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2006-09-17 Britain

CCTV Police Cameras Now Barking Orders At Citizens

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Posted by Anonymoose 2006-09-17 09:54|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 "Demolition Man" comes immediately to mind, where the wall mounted monitors printed out a small fine for any misbehaviour, and Stalone used them to wipe his ass.

Posted by Redneck Jim 2006-09-17 11:15|| 2006-09-17 11:15|| Front Page Top

#2 It's much easier to bark at one's own local citizens through a loudspeaker and camera than it is to root out the violent Islamicists that would destroy their society. So guess which one they're doing?

Posted by Steve White">Steve White 2006-09-17 12:10|| 2006-09-17 12:10|| Front Page Top

#3 Put one in rhe Mayor's office, Home, and any place he frequents, allow the citizens to comment on his "Transgressions" and see how long the cameras stay active.
My guess is about one day.

Sauce for the Goose.......

Posted by Redneck Jim 2006-09-17 12:15|| 2006-09-17 12:15|| Front Page Top

#4 I can just see one of these in America, the video highlights would be hilarious.

Posted by djohn66 2006-09-17 13:41|| 2006-09-17 13:41|| Front Page Top

#5 I can just see one of these in America

So can I, and in less than five minutes it would probably be peppered worse than a rural Texas stop sign.

Posted by Zenster 2006-09-17 14:03|| 2006-09-17 14:03|| Front Page Top

#6 If a civilian oversight group monitors the police monitors, this might work. The surveillance tapes and the officers statements could be archived. If a citizen complained about harassment then a civilian representative could review the tape and the officers action. If the tape disappeared, that would be a strong indicator of official misconduct. Such as system could improve public safety while also protecting individual rights.

(AI programs are being developed to recognize unusual behavior. An AI could filter video from many sites to alert a police monitor of suspicious activity. Local citizen groups could also be recruited to monitor public cameras.)

The broken window affect in which attention to minor crimes reduces major crime is relevant.

People behave differently when they are aware someone is watching. Even putting a picture of a watching face in a public place affects behavior. (In the experiment people took smaller portions of free food, presumably because under scrutiny they didnt want to take more than a fair share.)

Re: Put one in rhe Mayor's office, Home, and any place he frequents,

If the Mayor were in public, he would be monitored, as would everyone else. His private activities should be protected by the same laws that protect all citizens.

Posted by Hupeger Creamble4059 2006-09-17 14:42|| 2006-09-17 14:42|| Front Page Top

#7 I can just see one of these in America, the video highlights would be hilarious

Well you don't have to look very far. There are hundreds of them now, all over the US, mostly in the parking lots of cenvenience stores, near ATMs, and other loitering and possible crime problem areas. Right now I only know of two systems that are monitored by police; the rest are monitored by private security. They literally yell through the speaker at the loiterers, and tell them to get the hell off the premises. It seems to work.

Posted by mcsegeek1 2006-09-17 15:00|| 2006-09-17 15:00|| Front Page Top

#8 The biggest problem I can imagine in the future is the enforcement of petty, frivolous, and ill-conceived local laws. As many as 50% of the laws on the books in some places are never enforced, because they are silly, unlawful, or poorly written.

For example, can you imagine how awful it would be for pedestrians to be barked at for jaywalking, all day, on a underused sidestreet between two businesses with considerable traffic between them?

Say, if in the course of a day you crossed that street five or ten times, and the police wanted you to walk a block out of your way just to use the intersection? Almost never any danger, *but* *it* *is* *the* *law*.

Conversely, a group of teenagers peacefully gathers on a spot on a public street. Do the police have the right to "shoo" them away, just because they don't like them standing there?

Same with a couple making out. For some reason, lots of police hate to see couples kissing in public.

A man walking his dog. "Clean that up!" With what? "I don't care, pick it up with your hand!"

It is a good indicator of ineffectual government when they are obsessive about the little things in peoples' lives. It means that they aren't dealing with the big things they were hired to take care of.

Posted by Anonymoose 2006-09-17 16:26|| 2006-09-17 16:26|| Front Page Top

#9 Brits must be awash in $$$ iff their surveillance systems can go from watching to warning.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2006-09-17 23:59|| 2006-09-17 23:59|| Front Page Top

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