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-Short Attention Span Theater-
A Leftie Blog Calls for Bush’s Death
Via Instapundit. EFL

A blog calling for Bush’s death. The Left has gone off the deep end and is floating in outer space.

Seattle, July 4, 2004

I, David Blomstrom, a candidate for state office (Washington State Superintendent of Public Instruction),
that figures
hereby declare my belief that President George W. Bush deserves and should receive the death penalty, after the appropriate legal or quasi-legal formalities. I urge other patriotic Americans and foreign nationals alike to openly call for Bush’s execution. Furthermore, I sent my first press release announcing my position to Al-Jazeera in a symbolic gesture designed to call attention to the corruption that runs rampant in America’s media. He’s got that part right, but he’s seriously stupid if he thinks Al-Jiz isn’t just as bad, if not worse.

Let me first emphasize that this is not a death threat.
Afraid of a visit by the Secret Service, Davey?
Nor is it designed to encourage physical attacks. On the contrary, such an assault would probably accomplish nothing,
Nothing you’re interested in, anyway; it might mean he gets more votes
for a number of reasons.

Obviously, I wouldn’t have the authority to take any elected official into custody, even if I was elected to the office I’m seeking.
Which the moonbats in Washington probably will. And it’s "even if I were," idiot. You’ll fit right in with the rest of the far-left "education" establishment.
It shoud be equally obvious that my statement is therefore a symbolic gesture.

However, symbols can be powerful forces, and words and ideas often translate into action. I believe my gesture can play a role in toppling Bush — just for starters. I’ll bet you believe in the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy, too, dorkface. Wotta maroon.

Read the rest at the link if you can stomach it. BDS at its finest worst.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 07/09/2004 9:43:56 PM || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Julius Streicher: Follow his path, share his fate. For better or worse, Bush is the leader of the civilized world's resistance to dark-age superstition, totalitarianism, and genocide. To call for his death is to advance those causes, and Streicher, of course, actually did hang for just that.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 07/09/2004 22:53 Comments || Top||

#2  A little caught up in your self importance there, Dave?
Who the fuck cares what you think, little insignificant man?
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/09/2004 23:32 Comments || Top||

#3  Here's his bio, courtesy of LT SMASH.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/politics/election2003/bios/bio-blomstrom_david.html

Major, major, major loser!
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/09/2004 23:47 Comments || Top||

#4  Dave! I announce your nomination for a jet fuel enema Dave! You are a wack job.

I actually don't much care for my president but he is my president and we are in a a real war. Not some fake war like the "war on drugs" or the "war on poverty." The real shooting kind. Stupid incestious losers like you are the problem Dave, not George Bush. Get with the program or get the hell out of the way.
Posted by: FlameBait93268 || 07/10/2004 0:39 Comments || Top||

#5  actualy iam see this several days ago. someone is give link to it at janeane garafolo blog. that actualy just one page. this in home page:

http://www.jail4bush.org/

beleeve it or not biggest bush hater at garafolo blog is give the link but even she is thought it go to far.from what i am see most are not this extremer.
Posted by: muck4doo || 07/10/2004 0:59 Comments || Top||

#6  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Antiwar TROLL || 07/10/2004 11:20 Comments || Top||

#7  Too far.
Posted by: Antiwar || 07/10/2004 11:20 Comments || Top||


pig and dog dna are just not mix
A Kenyan mayor has ordered more than 500 pigs to be shot dead because they were mating with stray dogs, the East African Standard has reported. A squad of town council guards moved from estate to estate shooting pigs roaming free in Nyahururu town, 95 miles north of the capital Nairobi. Town mayor Muritu Karumba said he ordered Thursday’s cull to avoid an outbreak of disease caused by the pigs and dogs mating, which he said broke the laws of nature and "caused unnecessary commotion". But the unfortunate pigs’ owners immediately cried foul, claiming collusion between Nyahururu’s authorities and the town’s bacon traders to cut competition in pork supplies.
ima let you guys coment this. sorry jen but story like this are just cant pass up.
Posted by: muck4doo || 07/09/2004 1:11:47 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Mmmmm... Swinehound!
Posted by: Fred || 07/09/2004 14:33 Comments || Top||

#2  Pot-bellied terrier?
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 07/09/2004 14:40 Comments || Top||

#3  You don't frighten us, Kenyan PigDogs! Go and boil your bottoms!
Posted by: BH || 07/09/2004 14:42 Comments || Top||

#4  so you can get shot fer mating with stray dogs?

um.

uhh.

ahem. *coff* *coff*

gotta go.
Posted by: PlanetDan || 07/09/2004 14:51 Comments || Top||

#5  Man, that's some funky bacon...
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/09/2004 16:59 Comments || Top||

#6  This really is BS! What would you get? A Dig or a Pog? Maybe a Digpog. This gives a whole new meaning to Weinerdog!
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 07/09/2004 18:02 Comments || Top||

#7  deacon this is seem fishy to me to. who and how are they identify the pigs and dog that are partake in this unholy orgy?
Posted by: muck4doo || 07/09/2004 18:06 Comments || Top||

#8  This has got to be bogus. A dog can outrun a pig any day.

Wonder if this is where the Germans got the word "Schweinhund"?

TGA, ya' out there? :-p
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 07/09/2004 18:33 Comments || Top||

#9  I'm confused. Just who was getting screwed, the pigs or the dogs?
Posted by: Sgt.DT || 07/09/2004 19:27 Comments || Top||

#10  Zionist entity plot to perfect a Muslim-Offensive animal...
_________better to wrap the Islamofascists in...
Posted by: borgboy || 07/09/2004 19:39 Comments || Top||

#11  Now I know what Inspector Clousseau meant by his epithet: SWINEDOG!
Posted by: borgboy || 07/09/2004 19:41 Comments || Top||

#12  FILTHY INFIDEL...........THING!!!
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/09/2004 20:38 Comments || Top||


Kitten Trying Out For Hawaii Triathlon
Via Drudge. Good day for kittys, eh, muck?
Boaters find kitten swimming 3 miles offshore in Gulf of Mexico
When Maggie Rogers spotted something bobbing in the water three miles into the Gulf of Mexico while on a scalloping trip with friends, she assumed it was a turtle, or a piece of sea kelp. But as the boat got closer and slowed down, she found it was a tiny, apricot-colored kitten. Nine inches long and screaming at the top of its lungs, the cat was paddling furiously.
I hope the little one wasn’t dumped out there; I’d stomp on the bastard’s nuts.
Nah, dump them in the cat's place. Shark's gotta eat too.
``We scooped him up and he sat on the boat with me for eight hours,’’ said Rogers, who is the finance director at the Clearwater Marine Aquarium. ``He was exhausted and stressed,’’ Rogers said. ``His heart rate was high.’’ The boaters on the 17-foot Scout Current Drift did not know how the kitten arrived in the Homosassa Bay. There were at least 40 boats in the crowded area where he was found, they said.
Probably dumped; what idiot / a-hole would bring a cat onto a boat otherwise?
On Tuesday, three days after he was found, a veterinarian found the 10-week-old, 1-pound kitten had worms, but was otherwise healthy.
Probably not out there too long or we’d have heard about dehydration.
He was adopted by Rogers’ sister-in-law — and named Nemo.
Cool name!
Posted by: Raj || 07/09/2004 2:21:56 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  good post raj! this in probly best news i am read all day. :)
Posted by: muck4doo || 07/09/2004 14:30 Comments || Top||

#2  most livaboards I know have cats. This may have been a boat cat out for his first ride who went overboard.
Posted by: Anonymous5651 || 07/09/2004 16:59 Comments || Top||


HELLO MULLAH, HELLO FATAH (CAMP OSAMA)
HELLO MULLAH, HELLO FATAH (CAMP OSAMA)
Tune: "Hello Muddah, Hello Fadduh (Camp Granada)"
[which was to the tune, "Dance of the Hours"]


Hello Mullah,
Hello Fatah,
Here I am at
Camp Osama.
Camp is very
Entertaining,
And they say we’ll have some fun in basic training.

I went bombing
With Mohammed.
He blew up like
Halley’s comet.
No use going
To the surgeons,
There were parts of him enough for sixty virgins.

All the Sunnis
Hate the Saudis,
And the innies
Hate the outies,
But there’s one thing
We agree on:
All the beds are awful hard to get to sleep on.

Camp looks nothing
Like the pictures
They showed us at
The recruiter’s.
And the food is
Pretty rotten.
Guess it looks like I’ve been lied to by bin Laden.

Take me home,
Oh Mullah, Fatah!
Take me home,
I hate Osama.
Don’t leave me
Out in Afghanistan
To find my ashes in a can.

Take me home,
I promise I won’t
Pierce my ears
Or look at girls like
Britney Spears.
Oh, please don’t make me stay,
I’ve been here one whole day.

I hear airplanes,
They’re approaching. . . .
All our bases
Are exploding!
There’s no hiding
From a bomber--
Must close quick now ’cause I’m leaving Camp Osama. . . .

Sixty maidens,
And they’re virgin,
But a slightly
Different version:
They all look like
Janet Reno!
Mullah, Fatah, this is hell but how did we know?


Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/09/2004 3:48:24 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Bravo! Bravo!

*politely applauding and tossing a small bouquet of flowers at the stage*
Posted by: Sgt. Mom || 07/09/2004 10:14 Comments || Top||

#2  Ditto! Allan Sherman is spinning with delight!
Posted by: .com || 07/09/2004 12:30 Comments || Top||

#3  soon to be heard on Dr. Demento...
Posted by: Querent || 07/09/2004 12:42 Comments || Top||

#4  LOL! This goes in the Classix
Posted by: Korora || 07/09/2004 15:11 Comments || Top||

#5  "hail to thee, fat person, you kept us out of war!"
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 07/09/2004 15:14 Comments || Top||

#6  We love Allan Sherman!
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/09/2004 21:41 Comments || Top||


Caribbean-Latin America
Venezuela’s Chavez defiant over crunch vote
Venezuela’s President Hugo Chavez says he will stand for the country’s highest office again if he loses a referendum on his rule on 15 August. Mr Chavez said that if his opponents won, he would run in the presidential elections a month later. Electoral authorities ruled last month that Mr Chavez could stand again in 2006, but did not say if he could do so immediately after the recall vote. If Mr Chavez is defeated, an election will be held within 30 days. The winner would serve out the remainder of Mr Chavez’s current six-year term, which began in 2000. Mr Chavez made his comments in the Argentine resort of Puerto Iguazu, where he was attending a summit of the Mercosur trade bloc. "If I lose, I will hand over the presidency," he said. "I have no problems about that, because the following month, I’ll be fighting for the presidency again." Correspondents say Mr Chavez’s remarks are certain to heighten tensions over the referendum, which was called after months of campaigning by the country’s opposition.

Next month, the electorate of more than 12 million people will be asked to respond to the question: "Do you agree to nullify for the current presidential term the popular mandate conferred through democratic and legitimate elections on Mr Hugo Rafael Chavez Frias as president of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela?" Correspondents say Venezuela has been bitterly polarised by more than five years of Mr Chavez. His supporters praise him for improving the lives of the poor with extensive social programmes, while his opponents see him as a demagogue who draws inspiration from Fidel Castro’s Cuba.

At the Mercosur summit, Venezuela was welcomed into the trade bloc as an associate member, while Mexico was accepted in principle. Since it came into being in 1991, the bloc’s founder members - Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay - have been joined by associate members Bolivia, Chile and Peru. Venezuela’s accession came amid signs of a deepening friendship between Mr Chavez and Argentina’s populist President Nestor Kirchner. The two leaders paid a surprise visit to the Rio Santiago shipyard in Buenos Aires province, where Mr Chavez told workers that Latin America had embarked on "a new model of economic integration". Earlier, Mr Chavez and Mr Kirchner signed a deal to form a strategic energy alliance to be known as Petrosur.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/09/2004 12:32:28 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  If Chavez falls, I may need to update my map but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make. ;-)
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 07/09/2004 9:10 Comments || Top||

#2  Am I to understand that you would like to see Chavez fall?
Posted by: Anonymous4724 || 07/09/2004 9:18 Comments || Top||

#3  I like to see all dictators and wannabe-dictators fall.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 07/09/2004 9:22 Comments || Top||

#4  Well, I have to admit I never expected you to feel that way.
I am a Venezuelan and it is good to know that, not all anti-Americans ally themselves with wannabe-dictators of the likes of Chavez.
Posted by: Anonymous4724 || 07/09/2004 9:53 Comments || Top||

#5  I'm not an anti-American. Except in the eyes of idiots.

No offense.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 07/09/2004 10:01 Comments || Top||

#6  We have a saying in Spanish that roughly translated goes like this: one can only be ofended by words, if these words come from what one considers to be an esteemed source.
No ofense.
Bye, now.
Posted by: Anonymous4724 || 07/09/2004 10:12 Comments || Top||

#7  That I keep on surprising you would have suggested to an intelligent person that you've failed to get me and you should therefore reestimate your views on my personality and what I stand for. Quite clearly it didn't suggest that to you.

You, on the other hand, are quite predictable to me.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 07/09/2004 10:22 Comments || Top||

#8  Chavez is a thug, but what is of more interest to me is the realization that Venezuela is smaller than California. We put up with way too much crap from these tinpot dictators and their crackerbox countries.
Posted by: RWV || 07/09/2004 10:56 Comments || Top||

#9  Aris are you aware of Chavez open support for Islamic terrorist groups, and allowing their agents to operate freely on Venezuelan soil?
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/09/2004 22:52 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
Cement shortage hits home in California as China sponges up available supply
The raw material that serves as the foundation of the construction industry is in short supply, consequently pushing up prices. Cement, made of burned lime and clay and mixed with water and sand, is a hot commodity these days partly because of low cement inventories. "We’re scrambling around to our suppliers hoping to get the concrete that we need," said John Young, president of Young Homes, which has 700 houses under construction in the region. "If you can’t get your concrete work done, everything else has to stop."

The reason for the shortage? China is experiencing a surge in its economic growth and has increased demands for cement, as well as steel,lumber and other dry bulk products, which has resulted in a shortfall of ships carrying products to the United States from Asia and Europe. Their demand for cement is seven times that of the United States. And construction projects are underway all over California. "Construction is stronger (in California) than anticipated. We went into spring with lower inventories than (usual) and have not been able to play catch up," said Jim Repman, president and chief executive officer of Glendora-based California Portland Cement. Repman said by October, the demand for cement should wane as the construction season ends. Cement shortages are hitting 23 states in the Southeast, the Southwest and the New York/New England regions. Those states accounted for 48 percent of the total U.S. cement consumption during 2003, according to the Portland Cement Association.

Canada is the largest importer of cement to this country. Local builders and concrete suppliers are hoping for the best, but worry an extended shortage could delay hundreds of projects and cost millions of dollars. "We have to take a certain amount of orders, then we close order-taking," said Mike Gatherer, owner of Irwindale-based B & B Red-I-Mix Concrete. "We are a six-day operation. Sometimes on Saturday we can’t get the supply, so we close." Gatherer said he experienced a rate hike in April and July 1, and expects the next one Sept. 1. "It’s about a 5 percent increase each time," he added. Stella Campos, an office manager with Dominguez Construction in Azusa, said the cement shortage is not only an inconvenience, but worrisome. She said she’s never seen shortages like this in the 24 years she’s been in the construction industry. "We have to order way ahead of time. We can’t just call today like we used to be able to do, because (suppliers) want a week’s notice," Campos said. "It’s a concern that there won’t be any cement, and it will be harder to get. It’s not like we can stockpile it."
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/09/2004 5:28:08 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  same thing nationwide in steel (specialty architectural, rebar, structural ASTM A36). We have to include escalating item pay/costs specs to help contractors cover the increases over 6+ month contracts....
Posted by: Frank G || 07/09/2004 19:59 Comments || Top||


Cold War Defector leaves NK
Posted by: GK || 07/09/2004 18:33 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  OOPs! double post.
Posted by: GK || 07/09/2004 18:51 Comments || Top||


China’s Viagra Heist
Wall Street Journal editorial
When Pfizer invented Viagra it thought it had a right to be richly rewarded for coming up with a product that would improve the lives of millions. And, more or less, that’s the way it’s worked out. But this week China decided to ignore market principles, its own World Trade Organization commitments and the long-term interests of its people by overturning the drug’s patent. Pfizer is appealing the action by the State Intellectual Property Office, whose decision on the erectile-dysfunction drug was made retroactively on the narrow grounds that the New York-based company had not supplied some of the information required to uphold the patent. But the appeal process is expensive. Moreover, the decision in favor of a group of Chinese pharmaceutical companies who had petitioned the SIPO demonstrates a troubling pattern. Although it is under international pressure to respect intellectual property rights, China is acceding to the demands of its own companies for patent-nullification.

Foreign businessmen who had breathed a sigh of relief earlier this year when a senior official, Vice Premier Wu Yi, was put in charge of IPR protection and promised in Washington to crack down on piracy are now wondering who’s in charge. "Improving IPR enforcement is one of China’s WTO commitments, and it’s truly disappointing to see line bureaucrats ignoring a company’s well-established patent," Patrick Powers, head of the U.S.-China Business Council, told us. It is of course pure coincidence that China’s Viagra decision comes one week before pharmaceutical companies are scheduled to duly play their assigned role of villains at a giant AIDS conference in Bangkok. Julian Morris explains how empty are the claims that HIV sufferers die because the people who run giant drug companies have no heart.

In the case of Viagra, there is little room for pulling at heart strings. The high profile nature of the drug, however, invites retaliation from the U.S. and the EU, and foreign diplomats in Beijing are already hinting such action is being considered. The timing couldn’t be worse on other fronts as well. China’s political and economic rise already has it teetering on the verge of becoming a major point of contention in the presidential campaigns in the U.S. While much of the criticism of China comes from mostly Democratic Party protectionists courting the labor union vote, Beijing’s inaction on IPR protection leaves it open to legitimate criticism. This week’s decision does not help.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 07/09/2004 10:57:15 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Refuse ships entry into US ports if they have cargo from China.
Posted by: ed || 07/09/2004 11:10 Comments || Top||

#2  This really is a Big Deal. Regardless of their thinly-veiled justification BS about Aids drugs, caring for their people, yadda3, abrogating the Intellectual Property Rights Treaty is an open challenge to the West - an in your face FOAD challenge - of course they've been filching shit for decades on the back-burner. And if not addressed as a trade war challenge, will spread to others who will coat-tail for profit.

Funny, this seems to indicate that the Chinese leadership thinks we need the trade with them more than they need trade with us. Ummmmm, I don't theeeenk so, Wang-boy.
Posted by: .com || 07/09/2004 11:22 Comments || Top||

#3  the Chinese leadership thinks we need the trade with them more than they need trade with us.

Gee, that sounds familiar.
Posted by: Steve || 07/09/2004 11:39 Comments || Top||

#4  "...they've been filching shit for decades on the back-burner."

Ha, ha, ha, ha! At first glance I parsed that to read as felching shit! I almost popped a hernia.

CiT
Posted by: CiT || 07/09/2004 12:05 Comments || Top||

#5  So is it time to call their bluff?

I think there'd be lotsa heart attacks all over China, from the tip-top of the commie kleptos all the way down to the factory mgrs...
Posted by: .com || 07/09/2004 12:11 Comments || Top||

#6  I thought China was trying to discourage procreation, given its one-child laws.
Posted by: Eric Jablow || 07/09/2004 12:12 Comments || Top||

#7  I think it's sad that they're trying to stiff Pfizer like this. I hope they come down hard on these guys.

Viagra - putting the "fun" back in dysfunction.
Posted by: BH || 07/09/2004 12:43 Comments || Top||

#8  China has a very consistent pattern of ignoring intellectual property rights. There are "Hong Kong Catalogs" which permit one to purchase a counterfeit of any product you might wish to buy. China has undertaken very minor reforms. Refusing a patent is pretty serious stuff.
Posted by: Anonymous5650 || 07/09/2004 13:25 Comments || Top||

#9  Steve (referring to Tom Clancy's novel "The Bear and the Dragon"): Gee, that sounds familiar.

Unfortunately, the stuff you see in Clancy's novel is dated. Very dated (back to the 1970's). Today's China is a capitalistic society, and growing very rapidly. Instead of improving relations with the US, the Russians are arming the Chinese with their latest stuff, and transferring technology as well. In fact, the Russians are selling weapons to practically anyone willing to pay cash (including weapons that find their way back to Chechnya). A huge amount of American high tech production is now done in China, through subcontractors like Sanmina, Flextronics, Jabil, et al. Any military conflict with China will cause serious disruptions in trade. This is probably why US business magazines are always downplaying the China (military) threat - because their advertisers in big business don't want to hear it (political correctness probably accounts for some portion, as well).
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 07/09/2004 13:52 Comments || Top||

#10  I've been screaming this from the rooftops for some time now. China is nobody's friend but their own. They are economic terrorists to militant Islam's violent terrorists.

Zhang Fei's assessment is unfortunately close to the mark. Far too many campaign contributers rely upon China for their cheap consumer electronics to ever abide a trade boycott being sponsored by their minions in Washington DC.

It has been said that Microsoft has operated an office in China for years and has yet to see a penny in profit.

Through reliable online connections, I've heard of Chinese companies attempting to order a single copy of sophisticated and very expensive engineering modelling software, despite having thousands of employees. When offered a much less costly plan to merely lease access the software from a remote server they instead demanded that they be provided with the source code for the software, insisting that they never buy software without the source code.

They applied in the affirmative when asked if they used Microsoft Windows. When also asked if they had the source code (M/S's most carefully guarded secret) to Windows a thundering silence followed.

These people were demanding a single seat license for a company that required hundreds of engineers to work with the simulation software. They did not even blush at requesting the means to directly copy the product. Many districts in China are known as "one copy" regions where government operated enterprises purchase one copy of software and illegally duplicate the rest as needed.

Viagra is just the tip of the ... er, um ... ICEBERG! China needs to be slapped down hard and fast. Their proliferation of nuclear weapons and missile technology to rogue nations like North Korea and Iran will cost the world billions as it stands. China's economic terrorism is gutting other national economies and nobody seems to have the remotest clue as to what is going on.
Posted by: Zenster || 07/09/2004 15:20 Comments || Top||

#11  They are economic terrorists to militant Islam's violent terrorists.

suppose a lefty drew a moral equivalence between some economic injustice and terrorism. NOT to defend China, but I mean really. Terrorism != to everything bad.
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 07/09/2004 15:23 Comments || Top||

#12  suppose a lefty drew a moral equivalence between some economic injustice and terrorism.

You mean, like if they suggested that every decision the conservatives made was driven by racism? I agree, the terrorism label is overused. But come on, the left raises moral equivalence to an art form.
Posted by: BH || 07/09/2004 15:36 Comments || Top||

#13  suppose a lefty drew a moral equivalence between some economic injustice and terrorism. You mean, like if they suggested that every decision the conservatives made was driven by racism? I agree, the terrorism label is overused. But come on, the left raises moral equivalence to an art form

Not disagreeing.
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 07/09/2004 15:39 Comments || Top||

#14  Zenster: Far too many campaign contributers rely upon China for their cheap consumer electronics to ever abide a trade boycott being sponsored by their minions in Washington DC.

It's not just cheap consumer electronics any more. Cisco, 3Com, Nortel, Lucent and Tellabs all do business with outsourcing firms that have large manufacturing operations in China. How much of this expertise is being exported to China, by virtue of manufacturing plants being built there? I would expect a lot.

Zenster: Through reliable online connections, I've heard of Chinese companies attempting to order a single copy of sophisticated and very expensive engineering modelling software, despite having thousands of employees. When offered a much less costly plan to merely lease access the software from a remote server they instead demanded that they be provided with the source code for the software, insisting that they never buy software without the source code.

Some of this is traditional Chinese arrogance (this is what I call 5,000-year syndrome). They really think they are the center of the universe, despite all evidence to the contrary. (As someone who previously worked with revenue numbers for a Fortune 50 technology firm, I can assure you that China remained a nit as of several years ago, as far as major computer purchases went - not even on par with Australia, a country with 1/50th the population). Either that, or they think Americans are stupid. You have to see the arrogance to believe it.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 07/09/2004 16:35 Comments || Top||

#15  I thought they were trying to lower their population? What do they need stiffners for?
Posted by: mojo || 07/09/2004 17:27 Comments || Top||

#16  How much of this expertise is being exported to China, by virtue of manufacturing plants being built there? I would expect a lot.

And by dint of this expertise outsourcing we are effectively financing the proliferation of nuclear technology to Iran and North Korea. Factor in the billions of dollars we will have to spend mopping up those two rogue nations and suddenly the cheap goods from China are no longer so cheap.

It's much the same way with gasoline. It looks pretty cheap at the pump, but after you multiply the price by all of the Mid-East defense dollars and domestic pollution costs, gasoline is some pretty expensive fuel.

One can only hope that China's imminent economic melt-down happens all the more quickly. We need this den of thieves to get a taste of the discord and havoc they sow elsewhere. Once AIDS and civil war piles their sidewalks with corpses, maybe the tune will change. In light of how entrenched Chinese delusions of superiority are, I doubt it.
Posted by: Zenster || 07/09/2004 17:29 Comments || Top||

#17  I thought they were trying to lower their population? What do they need stiffners for?

Difficult as it is to imagine, consider all of the tigers, bears and other endangered species that will begin to flourish once more as their body parts are no longer required due to introduction of effective medications for erectile dysfunction.

As with most industrialized nations, older men have a lot of economic power and likewise suffer from erectile dysfunction the most too. Viagra will be well received by much of the older male population, especially considering the negative side effects of tobacco and alcohol consumption which is rampant in Chinese men.
Posted by: Zenster || 07/09/2004 17:37 Comments || Top||

#18  Zenster: It's much the same way with gasoline. It looks pretty cheap at the pump, but after you multiply the price by all of the Mid-East defense dollars and domestic pollution costs, gasoline is some pretty expensive fuel.

As of today, there is no good alternative to gasoline. And we have to defend ourselves anyway - ballistic missiles and nuclear weapons can't be uninvented.

One can only hope that China's imminent economic melt-down happens all the more quickly.

As of today, I don't see it happening. I don't see China becoming Japan in 50 years, but I don't see China melting down either. The fact is that China is today being run pretty well compared to its peers - Indonesia, Cambodia, Philippines, Vietnam, et al - infrastructure is being added at a relatively rapid clip - roads, telecoms, electricity, et al. Unemployment is high, but basic goods are very cheap - and this without any significant government subsidies, unlike in other countries in its peer group. China's current GDP is only $1T (vs Uncle Sam's $15T) and it already has a significant military profile. In 2020, when China's nominal GDP is $4T (based on 9% annual growth), it will have gained appreciably in relative terms compared to Uncle Sam's projected $27T (based on 4% annual growth). I suspect a lot of China's neighbors are going to get a lot closer to the US between now and then, assuming no one has burned any bridges.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 07/09/2004 17:45 Comments || Top||

#19  Well, at least I hope the cheap Viagra knockoffs save a few rhinos, tigers and bears.
Posted by: 3dc || 07/09/2004 19:24 Comments || Top||

#20  3dc: Well, at least I hope the cheap Viagra knockoffs save a few rhinos, tigers and bears.

My understanding is that the genuine Viagra is way cheaper than the traditional aphrodisiacs. At drugstore.com a single tablet costs $10 a pop. A quick google search revealed that at 1991 prices, the cost per kilogram of rhino horn averaged at $10,000.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 07/09/2004 19:34 Comments || Top||

#21  Eric Jablow: I thought China was trying to discourage procreation, given its one-child laws.

Procreation and sex are two different things. Chinese men have traditionally tended to have multiple wives, back in the days before polygamy was outlawed in the 20th century. These days, they just keep mistresses - at least those who can afford it.

There are significant financial penalties for having more than one child in China - with a fine for each additional child set at 10,000 yuan, or two years' salary for the average blue collar worker. Abortion is available on demand. Condoms and oral contraceptives are readily available at relatively low prices. Vasectomy is an option.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 07/09/2004 19:42 Comments || Top||

#22  Just seems like more international economic hardball to me.

India doesn’t recognize chemical substance patents so their chemical companies developed their own method for making Viagra and now ship it all over the world.

Canada forces US companies to sell drugs in Canada at “fair” prices otherwise Canadian companies are allowed to ignore the patents.

US software patents have gotten so ridiculous that small software companies have no way of knowing whether they are infringing or not. Even the threat of a patent infringement suit can destroy the small company. The big tech companies use large patent portfolios as a barrier to entry. If you want to play in the game you have to have a large patent portfolio to swap.

The extension of copyright coverage for so many years reflects the US legislature pushing US company interests. The US then pressures countries around the world to follow US copyright and patent law.

I don’t think Microsoft cares that China, India, and many other countries steal their software. In the past those countries haven’t been a big potential market. The widespread use of pirated software stops China or India from developing a home-grown threat to the Microsoft operating system. Also it helps keep Linux from getting a foothold in those countries. On the other hand Microsoft is very concerned about and works to prevent China making and selling counterfeit MS software products.

Japan got its start in electronics by ignoring US patents.

Fifteen years ago an executive friend servicing the Carrier Air Conditioning account for South Korea described the games the Koreans used to get access to his company’s intellectual property rights for Korean companies.

As I see it all countries play these games. China will push the limits and the US and other countries will push back.
Posted by: Anonymous5032 || 07/09/2004 20:04 Comments || Top||


Accused Army Deserter Leaves for Reunion
PYONGYANG, North Korea (AP) - An American accused of deserting his Army unit 40 years ago to defect to North Korea left Pyongyang on Friday with his two daughters to be reunited with his Japanese wife in Indonesia. Charles Jenkins, wearing a dark gray suit and sunglasses, boarded the plane sent for him by the Japanese government to meet his wife, Hitomi Soga, in Jakarta later in the day.

North Korean TV footage broadcast in Japan showed Jenkins and his daughters before the flight wearing North Korean flag pins. He smoked a Marlboro cigarette - a luxury item in the impoverished state. The broadcast, however, broke off as the plane was moving slowly down the runway. Japan’s Kyodo News service reported that the plane took off moments later.

Soga was abducted by spies and taken to the North in 1978 and then repatriated to Japan nearly two years ago. She had to return home alone because Jenkins, who allegedly deserted his Army unit in 1965, would face extradition to the United States and a court martial if he were to join her in Japan. Soga spent nearly a quarter-century in North Korea before leader Kim Jong Il agreed in an unprecedented summit with Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi two years ago to allow her and four other kidnap victims to return home. Her plight has captured the hearts of Japan.

Jenkins, 64, and his daughters - Belinda, 18, and Mika, 21, both college students in Pyongyang - were shown live on Japanese television completing the paperwork prior to their flight out of the North. His daughters, wearing white blouses and navy blue skirts, appeared elated to be leaving to see their mother. The reunion was arranged in Jakarta by Japanese and North Korean officials because Indonesia has no extradition treaty with Washington.

Soga arrived on a commercial flight at Jakarta’s international airport on Thursday, and a police escort accompanied her to a hotel. Before boarding her flight in Japan, she said she was happy beyond words.

It was unclear what would happen next for the family. Soga has said she will try to persuade her husband to join her in Japan, but he is reportedly still afraid of facing legal action by the United States and wants to return to North Korea.

Akitaka Saiki, heading a delegation of Japanese officials escorting Jenkins and the daughters, reassured North Korean officials at the airport that the family will be treated well, and would have a "relaxed" family reunion.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/09/2004 1:13:39 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Desertion in 65? Sounds like he wanted to dodge out on Vietnam.

Then again, what punishment other than hanging could we give him that would be worse than having to live in North Korea?
Posted by: OldSpook || 07/09/2004 2:08 Comments || Top||

#2  what punishment other than hanging could we give him that would be worse than having to live in North Korea?

Deport him to France?
Posted by: Steve || 07/09/2004 9:10 Comments || Top||

#3  I'm not sure how hellish this guy's life has been. My guess is that he got fairly preferential treatment there - a source of information, language skills etc. I've heard that he acted in several propaganda films as well.

Hellish or not, it must've been pretty surreal life and I think the guy will get an interesting book or two out of it if he comes back and spills his guts.
Posted by: Prince Abdullah || 07/09/2004 10:53 Comments || Top||

#4  "I Was Kim Jong Il's Caddy" by Charles Jenkins.
Available soon on Amazon.com.
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/09/2004 17:03 Comments || Top||

#5  "the guy will get an interesting book or two out of it if he comes back and spills his guts."

-if he comes back, I have some ex-vet buddies who might just spill his guts....f*cking traitor.
Posted by: Jarhead || 07/09/2004 17:12 Comments || Top||


Europe
Beware the spread of racism, Chirac tells French
President Jacques Chirac called on France yesterday to "wake up" to the growing problem of racism and anti-semitism. In an emotive speech, given at Chambon-sur-Lignon, where villagers hid thousands of Jews during the Second World War, Mr Chirac pledged to lead the fight against the "darkest side of human nature" and called on his countrymen to "remember the still-recent past" of Nazi round-ups and French collaboration. He said: "I invite them to tell their children of the mortal danger posed by fanaticism, exclusion, cowardice and resignation in the face of extremism. I ask them forcefully to show our resolve, our common ability to live in harmony and mutual respect ... Faced with this danger, I call on them to wake up. Discrimination, anti-semitism - all kinds of racism are spreading insidiously. All these acts reflect the darkest side of human nature. They are unworthy of France. I will do everything to stop them."

A series of attacks over recent months prompted Mr Chirac to speak out. In April, 127 tombs at a Jewish cemetery were desecrated. Last November, arsonists burned down part of a Jewish secondary school on the outskirts of Paris. Scarcely a day passes without reports of attacks on Jews somewhere in France. Mr Chirac said racism affected both "our Jewish compatriots, who have been present in our country since time immemorial and our Muslim compatriots, who have made the choice to work and live in our country". Until recently, M Chirac’s rhetoric ran far ahead of his actions. But he recently appointed a super-minister for social cohesion, Jean-Louis Borloo, with a remit ranging from housing to education to race relations. M Borloo was previously the iconoclastic and popular mayor of Valenciennes, in north-eastern France, a city he turned into a laboratory for tackling social problems.
Posted by: Bulldog || 07/09/2004 4:28:47 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Mr Chirac should know since he is a noted anti-semite and racist.
Posted by: FlameBait93268 || 07/09/2004 5:19 Comments || Top||

#2  Coming from a man who once joked about the "smell and noise" coming out of immigrants appartments and annoying "honest" french workers.
Having said that , i don't believe that the man himself is an antisemite. Chirac has cornered himself, and his country,into unreasonnable and unconditional support of practically any arab demand, in the name of grandstanding and the 3rd way politics.And since the french media never dare question this established wisdom, there is no balanced information in france countering or moderating the arab satellite channels allegations;and so the french-arab youth feels justifed in his hatred toward israel and french jews.
And since even the mere idea of self critsism is absent in france, particulary in its media,i dont see any close solution at hand
Posted by: frenchfregoli || 07/09/2004 8:25 Comments || Top||

#3  ...he recently appointed a super-minister for social cohesion

Look! Up in the Sky!!
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/09/2004 10:03 Comments || Top||

#4  yet, he did nothing, said nothing after his Ambassador to England called Israel a "dirty little country."

(in)actions speak louder than words.

Posted by: PlanetDan || 07/09/2004 10:09 Comments || Top||

#5  Actually, it was "shitty little country", Dan.
Posted by: Bulldog || 07/09/2004 12:31 Comments || Top||

#6  "...tell their children of the mortal danger posed by fanaticism, exclusion, cowardice and resignation in the face of extremism. I ask them forcefully to show our resolve, our common ability to live in harmony and mutual respect ...I will do everything to stop them."

Short of DOING anything.
Posted by: jules 187 || 07/09/2004 15:07 Comments || Top||

#7 
Beware the spread of racism, Chirac tells French
Except against the Jooooos, of course.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 07/09/2004 22:20 Comments || Top||


France stands firm on scarf ban (with photo)
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/09/2004 00:33 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Wish we had the balls to do this in the UK.
Posted by: Howard UK || 07/09/2004 4:42 Comments || Top||

#2  i suppose im the only one here who actually HAS read the Talmud :) Its mainly a book (well actually a set of books - it runs to close to 20 volumes in most editions) that concerns such EXCITING topics as to how early its proper to say your morning prayers, what to do if two people both claim to have found a piece of lost property, and how to properly tithe your produce. Along with asides on the interpretation of the bible, on ethics, on science (such as it was) on history, on legends, etc.

Out of those twenty or so thick volumes there are a HANDFUL of quotes that express some degree of venom against gentiles. Usually not nearly that bad in context. Written in some cases by people who suffered under the Roman State. And balanced by numerous references to rights of gentiles under Jewish law, the goodness of those righteous gentiles, etc.

However the handful of venomous quotes are normally cited out of context by jewhaters. There are some web sites with responses, if y'all need them.
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 07/09/2004 14:13 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
A Governor Unindicted, but Implicated . NJ Gov McGreevey in hot seat
Posted by: Frank G || 07/09/2004 21:48 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  We're talking about New Jersey. The temperature of the "hot" seat is about 98.6.
Posted by: Fred || 07/09/2004 21:52 Comments || Top||

#2  I stand corrected. I forgot about the Torricelli/Lautenburg/NJSC "finding of new meaning in the constitution"
Posted by: Frank G || 07/09/2004 22:04 Comments || Top||

#3  I saw the headline and read NJ GOV MCGREEDY...
Posted by: FlameBait93268 || 07/10/2004 2:18 Comments || Top||


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allhere.com is an internet host in Landgraaf, Netherlands. Schuyler Colfax was U.S. Grant's vice president, so I doubt if he's the real author of the message. I know for a fact he doesn't have an email account, being dead and all, though the message originator does seem to have been charterinternet.com, of Madison, WI.

The Dems really make me tired.
Posted by: Fred || 07/09/2004 8:53:57 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It would be funny if it weren't so pathetic, Fred.

Wish I had the backhoe concession for the Democratic party - every time they hit a new bottom (usually daily), they dig.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 07/09/2004 21:47 Comments || Top||

#2  every time they hit a new bottom (usually daily), they dig.

and find a couple registered voters...what luck!
Posted by: Frank G || 07/09/2004 22:01 Comments || Top||

#3  Grumble growl ... ARGH! >_<
Posted by: Edward Yee || 07/09/2004 22:33 Comments || Top||

#4  I'm of Chinese descent >_>
Posted by: Edward Yee || 07/09/2004 22:33 Comments || Top||

#5  go get em
Posted by: Frank G || 07/09/2004 22:36 Comments || Top||

#6  Lessee now...

White? check.
Male? check.
Blue-eyed? check.
Blonde? D'OH!!!

Guess I'm screwed.
Posted by: BH || 07/09/2004 23:18 Comments || Top||

#7  White OK
Blue Eyes OK
German OK
Then I found out my great great grandmother was Jewish. How in the heck did I get raised a Methodist! LOL
Guess ( and gladly ) I am SOL
Posted by: FlameBait93268 || 07/10/2004 1:32 Comments || Top||


Moore Muskrat Dem Love - Moore / Daschle HugGate
Via Drudge.
Daschle denies hugging Moore
His ribs would’ve been crushed...
There was no hug between "Fahrenheit 9/11" director Michael Moore and Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle at the film’s June 23 premiere in Washington, D.C., Daschle said Thursday.
Who to believe, a serial liar or a politician?
When asked about Moore’s account of a hug after the premiere and the criticism Daschle has received for it, the South Dakota Democrat said he and Moore did not embrace. Daschle said his schedule forced him to arrive late and leave early.
"I wasn’t there! There was an earthquake! A dog ate my homework! IT WASN’T MY FAULLLLLT!!"
"I know we senators all tend to look alike. But I arrived late, and I had to leave early for Senate votes. I didn’t meet Mr. Moore," Daschle said.
Daschle combs his hair with a rock; you could spot him 200 feet away.
In a lengthy Time magazine piece about the movie and its political effects, Richard Corliss reported Moore’s criticism of Daschle’s leadership and the filmmaker’s account of a hug with Daschle.
We need third party confirmation, methinks.
"At the Washington premiere, Moore sat on a few rows behind Daschle. Afterward, says Moore, ‘He gave me a hug and said he felt bad and that we were all gonna fight from now on. I thanked him for being a good sport,’" Corliss wrote. Daschle, who was at the premiere at the invitation of producer/distributor Harvey Weinstein, said he and Moore have never met.
Looks like another example of Daschle telling people in his home state one thing (acting like a conservative, etc). and everyone else another (blocking judges, etc) and hoping the mouth breathin’, knuckle-dragging rubes of his home state don’t pick up on it. We’ll find out for sure Nov. 2.
Posted by: Raj || 07/09/2004 2:15:23 PM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  MOORE LIED! DASCHLE CRIED!

Mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging South Dakota rubes rise in a torch-carrying mob and head for Michigan in search of the Adipose-challenged director! 50,000 Oglala Lakota help them pack bags, say "don't let the door hit ya in the caboose, white-eyes!"

In other news:
Severe hyphen shortage hits Rantburg.

Film at 11:00
Posted by: mojo || 07/09/2004 17:36 Comments || Top||


Where Kerry went instead of attending the homeland security briefing
NY Post; EFL.
July 9, 2004 -- Whoopi Goldberg delivered an X-rated rant full of sexual innuendoes against President Bush last night at a Radio City gala that raised $7.5 million for the newly minted Democratic ticket of John Kerry and John Edwards.
Classy people, these Kerry supporters. Classy people!
Waving a bottle of Ripple MD 20/20 Boone’s Farm wine, she fired off a stream of vulgar sexual wordplays on Bush’s name in a riff about female genitalia, and boasted that she’d refused to let Team Kerry clear her material.
Boy, when Theresa hears that John was trying to "clear" Whoopi’s "material," is she ever gonna be honked off!
Kerry could be seen laughing uproariously during part of Goldberg’s tirade - and neither he nor Edwards voiced a single objection to its tone when they spoke to the crowd. . . . Edwards said it was "a great honor" to be there and insisted, "This campaign will be a celebration of real American values."
And for this they missed a briefing on terror threats?

The Kerry/Edwards campaign must have discovered a practical method of time travel, ’cause it’s eternally September 10, 2001 in their world.
Posted by: Mike || 07/09/2004 2:11:25 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Kerry Passes Up Terror Briefing: ’I Just Haven’t Had Time’
Drudge
Just hours before attending an all-star celebrity fundraising concert in New York, Dem presidential candidate John Kerry revealed how has been too busy for a real-time national security briefing. "I just haven’t had time," Kerry explained in an interview. Kerry made the startling comments on CNN’s LARRY KING LIVE Thursday night.
KING: News of the day, Tom Ridge warned today about al Qaeda plans of a large-scale attack on the United States. Didn’t increase the -- you see any politics in this? What’s your reaction?

KERRY: Well, I haven’t been briefed yet, Larry. They have offered to brief me. I just haven’t had time.
Developing...

This POS can’t break himself away from media interviews and fundraising to get the real scoop on terror warnings and intelligence. What, the facts might get in the way of bashing Bush? Between vacations with Teraaaaaayza and licking John Edwards face in fundraising trips, he’s too busy? Ass
Posted by: Frank G || 07/09/2004 9:44:29 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Oh, pshaw! The terrorist threat's exaggerated, and it's a law enforcement issue anyway. Right, Al?"
Posted by: Mike || 07/09/2004 10:19 Comments || Top||

#2  Now, now, now. Didn't you peasants read the story? I was attending an all-star celebrity fundraising concert. If I'd have passed that up, then the terrorists have won!
Oh, well. Off to Nantucket for the weekend. Ta-Ta!
Posted by: John Fn Kerry || 07/09/2004 10:32 Comments || Top||

#3  That's OK, Johnny - we, the American public, won't have time for you in November.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 07/09/2004 18:37 Comments || Top||

#4  John-Pierre can't seem to break himself away from Whoopi's bush...
Posted by: Fred || 07/09/2004 20:11 Comments || Top||

#5  They should get together with these two.
Posted by: .com || 07/09/2004 20:34 Comments || Top||

#6  Umm, dotted one, aren't lesbians BY DEFINITION, for bush?
Posted by: Doc8404 || 07/09/2004 21:49 Comments || Top||

#7  That's why she's very confused, methinks, heh...
Posted by: .com || 07/09/2004 22:06 Comments || Top||


A Mini-Watergate? - against the Dems!
Do not go gentle into that good night...
Democrats could be participating in a "mini-Watergate" effort to get Ralph Nader out of the presidential picture, the consumer advocate charged Thursday. "They’re hiring lawyers to go up to technicalities in places like Arizona, they infiltrated our political convention," Nader, an independent candidate for president, told FOX News on Thursday. "I spoke to John Kerry and said ’you’d better look into it because it could be a mini-Watergate, possibly."
Looks like Ralph is getting pissed enough to where he will not "just go away" like the Dems want him to do... Nice thing is it shows the REAL way the "Democrat" Party has come to operate much liek the COmmunist Party of the SOviet Union - underhanded and powermad. Think we will see this outside of Foxnews? Nah, doubt it.
Posted by: OldSpook || 07/09/2004 3:17:44 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Oops - meant to put this on page 2. Leave it here if you like or move it if appropriate.

Funny to see "Watergate" being bandied about against Democrat electoral chicanery. Then again, thats what you get when you have lawyers running the political party.
Posted by: OldSpook || 07/09/2004 3:32 Comments || Top||

#2  Hell since California will go for Kerry/Edwards I am voting for old Ralph instead of the LP like I usually do. Thats a vote against Kerry a vote for Bush would be wasted here.
Posted by: FlameBait93268 || 07/09/2004 5:10 Comments || Top||

#3  "Nice thing is it shows the REAL way the "Democrat" Party has come to operate much liek the COmmunist Party of the SOviet Union..."

Hmmmm. I thought the "Democrat" Party HAD become the Communist Party of the United Socialist States of Amerika. Pitchforks and long knives, the time is coming.

CiT
Posted by: CiT || 07/09/2004 8:32 Comments || Top||

#4  FLAME A VOTE FOR BUSH WOULD NOT BE WASTED HERE! Wait things are swinging the other way in the golden state. If watergate happened today it would be a 72-hour story and not lead to impeachment.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 07/09/2004 8:41 Comments || Top||

#5  I think that Schwarzenegger puts California in play for the first time in a good many years. Bush may not win here, but Kerry will have to work hard to prevent it.
Posted by: RWV || 07/09/2004 10:38 Comments || Top||

#6  But then, I live in San Diego and we're a little more conservative than upstate.
Posted by: RWV || 07/09/2004 10:39 Comments || Top||

#7  RWV, me too, and we're a LOT more conservative than the bay area
Posted by: Frank G || 07/09/2004 10:44 Comments || Top||

#8  He's been on a lot of radio shows lately. He's flogging his book...when his book tour is over I expect he'll fold his tents just in time for the election.
Posted by: Seafarious || 07/09/2004 16:17 Comments || Top||

#9  I live in Marin. Totally freakin nuts up here. The inmates run the asylum and most of them still have a boner (metaphorical...they are just old tired lefties) from their Vietnam anti-war protest days. Just can't get over it.
Posted by: remote man || 07/09/2004 16:25 Comments || Top||

#10  I was watching the news tonight and it featured what looked like a debate between 2 of my favorites, Howard Dean and Nader. My only thought was that I hoped the organizers passed out free ice picks at the door so people could stick themselves in the eyes for relief.
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/09/2004 20:56 Comments || Top||

#11  I can see pumping units (oil wells) from my front porch as I look out across the southern San Joaquin Valley and live in a conservative county (Kern) I can't see Kerry/Edwards losing the population centers. There will be a LLL full court press and they are very good at hiding their true agenda and actual politics. The sheeple will go the wrong way.
Posted by: FlameBait93268 || 07/09/2004 21:09 Comments || Top||

#12  Bakersfield FB?
Posted by: Frank G || 07/09/2004 21:15 Comments || Top||


Would the Real John Edwards Please Stand Up? (detailed votes)
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/09/2004 00:43 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Barbara Boxer's 'accident'
Can't resist this morsel from Hugh Hewitt.
Today, on the floor of the United States Senate, Barbara Boxer referred to the Madrid bombings as a "rail accident." Honest. A rail accident. Boxer is a Senate accident. What an embarassment. I posed the question to my audience: How much money could Boxer lose in a Jeopardy game, assuming that, in her typical fashion, she obnoxiously buzzed in first every time and, also in typical fashion, she got everything wrong. The best calculation seems to be $58,000. Let me know if that's a correct analysis.
Posted by: Steve White || 07/09/2004 12:00:00 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Alex - "what is an idiot"?
Posted by: Frank G || 07/09/2004 0:11 Comments || Top||

#2  "I'll take anal bum cover, you bastard Trebek."
Posted by: Sean Connery || 07/09/2004 0:16 Comments || Top||

#3  That sort of sophistry is worse than worthless.
Posted by: Zenster || 07/09/2004 0:44 Comments || Top||

#4  Too funny, Sean!
Tee hee hee!
Posted by: Jen || 07/09/2004 0:50 Comments || Top||

#5  I fear I will never be rid of this harpy and her face lifts in my life time. I nominate her for the Maxine Waters intelect trophy for 2004.
Posted by: FlameBait93268 || 07/09/2004 1:10 Comments || Top||

#6  I dunno, FB, Maxine retired that trophy I think -- Lifetime Achievement Richard Cranium Award for her comments in the 2000 election. Baba Bauxer is just a mediocre, tendacious lightweight. She'd never pass the sniff test at Berkeley, but they'll vote for her anyways.
Posted by: Steve White || 07/09/2004 1:21 Comments || Top||

#7  Maxine was also the one who forced the Cal Guard to remove all of its ammunition from the LA metro area about 6-8 months before the start of the Rodney King riots. Here was her logic (follow me closely here):

* The ammo could only be used in the event of a civil disturbance.
* Whitey thinks that only African-Americans can start a riot.
* Therefore, having ammo at the Los Alamitos Reserve Center is a racist and provocative act.

This was all reported in the LA Times before the riots and before the Internet, so you're just going to trust my memory. Of course no one at the Times ever brought it up after the riots. This, my friends is the real reason it took the Guard 24 hours to hit the streets. The ammo would have had to be transported down the freeways _through_ the riot zone from Camp Roberts. The units were assembled in the armories by midnight the first night and could have been deployed at dawn.

So I'm with Steve. Maxine has a lifetime lock on that trophy. Her actions are the proximate cause of thousands of businesses being destroyed and billions of dollars being lost. For all the fuck ups in my life, I don't know how someone like that gets up in the morning and looks herself in the mirror.
Posted by: 11A5S || 07/09/2004 1:44 Comments || Top||

#8  She HAS mirrors?
They both are typical of the "democrat" mentality of this state. Kerry/Edwards will win here so I am voting for Nader :p Nothign I could do will stop The Kerry Klownz/Democrats from taking California.
Posted by: FlameBait93268 || 07/09/2004 1:52 Comments || Top||

#9  Hey, you think Babs is bad, you should get a load of some of the REAL loonies Marin county breeds.

Seriously. It's scary....
Posted by: mojo || 07/09/2004 11:56 Comments || Top||

#10  I don't know how someone like that gets up in the morning and looks herself in the mirror.

Constituents?
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/09/2004 12:09 Comments || Top||

#11  This title had me thinkin' she filled her diaper on the senate floor. I agree with 11A5S...Maxine is Queen @$$hat.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 07/09/2004 13:52 Comments || Top||

#12  I don't know how someone like that gets up in the morning and looks herself in the mirror.


You mean without breaking them, witch-style, with that coyote ugly mug of hers?
Posted by: Raj || 07/09/2004 13:53 Comments || Top||

#13  Mojo, I live in Marin as well and it is chock full of communist nut cases. I have a couple of Protest Warrior stickers and a Bush/Cheney sticker on my car just to drive them nuts.
Posted by: remote man || 07/09/2004 14:12 Comments || Top||

#14  Remote Man, I am a state worker in Sacramento and I drive LL CRAZY. Every time they spout off about Bush lying or lacking IQ power I ask them to prove it. They stammer and fumble but rarely give an example to support their claim. Babs can and should be defeated in November and I also think California is very much in play. Why you ask? Because of the OUTLANDISH claims and statements made by our elected officials (Babs being just one example). But hang on brother there are more of us VRWC types around and our numbers are growing.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) || 07/09/2004 14:20 Comments || Top||

#15  You are absolutely right CS. There are way more "right thinkers" than the LLL suspects. I would love to see Boxer beaten like a red haired step child in November. The folks in Mill Valley would all have to wear Depends.
Posted by: remote man || 07/09/2004 14:25 Comments || Top||

#16  babara boxer has no mirrors....What's the point of having mirrors when she casts no reflection. She does however, suffer from cranial rectosis. Cranial rectosis is a serious condition that is a direct result of having your head stuck up your ass....and, if not promptly treated leads to a shitty outlook.
Posted by: Halfass Pete || 07/09/2004 14:28 Comments || Top||

#17  remote man: Protest Warrior stickers - outstanding. I'm waiting for my "Hey France, shut the hell up!" t-shirt I ordered over the weekend from the PW folk. Marin...home of Johnny Taliban. You are definitely on the front lines!
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 07/09/2004 14:37 Comments || Top||

#18  Not a Freudian slip-a predictable slip. She is mulling over the Dems favorite martyr principle-that the West somehow had this coming; therefore, we must keep the speech non-judgmental and politically correct. She just happened to forget she wasn't talking to apologists that day.
Posted by: jules 187 || 07/09/2004 16:31 Comments || Top||

#19  I've had Bush/Cheney sticker on since the last election! My Dad thinks that someone will vandalize my 88 Hyundai (like I would notice) because of the sticker. Not a scratch in three years! I think the liberal storm has blown itself out here in California and maybe we are in for a couple of decades of conservative weather. I would like nothing more that seeing the weepy eyes of Babs Boxer as she is tossed from office. Maybe if God is really in a good mood will get to see sad Thom from SD get booted as well!
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) || 07/09/2004 18:16 Comments || Top||

#20  Could you guys be real sports and get rid of Feinstein, too?
And Maxi-Pads Waters? And Nostrilitis Waxman?
Posted by: Jen || 07/09/2004 18:17 Comments || Top||

#21  heh heh that Waxman's a beauty, isn't he? Maxine's looks like she's been sucking on lemons, but I think it's cranial constipation. We have a stable of assholes here, all in safe districts
Posted by: Frank G || 07/09/2004 19:20 Comments || Top||

#22  You think the total control of all important state offices and depts by LL Democrats will let any federal Rep or Sen lose? Why do you think they want computer voting terminals so bad? So they can keep cheating thats why. They totally dominate all media in the state. California is safe in the dems hands no matter how hard they have to cheat.

Take a look at the map from the recall election. This is the recall Davis
map. This is the elect Arnold map. If you live hee you know where the population centers are. As I recall right after teh election LA county was red on both maps.
I am not holding my breath for a conservative win here. As soon as my Wife can retire in 10 years I am leaving and I was born here.

I am voting for Nader just to screw with them and am telling them I am. At least Nader is an honest LLL and will tell you what he is going to do.

Oh yea ferret face Waxman with his rodent look, a reall class A rectal opening.
Posted by: FlameBait93268 || 07/09/2004 20:49 Comments || Top||

#23  voting for Nader does nothing good - remember the Dem howling re: popular vote vs electoral college? For every CA Rep vote you neutralize a Kerry vote - isn't that worth it?
Posted by: Frank G || 07/09/2004 21:01 Comments || Top||

#24  Well I do still have time to change my mind and I may. November is a long way off. Saying I am voting for Nader does cause the LLL to go apoplectic.

I recalled what I though the first time I saw Rep H. Waxman ranting and foaming at the mouth (about his favorite gun banning activities) on CSPAN "You clueless pompus little weasle nosed limp d***."
Posted by: FlameBait93268 || 07/10/2004 0:48 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
VD Hanson does it again... Civilization vs. Trivia
ELF
Sometimes life’s choices are simple.

Last week, the carnivore Saddam Hussein faced the world in the docket. There was none of the usual Middle East barbarity. The mass murderer was not hooded and then beheaded on tape, in the manner of al Qaeda. Civilization has come to Iraq.

Nor was the destroyer of Iraqi dissidents hitched — Saudi-style — to a Humvee and dragged to pieces through the streets of Baghdad. The pillager of Kuwait did not lose a limb on the precepts of a sharia-inspired fatwa. A young Saddam-like Baathist assassin did not break in and shoot the desecrator of the Mesopotamian marshlands in the back of the head. And a West Bank-like mob did not lynch the torturer of dissidents in the public square. Even al Jazeera, an enthusiast of the usual barbarity, was wondering what the heck was going on in its own neck of the medieval woods.
snip
Like this part!

In response to the historic events of the week, one columnist for the New York Times decried George Bush’s pronunciation of "Eye-rack." Another pundit trumped that profundity by whining that Bush had written "Let Freedom Reign," rather than "Ring" — a verb that, had Mr. Bush employed it, she would most likely have denounced as a hackneyed cliché.

At a time when tens of thousands are risking their lives to end the barbarism that has spawned a quarter century of worldwide terror, the New York Times wishes us to know that its columnists can properly pronounce Iraq and really do remember that freedom "rings" more often than "reigns."
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So for myself, I prefer to be on the side of people like the Kurds, Elie Wiesel, Hamid Karzai, and Iyad Allawi rather than the idiotocrats like Jacques Chirac, Ralph (the Israelis are "puppeteers") Nader, Michael Moore, and Billy Crystal.

Sometimes life’s choices really are that simple.
Posted by: Sherry || 07/09/2004 9:48:16 AM || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  One for the quotes db:
Michael Moore is a poor substitute for the upfront buffoonery of Abbie Hoffman.
-- Victor Davis Hanson

Damn straight. Now Abbie, he KNEW how to be a buffoon! Moore's just pitiful.
Posted by: mojo || 07/09/2004 11:53 Comments || Top||

#2  LOL, mojo!

I remember Abbie "Steal This Book" Hoffman. Compared to Moore, Abbie in retrospect looks positively normal.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 07/09/2004 22:18 Comments || Top||

#3  "Steal This Book"

He certainly wasn't in it for the money, heh.
Posted by: .com || 07/09/2004 22:26 Comments || Top||


International-UN-NGOs
gratitude
When the world’s top experts on HIV/AIDS gather to swap strategies and experiences in Bangkok, Thailand this weekend, only a tiny handful of the estimated 15,000 attendees will be representing the United States. Two years ago, Washington sent 236 employees from Health and Human Services (HHS) and other federal agencies to the International AIDS Conference, considered the leading scientific gathering on HIV research and treatment. But this time around, the U.S. delegation has dwindled to 50, and its funding for the meeting slashed from 3.6 million dollars to about 500,000 dollars... Conference organisers say they are saddened at the decision, which many critics believe stems from long-running ideological clashes between the conservative administration of President George W Bush and international health bodies over issues like condom use, abortion and homosexuality...

It’s (also) a slap in the face for those living with HIV/AIDS and their advocates, and it suggests that the U.S. has once again withdrawn from a collegial relationship with the international community... Leaked correspondence from within HHS suggests that its snubbing of the Bangkok assembly is at least partly in retribution for criticism of the Bush administration’s policies at the last conference in Spain, where AIDS activists booed Thompson so loudly his speech was essentially inaudible...
Lemme get this straight: Thompson was booed so loudly his speech was essentially inaudible, they carp about our policies, but we're supposed to politely show up and spread money around?
Posted by: Anonymoose || 07/09/2004 4:47:59 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I'm with Anonymoose - They can fuck that. Actions have consequences.

How would they like it if somebody booed and screeched at them and then demanded their money? Would they fork it over? Then why should we?
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 07/09/2004 20:52 Comments || Top||

#2  Yes, Anonymoose, you're getting the picture: it doesn't matter how helpful, generous, brave, constructive, protective, or caring you are, America is bad. And, oddly enough, it doesn't matter how rude, ungrateful, narrow-minded, cowardly, corrupt, or mendacious Europeans are, they're good. Ask John Kerry - he could explain it all to you.
Posted by: Patrick Brown || 07/09/2004 20:53 Comments || Top||

#3  By Jove, you've got it!

The key word is "activist", of course. Much like the March of Dimes, when the diease / cause du jour is solved / cured / whatever, they don't go back to being normal people with lives - they just find a new "gig" to give their lives some semblance of meaning. There is none when you don't believe in your cause, but it doesn't seem to bother the professional activist. Perhaps NASA should study these people - they seem right at home in a vacuum.

I remember reading about the hysterical scramble at the MoD org, all those admin jobs, 3 martini lunches, hob-nobbing soirees were at stake!

That's when it hit me, and I've never given another dollar to any org that skimmed more than 10% for admin - and that leaves damned few.
Posted by: .com || 07/09/2004 20:58 Comments || Top||

#4  F*ck the aids epidemic and that ^ssmunch Bono (not sure why I threw him in, I just can't stand his pretentious *ss). I feel bad for the kids born w/it but don't feel much pity for grown men who knowingly bang prostitutes, use intraveneous drugs, or butt-slam each other or the odd chimpanzee without any protection.

Even if we promoted condoms and the money for it (I'm all for condoms btw) not too many Africans would use them because it's looked down upon culturally as emasculating. Second, I'm not sure how promoting or not promoting abortion stops hiv - seems to me that's putting the cart before the horse. I'd just cut that aid for aids (no pun intended) cold. I'd rather see it spent on our own deficit or for more artillery rounds, or whatever.
Posted by: Jarhead || 07/09/2004 21:12 Comments || Top||

#5  hey, dammit, if the chimp's consenting....oh, wait...not my issue
Posted by: Frank G || 07/09/2004 21:17 Comments || Top||

#6  butt-slam each other or the odd chimpanzee...Jarhead, priceless!
Posted by: Dragon Fly || 07/09/2004 21:23 Comments || Top||

#7  I tried to explain to my wife why I no longer support any of this nicey-nicey BS anymore. After three years of being told I'm a sheeple Nazi brownshirt, only to be asked to do more - always more - f*ck that.

You don't spit in someones face while asking for a handout. Period.
Posted by: BH || 07/09/2004 23:27 Comments || Top||


Crude Oil Jumps to $40.33 a barrel on Terrorist Election Warning
Crude oil prices in New York surged above $40 US a barrel Thursday for the first time in more than a month after the Department of Homeland Security signalled terrorists were scheming to disrupt the U.S. elections this fall. The rally reinforced the market’s pattern of buying whenever terrorism worries surface, despite government data showing across-the-board builds in petroleum inventories last week. "Credible reporting now indicates that al-Qaida is moving forward with its plans to carry out a large-scale attack in the United States in an effort to disrupt our democratic process," Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge said Thursday at a press conference.

August crude futures jumped $1.25, or three per cent, to settle at $40.33 per barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange. The rally was fed by a technical rise earlier as prices neared the $40 benchmark, as well as a slimmer-than-expected rise in U.S. commercial oil inventories and the highest gasoline demand in four weeks. Crude and products prices initially fell on a larger-than-anticipated rise in distillate stocks and an unexpected increase in gasoline stocks last week, as reported by the federal Energy Information Administration, but rose again shortly after. Crude inventories rose only slightly on an uptick in refinery utilization, despite imports holding above 10 million barrels a day for the seventh-straight week, staging a record. The weekly data were delayed one day in observance of last week’s Independence Day holiday, which left markets closed Monday. On the Nymex, August heating oil rose 2.30 cents to $1.1021 per gallon; August gasoline rose 5.43 cents to $1.3278 per gallon, the highest closing price in more than a month. August natural gas fell 18.5 cents to $6.185 per 1,000 cubic feet. In London, August Brent futures closed at $37.77 a barrel, up $1.16, on the International Petroleum Exchange. The online source for news sports entertainment finance and business news in Canada
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/09/2004 10:14:29 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Nobel laureate speaks out in defence of Islam

Shirin Ebadi tells religious conference that Islam accepts human rights, saying its misinterpretation has led to violence

BARCELONA - Nobel Peace Prize laureate Shirin Ebadi has spoken out against violence and terror at the opening of a world religious conference and defended Islam, saying it was misinterpretation of the faith that has led to violence.
Good catch, now let’s hear about some way of changing things.
’It’s the misinterpretation of Islam, not Islam itself, that has led to the religious violence and terrible treatment of women that we see in many Islamic countries.’
- Iranian Nobel laureate Shirin Ebadi

Ms Ebadi, an Iranian lawyer, is one of more than 7,000 people from various religious backgrounds who have convened in Barcelona this week for the Parliament of the World’s Religions, a gathering that aims to discuss the role of religion in world affairs.
Barcelona, what a coincidence.
’Terror, violence, torture and humiliation of people in any society is something totally unacceptable,’ she said during the parliament’s inaugural ceremony on Wednesday.
Fine, what’s your plan for ending it?
’As a Muslim woman, I declare that Islam is a religion that accepts human rights and has nothing against democracy. It’s the misinterpretation of Islam, not Islam itself, that has led to the religious violence and terrible treatment of women that we see in many Islamic countries,’ she added in an interview later.

’My hope is that people realise that they’re not the only ones that have the truth; others can also be right. Religious violence takes place only when someone thinks that they are right and all others are wrong. Once we start solving religious-based differences, we start understanding that religions have much in common.’
And this explains the death fatwa on apostasy exactly how?
Ms Ebadi, a lawyer, writer and professor who has been recognised internationally for her support of women’s, children’s and refugees’ rights, had harsh words for Western leaders too.

’No country has the right to attack another country under the excuse of human rights. You can’t send human rights alongside bombs; human rights can only be achieved through democracy,’ she said, alluding to last year’s US-led invasion of Iraq.
Note the complete absence of any plan by her for establishing democracy in Iraq. Merely disapproval for America having done so themselves. Especially telling is this little backhand: "No country has the right to attack another country under the excuse of human rights." How many million Iraqis are not around to protest this farcical statement because they are rotting in mass graves?
Her belief that ’human rights are a common point between all the religions of the world’ is one of the themes running through the parliament. ’It’s our goal to show that the religions of the world, though different from one another, are not antagonistic toward one another,’ said Mr William Lesher, the chairman of the parliament’s council. ’We need to be humble about our past errors and forgiving of the errors of others.’
Humble doesn’t seem to enter the equation very often in Ms. Ebadi’s neck of the woods. In fact, that seems to be a lot of the problem. Groups of Islamic fanatics with eggshell egos have acquired automatic weapons under the delusion that it makes them an army.

In many ways the Arab street is similar to an American black ghetto. Without a constant rage of humiliated seething, life loses its meaning. Interchange whiteman or Jew as needed. Bill Cosby did all of America (black and white alike) a big favor when he delineated exactly why modern black youth are rushing headlong into a social dead end.

It is this same sort of admonitory voice that is desperately needed in the Arab world. Few examples spring to mind of more moderate Muslims who are willing to take extremists to task. While that is easily attributable to sensationalist media, the hugely imbalanced quotient of violent Arab and Islamic males still commands attention.

Ms Ebadi is a founder of Iran’s Society of Defenders of Human Rights and has spent time in prison for her activities. She was awarded the 2003 Nobel Peace Prize. The parliament is organised around a series of workshops and discussion sessions where representatives from world religions talk about issues like refugees, Aids and peaceful solutions to international conflicts. Participants include Christian theologian Hans Kung and Muslim leader Tariq Ramadan. -- AP
It’s amazing how this woman is able to reconcile the following: ’No country has the right to attack another country under the excuse of human rights.’ and: ’human rights are a common point between all the religions of the world’

Words almost fail me to see see this sort of surrealistic drivel hawked off as a bold statement when it remains uncontaminated by the remotest hint of solutions, plans or proposals to address the problem.
Posted by: Zenster || 07/09/2004 12:30:35 AM || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  All I can say to this moonbeam idiot is: It ain't the misinterpretation of islam that's killing people all over the world. It's motherfuckers that practice islam, as a whole, that are killing people. This bitch isn't standing up to the radicals....she'd rather piss and moan about, "invading another country" and "humiliating" people. If they'd take care of their business, we wouldn't have to.

islam DOES call for the killing of everyone who's not a muslim. We are in a world war.....the world just hasn't understood that yet. As soon as the bombs start blowing up in paris, bonn, etc..... Maybe then they will begin to catch on. These filthy muslims must be killed....every goddamn one of 'em.

Do we have the will to survive? For, to survive means we MUST destroy those filthy muslim pigs.
Posted by: Halfass Pete || 07/09/2004 0:51 Comments || Top||

#2  HP, it's the Islamists who seek religious genocide. That's something more like the Nazis than what America stands for. I comprehend your hatred and understand the sense of urgency you feel. Killing on a mass scale is in no way merited by a long shot. Iran proliferating nuclear weapons is one of the only potential short-term triggers for the very beginnings of such a scenario, and we're not quite there yet.

And yes, you are completely right. Europe is going to take some major body blows before coming to it's senses. This is World War and everyone is rearranging deck chairs.
Posted by: Zenster || 07/09/2004 1:21 Comments || Top||

#3  What a crock of shit. How come when they come to the West they're all, "Pleease, let us do what we want, and join us in the multicultural paradise of Benetton". But go to their countries and suddenly it's, "Yeah, mothafucka, we do have a monopoly on truth. Accept it or die.

I say, f*ck that. Let them have reciprocal treatment. Iranians have no rights in this country. Saudis have no rights in this country. Egyptians have no rights in this country. You want a moskkk? Let me see a church or synagogue in Riyadh. This cannot be a one-way street.
Posted by: BH || 07/09/2004 1:34 Comments || Top||

#4  I think I will send her a bag of pork rinds in appreciation of her intelect. Infact I think we should send her a whole live Pig!
Posted by: FlameBait93268 || 07/09/2004 1:48 Comments || Top||

#5  Great comments, Zenster. Does the distinguished laureate know we attacked Iraq out of common sense self-defense considerations, perceiving an unmanageable and intolerable threat there? The tremendous human rights gains that will result are incidental -- though not incidental to American values or instincts. And we have every right to act aggressively in self-defense, thank you very much.

Scharansky and Sakharov were courageous dissidents, strangers to pseudo-pacifist moral narcissism and the general sort of b.s. she's spouting. I'm sure she's got some guts and is vastly better than the islamofascist mullahs, but she's not even on the waiting list of clear-eyed visionary dissidents, sorry.
Posted by: Verlaine || 07/09/2004 1:52 Comments || Top||

#6  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Antiwar TROLL || 07/09/2004 6:32 Comments || Top||

#7  Don't be so rough on Shirin Ebadi, she's one of the people working on the inside in Iran to bring down the turbans. (See here and here.)

I'm not a Moslem, but I have no problem if a modified, Protestant-Reformation version of Islam, one which rejects burkhas and suicide bombings, arises in opposition to Wahabbi fascism. Verlaine's right: Ebadi's off base when she criticizes us for acting in self defense. On the other hand, if we're going to get a nonlethal version of Islam to become the dominant model, it's going to be people like Ebadi who bring it about.
Posted by: Mike || 07/09/2004 8:53 Comments || Top||

#8  "It’s the misinterpretation of Islam, not Islam itself, that has led to the religious violence and terrible treatment of women that we see in many Islamic countries"

oh. that clears things up. now I feel better. It's all simply a misunderstanding.
Posted by: PlanetDan || 07/09/2004 10:14 Comments || Top||

#9  yep, Nick Berg just misunderstood Islam
Posted by: Frank G || 07/09/2004 10:31 Comments || Top||

#10  And Nick Berg's killers just misunderstood Islam.

Allanu akbar.
Posted by: Seafarious || 07/09/2004 10:39 Comments || Top||

#11  Mike,
It is true that at one time, Shirin was anti Mullarchy but in the past 6 months or so, virtually everything she has said was not only
'its all a mistake in interpretation' but also she has added liberal doses of anti US and anti semitic crap. She has also criticized the people protesting the Mullahs. Here is a link from last Dec by a persian anti Mullah http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/Potkin31212.htm
Posted by: mhw || 07/09/2004 12:30 Comments || Top||

#12  Her prattle rings hollow when she weasels in anti west/American blather.

Her saying that islam is being misrepresented by islamic people doesn't do it for me. It's fake, Rbr's know it. It's the inability for islamic people to say that which is the problem. It's either true or fake Mz Ebadi. Not misrepresented!

Islam is great for antique, tribal societies that live in the past. But it is not compatible with a "live and let live" modern society.

Free the muslims, bring down the pillars. As far as I can tell it's the only way. People that will speak out aginst islam in those places that hold tight to it are just a day away from being murdered. Thus the Barcelona location for the conference.
Posted by: Lucky || 07/09/2004 13:52 Comments || Top||

#13  This is the same Islamo-facist bitch that was telling the U.S. that we need to be more like Iran with respect to our treatment of women. She is in cahoots with the mullahs and probably with the Saddam lovers. I think you will notice that no Catholic or Anglican Bishop or Rabi was mentioned in the article. Looks like a group of religious scholars (not practitioners) getting together to bash Judeo-Christians. Anyone want to bet they come out with a statement that blames Christians, Jews, or both for the world’s problems?
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) || 07/09/2004 18:28 Comments || Top||

#14  DUMBASS PETE WIPE YOUR MOUTH AFTER YOU TAKE A CRAP AS YOU OBVIOUSLY TALK SHIT THROUGH IT.
Posted by: Antiwar || 07/09/2004 6:32 Comments || Top||


Africa: North
Egyptian Prime Minister, Cabinet Resigns
Posted by: Fred || 07/09/2004 20:58 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Home Front: Culture Wars
Stupid, dirty girl
Black civil-rights activists canceled plans for a protest after discovering a child insulted by California Education Secretary Richard Riordan was not African-American as originally believed, but a blonde, white girl. In an incident captured on video, Riordan, the former Los Angeles mayor, stunned participants in a promotional event July 1 at the Santa Barbara library by jokingly telling a 6-year-old her name, Isis, meant "stupid dirty girl."
Ummm... Richard? Isis was an Egyptian goddess. Does Riordan mean "stupid ignorant man"?
Alice Huffman, president of the California chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, said Thursday that Riordan "is not suitable to lead education in our state" and should be removed. Democratic state Assemblyman Mervyn Dymally called on Riordan to step down, telling the San Jose Mercury News the child was a "little African-American girl." "Would he (Riordan) have done that to a white girl?" Dymally asked.
Apparently he did...
But the lawmaker reversed himself and canceled a planned civil-rights demonstration after finding out the girl is white.
"Never mind."
Posted by: nada || 07/09/2004 18:07 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Mervyn Dymally? I've heard of him. Big, dumb Irish guy, right?
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/09/2004 20:48 Comments || Top||

#2  uh...no. I have NO idea why Riordan said that, even as a joke, it's not fathomable. The hypocrisy of the blacks when they found out he'd insulted a blonde white girl is telling.....:-)
Posted by: Frank G || 07/09/2004 20:58 Comments || Top||

#3  Lol! What a scream! So it just popped the outrage bubble when it couldn't be cast as a racial slur? Is there no shame left in the professional line-drawing race-baiting NAACP bigots? How pathetic and pandering. Once I believe they served a purpose and a constituency. Now they only serve themselves and their actions are a disservice to the rest of us. Sad.

Back O/T, it doesn't matter what color the kid is, the Riordan guy's an oaf and a blockhead! The child's father ought to get one free shot at this clown's jaw. That's what I'd be interested in doing if it was my daughter. Some activist judge will prolly order him to keep 1000 ft from children.
Posted by: .com || 07/09/2004 21:08 Comments || Top||

#4  Oh THAT (I can't help but step on my dick,) Dick Riordan. Hell the race baiters are always inconsistant, what do you expect from them?
Posted by: FlameBait93268 || 07/09/2004 21:13 Comments || Top||

#5  the naacp - julian bond, kwame mfuse - two of the most over the top bomb-throwing hacks I've ever seen - and they are the top two guys in their org. Simply pathetic. They talk a lot of sh&t but I bet the Bushman could take'em both.
Posted by: Jarhead || 07/09/2004 23:22 Comments || Top||


Caucasus
Caucasus Muslims Office Condemns Norwegian Ambassador
The Office of the Caucasus Muslims (QMI) condemned the Norwegian ambassador in Baku, Steinar Gil, on Thursday, claiming that he insulted believers by visiting Baku’s Juma mosque on Jule 4 while drunk. Haji Salman Musayev, deputy chairman of QMI, said the ambassador Gil scoffed at Juma congregants for their failure to protect their religious rights, calling them “cowards.” The Norwegian Royal Embassy refused to comment on the claims. The ambassador Gil has been a target of Azerbaijan’s state-controlled media the days following last October’s post-election riots in Baku for hosting several opposition leaders in the embassy building. Among those who found refugee in the Norwegian embassy were also Rauf Arifoglu, a deputy chairman of the main opposition Musavat (Equality) party and editor-in-chief of the opposition daily Yeni Musavat as well as Ilgar Ibrahimoglu, former imam of the Juma mosque. Both later surrendered to the authorities. While Ibrahimoglu received five years of suspended sentence for his alleged involvement in the riots, Arifoglu still is facing trial at Azerbaijan’s Heavy Crimes Court along with six other opposition leaders. Musayev of QMI also claimed that the Norwegian Royal Embassy supports Christian missionary activities in Azerbaijan.
Posted by: TS(vice girl) || 07/09/2004 9:52:54 AM || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:


Israel-Palestine
World Court Rules Israel’s Barrier Illegal
I guess not enough Joooooooos have been killed by suicide bombers lately so the World Court feels it needs to rectify that.
Posted by: Ol_Dirty_American || 07/09/2004 8:51:16 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  From Haaretz:

In building the fence, the court rules, Israel violated international humanitarian law, by infringing on Palestinians' freedom of movement, freedom to seek employment, education and health.

If Haaretz's paraphrase of the decision is accurate, then this is Tranzi-ism carried to its extreme. Your neighboring country is at war with you, opinion poll after opinion poll show that the enemy population wants to see you destroyed or ethnically cleansed, but you still have an obligation to give them freakin jobs. Every time the Israelis close the border check points we hear the same thing. If Palestinians can't get to their jobs inside Israel, then they're being discriminated against. So forgive me, my European colleagues if I get a little worked up about the direction of EU politics and political thinking. It is precisely this sort of upside down logic (I have to give a man a job and bread even though he hates me and wants to kill me) that will destroy Western Civilization, not levelling some hellhole like Fallujah or Jenin.
Posted by: 11A5S || 07/09/2004 9:39 Comments || Top||

#2  better headline:

World Court supports Genocide Against Israel
Posted by: mhw || 07/09/2004 9:58 Comments || Top||

#3  I hope Sharon tells them what they can do with their 'ruling.' I know what Bush would do if we were faced with the same circumstances. Build the wall! Screw the world court .
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) || 07/09/2004 14:24 Comments || Top||

#4  Exactly, mhw.
Posted by: jules 187 || 07/09/2004 14:44 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Den Beste: Michael Moore is America’s "Tater" (al-Sadr)
Has nothing to do with Moore’s potato-shaped physique, either. A long essay (does Den Beste ever write a short one?) but well worth the time. A couple excerpts, just to get you stoked:
al-Sadr’s primary power base was certain slums near Baghdad, but he soon got chased out of them. Eventually he moved his forces, and other militants who rallied to him, to the south and seized a couple of major cities there, ones considered holy by Shiites. In so doing, he (or his owners) hoped that American military response against him would be viewed as sacrilege by Shiites in Iraq and elsewhere. That would put a squeeze-play on Sistani and other Shiite clerics who had been supporting the Governing Council and cooperating with the Coalition. If they refused to change sides, they would be discredited with the broad mass of Shiites because they did not respond to desecration by opposing the desecrators. But if they did acknowledge and condemn such desecration, there’d be no half-way. They’d have to fully switch sides.

To prevent the uprising from spreading, the response was slow, methodical, and relatively cool. 1st Armored Division got the job of fighting against the Mehdi Army, and it refused to give al-Sadr the provocations and incidents he needed and hoped for. Even when members of the Mehdi Army used major holy sites and at least one major cemetery for military purposes (a war crime, just in passing), the Americans didn’t respond by flattening them.

Thus it was that the average uncommitted Shiite saw that the Americans treated those holy sites with more respect than the Mehdi Army did. Shiites did consider those holy sites to have been desecrated. Sistani publicly condemned the desecration, and those responsible for it: al-Sadr and his forces. There was no general Shiite uprising.

The Mehdi Army found itself surrounded, isolated, and on the losing end of a massively lopsided campaign of attrition. They tried to borrow the tactics used by the Chechens against the Russians with considerable success, but the problem was that those same tactics failed miserably against American troops. . . .

(The Belmont Club article at the hyperlink is worth reading in its own right.)

What I found myself wondering . . . was whether Michael Moore may, in the end, turn out to be the American Loonie Left’s Muqtada al-Sadr.

He’s become the rallying point. He’s raised the flag, and the most motivated LL’s are flocking to support him. He’s become their poster boy, their public face. He provides a focal point; he’s a magnet around which they can gather and organize. He has chosen the ground they will defend – and it is dreadful ground indeed.

His movies and books sell really well in Europe. But that isn’t as important . . . Moore’s stuff sells in Europe precisely because it seems to justify and reaffirm the prejudices many there have about Americans. It is unlikely that Moore is actually changing any minds, however. The Europeans who buy and read his books and pay to watch his films are the ones who already agree with him. They consume his material so they can laugh as he makes fun of us, and nod sagely as he explains how Big Oil and Corrupt Businesses are actually behind it all. (And the Jews. And the Saudis.)

His primary audience here in the US is exactly the same. He’s preaching to the converted. Non-LL’s who have gone to see his movie have concluded that it was a total crock. . . .

Nonetheless, . . . the LL’s have rallied to his flag. They’ve moved to his holy city. They’ve adopted positions on the terrain he’s chosen for the battle. And they’re using the arguments and evidence he provides as ammunition.

In the short term, it may seem as if the LL’s are mobilized and fighting hard. But it also leaves them concentrated and vulnerable. And they are fighting on just about the worst ground they could have chosen. . . . Moore has planted his flag smacko in the middle of the Holy City of anti-Americanism. To defend that position, the LL’s will now vocally proclaim something many have long believed but avoided admitting: they hate America and everything it stands for. That is not a message that will sell well to the broad electorate. They will proclaim that they love this nation, but... and then make clear that they despise most of the people who live in it, and despise the very features of this nation that the majority of us see as its greatest virtues. And they will poison the leftist political position even for non-loonie leftists. (Since Moore’s supporters constitute a significant base of support for the Democratic Party, they’re going to represent an ongoing headache for the Kerry campaign by their antics. And that will force him to continue to equivocate about his position major issues, to avoid alienating them, and at the same time avoid alienating the broad electorate.)

But we won’t find out in 2004. Michael Moore has done more than any other single man to guarantee that. Someone on the left may voice such an argument, but he’ll be drowned out by rabid LL jihadists as they stridently deliver a message tailor-made to alienate the broad electorate in style of presentation, in attitude, in substance, and in underlying message. Moore holds a locus of extreme political positions, and most Americans will consider at least one of them to be utterly odious. . . .
Pour yourself a nice cup of coffee and go read it all.
Posted by: Mike || 07/09/2004 8:39:57 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  not to be confused with the comedian Ron "'Tater Salad" White.
Posted by: Anonymous5652 || 07/09/2004 17:06 Comments || Top||


Russia
Putin's popularity rating is falling (Pravda....nuff said)
The rating of Vladimir Putin fell below the mark of 50 percent, first time after the beginning of his second term in office. Meanwhile, Putin still is far ahead of his political opponents in terms of popularity. According to the poll by Public Opinion Foundation, in the last week the rating of the President fell by 3 points and now it is 49 percent. 3,000 Russians from 200 towns and villages were asked for whom they would vote if the Presidential elections were conducted the coming Sunday. The former Presidential candidate from Russian Communist party Nikolai Kharitonov is in the second position. 4 percent of Russians are ready to vote for Vladimir Zhirinovsky, the leader of the Liberal-Democratic Party, and 3 percent - for Sergey Glaziev, the former leader of Rodina leftist block.

For the time after the Presidential elections in March, 2044, the rating of Vladimir Putin fell from 56 to 49 percent. The rating of his opponent Nikolai Kharitonov fell as well, from 9 to 5 percent. At the same time, there has been an increase in the number of people not willing to participate in the elections (from 11 to 15 percent) and those who made no choice of their candidate (from 7 to 12 percent).
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/09/2004 12:41:57 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Africa: Subsaharan
Nigeria headed for violent implosion
Nigeria is heading for a violent implosion that would dwarf the crisis in Sudan’s Darfur region, Nobel literature laureate Wole Soyinka says. A wave of mass killings in May this year was just a precursor to the balkanisation of Africa’s most populous nation and major oil exporter, he said, as rival ethnic and religious groups vie for dominance.

"I consider that Nigeria is on the verge, on the brink of a massive implosion that will make what’s happening in the Sudan child’s play," Soyinka said in an interview at his home in a tropical woodland about 50 miles (80 km) north of Lagos. "We know there are movements for secession in this country. We know that everybody is preparing for the contingency of breaking up. International organisations are also studying the situation," said Africa’s first Nobel Prize winner for literature, who will celebrate his 70th birthday next week.

More than 1,000 people were killed in a month of tit-for-tat fighting in central and northern Nigeria in May, heavily armed militia clash frequently in the Niger delta, and a political dispute in central Benue state has killed 150 this year alone. Analysts say Nigeria’s death toll from violence of at least 10,000 since democracy returned in 1999 puts the world’s seventh largest oil exporter on a par with high intensity conflicts in Colombia and Chechnya.

But the complexity of Nigeria’s wars, each with a unique set of ethnic, religious and political undertones, made them more difficult to understand than the "massive, uni-directional violence" in Sudan, Soyinka said of the crisis in Darfur where more than a million black Africans have been driven from their homes by Arab militias. The recurring massacres around Nigeria, Soyinka said, were "violent monologues" reflecting a deep imbalance in its make-up that could only be resolved in a fundamental rethink by the country’s ethnic groups in a Sovereign National Conference.

This idea first gained currency in Nigeria’s south after the annulment of elections in 1993, deemed to be the fairest in Nigeria’s history, which southerner Moshood Abiola was on course to win. It has since become a rallying cry nationwide for civil rights groups, which recently joined under an umbrella body called Civic Forum, set up by Soyinka. "The Sovereign National Conference would throw all the pieces of this country in a basket and try to bring a discernible feature out of it," he said.
With himself as the Grand VizarPresident, of course.
"This nation state was cobbled together by the British. Was it in the interest of the people who inhabited this space, or was it in the British interests?" Soyinka asked.

President Olusegun Obasanjo has opposed the formation of a sovereign conference, arguing that could lead to disintegration. "We are heading that way already," said Soyinka. "This is already a divided country." "If it is going to cost millions of lives to keep an entity together, I don’t want any part of it. It is better that you break peacefully." The introduction of Islamic law in 12 northern states, with punishments including stoning for adulterers and amputation for thieves, was already a "defiance of the integrity of this nation", Soyinka said.

Soyinka said he favoured keeping Nigeria intact, but would keep an open mind pending the findings of the conference.

Some analysts have argued that the idea of the sovereign conference is really a way for southern Nigerians, many of whom feel they have been dominated by the mainly Muslim north since independence in 1960, to achieve more power. Soyinka, who is a member of the Yoruba ethnic group that inhabits the south-west of the country, said this could be true, but the idea was gaining popularity among people in the north. "The important thing is that people should choose exactly what they want," Soyinka said.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 07/09/2004 9:58:30 PM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Read Soyinka's book, The Open Sore of a Continent. Yes, Soyinka is a politician. I don't believe he wants to be a dictator at all.

Besides, I have another reason to like him. If you read the book, look up the story of Walter Ofonagoro. I had the misfortune of having him as my history instructor at Brooklyn College in 1975. Anyone who dislikes that man the way Soyinka does is all right in my book.
Posted by: Eric Jablow || 07/09/2004 0:52 Comments || Top||

#2  Nigeria devolving into chaos means further oil/energy price hikes, considering Nigeria is yet another OPEC exporting nation in turmoil.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/09/2004 1:09 Comments || Top||

#3  I hope they do find a way to peacefully dis-assmeble what was n artifical European divison and conglomeration of tribal areas. If they do not, then its will be tribal warfare - and more Muslims destroying and comitting mass murder in the name of Allah.

To get a taste, watch the movie "Tears of the Sun" (pretty good movie - Bruce Willis, Navy Seal, etc). Despite some of the technical inconsistencies (aircraf t armament, bomb effects, cell phone workign in the deep bush, and a few slips in how the Seals operate), it does show pretty well the tribal nature of things.

And more importantly it shows what happens when you combine that tribalism and racism with technology, automatic weapons, and despots.

I've seen some things of that sort with my own eyes. You wonder how people like the despot's henchmen even qualify as human beings after the kinds of butchery they commit.

God help the Nigerians - for if they do not come to their senses, there will be a bloodbath of historical proportions there.
Posted by: OldSpook || 07/09/2004 2:03 Comments || Top||

#4  Actually, a north south split in Nigeria would be good in the long term for oil availability. The south, mostly non Moslem, has the oil.
Posted by: mhw || 07/09/2004 10:03 Comments || Top||

#5  First will come the chaos, then accusations and guilt-throwing from the international community at the West for post-imperial messes, then public opinion pressure for us to intervene and dole out money. Repeat 50 times in the next 5 years. All amidst a lot of dead people.

That should satisfy the international community-with its toxic guilt and anti-American trappings. This time, instead of doing the world's bidding and then getting chastised for it, and seeing scant number of other countries ever putting their lives where their mouths are, we should shrug like Atlas.
Posted by: jules 187 || 07/09/2004 10:36 Comments || Top||

#6  I sure hope my share of Sani Abacha's fortune is in the south...already there's been delays in transferring the funds to my bank account. This shit will probably require me to deposit more $ with my new Nigerian friends
Posted by: Frank G || 07/09/2004 10:43 Comments || Top||

#7  Did you say Sani Abacha, Frank?
HEY!!!! Those lousy bastards!!!!
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/09/2004 12:35 Comments || Top||

#8  mhw, you are correct in stating "The south, mostly non Moslem, has the oil." Which is one main reason why the Islamic ruled north of the nation would love to control the south.

It's always about the oil.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/09/2004 21:44 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Outbreak of the trotz in Balochistan: 2 dead, 400 hospitalised
A team of the World Health Organisation (WHO) has been sent to Fort Abbas to control an outbreak of diarrhoea and dysentery and chlorinate water in adjacent rural areas, said Punjab Director of WHO, Dr Ismatullah Chaudhry. He said that a complete ban had been imposed on cigarette smoking in the affected area and all ice factories using contaminated water and manufacturing substandard ice had been closed down.
Cigarette smoking causes the trotz?
We docs will use any excuse to get you to quit smoking.
Purified water was being supplied to the people using fire brigade vans, said Mr Chaudhry. More than 400 people suffering from diarrhoea and dysentery have been hospitalised in Fort Abbas town since July 2. Two of them have died, while 250 were cured and discharged, leaving only 150 people in THQ hospital. “A state of emergency has been declared in the hospital because almost 30 to 35 patients are being admitted daily,” said Dr Rao Shahid Tasleem, medical superintendent of THQ Hospital, Fort Abbas. “Besides two people who were brought to the hospital very late and died of dehydration, the epidemic has been largely controlled.” He said that at least 35 patients were discharged on Thursday, leaving only 150 in hospital.
Posted by: Fred || 07/09/2004 10:36:27 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Cigs??? WTF??? I say we air drop come USDA "Cheese food product" to them. They will quit going and blame those dammed 'mericans for binding up their bowels.

Just goes to show how most of us take our clean water sources for granted.
Posted by: FlameBait93268 || 07/09/2004 1:16 Comments || Top||

#2  Give 'em some MREs. Hell, just send 'em the peanut butter and crackers.

Nah... they'd start to believe that they'll never sh*t again, and start burning stuff and killing people.
Posted by: BH || 07/09/2004 1:37 Comments || Top||

#3  Another in a long list of things we fight for.
The western miracle of Chlorinated water.
Posted by: Shipman || 07/09/2004 10:02 Comments || Top||

#4  He said that a complete ban had been imposed on cigarette smoking in the affected area...

Huh? Smoking causes dysentery now? Global Warming has nothing to do with this? Halliburton?
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/09/2004 10:08 Comments || Top||

#5  my sister got me some "Sphincter Shrinker" hot sauce from a trip to Sedona, bet that'd help :-)
Posted by: Frank G || 07/09/2004 10:23 Comments || Top||

#6  Hail Sedona!
Happy Land!
Posted by: Shipman || 07/09/2004 10:53 Comments || Top||

#7  Clean drinking water - the real environmental miracle! Where's Earth Last First et al. in this? (chirp, chirp) No money or fame in keeping babies from dying from dysentery.
Posted by: Spot || 07/10/2004 8:34 Comments || Top||


Acid attack on councillor: Husband confesses, surrenders to police
Muhammad Arshad appeared before the police on Wednesday and confessed that he had thrown acid on his wife, Shagufta, and their four children on July 1. Shagufta is a councillor. Arshad told police that a man named Mohammad Mudassar had instigated him against his wife and made him believe that she was involved in extra-marital relations with her fellow councillors.
"They hold them council meetings nekkid, y'know, Muhammad?"
Muddassar had also supplied Arshad with the acid that he threw on his wife and children. Police has granted Arshad a three-day physical remand to recover the bottle of acid. “Shagufta Arshad is still in critical condition with burns on 60 percent of her body and a permanent loss of eyesight,” said Sarfraz Hussain Sindhu, DIG Bahawalpur.
60% burns? That's a lot of acid. How big a container is he retrieving?
“Her children, Fareeha, a student of class eight and sons Waqas, Naqqash and Waqar are recovering in the burns unit.” He said that Civil Lines police had registered a case under section 334/5 PPC and were searching for the culprit.
I thought he turned himself in? But then the cops let him out to get the bottle... Oh. I see.
“Muhammad Arshad got angry at his wife when she went to her parent’s house even though he was fulfilling all her needs,” claimed Arshad’s brother, Bashir Ahmed. “Her husband gave her Rs 34,000, purchased an air-conditioned vehicle and even allowed her to set up a boutique.” Another lady councillor and Shagufta’s friend, Zahida, told journalists that Shagufta and Muhammad Arshad had been happily married for the last 20 years ago and differences had risen recently after Shagufta was elected as the district councillor. Her husband suspected that her appointment was due to sexual relations with other councillors and the nazim, Zahida claimed. Also, Arshad lost his job during the time that Shagufta was elected, and was unable to provide for his family, she claimed. In order to meet financial needs, the family moved into Shagufta’s brother’s house and rented out their own house, she said. On July 1, Arshad went to see his wife and children at Shagufta’s brothers house where his daughter, Fareeha, asked him for money. Arshad was reportedly angered by the demand and threw acid on his wife and children. He fled, leaving them in a critical condition.
Posted by: Fred || 07/09/2004 10:50:26 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Arshad went to see his wife and children at Shagufta’s brothers house where his daughter, Fareeha, asked him for money. Arshad was reportedly angered by the demand and threw acid on his wife and children.

When we asked for money, all dad used to do was tell us sob stories about "when I was your age".
But, then again, we didn't have a 55 gallon drum of acid laying around the house like it appears most Muslims do..
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/09/2004 11:19 Comments || Top||

#2  They should lighten up - it was a spontaneous act. Hell, everyone carries a pint or two of acid around with them. Never know when you'll need to etch some glass, clean a gummed-up carburator part, or blind / kill some willful femalians. Sheesh. A passing passion thingy, no big deal. See, he's calm, now.
Posted by: .com || 07/09/2004 11:28 Comments || Top||

#3  think he'll be back in three days? Rantburg Futures bet?
Posted by: Frank G || 07/09/2004 11:32 Comments || Top||



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