Jandal also said that Bin Laden's original plan to target the USS Cole in international waters failed to work in 1998 and instead, Al-Qaeda hit the warship while it was in Yemenite waters by mistake, something, he pointed out, was against the policy of Al Qaeda, ie to undertake acts which could be embarrassing for Muslim countries. He also narrated the exact details of Northern Alliance Leader Ahmed Shah Masood's assassination a day before 9/11 on the Taliban's request.
Abu Jandal said that on the day the Indian Airlines plane was hijacked, he was told to ready his Stinger missiles, and emergency was declared at the Kandahar Airport in 30 minutes. "I was told that other planes will also follow this one and there is a chance that the situation could deteriorate," he said. After two or three days, Bin Laden invited Azhar to a lavish party, thrown in his honour, where I was introduced to him, he said. I was astonished to discover that Azhar and Bin Laden already knew each other, he said.
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My immediate response to 9-11 was to advocate the immediate carpet bombing of Kandahar. To this day I continue to wonder if such an action might not have been the better message to send Islam. There would have been excellent chances of nailing mullah Omar and possibly bin Laden or some of his top brass.
Of course, I was roundly denounced for this. Back then I was sort of sorry for wanting such a thing. Now, I no longer am. Thank goodness I also predicted the use of fuel air bombs in the Afghanistan campaign and have never felt a single twinge of regret at Taleban having the lungs sucked out of their bodies.
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My immediate response to 9-11 was to advocate the immediate carpet bombing of Kandahar the ummah.
My suggestion, now.
After 9/11, I figured the Taliban would have to go, and that Saddam would likely need to go. After the anthrax attacks, my big worry was how we would respond to the WMD attack -- our policy was to respond in kind, and that meant someone would be getting nukes.
Of course, instead we assigned the least competent gang of morons we could find in the FBI and got to watch them chase geese and take their tips from political hack, conspiracy-mongering reporters. So we pissed away any resemblance of deterrence we had to WMD attacks.
Now, I don't care what happens to the world's Muslim population. They don't give a rat's ass about their own fate, and whip themselves into a fury every time we don't act like we're their slaves, so fuck 'em. Next natural disaster is Muslim lands shouldn't get a dime from the US, shouldn't even get assistance from our military. Helping them just pisses them off more, so let them rot.
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"We are the Black Widows, feared throughout the land!"
LAHORE: The dedication exhibited by the Pakistan Army, both in war and peacetime, had earned them international acclaim as a force maintaining splendid professional standards, said Lahore Corps Commander Lt General Shafaat Ullah Shah on Saturday.
Apparently international military circles are a polite bunch. As far as I'm aware, the Pak military has never actually succeeded in winning a war. I don't think that's any great secret, even in international military circles...
According to an Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) press release, he stated this at the National Standard and Regimental Colour Presentation ceremony of 'Al-Mughirat', an armoured regiment.
And if you can't trust Inter-Services Public Relations, who can you trust?
He said that the armoured corps' efforts for national defence were exalted in the country's military history. He said that the colour presentation ceremony was a befitting recognition and tribute to national heroes for the commendable services they had performed.
... whatever they were...
He said that such ceremonies had a symbolic significance and were Sunnah of the Holy Prophet (PTUI PBUH), who had awarded these colours to Hazrat Ali (RA) in the battle of Khyber.
Really? And they've been in the care of the Pak military all this while?
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LOL. Wow - lookit all those medals. They must be the baddest dudes around. Sure glad they're our "allies".
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The ones they sent to the Mog were considered as abysmal. Officers sent to sit it out and a 'political' reward for connections, not something to get into a fight with. From what I've read, nothing much has changed in the mean time.
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In 93 at Mogadishu, I worked with the Pak 10th Balak, in April of that year they had their asses handed to them at a food distribution site that was ambushed. One lieutenant who was shot in both arms pulled ammo out of belted ammunition with his teeth so his troops could press on the fight with their AKs. He bled out, two of his troops survived out of 12 When pressured into a fight they will!
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A Marine friend of mine who served in Somalia said his neighborhood watch could do a better job than the Pakistanis.
I don't doubt their bravery (in the right circumstances). I do doubt their technical competence. Don't forget several thousand Paki soldiers joined the Taliban to fight the Americans. They were helpless against our Special Forces.
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I used to hate seeing phrasing like that in the headline. Eventually, I kinda got used to it, as it happens with more regularity.
Key North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO) countries have decided not to issue a diplomatic ultimatum to Pakistan demanding that it end its support for the Taliban and arrest leaders living in Pakistan. NATO is placing all its hopes on a critical three-way meeting at the White House on September 27 when President Bush is due to meet Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf and Afghan President Hamid Karzai, reported Ahmed Rashid, writing for The Telegraph.
Two months ago senior diplomats from four NATO countries (Britain, Canada, Australia and the Netherlands), whose troops are fighting an estimated 8,000 Taliban in southern Afghanistan, collectively urged their governments to issue a démarche to Pakistan's military regime. They want it to arrest those Taliban commanders openly operating out of Quetta. However, after a fierce debate on the issue, the démarche was cancelled, with NATO members divided on whether or not to pressure Pakistan.
Britain cited co-operation with Pakistani intelligence in uncovering the recent London terrorist plot. But a Western ambassador in Islamabad said there was consensus among NATO, US and UK intelligence officers in Afghanistan that Quetta is the command and control centre for Taliban planning, logistics, and recruitment in Afghanistan.
Pakistan denies that it is sponsoring the Taliban. But for the first time since 2001 President Musharraf admitted this week in Brussels that the Taliban are using Pakistani soil to carry out attacks in Afghanistan. The recent intense fighting in southern Afghanistan is partly a Taliban attempt to carve out a safe haven where its leaders can reside during the winter months when fighting winds down.
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LOL. Same old shit - PakiLand Daily Slimes makes up bullshit headline cuz it feels good.
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President Musharraf admitted this week in Brussels that the Taliban are using Pakistani soil to carry out attacks in Afghanistan. The recent intense fighting in southern Afghanistan is partly a Taliban attempt to carve out a safe haven where its leaders can reside during the winter months when fighting winds down.
Interesting. What will they do if (when, it appears at the moment, given how much fun the Princess Pats are having playing with their toys -- it is the P.P.s, isn't it?) they don't manage to carve out a safe haven?
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Interesting. What will they do if (when, it appears at the moment, given how much fun the Princess Pats are having playing with their toys -- it is the P.P.s, isn't it?) they don't manage to carve out a safe haven?
Pakistan will always be a safe haven for taibunnies!
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Ok, so starting the first of January, begin ARCLIGHTing the he$$ out of the NWFP and surrounding areas, including Quetta. War over. If pakistan complains, nuke its 10 largest cities. War over. If anyone else gives us grief, we act appropriately, and with "extreme prejudice". I don't think we'll have much trouble after the first three or four bite the dust.
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HAVANA: Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh urged Non-Aligned Movement leaders on Friday not to take a conciliatory tone as they work to counter terrorism, and try to keep the Middle East peace process on track. If NAM is to be relevant in todays circumstances, it cannot afford to equivocate on the subject of terrorism, Singh told more than 55 leaders of state and government from the NAMs 118 developing-country member states. A message must emanate from us that we are united in our desire to fight and eliminate the scourge of terrorism. We cannot allow the forces of intolerance and extremism to distract the worlds attention from the vital concerns of our people - the problems of poverty, ignorance and disease, Singh stressed.
At a summit that has been rife with sharp words on US policy Singh appealed for a new inclusive globalisation. He also argued that as a group we have rejected extremes. We must spread the word of Gandhiji, the apostle of peace. Our voice must then be one of moderation, harmony and reason. If such is the voice of more than half of the people of the world, it will prevail.
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The delegates immediately agreed to condemn Israeli state terrorism. "That takes care of that," a spokesman said.
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If NAM is to be relevant in todays circumstances..."
Translation: NAM is an geriatric leftover irrelevance of the Communist Eastern Block era. (It's now nakedly exposed as purely an anti American gang which it has always been since the Bandung Conference).
Manmohan is trading with Israel. Wonder how long India should/could/would retain memebership with that sick gang?
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After NAM condemned the Indian nuclear tests in 1998, Indian leaders should have gotten a clue.
How Manmohan Singh attempts to convince the biggest group of terrorist supporting states that they should condemn terrorism?
They'll probably condemn "Indian state terrorism in Kashmir" after Pakistan sponsors the resolution.
Many Indians are quite appalled that he, the duly elected leader of 1 billion people, should attend this summit of despots and shake the hand of Pervez Musharraf, just weeks after terror bombings sponsored by Pakistan.
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How did little Chavez and Immadinnerjacket swallow that ? Anyone regurgitate ?
IT'S the most explosive video yet of our boys in Iraq... especially the rearguard action one cheeky squaddie takes to deal with a gas attack.
Today we show soldiers going over the top in a secret home made movie called Gulf War Syndrome that reveals how they let their hair down off duty.
One sets fire to his OWN HAIR while he and his mates mimic the crazy stunts of presenters on their favourite TV show, Jackass TV, with Johnny Knoxville and Steven "Steve-O" Glover.
We're not naming the barmy army or their regiment to protect their identities, but their madcap missions include one squaddie LEAPING James Bond-style between Army Land Rovers racing through Basra.
The soldier climbs on to the bonnet of the rear vehicle, then stands on the front bumper before diving into the back of the one in front.
The same daredevil is then seen JUMPING from the roof of a 30ft-high Army observation tower into a sewage tank.
He emerges smiling, and says: "Gulf War Syndrome. The things it makes us do." Next come some HOUDINI-STYLE stunts as a soldier is taped into a packing case at the top of some stairsand is then pushed down them. Another is rolled down a concrete ramp in a barrel.
Then it's ready, aim, SET FIRE to your backside as a squaddie's rear end explodes with the help of a colleague armed with a lighter.
Another soldier gets in on the act by setting fire to it as a comrade performs the "burning bush"lighting himself up at the, er, frontline.
But the most dangerous stunt involves a man in a flak jacket taking the full force of a PLASTIC BULLET fired by a colleague at his chest. In other scenes a soldier strolls around a Naafi store nearly NAKED, while another crams more than 20 Brazil nuts into his mouth.
A source said: "The lads love Jackass and it was a great way to stop thinking about all the death and destruction we saw." Link for videos at the bottom of the page.
Jordan's King Abdullah II said Saturday terrorists were exploiting U.S. mistakes since the Sept. 11 attacks five years ago to promote instability in the Middle East, according to a published report.
Abdullah made the remarks in an interview with the pan-Arabic daily al-Hayat published on the day he and his wife, Queen Rania, left for a five-day visit to the United States, where he also is expected to address the U.N. General Assembly.
"The American reaction" to terror attacks had "contributed to the empowerment of terrorist groups," the king said in the interview. He did not elaborate.
In the wake of those attacks, extremists were "trying to drive a wedge between East and West and exploit American errors in the region in the interest of fostering hatred and division," Abdullah said.
The king predicted a "bleak future" for the Mideast if Israeli-Palestinian peace talks do not resume in the coming weeks, urging an immediate return to the negotiating table.
"I am warning that unless we start within the next weeks and months with a comprehensive negotiating process between the Palestinians and Israelis, resulting in the establishment of an independent and geographically contiguous Palestinian state within a specified time, then people of this region will have to live many more difficult years characterized by violence" he said.
The monarch said international attention must return to the root cause of the conflict.
"Israel cannot, and the region cannot enjoy security unless the Palestinians enjoy stability. It is high time to return to the root causes of the conflict and the core issue, which is the Palestinian issue," he said in the interview.
The King has a serious case of projection. The US isn't the problem, the Middle East is the problem.
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The king predicted a "bleak future" for the Mideast if Israeli-Palestinian peace talks do not resume in the coming weeks, urging an immediate return to the negotiating table.
The usual, "If the Palestinian crisis is not resolved, no progress can be expected from any other Muslim country and, oh - by the way, it's all America's fault." They can fly this garbage straight up their shorts. I thought Jordan's new king had more than just shit for brains.
The Middle East has an extremely bleak future due to the continued existence of terrorism. They can stop this shit now and survive or keep it up and all die.
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The monarch said international attention must return to the root cause of the conflict.
Why would Abdullah say this? This is crap! If the Israeli-Paleostinian issue were to go away tomorrow, even if Israel itself were to just disappear, there would still be terrorism at the same level as before. Nobody is going to believe this for a minute? Is he still under the illusion that the world is still under this illusion? Maybe he honestly believes this?
Price of oil is falling. Payments from Gulf producers will be reduced. New source of revenue from west, relieved of high oil prices, must be cultivated. Good luck!
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Jordan doesn't have oil, though. For years they got by with cut price oil supplied by Saddam Hussein, but I don't know how that's been handled post-invasion. The king does have a large Palestinian population to keep pacified, but statements like this only buy temporary acquiescence.
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terrorists were exploiting U.S. mistakes since the Sept. 11 attacks five years ago to promote instability in the Middle East
Instability is a feature not a bug. The efforts of pre-9/11 were desperate to maintain stability that created terrorists who started off to overthrow the dictators and family based rulers of the region. On this the objectives of the terrorist and the US are similar, the difference is that the American president's plan is to spread democracy while the terrorist's is to install just another form of dictatorship. The 'old' regimes are just road kill in the both processes. So, what's the bug?
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The Paleos had their chance at stability, but they installed Hamas in their leadership, fired rockets over the border, and tunneled under it to abduct soldiers. The closest thing to a stable Paleo is a dead Paleo.
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King Abdullah's dog in this fight is the "right to return". He would desperately like to send all the Palestinians squatting in Jordan somewhere else. Since NOBODY wants Palestinians, he is stuck with them unless he can send them back to Israel or get the world to turn a blind eye to a little ethnic cleansing.
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The only way to "solve" the "palestinian" problem is to acknowledge there is no such thing as a "palestinian", and send the Arabs living in Gaza and the West Bank to Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, and Saudi Arabia - with or without the permission of the receiving states. It's either that or kill them all. Either result works for me.
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Aware that Prime Minister Ehud Olmert is under intense domestic pressure following the war in Lebanon, the EU will not - at least for the time being - press Israel to come out with a new diplomatic initiative, Middle East envoy Marc Otte has told The Jerusalem Post. "The Olmert government needs a bit of breathing space for internal debate following the war," Otte said. "We respect that need."
Otte's comments dovetail with other comments made recently by senior EU officials to the effect that the EU was not interested in pressuring Olmert to take steps toward the Palestinians that might make his political situation, already precarious, even more difficult. One official said the EU was not interested in doing anything that might bring a right-wing government to power.
Otte said he was unaware of the new ideas that Olmert, after meeting with British Prime Minister Tony Blair last week, said were being discussed to move the diplomatic process with the Palestinians forward. He also said he was unaware of any "extraordinarily bold" initiative about to be launched.
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I'll be glad when we don't see that picture any more. He's as distasteful as Clinton. But at least when he leaves office, we'll have heard the last of him. I doubt he'll be on the cover of Esquire.
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If they push Olmert, likely the Israelis would move more quickly to replace him with Bibi Natenyahu and Likud, and there would go all hope of their precious Land for Peace nonsense.
RAMALLAH: Palestinian Authority president Mahmoud Abbas is to meet US President George W Bush in New York on Wednesday, a Palestinian official said. "President Mahmoud Abbas is going to meet President Bush in New York on Wednesday after talks with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on Monday," chief negotiator Saeb Erakat told a news conference.
He was speaking after a meeting in the West Bank town of Ramallah Saturday between Abbas and US consul general in east Jerusalem Jacob Walles. Abbas and Bush last met in the United States in October last year. Wednesday's encounter will take place on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly, and comes as the Islamist movement Hamas and Abbas are trying to finalise the formation of a government of national unity in order to end a political crisis and Western boycott.
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What possible reason would president Bush have for meeting with this terrorist front man? Give the Palestinians the same treatment we give North Korea, malign neglect.
Jordan's King Abdullah said in remarks published on Saturday he had struggled to improve ties with Syria since Bashar al-Assad became president in 2000. Syria's relations with Jordan deteriorated in 1994 when Jordan signed a peace deal with Israel. Abdullah said he had wanted to improve ties in 2000, when former president Hafez al-Assad died and was replaced by his son.
"Frankly, I cannot say that they are excellent," Abdullah told the London-based al-Hayat newspaper when asked about ties with his northern neighbour. "I was intent, since President Bashar al-Assad became president, to turn a new page with Syria, the title of which would be confidence and working for what is in the interest of the two brotherly countries," he said. "But unfortunately we did not find a translation on the ground to the good intentions we were hearing," he said. Relations were strained again in April this year when Jordan discovered an arms cache that it said belonged to Palestinian militant group Hamas and had been smuggled across the border from Syria.
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Musta been that chemical bomb attack originating outta Syria in 2003 that stressed the relationship.
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Palestinian Prime Minister Ismail Haniya said Saturday that his ruling Hamas group won't formally recognise Israeli-Palestinian peace agreements, but will "work with" them. Haniya spoke a day after the EU held off on resuming direct aid to the Palestinian Authority. An emerging coalition government of Hamas and moderate Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah movement must first commit to the Middle East peacess process, EU leaders said Friday. The new government, which is to be formed in coming weeks, would work for the establishment of a Palestinian state alongside Israel - an implicit recognition of Israel by Hamas.
However, the US has signaled that this falls short of the international community's demands that the Islamic militant Hamas explicitly recognise Israel and accept existing peace agreements. Haniya suggested Saturday that Hamas would go no further than it already has.
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Well, that makes him zero for three on the road map preconditions.
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Starve, you moron genocidal bastards. You can be sure that Haniya never misses a meal, that privilege is reserved for the little people.
The head of Egypt's Coptic Orthodox Church on Saturday became the first top Christian leader to join the Muslim world in denouncing comments made by Pope Benedict XVI's about Islam and jihad, as religious and political leaders warned of impending sectarian violence despite the Vatican's insistence that the Roman Catholic leader's words were misinterpreted and he didn't intend to be offensive. Coptic Pope Shenouda III said in published remarks that he didn't hear Benedict's exact words but that "any remarks which offend Islam and Muslims are against the teachings of Christ."
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Of course, had he said anything else but this, being in Egypt, he would have put the Copts' lives at risk.
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"any remarks which offend Islam and Muslims are against the teachings of Christ."
"[A]ny remarks which offend Islam". Boy howdy, that doesn't leave much now does it? Big clue time; Every-effing-single-thing offends Islam. Even the stuff that doesn't offend Islam offends it if they feel like it on that particular day.
Tell you what, Shenouda, I can count the number of your church's followers without taking my pants off. Benedict happens to sheperd a much bigger flock and gives a hot damn about whether they're going to spend the rest of their lives kissing Islamic ass, something you do so regularly, you blow your nose with toilet paper.
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"any remarks which offend Islam and Muslims are against the teachings of Christ."
The remark that Jesus was the Son of God offends Islam and Muslims, as does the statement that he died on the cross and was resurrected. You can only believe these things if you reject the Koranic accounts of "Isa's" life. You wouldn't want to be rejecting the Koran there, would you Mr. Pope or whatever?
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The poor man. His entire congregation in Egypt, what's left of it after a thousand years of Muslim ravages is hostage to his words. Even when he gets it right, the men will still be beaten, the women ravaged and married off, the children kidnapped and disappeared forever.
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Did he say this before or after they threatened to behead him?
He's a high-ranking Christian in a Muslim land. The threat to be beheaded is an assumed constant.
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"any remarks which offend Islam and Muslims are against the teachings of Christ."
Christ made quite a few remarks that would offend Islam and Muslims.
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Of course, Islam wasn't even a blip on the radar when Christ was on earth, and wouldn't come along for another 700+ years.
So if you are going to claim that something goes against Christ's teachings, you are talking about general principles and not specifics. The general principles are too well known for me to enumerate them here. I'll just repeat what I said yesterday. Christ was not a milk-toast, and he NEVER advocated getting along with evil at any cost.
Pope Benedict XVI on Saturday apologised for causing any offence to Muslims amid growing fury across the Islamic world over a speech he made implicitly linking Islam and violence. "The Holy Father is extremely sorry that certain passages of his speech appeared offensive to Muslim believers and were interpreted in a way that does not correspond in any way to his intentions," said the Vatican's new secretary of state, Tarcisio Bertone. "The pope is unequivocally in favour of dialogue between religions and cultures," Bertone said, in his first official statement since taking office on Friday.
Anger with Pope Benedict XVI intensified across the Muslim world on Saturday, uniting Sunni Islam's leading authority, Malaysia's moderate premier and Afghanistan's extremist Taliban militia. The Vatican said the pope's comments on Tuesday linking Islam and violence had been misinterpreted, but Muslim leaders described them as offensive with many demanding an immediate apology. The head of Cairo's Al-Azhar university Sheikh Mohammed Sayyed Tantawi said on Saturday the pontiff's comments "betray a clear ignorance of Islam and attribute to the faith things which have nothing to do with it".
Sheikh Mohammed, Sunni Islams top authority, said the popes remarks do nothing to further dialogue between world religions and civilisations.
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I think it's hipocritical not to call for an appology from the dead guy as well.
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'... certain passages of his speech appeared offensive to Muslim believers and were interpreted in a way that does not correspond in any way to his intentions ...'
I believe this implies that the 'Muslim believers' can actually read. I have been unable to find any statement made by these 'Muslim believers' that would support this hypothesis.
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If they're upset it's because they can't read or can only read a little. I think the Pope should have known better than to even try what he did. Who was his target audience anyway? Maybe scholars could have kept up with him, but you know they're just going to twist what he says into something they can use to stoke the flames. Unless I hear some muslim groups saying something positive about this, then it would seem nothing will ever come of the present situation except for some serious examples being made out of Iran and Syria. At least. Then maybe we can all start a meaningful dialogue.
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I think the Pope should have known better than to even try what he did.
I think the Pope does know better, knew exactly what he was doing and did it anyway. In a feat of astounding compassion towards all who dwell in terrorism's shadow, he has made himself a stalking horse for Islam's predators. As a soldier of God, he has placed himself first in harm's way. He has done this despite having at his beck and call complete and total luxury with near-absolute security as well.
Benedict is living his philosophy, something that is both exceptional in a leader and especially laudable in a spiritual adviser. He is out to prove Islam for what it is, even at the cost of his own life. Given the threat that looms over so much of this world, his gesture is one that simultaneously utilizes his high position to best effect while humbly submitting himself to the danger every man,woman and child must face.
It is nothing short of exemplary leadership that this shepherd interposes himself twixt his flock and the wolves that circle it. His actions reach far beyond his own parisoners and, as Christ would have insisted, embraces one and all of us, Catholic or not.
Never have I admired a man of the cloth so much as Pope Benedict. He is giving Islam every chance to fulfill its claim as the Religion of Peace. That it is doing nothing of the sort should come as no surprise to anyone, least of all to Benedict himself.
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I'd agree Zen. And he did at least a half dozen other things in that speech. Spoke to the secular west, spoke to science, spoke to academics, expecially humanists, spoke to "moderate" Islam, spoke to the College of Cardinals, and spoke to his flock.
There's messages for each and all in that speech. And he's backing them up by going to Turkey. Into the lions den. Let's hope they prove to be the usual Lions of Islam℠; long on talk, short on action.
Well, long on action, short on thought anyway! ;-)
Yes, that looks like a good way to explain it. If he doesn't "apologize" in the end, it may well be proof.
The guy is fairly old. He was only supposed to be a placeholder, I thought. I wonder if the Cardinals picked him just for this kind of mission, leadership, and sacrifice knowing what was coming. Probably not, but just a thought.
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Some Catholics can speak up, but I had the impression that he is a real intellect with real positions on today's theological issues, and the CoC intended him to get the train back on the tracks in Europe before it's all over there. Like Bush, items not on his agenda seem to have taken it over. I doubt he's a placeholder by any means, because the next one may well be from the southern hemisphere and then the fireworks really begin.
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I'd guess a Pope from Venezuela is out of the question. :-)
With today's environment, you'd think they'd retreat a bit and stay with a player closer to home. I don't think a Pope from the southern hemisphere would be likely to play the Catholic hand properly from a European perspective. They should try that experiment when times are less interesting.
When Benedict was elected, one other strong contender was a Nigerian cardinal, Francis Arinze. He's got plenty of experience dealing with Muslims, especially the way they treat Christians when given half a chance.
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The Pope is a scholar and a hard-liner. What are the odds he got exactly the reaction he was looking for? I suspect he thinks the Muslims are irrational by western standards and can't be trusted and he wanted to prove his point by demostrating that fact. Unfortuately, some poor nun in Somalia is the price.
WASHINGTON [MENL] -- Iran has adopted North Korea's war strategy against the United States.
U.S. intelligence sources said Iran has invested in the production of North Korean command and control systems for a missile war against the United States. The sources said Iranian engineers and military officers have been training in Pyongyang to wage a nuclear war against a much stronger opponent.
"Teheran has assessed that the United States is preparing a massive strike to destroy Iran's nuclear weapons program," an intelligence source said. "The Iranians see North Korea as its only ally in any defensive effort."
Over the last year, the sources said, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps has conducted exercises in both Iran and North Korea to test nuclear war scenarios. They said about a dozen senior IRGC engineers attended the North Korean launch of the Taepo Dong-2 intermediate-range missile in July 2006. NICOSIA [MENL] -- Tension has increased between the military and government in the Republic of Cyprus.
Cypriot government sources said senior officials have become alarmed over attempts by a clique of senior military commanders to determine decisions regarding the defense budget and the National Guard. The sources said some of the commanders were believed to have been receiving support from the communist Akel Party.
"Outrageous things are going on in the armed forces," former Defense Minister Socrates Hasikos, today an opposition parliamentarian, said.
The Republic of Cyprus, an ally of Greece and which serves as a military base for Britain, France and the United States, has become a leading component in Western security. The European Union member has joined efforts to block weapons of mass destruction shipments through the Mediterranean.
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North Korean command and control systems for a missile war against the United States
An old commodore 64 programmed by a few chimps would probably be more reliable.
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North Korea has already announced it is not afraid to take alleged "preemptive" action(s)+ asymetric warfare against the USA- US interests. Any such North Korean policy, however, would not be inconsistent wid the Chicom's "Assassin's Mace" and "War/Battle Zone" strategems which prioritize IMMEDIATE NUCLEAR ESCALATION + NUCLEARIZED "SEIXE-AND HOLD" agz US-Allied milfors. THEIR ULTIMATE ACE ARE ANTI-AMERICAN/WESTERN AMERICANS + ASIANISTS/
EURASIANISTS/ORIENTALISTS, ETC. ALREADY ENTRENCHED OR ESTABLISHED WITHIN THE AMER NPE IN WASHINGTON. * Remember, Great Bill Clinton labeled the GOP-Right as FASCISTS during his first campaign for POTUS in the aearly 1990's, which mainstream America then did not understand why until 9-11 occurred, ala CREEPING/GRADUAL COMMUNISM-SOCIALISM, PCorrect + PDeniable.
In an interview with UPI, Former Syrian Vice President Abdel Halim Khaddam reiterated his claim that Syrian President Bashar Assad is to blame for the murder. Asked why Assad was absent from the summit of Non-Aligned Movement nations in Cuba, Khaddam said Bashar cant sleep at night. He is very fearful regarding the internal situation and is afraid to leave the country for fear he may not be able to return.
The recent remarks made by Pope Benedict XVI on Islam are threatening to ignite the entire Muslim world. Op-Eds published in the Arab newspapers slammed the pope even after the Vaticans apology. Which was a non-apology
The most extreme opinion was voiced by Hani Pahas in the London-based Arabic-language daily newspaper Al-Hayat, who wrote the popes comments may lead to war; we fear that the popes statements may lead to a war that we, Muslims and Christians alike, are trying to prevent through dialogue between East and West.
Hussein Shabakshy wrote in an article published by the London-based Arabic-language newspaper al-Sharq al-Awsat It is clear that such remarks only contribute to the fueling of the fire raging between Islam and the West. There is no difference between Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri speaking from their caves in Tora Bora and the stage of an important Christian saint. Both parties contribute to the world verbal weapons for mass destruction.
These are ignorant comments previously made by Adolf Hitler, who spoke of a supreme white race against all the other races, especially the African race.
Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood said a Vatican statement on Saturday saying Pope Benedict was sorry for upsetting Muslims with his comments on Islam did not go far enough. Too bad, so sad. Glad you understood that, though.
The spiritual leader of Lebanon's Sunnis, the Grand Mufti Sheik Mohammed Rashid Kabbani, said the pope's remarks emanated either from "Ignorance and lack of knowledge or were deliberately intended to distort Islam."
"Reason is the substance of Islam and its teachings ... Islam prohibited violence in human life. Anyone who wants the truth (about Islam) must take it from Islam's holy book, the Koran, rather than from a dialogue or excerpts," he said. I didn't know chutzpah was Islamic.
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Uh, you're already at war, remember, it started not because someones honour had been sullied., but because one nation was hit by a massive sneak attack that crippled its economy and killed a great number of its citizens. That how wars start
Get over yourselves.
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What there saying is that this might rip the veil held up by the apologist who chant 'Religion of Peace' and 'Moderate Muslim' and show the *true* face of Islam for everyone to see.
Once that happens everyone will see what kind of demonic and hatefull religion Islam really is. Then there will be war.
Why do you think they don't want anything know about Mohammand except from their Imans and insitutions like CAIR?
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Is it possible that so many of the comments from what passes for intellectuals in the Arab world are patently ridiculous stems from the intense study of the Koran? It appears that formal logic and reasoning are unislamic in origin and hence haram. One more reason why the Islamic world is a motley collection of thirdworld shitholes.
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Does anyone here not want total war against the Islamic enemy? Pax Americana would be 100 times preferable to the current phase of the GWOT.
We have the means to pacify this enemy. Instead we are allowing them to migrate to our countries, while incorporating terrorists within pseudo democratic processes abroad. That is suicide.
Lebanon's Foreign Minister Fawzi Salloukh on Saturday criticized German Chancellor Angela Merkel's comments about German participation in the peacekeeping efforts and urged Berlin to be an "unbiased" contributor to the UN mission in Lebanon. "We expect a friendly country such as Germany to be balanced and unbiased in dealing with its (peacekeeping) mission," told reporters in Beirut.
He was commenting on remarks Merkel made Wednesday after Germany's Cabinet approved the deployment of warships to Lebanon as part of the expanded United Nations peacekeeping force known as UNIFIL. "This decision was made in view both of our particular responsibility for Israel's right to exist, and for a solid solution for peace in the region," Merkel said. In comments reported by Lebanon's official National News Agency, Salloukh said, "UNIFIL's mission is to secure peace and stability and help Lebanese authorities protect civilians where they are deployed. Anyone who feels obliged to protect Israel should deploy his troops on the other side of the border to carry out this mission."
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Translation: Get with the Worldwide Moral Equivalency Campaign, Angela!
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Here they go again, these nervy Islamic whackos and their bald-faced demands. Force these maroons to deliver their requests in person. Then snuff them if they make their usual outlandish demands.
"As you spend millions of Deutschmarks helping our terrorist nation stabilize, we demand that you do not mention Israel's right to ex ... KABLAMMO!"
BEIJING: Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao has urged Iran to show more flexibility on its nuclear programme but said there was still hope for a negotiated settlement to the standoff, state media reported on Saturday. Wen made the comments in a Friday meeting with Iranian Vice-President Ali Saidlu on the sidelines of a meeting of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation, a regional security forum, in Tajikistan's capital, Dushanbe.
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Translation: You mullahs be sure to refine both uranium and plutonium.
HAVANA: Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad claimed on Friday that the United States was the real nuclear threat and reiterated that Tehran's nuclear atomic programme had peaceful aims. "Why should people live under the nuclear threat of the United States?" he asked at a summit of the 118-strong Non-Aligned Movement in Havana. "What is the UN Security Council waiting for to react to those threats?" he asked. He urged his counterparts to help "counter attempts to prevent Iran from developing its peaceful nuclear activity."
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"The United States was the real nuclear threat"
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You can tell he's been swapping spit with Chavez.
I dont think spit was the only bodily fluid but lets not go there -- please.
If the're nuclear programme only has peaceful means then why all the secrecy? Why not take the EU up on its proposals? What does a country, swimming in oil, need nuclear power for?
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There is nothing wrong with our ability to kick your whiney Islamic ass. Do not attempt to interfere. We are controlling the situation. If we wish to kick it harder, we will go all Medieval. If we wish to kick it softer, we will only open up a six-pack on you. We will control the duration. We will control the intensity. We can roll you up; make your eyelids flutter. We can smear you into soft blur or sharpen your pencil with a machete. For the next hour, sit quietly and we will beat on you until only your hair doesnt hurt. We repeat: there is nothing wrong with you that a prolonged ass-kicking cant cure. You are about to be on the receiving end of a major smackdown. You are about to experience the shock and awe which reaches from inside our missile silos to Tehrans city limits.
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Thank you, Swamp Gal. Just as I was heading off to bed I stumbled across this post and it pissed me waaaaay off. I began with "We will control the horizontal, we will control the vertical" and then it struck me what perfect subject matter this was for a rewrite. Glad you liked it.
TYRE: The International Red Cross said on Saturday its officials had met three captured Hezbollah fighters in Israel and urged the Jewish state to declare the number of Lebanese guerrillas in its jails. Andreas Wigger, head of the international committee's delegation in Lebanon, also asked Hezbollah's top official in southern Lebanon, Sheikh Nabil Kaouk, to allow his group access to the two Israeli soldiers snatched by the guerrilla group, ICRC spokesman Hisham Hassan said. "We have already visited three Hezbollah combatants currently in Israeli jails," Wigger told reporters after meeting Kaouk in the southern port city of Tyre. He said the organisation would meet relatives of the captives to pass on verbal messages from them. Hassan told Reuters negotiations with Hezbollah and Israel for both sides to allow the Red Cross access to all prisoners were ongoing.
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TYRE: Hezbollah said on Saturday it would have no problem with UN peacekeepers as long as they stick to defending Lebanon against Israel, two days after the French general who leads the troops hinted they would disarm the Shiite group if the Lebanese army does not.
The UN Interim Force in Lebanon is here to protect the Lebanese and Lebanons sovereignty, and we want its mandate limited to that, in which case there will be no problems, Nabil Qaouk, the groups chief in the south, told AFP. We want the new UNIFIL to do its work in conformity with UN Security Council Resolution 1701, which led to an August 14 truce in the war between Israel and Hezbollah. Israel is seeking to have this force play a new role, in other words, to place it under its control. We hope that Europe and the French will not be under American control and will be the closest friends of the Lebanese and the Arab world.
More than 7,000 troops from EU countries will make up the backbone of an expanded UNIFIL presence in Lebanon, which is due to total up to 15,000. Under Resolution 1701, they are deploying in south Lebanon, along with an equal number of Lebanese troops, as Israel progressively withdraws from the country. Resolution 1701 calls for establishing an area free of any armed personnel, assets and weapons other than those of the government of Lebanon and of UNIFIL between the Israeli border and the Litani River, a strategic waterway that runs between five and 30 kilometres (three and 19 miles) north of the border. It stipulates that UNIFIL should assist the Lebanese armed forces in achieving that.
In part, this is an allusion to Hezbollah, which precipitated the war by capturing two Israeli soldiers in a July 12 cross-border raid. Israel launched the war with two objectives - to free the soldiers and to eliminate Hezbollahs ability to attack it from southern Lebanon. Hezbollah has agreed to abide by the ceasefire, but has resolutely refused to lay down its arms until it is satisfied that Israel has ended its occupation of Lebanese territory.
Its chief, Hassan Nasrallah, said this week that his forces are present in the whole south of Lebanon and that nobody can prevent us from being present on our territory or from defending our territory, our honour and our homeland.
But in an interview Thursday in the French daily La Croix, General Alain Pellegrini said UNIFIL would act on its own if necessary. If the (Lebanese army) fails to act, we must assume our responsibilities as a UN force, he said. Someone will have to intervene, with all the consequences that this might have for the Lebanese authorities.
Resolution 1701 does not spell out how south Lebanon should be freed of illicit arms, but says UNIFIL should assist the Lebanese armed forces in taking steps towards that end. It also builds on the foundations of Resolution 1559, adopted in late 2004, and 1655, adopted in January.
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Bold talk for a frog. I hope you mean it, as you well know the Leb Army(chuckle, chuckle) will not dare do one damn thing. If you can disarm them, fine. If they resist, you'll be up front until the Israelies can get back in to reinforce you.
WASHINGTON'S biggest enemies, from communist Cuba to North Korea, called on developing nations overnight to challenge US dominance through a revived Non-Aligned Movement labelled a Cold War relic by critics.
More than 50 heads of state and leaders from over 100 Third World countries, among them Iran and Venezuela, rejected US use of the "axis of evil" label and supported Tehran's right to nuclear technology for peaceful use.
"American imperialism is in decline. A new, bi-polar world is emerging," Venezuela's leftist President Hugo Chavez said.
"The non-aligned group has been relaunched to unite the South under its umbrella," Chavez, who will host a visit in Caracas by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Sunday, told Venezuelan television from Havana.
But governments with friendly ties to Washington, among them India, Pakistan, Malaysia, Chile, Peru and Colombia, sought to steer the summit way from confrontation and finger-pointing at the United States.
"I don't regard this summit as anti-US, or for that matter anti-anybody," Malaysian Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi told a news conference.
Cuba, which hosted the summit under the new leadership of Raul Castro because his brother and iconic revolutionary Fidel Castro was still recovering from life-threatening surgery, said the movement was reborn.
"The idea that the movement must go beyond statements and take action in international forums has gained force here. Our strength must emerge from our numbers," Cuban Foreign Minister Felipe Perez Roque. NAM nations are almost two thirds of the UN.
Leaders took turns at the podium to criticise global poverty, unfair trade practices and "arbitrary" actions by powerful nations that they complained controlled the United Nations. Some said NAM should be strengthened as an alternative.
North Korea took the opportunity to blast the United States for unilateral actions against individual countries and joined the call for a revitalized NAM to raise a united voice.
"The United States is attempting to deprive other countries of even their legitimate right to peaceful nuclear activities," North Korea's second-ranking leader, Kim Yong-nam, said.
North Korea, which defied international warnings by test-firing ballistic missiles in July, will not return to talks on ending its nuclear programs under growing US sanctions, he said.
Mr Kim, who heads North Korea's parliament, said in a speech that United States was "abusing the human rights issue" to interfere in the internal affairs of countries not allied to it.
The NAM, founded in 1961 by nations that wanted to assert their independence from both Washington and Moscow, backed Iran's right to development, research and production of nuclear energy. It also urged Iran to continue cooperating with the International Atomic Energy Agency.
Tehran has cut back on short-notice UN inspections and ignored a Security Council deadline of August 31 to stop enriching uranium, a process that could yield atomic bombs.
In one concrete result of the summit, nuclear-armed neighbours India and Pakistan agreed to resume formal peace negotiations that were frozen after the July train bombings in Mumbai.
The agreement came after Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh met Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf on the fringes of the summit. New Delhi had said the carnage that killed 186 people on July 11 was plotted by a Pakistan-based group of Islamic militants.
Fidel Castro, a symbol of opposition to Washington, was supposed to preside over the summit but was too ill to attend. He received UN Secretary General Kofi Annan in a dressing gown in his hospital room.
The 80-year-old leader, who took power in a revolution in 1959, ceded power temporarily to his brother Raul Castro on July 31 after undergoing surgery to stop intestinal bleeding.
Raul, 75, who lacks his brother's oratorical skills, shed his military uniform for a business suit to host the summit and read brief speeches.
Mr Chavez, with his penchant for banter and controversy, looks the natural heir to Castro, his friend and ally, as a leading US opponent.
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It looks like the evidence for Blair's Law - "that all the world's idiots are joining together to create a giant, useless force" is gathering strength.
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Why not challenge US dominance in the realms of technology and economy?
That would require giving their people education and liberty. A bit too dangerous for the "non-aligned" nations.
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What these idiots dont understand is that anything that they build in a global economy will be publically financed and the US will end up owning a good portion of it anyway.
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Mmmm, Third String, I mean World wants to run the big league.
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Remember that the MSM will *only* pay attention to the radicals, even if they only blather for 1% of the total. If the conference is entirely moonbat, then they will just say it went well, and not report what was said.
As with anything else, money talks, and the more democratic and prosperous countries will steer the majority towards neutrality.
#11
But-t-t I thought the Left-MSM > said America has to be CONSTRAINED + RESTRAINED + CONTROLLED + OBET THE UNO-WORLD COMMUNITY, espec from upholding the credibility of the UNO and UNO Resolutions each and every time Saddam's boyz fired at UN-spons recce aircraft over the no-fly zones. AMERICA HAS TO LEAD THE WORLD BY EXAMPLE, WHICH IS WHY AMERICA AND ONLY AMERICA IS THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS TO SURRENDER - USA SURRENDER NOW, D ***ng it.
#12
"A new BI-POLAR WORLD is emerging" > Space-crats vs Earthies/Terra for Terrans??? Northern Hemisphere vs South??? DEATH STAR "A-D" CLASS vs CAMELS FOREVER???
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(SomaliNet) Somalia's Islamic Courts slapped the US terrorism policy in the face when they elected Sheik 
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As Dr A.Q. Khan undergoes surgery for cancer, Pakistan comes out in his support
Al Qaeda operatives hijacked an Indian airliner in 1998 to secure the release of Pakistani militant Maulana Masood Azhar, Abu Jandal, a former guard of Osama Bin Laden disclosed in a one and a half hour documentary aired by Al-Jazeera Television on Saturday. The world's most wanted man's bodyguard recalled that Bin Laden welcomed Azhar after his release from an Indian jail preceding the hijacking of a plane that landed in of Kandahar and threw a lavish party in Azhar's honour.
LAHORE: The dedication exhibited by the Pakistan Army, both in war and peacetime, had earned them international acclaim as a force maintaining splendid professional standards, said Lahore Corps Commander Lt General Shafaat Ullah Shah on Saturday.
HAVANA: Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh urged Non-Aligned Movement leaders on Friday not to take a conciliatory tone as they work to counter terrorism, and try to keep the Middle East peace process on track. If NAM is to be relevant in todays circumstances, it cannot afford to equivocate on the subject of terrorism, Singh told more than 55 leaders of state and government from the NAMs 118 developing-country member states. A message must emanate from us that we are united in our desire to fight and eliminate the scourge of terrorism. We cannot allow the forces of intolerance and extremism to distract the worlds attention from the vital concerns of our people - the problems of poverty, ignorance and disease, Singh stressed. 
Aware that Prime Minister Ehud Olmert is under intense domestic pressure following the war in Lebanon, the EU will not - at least for the time being - press Israel to come out with a new diplomatic initiative, Middle East envoy Marc Otte has told The Jerusalem Post. "The Olmert government needs a bit of breathing space for internal debate following the war," Otte said. "We respect that need." 
RAMALLAH: Palestinian Authority president Mahmoud Abbas is to meet US President George W Bush in New York on Wednesday, a Palestinian official said. "President Mahmoud Abbas is going to meet President Bush in New York on Wednesday after talks with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on Monday," chief negotiator Saeb Erakat told a news conference.
Jordan's King Abdullah said in remarks published on Saturday he had struggled to improve ties with Syria since Bashar al-Assad became president in 2000. Syria's relations with Jordan deteriorated in 1994 when Jordan signed a peace deal with Israel. Abdullah said he had wanted to improve ties in 2000, when former president Hafez al-Assad died and was replaced by his son. 
Palestinian Prime Minister Ismail Haniya said Saturday that his ruling Hamas group won't formally recognise Israeli-Palestinian peace agreements, but will "work with" them. Haniya spoke a day after the EU held off on resuming direct aid to the Palestinian Authority. An emerging coalition government of Hamas and moderate Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah movement must first commit to the Middle East peacess process, EU leaders said Friday. The new government, which is to be formed in coming weeks, would work for the establishment of a Palestinian state alongside Israel - an implicit recognition of Israel by Hamas. 
The head of Egypt's Coptic Orthodox Church on Saturday became the first top Christian leader to join the Muslim world in denouncing comments made by Pope Benedict XVI's about Islam and jihad, as religious and political leaders warned of impending sectarian violence despite the Vatican's insistence that the Roman Catholic leader's words were misinterpreted and he didn't intend to be offensive. Coptic Pope Shenouda III said in published remarks that he didn't hear Benedict's exact words but that "any remarks which offend Islam and Muslims are against the teachings of Christ."
Pope Benedict XVI on Saturday apologised for causing any offence to Muslims amid growing fury across the Islamic world over a speech he made implicitly linking Islam and violence. "The Holy Father is extremely sorry that certain passages of his speech appeared offensive to Muslim believers and were interpreted in a way that does not correspond in any way to his intentions," said the Vatican's new secretary of state, Tarcisio Bertone. "The pope is unequivocally in favour of dialogue between religions and cultures," Bertone said, in his first official statement since taking office on Friday. 
Lebanon's Foreign Minister Fawzi Salloukh on Saturday criticized German Chancellor Angela Merkel's comments about German participation in the peacekeeping efforts and urged Berlin to be an "unbiased" contributor to the UN mission in Lebanon. "We expect a friendly country such as Germany to be balanced and unbiased in dealing with its (peacekeeping) mission," told reporters in Beirut. 
HAVANA: Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad claimed on Friday that the United States was the real nuclear threat and reiterated that Tehran's nuclear atomic programme had peaceful aims. "Why should people live under the nuclear threat of the United States?" he asked at a summit of the 118-strong Non-Aligned Movement in Havana. "What is the UN Security Council waiting for to react to those threats?" he asked. He urged his counterparts to help "counter attempts to prevent Iran from developing its peaceful nuclear activity."
TYRE: The International Red Cross said on Saturday its officials had met three captured Hezbollah fighters in Israel and urged the Jewish state to declare the number of Lebanese guerrillas in its jails. Andreas Wigger, head of the international committee's delegation in Lebanon, also asked Hezbollah's top official in southern Lebanon, Sheikh Nabil Kaouk, to allow his group access to the two Israeli soldiers snatched by the guerrilla group, ICRC spokesman Hisham Hassan said. "We have already visited three Hezbollah combatants currently in Israeli jails," Wigger told reporters after meeting Kaouk in the southern port city of Tyre. He said the organisation would meet relatives of the captives to pass on verbal messages from them. Hassan told Reuters negotiations with Hezbollah and Israel for both sides to allow the Red Cross access to all prisoners were ongoing.
TYRE: Hezbollah said on Saturday it would have no problem with UN peacekeepers as long as they stick to defending Lebanon against Israel, two days after the French general who leads the troops hinted they would disarm the Shiite group if the Lebanese army does not.
