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-Short Attention Span Theater-
Gorbachev to Trademark His Forehead
EFL from Newsmax not Scrappleface

The former Soviet leader who went head to head with Ronald Reagan is taking the concept of intellectual property to a new place. After a Russian vodka company started putting Mikhail Gorbachev’s forehead birthmark on its bottle labels, the ex-premier moved to copyright the famous port wine stain himself.
Ironically, a strict anti-drinking initiative was one of Gorbachev’s pet projects back in his heyday of promoting Perestroika.

Political cartoonists who made the birthmark synonymous with the Communist president will be grateful he didn’t think of trademarking it earlier. "Given how seriously he seems to be taking these matters, companies may soon find themselves in court," observes Minneapolis trademark lawyer Michael Bondi in Inc. Magazine.

I’m sure Court TV’s Russian Bureau is on the case.
Posted by: Super Hose || 04/13/2004 2:52:29 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Gorby didn't complain about the condiment company which has jars of stuff that bears his image. (Mustard, Horseradish sauce, etc.)
I think he is genuinely concerned about the booze effect. Russia is big on personalities on products. There is (appropriately) Yeltsin Vodka, and Czar Nicholas II Tea.
Posted by: Anonymous4052 || 04/13/2004 15:07 Comments || Top||

#2  I've been thinking of having my left butt cheek trademarked...
Posted by: Fred || 04/13/2004 15:59 Comments || Top||

#3  Fred - no can do - would violate Antiwar's patent on thought patterns
Posted by: Frank G || 04/13/2004 16:01 Comments || Top||


Dead Candidate Wins Votes in Indonesia
Posted by: Fred || 04/13/2004 13:14 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Another candidate for mayor of Miami!
Posted by: The Doctor || 04/13/2004 13:15 Comments || Top||

#2  It was the Chicago votes that made the difference...
Posted by: Fred || 04/13/2004 13:53 Comments || Top||

#3  I gotta hand it to FDR - he never gives up.
Posted by: Unmutual || 04/13/2004 14:04 Comments || Top||

#4  In 2000, Los Angeles County California the incumbent Sherrif died the Sunday before the vote. The County board of Supervisors said, "Vote for the deceased Sherman Block so we can pick a good Sherrif for you." Yeah, right. The living opponent, Lee Baca won easily.
Posted by: Anonymous4052 || 04/13/2004 15:12 Comments || Top||

#5  What's Carnahan in the local dialect?
Posted by: eLarson || 04/13/2004 17:11 Comments || Top||


Drink to your health
A man walks into a bar and orders a 12-ounce bottle of Corona Extra. Another man walks in and orders a 12-ounce Guinness draft. The two men turn to each other, raise their glasses and say, "Here's to your health." Question: Whose dietary and health interests are better served by the 12-ounce beer? If the guidelines are less alcohol, fewer calories, fewer carbohydrates and, to top it off, protection against heart attacks, blindness and maybe even impotence, then it's the Guinness drinker, hands-down. No joke.
Ummmmmm, beer
Guinness, in fact, is lower in alcohol, calories and carbohydrates than Samuel Adams, Budweiser, Heineken and almost every other major-brand beer not classified as light or low-carb. It has fewer calories and carbohydrates than low-fat milk and orange juice, too. Could this be the same Irish stout that looks like a still-life root-beer float and tastes about as filling as a quarter-pounder with cheese? This tastes-great, more-filling formula defies nutritional expectations because Guinness is so low in alcohol, a source of empty calories. Guinness is 4.2 percent alcohol by volume, the same as Coors Light. Budweiser and Heineken check in at 5 percent. "That surprised me," says Dr. Joseph Brennan, a Yale-New Haven Hospital cardiologist of Irish heritage and a confirmed Guinness drinker. "I could never understand why one or two wouldn't leave me light-headed."
Four pints, however........
Brennan, like many cardiologists, recommends a drink a day for his cardiac patients. Red wine, in particular, has been shown to help prevent heart attacks. Now maybe it's beer's turn. A University of Wisconsin study last fall found that moderate consumption of Guinness worked like aspirin to prevent clots that increase the risk of heart attacks. In the study, Guinness proved twice as effective as Heineken at preventing blood clots. Guinness is loaded with flavonoids, antioxidants that give dark color to certain fruits and vegetables. These antioxidants are better than vitamins C and E, the study found, at keeping bad LDL (bad) cholesterol from clogging arteries. Blocked arteries also contribute to erectile dysfunction, as does overindulgence in alcohol. Guinness has a higher concentration than lighter beers of vitamin B, which lowers levels of homocysteine, linked to clogged arteries. And researchers have found that antioxidants from the moderate use of stout might reduce the incidence of cataracts by as much as 50 percent.
Hummmm, I should live forever and be able to see who I'm nailing as well.
It's milk's line, but beer gives you strong bones, too. "The reason, we think, is that beer is a major contributor to the diet of silicon," says Katherine Tucker, an associate professor of nutritional epidemiology at Tufts University's Friedman School of Nutrition Science and Policy. Tucker recently participated in a study that showed beer, either dark or light, protects bone-mineral density because of its high levels of silicon, which allows the deposit of calcium and other minerals into bone tissue. In Ireland, where the slogan "Guinness Is Good for You" was born, the stout's medicinal uses are the stuff of legend. Diageo, the U.S. distributor of Guinness, makes no claims about its medical benefits, says spokeswoman Beth Davies from the company's offices in Stamford, Conn. But a visitor to Ireland might hear accounts (most no longer, if ever, true) of Guinness administered to nursing mothers, blood donors, stomach and intestinal post-operative patients and mothers recovering from childbirth.
Now, please excuse me. I have to go take my medicine.
Posted by: Steve || 04/13/2004 10:52:13 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  As someone who was brought up to believe that Guiness is "Mothers Milk" I can't but agree with you.
Did you know that in Africa, Guiness is considered an aphrodisiac?
They see "Guiness is good for you" in a different light.
But then again Guniness and twelve oysters, definitatly are a lovers treat.
However the last time I tried it, I wasted two of the oysters.

These days I'm findind it a bit heavy and am sticking to Victoria Bitter.
The best beer for money there is.
Posted by: tipper || 04/13/2004 11:29 Comments || Top||

#2  this article pointless. if im want nutrition i have salad and green vegetable. im drinking beer for a buzz and guiness look like it cost lot of money to short me on a buzz and taste like armpit sweat to boot. this guines crap look like somthing chainey yank out the ground.
Posted by: muck4doo || 04/13/2004 11:36 Comments || Top||

#3  Ah, Muckie...the ubiquitous "It's all chainney's fault." to start my day...You never disappoint! LOL
Posted by: Jen || 04/13/2004 11:38 Comments || Top||

#4  OMG Great post!--Still laughing a half hour later and shared it with co-workers
Posted by: Not Mike Moore || 04/13/2004 21:30 Comments || Top||

#5  When I was in hospital in the UK in the 60s, all the men got a bottle guiness each day. This was an orthapedic ward and many of the men couldn't walk. The thinking was that it helped maintain body and muscle bulk.

BTW Guiness is very popular in Asia.
Posted by: Phil B || 04/13/2004 21:50 Comments || Top||


Hog Poop Pig Manure Can Become Crude Oil
A University of Illinois research team is working on turning pig manure into a form of crude oil that could be refined to heat homes or generate electricity. Years of research and fine-tuning are ahead before the idea could be commercially viable, but results so far indicate there might be big benefits for farmers and consumers, lead researcher Yanhui Zhang said.

"This is making more sense in terms of alternative energy or renewable energy and strategically for reducing our dependency on foreign oil," said Zhang, an associate professor of agricultural and biological engineering. "Definitely, there is potential in the long term." The thermochemical conversion process uses intense heat and pressure to break down the molecular structure of manure into oil. It’s much like the natural process that turns organic matter into oil over centuries, but in the laboratory the process can take as little as a half-hour. A similar process is being used at a plant in Carthage, Mo., where tons of turkey entrails, feathers, fat and grease from a nearby Butterball turkey plant are converted into a light crude oil, said Julie DeYoung, a spokeswoman for Omaha, Neb.-based Conagra Foods, which operates the plant in a joint venture with Changing World Technologies of Long Island, N.Y. Converting manure is sure to catch the attention of swine producers. Safe containment of livestock waste is costly for farmers, especially at large confinement operations where thousands of tons of manure are produced each year. Also, odors produced by swine farms have made them a nuisance to neighbors.

"If this ultimately becomes one of the silver bullets to help the industry, I’m absolutely in favor of it," said Jim Kaitschuk, executive director of the Illinois Pork Producers Association. Zhang and his research team have found that converting manure into crude oil is possible in small batches, but much more research is needed to develop a continuously operating reaction chamber that could handle large amounts of manure. That is key to making the process practicable and economically viable. Zhang predicted that one day a reactor the size of a home furnace could process the manure generated by 2,000 hogs at a cost of about $10 per barrel.

Big oil refineries are unlikely to purchase crude oil made from converted manure, Zhang said, because they aren’t set up to refine it. But the oil could be used to fuel smaller electric or heating plants, or to make plastics, ink or asphalt, he said. "Crude oil is our first raw material," he said. "If we can make it value-added, suddenly the whole economic picture becomes brighter."

Ironic that dependency on middle-east oil might be alleviated by pigs.
Posted by: Lux || 04/13/2004 8:32:16 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "...crude oil that could be refined to heat homes or generate electricity..." There's the catch: it can't be refined with conventional large-scale (i.e. economical) processes, and it has to be refined before it goes into my small engines or my furnace. Sorry, Zhang, but I'm afraid you lose out to the guys who are putting it into anaerobic digesters and making useful methane and fertilizer. And their processes work for dairy and chicken wastes too. Unfortunately, the payback is 15-20 years, so this is mostly just academic thesis stuff except to the extent it is used to control odors and run-off.
Posted by: Tom || 04/13/2004 9:03 Comments || Top||

#2  "Pig Manure Can Become Crude Oil"

So . . . that means we can drill for oil in the comment threads at democraticunderground.com?
Posted by: Mike || 04/13/2004 9:16 Comments || Top||

#3  Horse manure fuels our energy policy, delivered by (what else?) horse's asses, so it is fitting that pig manure should provide the thing itself. Too bad about the practicality angle.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 04/13/2004 10:01 Comments || Top||

#4  This story gets recycled on a regular basis and SDB debunct it about a year back. Go search his archives. Even it works and it is both economically and energy viable, it doesn't scale. There aren't enough pigs even in China to make a difference to energy supply.
Posted by: Phil B || 04/13/2004 10:12 Comments || Top||

#5  Yeah Phil B it was turkey manure last time.
Posted by: Shipman || 04/13/2004 10:16 Comments || Top||

#6  Zhang predicted that one day a reactor the size of a home furnace could process the manure generated by 2,000 hogs at a cost of about $10 per barrel.

It would be nice if the guy gave us a number on the cost per barrel on an experimental basis. If it was $30 a barrel, then they're borderline competitive with OPEC. If it's $100 a barrel, then it's at little more than the talking shop stages.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 04/13/2004 10:52 Comments || Top||

#7  Turkey guts to oil isn't an internet myth, they're producing 500BBL/day in Missouri with another plant under construction in Italy.
http://www.changingworldtech.com/pdf/GenConfLasVegas3_3_04.pdf
The $20M plant produces 500BBL/day, but they don't give any information on financial performance. But then, they were paying to dispose of the waste. They say that old tires, pc's, municipal waste or any other organic material can be used. Assuming no economies of scale, that runs about $390 billion to replace our total oil imports,or roughly 3-1/2 years of oil import payments at current prices. That price tag is less than the cost of implementing Kyoto. The middle east has less than 20 years to invent a real economy.
Posted by: Anonymous4132 || 04/13/2004 11:52 Comments || Top||

#8  That explains Haliburton's recent interest in purchasing 500 Iowa hog farms...
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/13/2004 12:10 Comments || Top||

#9  muck4chainey ?
Posted by: Lux || 04/13/2004 12:11 Comments || Top||

#10  oh please oh please...so what if it takes multiple pigs X 10 to make enough poop. We have multiple pigs X 10 pooping every day anyway.

don't you SEE the beautiful irony in this??? We can tell the Arab world to leave their oil where the sun don't shine....we don't need YOU...pig poop is more important to us than you are.

It would just be the ultimate FU.
Posted by: B || 04/13/2004 17:31 Comments || Top||

#11  lux it sound more like chainey4doo.
Posted by: muck4doo || 04/13/2004 18:37 Comments || Top||

#12  I know that there have been experiments to turn hog waste into methane using "digesters" but oil is a new slant. If the waste to oil thesis works--lookout NC and Iowa will be the next Saudi LOL
Posted by: Not Mike Moore || 04/13/2004 21:44 Comments || Top||

#13  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: mhw TROLL || 04/13/2004 21:50 Comments || Top||

#14  there was an article in Discovery on this issue last year...

there are many industrial sized operations in the US that generate more than 1000 tons of pig, chicken or cattle manure per day

like NMmoore, I think a lot of methane operations already exist but they are still somewhat primitive, require lots of land for the methane processing and do not reduce the disposal problem enough
Posted by: mhw || 04/13/2004 21:50 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Kuwait: Law on blasphemy put on hold
The National Assembly's Education, Culture and Guidance Committee on Monday postponed, to its next meeting on April 26, the issuance of a decision regarding the Publications law's article on the penalty for blasphemy, and any affront to messengers, angels and companions of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). Head of the committee, MP Mohammad Al-Busairi told reporters the committee might separate this particular article into two, one on the penalty for blasphemy, disparagement of messengers, prophets, angels and the Holy Quran, and the second is on affront to the Prophet Muhammad's (PBUH) companions, and wives.
That way they can cut your head off twice.
He added the committee has agreed in principle on the related penalties, noting this law had various religious aspects, as well as ones related to the freedom of expression and political and cultural backgrounds.
The way it's applied in Pakland sez differently...
Al-Busairi added the committee has heard the opinions of Head of the Supreme Consultative Committee to Implement Islamic Sharia in Kuwait, Dr Khalid Al Mathkour, and of the Dean of the Kuwait University's Sharia Faculty, and member of the Fatwa Department, Dr. Mohammad Al-Tabtabaie. He also said after the hearing session, the committee saw it suitable to postpone the announcement of its relevant decision to the meeting scheduled on April 26, so as to reach a final and satisfactory decision. He added the committee has approved all other articles in that law, except for that particular penal one, saying it was necessary to consider all perspective views of the government...
Posted by: Fred || 04/13/2004 14:09 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  While the law is on hold, allow me to take this rare opportunity to say to all our Kuwaiti readers:
Your prophet Mohammed was a crazy jerk!
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 04/13/2004 14:17 Comments || Top||

#2  The problem with any blasphemy law is that when you put its enforcement in the hands of members of any religion, the slightest disagreement can be considered a blasphemy. Saying you consider Jesus Christ the savior of humanity could be the eqivalent of slamming Mohammed. Justification? Simple: you're ignoring the Prophet of Islam's message, you're putting someone else ahead of him - someone Mohammed claimed wasn't as great as he was. So it doesn't matter how they write it, how many perspectives they consider, unless they scrap it, it's not going to help anything. I just hope the Left never tries to pull anything like this here.
Posted by: The Doctor || 04/13/2004 19:44 Comments || Top||

#3  Yep--I agree--thank Allah Bush Sr saved this sovereign democracy from Saddam Hussein and re-installed the Al-Sabah democracy! That's what we were fighting for--not OIL!
Posted by: Not Mike Moore || 04/13/2004 22:23 Comments || Top||


Yemen coppers, car thieves shoot it out
Posted by: Fred || 04/13/2004 13:42 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:


Two Russian journalists held in Qatar
Posted by: Fred || 04/13/2004 13:28 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Saudi Arabia makes largest ever drug bust of five tons of hashish
Posted by: Fred || 04/13/2004 13:26 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  (cough)afghanistan(cough)

Excuse me. Frog in my throat.
Posted by: mojo || 04/13/2004 17:19 Comments || Top||

#2  A number of Islamic countries have severe drugs problems - Iran a million heoin addicts and I have seen estimates as high as 3 million in Pakistan. These are huge numbers. Its symptomatic of their society's inability to adjust to new situations and solve problems.
Posted by: Phil B || 04/13/2004 20:21 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
Taiwan's parties finalise plans for election recount
Cheez, they're slower than Florida.
Lawyers for Taiwan's ruling and opposition parties agreed yesterday on details for a recount of last month's disputed presidential election, clearing the way for a solution to the island's continued political crisis.

Lien Chan, the opposition Kuomintang's presidential candidate who was defeated by a margin of less than 30,000 out of more than 13m votes cast on March 20, has sued Chen Shui-bian, the president, and Annette Lu, vice-president, demanding the court nullify their election victory. Mr Lien has insinuated Mr Chen staged a shooting on the eve of the election in which he and Ms Lu were slightly injured and which appears to have earned them a sympathy vote. The opposition also claims the president rigged the election, but has failed to present solid evidence so far. The opposition has organised demonstrations against the president to back its demands for a recount and a legislative investigation into the shooting. With a recount backed by both sides, a final election result that the opposition would no longer challenge could be out by the end of May.

Under presiding judge Wu Ching-yuan, both parties hammered out an agreement on the scope and the procedures for the recount yesterday. "All the major points of disagreement are solved now," said Jaclyn Tsai, head of Mr Lien's legal team. Wellington Koo, Mr Chen's lawyer, said he expected the recount to begin in mid-May. The recount is expected to take up to four days, Mr Koo said. It was therefore unlikely to be finished before Mr Chen's inauguration for his second term on May 20. The agreement is likely further to erode support for the opposition's protests against Mr Chen.
That's clever.
Most observers expect the recount to bring to light some irregularities but not to change the election result.

The opposition has also sued the Central Election Commission for alleged irregularities in the voting process. If the commission is found guilty, judges could declare the whole election illegal and demand a new vote. However, lawyers said this was unlikely if a comprehensive recount in the first case did not change the election result.
Posted by: Steve White || 04/13/2004 12:34:19 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Europe
Turkey Aims to Promote Muslim Democracy
Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan's Islamic-rooted governing party says it is on a mission: to prove that Islam is compatible with democracy.
I'm on a mission, too: to find a kosher ham sandwich.
So, Turkey appears to be an ideal host for a two-day summit that began Tuesday at which political and civil leaders from Muslim countries are addressing the struggle for democracy in the Islamic world. Yet, even within Turkey the idea of combining democracy and Islam is a tense issue. Erdogan's push has been hailed by some in the West who are looking for an example of an overwhelmingly Muslim country that has embraced democracy. But others in Turkey fear that heightened Islamic sentiment in the government could weaken the country's staunch official secularism. "I do not claim, of course, that Turkey's experience is a model that can be implemented identically in all other Muslim societies," Erdogan said in a speech in Washington earlier this year. "However, the Turkish experience does have a substance which can serve as a source of inspiration for other Muslim societies, other Muslim peoples."
That's true, which is why Turkey is roundly reviled among Islamists.
Jordanian Foreign Minister Marwan Muasher said Tuesday that there was no single model for the region. "A one blueprint for all action plan is unrealistic," he said in a speech.
"Therefore we should do nothing."
Representatives from a dozen other countries, such as Indonesia, Sierra Leone, Bahrain and Bosnia-Herzegovina are participating in the summit. Representatives of Syria, Iran and Saudi Arabia, whose human rights records have been criticized by the United States, did not come. Cemil Cicek, Turkey's justice minister, criticized those who link terrorism with Islam. "Let me clearly state that (terrorism) has nothing to do with the essence of Islam," he said at the opening of the conference. But he added: "Democracy, human rights and rule of law are very urgent needs for the Islamic community."
And terrorism has lots to do with the essence of Islamism...
The Congress of Democrats from the Islamic World comes amid a U.S. push for reforms in the Middle East, as well as debate over the role of religion in political life in Islamic countries and concerns about the prospects for democracy in countries including Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, and Saudi Arabia. The meeting is sponsored by the U.N. Development Program and the Washington-based National Democratic Institute for International Affairs, which is headed by former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, who is attending.
Why did any confidence I might have had in the effort just evaporate?
"It was a conscious choice to hold this meeting in Turkey," said Abdel Karim al-Iryani, a former prime minister of Yemen, who is attending the congress. "The (Turkish) Islamic movement embraced the secular state. This new experience in Turkey is a model for all Muslim countries."
Posted by: Fred || 04/13/2004 13:12 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Fifth Column
Islam can do democracy...really
Haroon Siddiqui proves we’re wrong once again: from the Toronto Star
When grilling Muslims in terrorism-related probes, police often ask about the suspect’s religiosity and politics: "How often do you pray?" "What do you think of America?"
Because we know that Muslims are grilled every day in terrorism-related probes. They live in sectioned off ghettos as well. Oh the puppies and baby ducks!!!
Measured that way, most Malaysians and Indonesians would be deemed dangerous. They are very religious and very anti-American. Yet both have just overwhelmingly rejected Islamic parties in separate elections. And in Algeria, a secular president won re-election Thursday with the strong support of the leading Islamic party. These developments trump North American stereotypes of Muslims, as well as the racist idea that they, and Islam, are incompatible with democracy.
Yup. I’m convinced.
Add the mildly Islamist government in Turkey to the mix and you begin to see a healthy democratic pattern.
No jokes please, he’s being serious.
Contrast this with President George W. Bush’s much-ballyhooed plan to bring democracy to Arabs. The war on Iraq was to serve as the first step in "transforming the Middle East."
It could still be transformed, but it will require major surgery and of course there are those that do not wish it transformed. The Marines are working on it at the moment.
It was part of what his national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, described to the congressional 9/11 commission on Thursday as Bush’s grand design of responding to terrorism "in a strategic sense," not just "a tactical sense." Human rights, women’s empowerment, freedom and elections were to be the antidote to the lure that Osama bin Laden and others held for young Muslims. Who could argue?
Obviously you could.
Yet, the Bush plan is in ruins. The April 5 Arab summit in Tunis that was to debate it was cancelled.
See, he just proved it’s all Bush’s fault!
Even reform-minded leaders do not want to be seen doing Bush’s bidding, so toxic is his name due to the invasion and botched occupation of Iraq, plus America’s failure to deliver on the promise of peace between Palestinians and Israelis.
That’s because there’s one Yasshole who doesn’t want to undergo a transformation. I wonder why you didn’t include the PA as an example of a healthy democracy. They have a parliament and everything. Not to mention that Iraq was a healthy democracy in the days of Saddam.
Yet with little or no American interference, Algerians, Indonesians and Malaysians are working their way through democracy to a moderate course away from past upheavals.
Then he goes on to prove that four predominately Islamic countries are in fact, democratic.
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So, in four Muslim nations where people tend to be pious, voters are judging Islamic parties not by piety alone.
Yeah, they’re saying jihad is bad for business.
And their leaders are giving due deference to Islam without pandering to militancy, while keeping their distance from Bush.
Seems they’re keeping a distance from Mecca as well. Is it just a coincidence that the four countries he mentions are quite a ways off from Saudi Arabia? Seems the closer you get to the epicenter the less democratic you become.
The moral of the story is this:
Islamic identity, always important to Muslims, is becoming more so. This is evident right across the Muslim world, not just in the nations under discussion here. The more successful Muslim leaders are those who, reflecting national sentiment, refuse to turn their countries into American outposts, even while pursuing broadly pro-Western policies.
Pro-Western policies like worrying about jobs and the economy rather than waging jihad. And remember, national sentiment is a two edged sword.
America will make greater progress with Muslims by accepting Islam on the same rational terms as other religions and by grasping that the post-colonial era of having anti-religious secularists or Islamic toadies doing Washington’s bidding is coming to an end.
But...I did accept Islam on the same rational terms as other religions...before 9-11. The more I came to know it since then, the more I realized it wasn’t rational. Perhaps you would do better if you told your Islamist jihadi buddies to stop bombing people in the name of Islam.
The future lies in encouraging the growth of genuine, homegrown democracies and in respecting their verdicts.
I don’t get this guy. He went out to prove that Islam is compatible with democracy, and he did the exact opposite! He gave four (questionable) examples out of how many?? Sorry. Thanks for playing. Try again.
Posted by: Rafael || 04/13/2004 3:31:56 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "...When grilling Muslims in terrorism-related probes..."

... baste generously with oil...
Posted by: Hyper || 04/13/2004 9:09 Comments || Top||

#2  ...or lard.
Posted by: Seafarious || 04/13/2004 10:26 Comments || Top||

#3  America will make greater progress with Muslims by accepting Islam on the same rational terms as other religions ...

I'll accept Islam as a rational religion when I finally see wave upon wave of moderate Imams "gloriously" martyring themselves by going into the extremist areas to preach the essential aspect of non-violent religious struggle.

Until Muslims everywhere thrust from their ranks those who espouse violent jihad, they will not be taken seriously and for every good reason. The remaining world would be insane to accept Islam on its present terms.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/13/2004 11:35 Comments || Top||

#4  Myself, I'll accept it as a rational religion when I see them respecting other beliefs with the same consideration they demand for theirs.
Good thing I am not holding my breath waiting for this to happen...
Posted by: Sgt. Mom || 04/13/2004 12:04 Comments || Top||


Great White North
Montreal fans boo U.S. anthem, AGAIN
Posted by: TS || 04/13/2004 11:39 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  canadians keep proving that they are adolescents....time to start discussions with the maritime terrotories about eventual statehood. as soon as the loonies in quebec go for the seccesion issue again we should be open to inquires. the last time this was an issue we, clinton, brushed them off.
Posted by: Dan || 04/13/2004 12:07 Comments || Top||

#2  Let's not forget the Plains Provinces! Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta, British Columbia, and the Yukon would give us a land link with Alaska, open up the way for a pipeline from Prudhoe Bay to Denver (with multiple refineries along the way), and open up some really fantastic fishing waters. Not to mention make it easier for me to visit a few dozen friends who live north of Montana!
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/13/2004 12:15 Comments || Top||

#3  If the Bruins kick the Canadiens' asses, well....
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 04/13/2004 12:17 Comments || Top||

#4  motreal canadien fan have tradition of being assholes. even back in 1950s they start riot when rocket man have bad game. for long time hockey players cant be on canadiens unless they french canadien and that is discriminate. this same team also boo off ice patrick roy who arguable best goalie ever play so he leave motreal canadien and win stanley cup with colorado and have last laugh against canadiens.
there are four other canadian team in playoffs right now. vancouver calgary ottawa and toronto but they all playing against each other and not any american team till next round. im not thinking any fo there fan will act like that. that seem to be a montreal thing.
Posted by: muck4doo || 04/13/2004 12:47 Comments || Top||

#5  Ah, so muck4doo remembers the 50's and has watched hockey back in the good old days. Another clue that all is not what it seems.
Posted by: Steve || 04/13/2004 12:57 Comments || Top||

#6  Can't wait for Game 5 at the Fleece, er, Fleet Center with thousands of drunk, pissed off Massholes...
Posted by: Raj || 04/13/2004 12:59 Comments || Top||

#7  I dare them to go to Detroit and do that.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 04/13/2004 13:09 Comments || Top||

#8  no steve that before my time but i read it in hockey news 50 greatest players book. canadiens fan are to hockey what eagle fans are to football. dteroit red wing fans also jerks cuz they killing poor octopus who just minding own busines in the ocean just to throw him on ice.
Posted by: muck4doo || 04/13/2004 13:13 Comments || Top||

#9  Don't be so hard on the Red Wings fans, Muck. The only time we ever saw an octopus was on ice at the fish market. We just figured that was its natural habitat.
Posted by: SteveS || 04/13/2004 13:57 Comments || Top||

#10  As a Lightning fan, I want the Habs to win.

As an American, I want all those Montreal assholes to go fuck themselves.
Posted by: Unmutual || 04/13/2004 14:11 Comments || Top||

#11  i didnt see florda panther fans throw real rodent on ice. they threw plastic one. red wing fan should make plastic octopus instead to throw on ice since they are not get opurtunity to throw hat very often. hahaha!
Posted by: muck4doo || 04/13/2004 14:16 Comments || Top||

#12  We need Conan O'Brien's Triumph the Insult Comic Rottweiler to return. His first visit didn't make the point strong enough.
"You're in North America; learn the language!"
Poop on Triumph!, Poop On!
Posted by: Anonymous4052 || 04/13/2004 15:21 Comments || Top||

#13  Can't fry a plastic rat muck.
Posted by: Shipman || 04/13/2004 15:46 Comments || Top||

#14  Besides, the octopusses are already dead. It's not like they're being hunted down and slaughtered just for a Red Wings game.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 04/13/2004 15:51 Comments || Top||

#15  FUCK canada.... HOME OF COWARDS! canada is the asshole of North America.
Posted by: Halfass Pete || 04/13/2004 15:52 Comments || Top||

#16  #15 That makes me feel so warm inside. LOL! Actually, I just found out through Little Green Footballs that there are quite a few of us in Canada that share the same sentiment as Rantburgers (in many cases, but not all). I am not alone!! HAHAHA! I AM NOT ALONE!!
Posted by: Rafael || 04/13/2004 16:35 Comments || Top||

#17  Rafael - I'm sure it was a small minority. HAP speaks for no-one but himself here. You're already aware of most everyone's concerns re: recent actions by others in the Great White North. I just hope things change for the better there
Posted by: Frank G || 04/13/2004 16:41 Comments || Top||

#18  shipman your miss the point that throwing dead animal on ice does not make sense and set bad example for other teams! go to other team home games and your not see dead sharks thrown on ice in san jose or dead bear thrown on ice in boston or dead cayotee in phonix or dead cunucks thrown on ice in vancouver. and also the octupus thing is outdated cuz it supposed to simbolize eight victory need for stanley cup back in the old day and now team need 16 wins for championship.
Posted by: muck4doo || 04/13/2004 16:54 Comments || Top||

#19  To me it reads like HAP is into anal sex in a big way. Read it again.
Posted by: Don || 04/13/2004 16:56 Comments || Top||

#20  mucky why you not like eagles fans, huh? i understand they not eat tofu, but wtf?
Posted by: Dave D. || 04/13/2004 16:56 Comments || Top||

#21  Who cares? Hockey's not a game, anyway, more of a semi-controlled riot.
Posted by: mojo || 04/13/2004 17:16 Comments || Top||

#22  hockey is a game
that does not need be put down
dont make fun of it.

eagle are a team
have fan behave badly cuz
they cant win big one

sorry im learn hiaku at another blog right now nad getting practice.
Posted by: muck4doo || 04/13/2004 17:33 Comments || Top||

#23  "eagle are a team
have fan behave badly cuz
they cant win big one"


Yeah, I admit it: the truth hurts.
Posted by: Dave D. || 04/13/2004 17:59 Comments || Top||

#24  Besides, the octopusses are already dead. It's not like they're being hunted down and slaughtered just for a Red Wings game.

Nashville counters by throwing catfish onto the ice! And we do, in fact hunt for(or fish for) them specifically for the ceremonial chucking. Lazy Dead Things fans!

I'm going to the game in a few minutes myself. Didn't have time away from work to fish one out of the backyard pond though.
Posted by: Kentar || 04/13/2004 18:10 Comments || Top||

#25  Youse Americanes! Youse are so sensateev! Ze raison ve booze ze antems is zat we are not yet droonk enouff to pazz out, and when ze antems plays, it means ve haves to poot out our zigarettes! Zee, eet is so simplisme!
Posted by: Pierre Le Douchebag || 04/13/2004 18:32 Comments || Top||

#26  Muck4doo--Phoenix fans don't get worked up like a lot of other places for three reasons:
1) Too damn hot, and getting worked up ain't worth it,
2) Like Charles Barkley said back in the 90's when asked why the Phoenix fans didn't riot when apparently they did in Houston, "That's 'cause we're civilized."
but major reason is
3) Most of our teams suck....what's the point? ;)
Posted by: Desert Blondie || 04/13/2004 20:46 Comments || Top||

#27  Heh, MTL just lost in two overtimes. Haaahahahaha.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 04/13/2004 22:55 Comments || Top||

#28  Question. Imagine Quebec goes independant and some of the provinces start looking at the US as an option. Do the rantburgers think provinces could/should become States on a one-to-one basis or would it make more sense to group the Atlantic provinces together into a state.

And before we get all jingoistic imagine what this would do to Americas political balance. Although the plains provinces might go Republican the rest would certainly lean towards the Democrats. Potentially that could mean a lot of new Democratic Senators.
Posted by: ruprecht || 04/13/2004 23:35 Comments || Top||

#29  Saw something a few years ago about the maritime provinces which, the article indicated, are being abandoned by the populace for jobs further west. The provinces are so poor they fall below the economic levels of the worst parts of the USA, and we couldn't afford to take them on!
Posted by: OldeForce || 04/13/2004 23:58 Comments || Top||

#30  kentar i watch the game yestrday and not see any dead catfish throw on ice but it good to see red wing get toasted. also good to see canadiens lose.
Posted by: muck4doo || 04/14/2004 9:23 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
U.S. stalls on ratifying sea pact
Posted by: JerseyMike || 04/13/2004 16:12 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Excellent. RINO's like Dick Lugar have been trying to hand away our rights for years. It's great that GWB is finally listening to reason. One of the big problems with the so-called Law of the Sea is that it commits us to sharing the benefits of any deep sea initiatives we undertake in the future. My view on this - there is no way any American company is going to undertake such massive project in order to give most of it away to other countries. It's just not going to happen. This way, we get to do what we want beyond the 200 nm economic zone limits - and any country that objects does have the right to fight us on it - which they would anyway, if they were militarily stronger.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 04/13/2004 16:37 Comments || Top||

#2  If the U.S. does not approve the treaty, "we would forfeit our seat at the table of institutions that will make decisions about the use of the oceans, and we would increase the chance that such decisions would be contrary to our interests," Lugar said then.

But if we don't sign on, we're not bound by the treaty, and can tell the UN Ocean Owners Association to go pound sea-salt up their oubiettes.
Posted by: mojo || 04/13/2004 17:13 Comments || Top||

#3  "For the treaty's supporters, failure to ratify it would mean the U.S. is turning its back on international cooperation.
Harry Scheiber, co-director of the Law of the Sea Institute at the University of California, Berkeley, said the treaty offers a process to prevent conflicts over fishing, ocean transit and military activity on the high seas.
Walking away from the treaty would be "a gratuitous insult" to U.S. allies and trading partners, Scheiber said, rejecting "a global effort of two decades." "


sounds like Kyoto's little brother - hamstringing the US. If Berkley's for it, that's reason enough to pass on it :-)
Posted by: Frank G || 04/13/2004 18:01 Comments || Top||

#4  I would like to know how this Law of the Sea treaty will impact the Chinese. They are getting frisky unilaterally around the Spratley Islands. Also what about the Straits of Mallucca and other choke points? I need to look into the language of the treaty first before condemn it. But I get wary of all this "feel good" handwavy language without hard facts. Our navy, for example needs to be unhindered on the open seas. This does smell like an underwater rat like Kyoto, at first glance.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 04/13/2004 19:04 Comments || Top||

#5  Is this the same Law of the Sea treaty that everyone was so hot about back in the '70s when it looked like the rapacious Yankee capitalists were going to use the Glomar Explorer to go around hoovering up magnesium nodules *cough* russki subs * cough* off the bottom of the deep sea floor?

Gosh, that treaty has only been under consideration for a quarter of a century. I'm not sure we should be rushing into it so quickly.
Posted by: SteveS || 04/13/2004 19:23 Comments || Top||

#6  First of all, who has the authority to GIVE THE UNITED NATIONS sole possession of the oceans of the world? That's what the "Law of the Sea" treaty effectively does. Anything which enhances or expands the control (read "greed") of the United Nations over ANYTHING is, by default, bad for everyone except the United Nations. Frankly, I'm beginning to be even more convinced that the United Nations is an institution that outlived its usefulness about fifteen minutes after it was created, and is a waste of time, effort, manpower, and space. I still think the best way to deal with the United Nations is to exile every single UN employee to the Island of Ascension, blow up the harbor and the airfield, and dare anyone to sail within 500 miles of it.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/13/2004 20:04 Comments || Top||

#7  From the perspective of the "tragedy of commons" divying up right to the ocean is not a completely bad idea. Also one way to combat global poverty is to issues titles to "unowned" property. In South America, for instance, there are poor people who would be able to reap financial benefits from selling land they own, but they can't because the government has never issued titles to the land so the peasants are stuck squatting on the same valuable land that their ancestors have been squatting on for generations. And I mean squat because the community has no sewage or services and will never be developed because the land has no ownership or "value" without a title.

That said, only a bonehead would think that the UN is a body capable of administering anything larger than a five acre square of land. Talk about their tragedy of commons, they raided their own cafeteria as if they were a Germanic Tribe.
Posted by: Super Hose || 04/13/2004 21:12 Comments || Top||


Reno: We Knew Terrorism Was a Threat
The Clinton administration was not ignorant to the terrorist threat when Bill Clinton took office in 1992 but "inherited" problems such as a lack of funding and resources, which plagued efforts to go after some threats, Janet Reno testified Tuesday.
And of course Bush (Sr) blocked the funding all thru the Clinton years.....
"We understood from early on in the Clinton administration that terrorism posed a great threat to Americans on American soil," said former President Clinton’s attorney general, who took office in March 1993.
But we chose to do nothing for the 8 clinton years....
The commission blasted the FBI and the Justice Department on Tuesday but Louis Freeh, who was FBI chief from 1993-2001, said the agency suffered from a lack of resources to effectively hunt down terrorists after Usama bin Laden issued several fatwahs in the 1990s telling his followers to kill Americans and launched "acts of war against the United States" when Al Qaeda attacked U.S. soldiers overseas near Yemen and elsewhere. Freeh has said he met with Bush and Vice President Cheney to talk about terrorism within four days of their taking the White House. He said the president took the Al Qaeda threat seriously.
Not during the transistion???
Freeh said a lack of funding and resources contributed to the FBI’s difficulty in fighting terrorism leading up to Sept. 11. The FBI "requested year after year" linguists, particularly experts in Arabic and Farsi in New York City, Freeh said, where many Al Qaeda investigations were housed.
Notice: year after year means under Clinton’s watch...
Freeh said Al Qaeda was very much on the FBI’s radar during his tenure and that there was an Al Qaeda/bin Laden unit set up in FBI headquarters... Freeh said he met once every two weeks with Reno and Clinton national security adviser, Sandy Berger, so it’s not a "fair characterization" that White House national security officials were frustrated at the lack of information sharing from the FBI. Former Bush and Clinton counterterrorism adviser Richard Clarke made that suggestion during his testimony before the panel last week. "I didn’t provide written memos to Sandy Berger or the president or anybody else at the National Security Council," Freeh said. But during meetings with Berger and Reno, he said they "went over every single piece of counterterrorism information. Clarke was never present at these meetings, Freeh said. "Why Sandy Berger didn’t want him there, I don’t know."
The plot sickens....
Reno said that after Ashcroft replaced her as attorney general, she sent him memos saying the government needs to "connect the dots" in regards to terrorism and to deal with it. Reno said she doesn’t recall talking to Ashcroft specifically about Al Qaeda or bin Laden, however.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 04/13/2004 12:41:12 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Oh, come on! Everybody knows Clinton did interns stuff during his years in office! Don't blame him for dropping his pants not doing things to counter terrorism! He did everyonething he could to stop Al-Q! It's all Bush's fault!
Posted by: The Doctor || 04/13/2004 13:14 Comments || Top||

#2  Remember also, that Janet worked away diligently eight years under Hillary's desk... Ooops! I mean Multi-Tasking. Busily covering up the Massacre at Waco. While also turning a murder into a suicide at Ft. Marcy Park. Plus attempting to Prosecute Micro-Soft. Amongst other distractions!
Posted by: Jack Deth || 04/13/2004 13:43 Comments || Top||

#3  Reno: We Knew Terrorism Was a Threat
but thought our resources were better served at ruby ridge and waco.
Posted by: Dan || 04/13/2004 14:20 Comments || Top||

#4  "We understood from early on in the Clinton administration that terrorism posed a great threat to Americans on American soil," said former President Clinton’s attorney general, who took office in March 1993.

"That's why we fried those whackos in Waco!"
Posted by: Tibor || 04/13/2004 14:24 Comments || Top||

#5  klinton also thought it was more important to teach kids how to jackoff, than to combat terrorism.
Posted by: Halfass Pete || 04/13/2004 15:58 Comments || Top||

#6  When the Clinton apologists start to blame Newt Gingrich and the evil Republican Congress for not funding the Clinton anti-terror efforts,just remember,Clinton had TWO years in office w/Demo majorities in BOTH House and Senate.And did nothing.
Posted by: Stephen || 04/13/2004 17:16 Comments || Top||

#7  In re Richard Clarke's attendance at meetings, Janet Reno said:

Why Sandy Berger didn’t want him there, I don’t know

Berger knew what we all know now. Clarke is an annoying little troll, and not sure if he could be trusted. He was probably aware Clarke was into misreading of body language, which could spell trouble. Dr Rice wasn't aware of this personality quirk, being new on the job, and got blindsided. Thus she and the President felt the wrath of Clarke's poison pen.
Posted by: Anonymous4052 || 04/13/2004 17:50 Comments || Top||


Florida Dems Place Ad Calling For a Hit on Rumsfeld, $ For Kerry
via Drudge - they’ve lost their minds
CAMPAIGN RAGE: FLORIDA DEMOCRATS PLACE NEWSPAPER AD CALLING FOR RUMSFELD HIT; FUNDRAISING FOR KERRY

Campaign 2004 turns extreme in Florida with the placement of a newspaper ad calling for physical retribution against Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld!

"We should put this S.O.B. up against a wall and say ’This is one of our bad days,’ and pull the trigger," the ad reads.

The call-to-arms fundraising ad, placed by the St. Petersburg Democratic Club in the current issue of the GABBER, a local St. Petersburg paper, asks readers to make an urgent donation to the John Kerry campaign.

Club Vice President Edna McCall told the DRUDGE REPORT Tuesday morning: "We want to get our country back. In Iraq, we’re in deep trouble. If we don’t try to get this situation cleared up, we are finished."

When asked if the ad was a challenge to inflict violence on Rumsfeld, McCall explained: "’Pull the trigger’ means let Rumsfeld know where we stand, not to shoot him!"

"We are getting raped, and they are planning to steal the election again."

McCall said her club is in direct contact with John Kerry campaign.
"We’re all working together."
The publisher of the GABBER says running the ad with the passage "pull the trigger" was a mistake that "slipped through" during the editing of this week’s edition.

Developing...
Posted by: Frank G || 04/13/2004 12:27:32 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Isn't it against the law to threaten a gov offical like that?
Posted by: Yosemite Sam || 04/13/2004 12:33 Comments || Top||

#2  I have blogged this vile piece of crap.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 04/13/2004 12:34 Comments || Top||

#3  Dear God... It's as if we're going through the entire, sordid, hateful mess of the Sixties all over again, but compressed into just a few short months.

What's next-- a modern-day "Days of Rage" riot in D.C. next weekend? Bombings by radical groups? This is insane, it is evil, and one group and one group ONLY is responsible for it: the Democratic Party.
Posted by: Dave D. || 04/13/2004 12:36 Comments || Top||

#4  Man, these Kerry supporters are classy people, eh? Classy people!
Posted by: Mike || 04/13/2004 12:36 Comments || Top||

#5  I sure hope these hosers don't get away with that bs. Putting someone up against a wall and pulling a trigger means exactly what it says. Somebody really needs to be in jail for that crap.
Posted by: Atropanthe || 04/13/2004 12:43 Comments || Top||

#6  oh my god! what happened to the good ole american spirit of good sport? these dems are desperate. if true there should be reprecussions, at the very least civil.
these guys would've been shot for sedition during WWI and WWII.
so what happens when the dems loose florida again?
Posted by: Dan || 04/13/2004 12:55 Comments || Top||

#7  McCall said her club is in direct contact with John Kerry campaign.
"We’re all working together."

is this the type of person we want to be pres?

Posted by: Dan || 04/13/2004 12:57 Comments || Top||

#8  Here is the text of the e-mail I just sent to the Kerry campaign:

I have just become aware that the St. Petersburg Democratic Club has placed a particularly revolting newspaper ad. The Club refers favorably to the Ba'athist and al-Qaida terrorists who are even now fighting against our troops in Iraq, and apparently calls for the assasination of Defense Secretary Rumsfeld--then solicits campaign contributions on behalf of Senator Kerry!

You may view a scanned image of the ad here: http://www.drudgereport.com/stp.gif

I should hope that Senator Kerry will quickly, and very publicly, denounce this misguided publication. One can certainly legitimately dissent from our current foreign policy without openly supporting our terrorist enemies or inciting violence against officers of the government.


Let's see if he does the right thing.
Posted by: Mike || 04/13/2004 12:57 Comments || Top||

#9  "We are getting raped, and they are planning to steal the election again."

They are going to loose Florida, they are already setting themselves up for it. Hopefully the hot air from their monumental whining won't melt the polar ice caps and send Florida beneath the waves to keep Atlantis company.
Posted by: Atropanthe || 04/13/2004 13:00 Comments || Top||

#10  Just how the hell does "put him against the wall and pull the trigger" not mean "shoot him"?

Would a ranking of the likelihood of election-related violence in the US fit into the WOT Futures? I think we just passed the 80% likely mark...
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 04/13/2004 13:03 Comments || Top||

#11  It seems that the Left reaches a new low with each passing day--what can we expect on Election Day? Nuclear Armageddon because it's the only thing that can adequately express their Bush hate?
The Florida Dims should give al-Sadr (a/k/a "Tater") a call: he and his Mahdi Army have the same goals that our native Dim idiotarians do.
Posted by: Jen || 04/13/2004 13:07 Comments || Top||

#12  I said something in a comment here on RB last weekend about the Dems having made a cynical, calculated decision to harness the lunatic energy of the anti-war foamers and droolers on the extreme Left. And I said the Democrats, having unleashed this mad beast, won't be able to stop it.

They're riding a tiger, and cannot get off for fear of being mauled.

Where are these people taking us? Where does this all end, with a civil war?
Posted by: Dave D. || 04/13/2004 13:16 Comments || Top||

#13  The publisher of the GABBER says running the ad with the passage "pull the trigger" was a mistake that "slipped through"....
I hope that the publisher and the author of this vile crap get a five year vacation in Florence, Colorado to rethink this "mistake". Say hello to Ramzi Yousef while you're there a$$holes.
Posted by: GK || 04/13/2004 13:40 Comments || Top||

#14  Is anyone else flashing on the image of Maj. 'King' Kong Bronco-riding a dropped nuclear bomb and whooping his Stetson? Just before it EXPLODES?!!! 'Slipped through', My A$$!!! Someone needs to go to prison over this!
Posted by: Jack Deth || 04/13/2004 13:51 Comments || Top||

#15  And these people have the nerve to call us fascists?
Posted by: Raj || 04/13/2004 14:12 Comments || Top||

#16  Raj -- it's called projection.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 04/13/2004 14:15 Comments || Top||

#17  Patriates? Time to ex- 'em...
Posted by: mojo || 04/13/2004 14:19 Comments || Top||

#18  Isn't this , like, um, hate speech? I thought the Dimocrats were the party of compassion and gun control.
Posted by: Denny || 04/13/2004 14:28 Comments || Top||

#19  Does Alec Baldwin live in St Petersburg, Fl now?
Posted by: Anonymous4052 || 04/13/2004 14:42 Comments || Top||

#20  Hah - these fools have messed with the wrong man! Threaten Rumsfeld will they? Their suffering shall be the stuff of legend!

BUAHAHAHAHA!
Posted by: Anonymous4143 || 04/13/2004 14:50 Comments || Top||

#21  If they think that they are going to pick on Rummy, this is stupid. He has lots of loyal friends. Gen Mattis would be the perfect one to pay a personal visit to this Edna McCall woman when he returns from Iraq, and explain that in a free country we do not make personal threats against public officials. This is beyond political.
Posted by: Anonymous4052 || 04/13/2004 14:53 Comments || Top||

#22  None of the leading news orgs are reporting this - abc, nbc, cbs, fox, cnn.

What do you make of that?
Posted by: Yosemite Sam || 04/13/2004 15:14 Comments || Top||

#23  Answer to Yosemite Sam - They are to busy lamenting the delay in "American Idol" caused by the President's news conference.
Posted by: Anonymous4052 || 04/13/2004 15:37 Comments || Top||

#24  They're riding a tiger, and cannot get off for fear of being mauled

Thinking Dave D. got it down cold.
Posted by: Shipman || 04/13/2004 15:49 Comments || Top||

#25  McCall better watch it....Rummy might whip out some of his Drunken Temple Boxing ™ technique and put a real hurtin' on.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 04/13/2004 16:08 Comments || Top||

#26  I think Keneddy's the Drunken Master, not Rummy.

(Of course, Kennedy's favorite combat move is the "get into my car" attack.)
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 04/13/2004 16:11 Comments || Top||

#27  RC: Good point! In that case, I hope he opts for Fire Palm Fist™ style.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 04/13/2004 16:47 Comments || Top||

#28  I wonder if Edna McCall will enjoy her cavity search half as much as she enjoys the ad.

McCall said her club is in direct contact with John Kerry campaign.
"We’re all working together."


This will be the Summer of My Winter Soldier, I think.
Posted by: eLarson || 04/13/2004 17:07 Comments || Top||

#29  RC: The "get into my car" attack is especially deadly when combined with the "glass half empty" technique. Rumor has it that Ted's been working on a double-fisted variation of that.
Posted by: BH || 04/13/2004 17:09 Comments || Top||

#30  Hey, aren't these the same folks who think Bush and Ashcroft are the Nazis?
Posted by: tu3031 || 04/13/2004 18:47 Comments || Top||

#31  YS, Fox News just aired it about an hour ago here (approximately 4pm PST). Somehow I doubt the other major news orgs will even give this notice you see its not in line with their reality.
Posted by: Valentine || 04/13/2004 20:02 Comments || Top||

#32  Great....all these sixties burnouts are having flashbacks along with their hot flashes. Give ol' Edna (no wonder she's pissed.....I would be too if my parents named me Edna) a prozac with a premarin chaser.
Posted by: Desert Blondie || 04/13/2004 20:40 Comments || Top||

#33  Damnit, I hope this doesn't fall off the radar. Just think if anyone, ANYONE, published the same line about lining Kerry, Big Head Ted, or any other dumbocrat for that matter, against the wall and pulling the trigger.

I hope Fox runs this 24/7 until the other news outlets have to report it. Of course, if someone was thrown in jail for this crap then it would get a bit of notice, lol.
Posted by: Atropanthe || 04/13/2004 20:44 Comments || Top||


Floor statement: ’A house divided cannot stand’
By Sen. Zell Miller, Democrat, Ga.
http://miller.senate.gov/index.htm
Remarks as delivered on the Senate floor on March 30.
After watching the harsh acrimony generated by the September 11 Commission – which, let me say at the outset, is made up of good and able members – I’ve come to seriously question this panel’s usefulness. I believe it will ultimately play a role in doing great harm to this country, for its unintended consequences, I fear, will be to energize our enemies and demoralize our troops.

After being drowned in a tidal wave of all who didn’t do enough before 9/11, I have come to believe that the Commission should issue a report that says: “No one did enough in the past. No one did near enough.” Then thank everyone for serving, send them home and let’s get on with the job of protecting this country in the future. Tragically, these hearings have proved to be a very divisive diversion for this country. Tragically, they have devoured valuable time, looking backwards when we should be looking forward.

Can you imagine handling the attack on Pearl Harbor this way? Can you imagine Congress, the media and the public standing for this kind of political gamesmanship and finger pointing after that “day of infamy” in 1941? Some partisans tried that ploy, but they were soon quieted by the patriots who understood how important it was to get on with the war and take the battle to America’s enemies, and not dwell on what FDR knew when. You see, back then the highest priority was to win a war, not win an election. That’s what made them “The Greatest Generation.”

I realize that many well-meaning Americans see the hearings as “democracy in action.” Years ago, when I was teaching political science, I probably would have had my class watching it live on television and using that very phrase with them. There are also the not-so-well-meaning political operatives who see these hearings as an opportunity to “score cheap points.” Then, there are the Media Meddlers who see this as “great theater” that can be played out on the evening news and on endless talk shows for a week or more.

Congressional hearings have long been one of Washington’s most entertaining pastimes. Joe McCarthy. Watergate. Iran Contra. They all kept us glued to the TV, and made for conversation around the water coolers and arguments over a beer at the corner pub. A Congressional hearing in Washington, D.C. is the ultimate aphrodisiac for political groupies and partisan punks. But, it’s not the groupies, punks and television-sotted American public that I’m worried about. This latter crowd can get excited and divided over just about anything. Whether it’s some off-key wanna-be dreaming of being the American Idol, or what brainless bimbo The Bachelor or Average Joe will choose or who will Donald Trump fire next week.

No, it is the real enemies of America that I’m concerned about. These evil killers who right now, right now are gleefully watching the shrill partisan finger pointing of these hearings and grinning like a mule eating briars. They see this as a major split within the Great Satan America. They see anger, they see division, instability, bickering, peevishness and dissension. They see the President of the United States hammered unmercifully. They see all this and they are greatly, greatly encouraged.

We should not be doing anything to encourage our enemies in this battle between good and evil. Yet, these hearings, in my opinion, are doing just that. We are playing with fire. We’re playing directly into the hands of our enemy by allowing these hearings to become the great divider they have become. Dick Clarke’s book and its release coinciding with these hearings have done this country a tremendous disservice, and someday we will reap its whirlwind. Long ago, Sir Walter Scott observed that revenge is “the sweetest morsel that ever was cooked in hell.” The vindictive Clarke has now had his revenge, but what kind of hell has he, his CBS publisher and his axe-to-grind advocates unleashed?

These hearings, coming on the heels of the election the terrorists influenced in Spain, bolster and energize our evil enemies as they have not been energized since 9/11. Chances are very good that these evil enemies of America will attempt to influence our 2004 election in a similar dramatic way as they did Spain’s. And to think that could never be in this country is to stick your head in the sand. That is why the sooner we stop this endless bickering over the past and join together to prepare for the future, the better off this country will be. There are some things - whether this city believes it or not - that are just more important than political campaigns. The recent past is so ripe for political second-guessing “gotcha” and Monday morning quarter-backing. And it is so tempting in an election year. We should not allow ourselves to indulge that temptation. We should put our country first. Every administration from Jimmy Carter to George W. Bush bears some of the blame. Dick Clarke bears a big heap of it because it was he who was in the catbird’s seat to do something about it for more than a decade. Tragically, it was the decade in which we did the least. We did nothing after terrorists attacked the World Trade Center in 1993, killing six and injuring more than 1,000 Americans. We did nothing in 1996 when sixteen U.S. servicemen were killed in the bombing of the Khobar Towers. When our embassies were attacked in 1998, killing 263 people, our only response was to fire a few missiles on an empty tent.

Is it any wonder? Is it any wonder that after that decade of weak-willed responses to that murderous terror, our enemies thought we would never fight back? In the 1990’s is when Dick Clarke should have resigned. In the 1990’s is when he should have apologized. That is when he should have written his book. That is, if he really had America’s best interest at heart.

Some will say, “We owe it to the families” to get more information about what happened in the past and I can understand that. But no amount of finger-pointing will bring our victims back. So, now we owe it to future families and all of America now in jeopardy not to encourage more terrorists, resulting in even more grieving families, perhaps many more over the ones of 9/11.

It’s obvious to me that this country is rapidly dividing itself into two camps: the wimps and the warriors. The ones who want to argue and assess and appease, and the ones who want to carry this fight to our enemies and kill him them before they kill us. And, in case you haven’t figured it out, I proudly belong to the latter. This is a time like no other in the history of this country, and this country is being crippled with petty partisan politics of the worst possible kind. In time of war, it is not just unpatriotic; it is stupid, and it is criminal.

So, I pray that all this time, all this energy, all this talk and all this attention could be focused on the future instead of the past. I pray we would stop pointing fingers, assigning blame and wringing our hands about what happened on that day David McCullogh has called “the worst day in our history” more than two years ago. And instead, pour all of our energy into how we can kill these terrorists before they kill us - again. For make no mistake about it. They watch these hearings. They are scheming and smiling about the distraction and the divisiveness they see in America. And while they may not know who said it years ago in America, they know instinctively that a house divided cannot stand.

There is one other group that we should remember is listening to all of this - our troops. I was in Iraq in January and one day when I was meeting with the 1st Armored Division, a unit with a proud history known as Old Ironsides, we were discussing troop morale, and the Commanding General said it was top notch. And I turned to the Division’s Sergeant Major, the top enlisted man in the division, a big, burly, 6-foot-3, 240 pound African American and I said, “That’s good, but how do you sustain that kind of morale?” Without hesitation he narrowed his eyes, and he looked at me and said “The morale will stay high just as long as these troops know the people back home support us.”

Just as long as the people back home support us. What kind of message are these hearings and the outrageously political speeches on the floor of the Senate yesterday sending to those marvelous young Americans in the uniform of our country? I say Unite America! Before it is too late! Put aside these petty partisan differences when it comes to the protection of our people. Argue and argue and argue and debate and debate and debate over all the other things – jobs and education and the deficit and the environment – but please, please do not use the lives of Americans and the security of this country as a cheap-shot political talking point.
Mr. Miller is a Democratic senator from Georgia and the author of "A National Party No More: The Conscience of a Conservative Democrat," published last month by Stroud & Hall.
Reading this, I'm reminded that Cicero was killed. And Seneca was killed...
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 04/13/2004 3:00:03 AM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Now this is a Democrat I could vote for.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 04/13/2004 12:08 Comments || Top||

#2  Why isn't this man running for President? I don't care which party. This is a man I could vote for, no matter what party - or no party - he belongs to. This man is a PATRIOT first, last, and always. God bless Zell Miller. If only we had just ten more like him in Washington!
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/13/2004 12:22 Comments || Top||

#3  If Zell Miller were a typical Democrat--hell, even if only half the Democrats had his integrity--I wouldn't have quit the party.

"It’s obvious to me that this country is rapidly dividing itself into two camps: the wimps and the warriors. The ones who want to argue and assess and appease, and the ones who want to carry this fight to our enemies and kill him them before they kill us. And, in case you haven’t figured it out, I proudly belong to the latter. This is a time like no other in the history of this country, and this country is being crippled with petty partisan politics of the worst possible kind. In time of war, it is not just unpatriotic; it is stupid, and it is criminal."

That's the best summation I've seen anywhere.
Posted by: Dave D. || 04/13/2004 12:29 Comments || Top||

#4  now here is one dem who gets it. i am also tired of the 9-11 commission and the partisan bickering. We Are All To Blame and should accept this.

Actually I firmly believe we as a nation were lucky we were hit on 9-11 the way we were. It was not with WMD and it brought home that we have enemies. No matter what happend in the 90's or after 9-11 we will be hit again. Now is the time to take the fight to our enemies , namely iran, now before this war does go nuclear. I do not believe we will fire first in a nuclear exchange , so it will be our troops or our cities first.
Posted by: Dan || 04/13/2004 12:31 Comments || Top||

#5  Now THAT'S the loyal opposition that I remember!

Somebody take this text, wrap it around a steel bar with an extra layer of barbed wire added for effect, and use it to beat the snot out of every single one of the traitor partisan hacks in Congress 'till their wasted brains come oozing out of their ears!
Posted by: Misha I || 04/13/2004 14:35 Comments || Top||

#6  Misha I: They got brains?
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 04/13/2004 18:56 Comments || Top||

#7  It's a pity that Sen Miller is retiring. The Georgia democrats brought him out of retirement to fill the Senate seat. Hopefully President Bush can persuade him to stay in Washington. The country needs men like him. His book, "Corps Values: Everything You Need to Know I Learned in the Marines" says just about everything you need to know about him.
Posted by: RWV || 04/14/2004 0:15 Comments || Top||


John Kerry: "A Strategy for Iraq"
.... The United States can bolster [U.N. representative Lakhdar] Brahimi’s limited leverage by saying in advance that we will support any plan he proposes that gains the support of Iraqi leaders. Moving forward, the administration must make the United Nations a full partner responsible for developing Iraq’s transition to a new constitution and government. We also need to renew our effort to attract international support in the form of boots on the ground to create a climate of security in Iraq. We need more troops and more people who can train Iraqi troops and assist Iraqi police.

We should urge NATO to create a new out-of-area operation for Iraq under the lead of a U.S. commander. This would help us obtain more troops from major powers. The events of the past week will make foreign governments extremely reluctant to put their citizens at risk. That is why international acceptance of responsibility for stabilizing Iraq must be matched by international authority for managing the remainder of the Iraqi transition.

The United Nations, not the United States, should be the primary civilian partner in working with Iraqi leaders to hold elections, restore government services, rebuild the economy, and re-create a sense of hope and optimism among the Iraqi people. The primary responsibility for security must remain with the U.S. military, preferably helped by NATO until we have an Iraqi security force fully prepared to take responsibility. ...
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 04/13/2004 8:31:09 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Re-create a sense of hope and optimism among the Iraqi people? The UN?

There should have been a Coffee Alert with that one!
Posted by: eLarson || 04/13/2004 10:58 Comments || Top||

#2  He has nothing to offer other than "internationalizing" the situation. Friggin worthless tripe served up as a "great statesman". Wotta EU/UN maroon
Posted by: Frank G || 04/13/2004 11:02 Comments || Top||

#3  (1) So the future of Iraq would depend on the response Kerry gets from the UN and NATO? Which of our NATO allies is suddenly going to develop an enthusiasm for sending troops to Iraq?

(2) Do the Iraqis get a say in this? Suppose they don't want to be "partners" with the UN, given the wonderful success of the UN's oil-for-bribes program?
Posted by: Matt || 04/13/2004 11:12 Comments || Top||

#4  "...sense of hope and optimism among the Iraqi people..."

Hmmm. P'raps we should ask the people of Kosovo about the kind of "hope and optimism" they have after what, six years of U.N. administration?

Last I checked, the U.N. hadn't even restored electrical service yet.

Someone should ask John Kerry to be specific about how he's going to secure all this wonderful "international cooperation" he likes to talk about. What price will he make America pay in exchange for that "cooperation"?
Posted by: Dave D. || 04/13/2004 11:12 Comments || Top||

#5  This just in:

UN Secretary Gen. Coffee_At_One applauds the Skeery Plan "The Oil for Food program must be reestablished for the good of the Iraqi people under the governance of the UN"
Posted by: TomAnon || 04/13/2004 11:19 Comments || Top||

#6  The fact that John F'himself Kerry trusts in the UN is reason enough, by itself, not to vote for him. Only idiots, and men without vision or personal courage, like Kerry, trust in the UN. Kerry's pseudo-chic "internationalism" is particularly disgusting. Through it he seeks to legitimize himself. (He is so . . . how you say . . . French! ) Anyway, if Iraq is "Bush's Vietnam," why is Kerry interested in making it his? Oh, that's right, the god-almighty UN would make all the difference. At the very mention of the UN, all of the Isalmic terrorists and factions put down their weapons and either start crying with relief like babies, or just stand in awe. Some of them even say they're sorry. It's a beautiful sight to behold, I tell you.
Posted by: ex-lib || 04/13/2004 12:04 Comments || Top||

#7  They blew up the UN in Iraq!

Who blew up the UN in Iraq?

The.....the....Jihadies, Baathist, Sunnies, sadrs, Ansars, AQ, martrys brigades, bloody back whippers.

What say you JK? Are you going to war with these guys while wearing a blue cap? American troops wearing a blue cap.

Posted by: Lucky || 04/13/2004 12:21 Comments || Top||

#8  Forget the facts about Kerry's qualifications for CIC- his love of the French, his turnong his back on his country flag and fellow vets in 1971, all of the ither things thgat make you puke- I'm going to vote for Bush for another reason in addition to those- just to piss of the rest of the world's leftists, the Flag booers in Canada, the Turban heads in the Middle East, the Euro Wienies, the hollwyood left, the pro Hamas anti Israeli demonstartors in our country in San Francisso, and the biased liberal media. Yep those are some reasons I'm voting for Bush.
Posted by: Bill Nelson || 04/13/2004 12:44 Comments || Top||

#9  FUCK john kerry..... FUCK THE u.n..... FUCK europe. FUCK 'EM ALL
Posted by: Halfass Pete || 04/13/2004 16:15 Comments || Top||

#10  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: mhw TROLL || 04/13/2004 21:43 Comments || Top||

#11  Kerry supporters should be glad Kerry wrote this instead of making this one of his speeches -- it would have sounded even more like a pompous nothingburger
Posted by: mhw || 04/13/2004 21:43 Comments || Top||


Newly crowned Miss USA plans to defend Iraq invasion
Hat tip: InstaPundit. Edited for brevity.
Well this isn’t something you see everyday. Shandi Finnessey, crowned Miss USA last night, told Reuters she would use her position to help explain America’s involvement in Iraq. "What needed to be done had to be done," she said. The Associated Press chose not to report Shandi’s plans with her position and nearly every other media outlet is ignoring it.
Posted by: Dar || 04/13/2004 10:24:33 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  AP-A fast-food loving beauty queen from Missouri who has two master's degrees and once wrestled a greased pig in a mud pit was crowned Miss USA 2004
AP doesn't want to offend the followers of al-Sadr with a women who is highly educated, handled pigs, and wants to fight them too. It goes against everything they believe.
Posted by: Anonymous4052 || 04/13/2004 12:22 Comments || Top||

#2  A fast-food loving beauty queen from Missouri who has two master's degrees and once wrestled a greased pig in a mud pit

Fred, if there ever was a need for a picture.....
Posted by: Steve || 04/13/2004 13:01 Comments || Top||

#3  AP-A fast-food loving beauty queen from Missouri who has two master's degrees and once wrestled a greased pig in a mud pit was crowned Miss USA 2004

I'm in love!!!!!
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/13/2004 13:17 Comments || Top||

#4  http://www.missmissouri.org/MissMOs/02shandi/shandi.htm
Pretty Lady
Posted by: Anonymous4052 || 04/13/2004 13:24 Comments || Top||

#5  OP, hold onto yourself:

I love it! Not only a Miss USA who didn't babble about "whirled peas" but who backed her country and her President.
What a patriot!
Posted by: Jen || 04/13/2004 13:25 Comments || Top||

#6  Winner of the first annual Anti-Idiotarian Beauty Pageant.

Schwing!
Posted by: Unmutual || 04/13/2004 14:45 Comments || Top||

#7  she would use her position to help explain America’s involvement in Iraq

Crown forfeiture in 5, 4, 3, 2...
Posted by: Rafael || 04/13/2004 17:30 Comments || Top||


Clinton Memoir May Suck Air Out Of Kerry Campaign
EFL:
As Bill Clinton seeks to finish his memoirs, leading Democrats are voicing concern that the book could overshadow Senator John Kerry's presidential campaign, diverting attention to Mr. Clinton's outsize legacy of scandal and supposed achievement.
Many Democrats said they wanted the book published as far as possible before the election and, certainly, before the Democratic National Convention in late July. They fear that the book will embolden Mr. Clinton's foes to turn out and vote for President Bush.
Bwahahaha!

Mr. Clinton, for his part, has increased the nervous speculation about the book in Democratic circles by making a habit of picking up the phone to regale friends with long passages and even chapters of his prose. Mixing boyish enthusiasm with a craving for approval, people who have received the calls said, he has proudly narrated excerpts about everything from college antics with his pals at Georgetown to his 1995 standoff with Republicans that led to a government shutdown. Some of Mr. Clinton's friends say he should hurry up.
"It'll get a lot of air space and I think it's kind of imperative that happen in front of the convention," said John D. Podesta, a chief of staff in Mr. Clinton's White House. That way, he said, "Kerry's benefited by having a clear shot, clear air space, from the convention through November." A close associate of Mr. Kerry, offering a personal opinion, said: "If it comes out any time before the election, it's not particularly good for us because he takes up a lot of oxygen. It's less that he's a negative and more that he'll be out on his book tour and he'll be the story of the week rather than John Kerry."
That's the plan, if you believe in the theory that Hillbillary has to keep a Democrat from winning in 2004 so she/he can run in 2008.

"I wouldn't bet on it coming out during the campaign," said Dick Morris, who worked as Mr. Clinton's chief campaign strategist. "He takes a long time to finish things and he's never happy, and he fills up the wastebasket." "What I really believe is if he were to come out with it during the campaign it would be intended as a way of undercutting Kerry," he added. "It would turn the whole election into a debate about Clinton rather than Kerry."
Somewhere, Karl Rove is having a good laugh.

But some party leaders and Kerry campaign officials argue that publication in the spring could, in the words of one, help in "pumping up the base." If Mr. Clinton gets it out in time, party officials said, they hoped to hold fund-raising events at stops on his book tour.
I'm sure he will, for the Clinton library and massage parlor.

"The notion that once upon a time there was a president who actually thought about how you strengthen the middle class and did a good job steering the economy is not a bad thing," Mr. Podesta said. "It's a good thing."
Unfortunately for you, that President was Ronald Reagan.
Posted by: Steve || 04/13/2004 9:06:55 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Mixing boyish enthusiasm with a craving for approval,..."

That about sums up Bill Clinton: an insecure adolescent. I can't believe I voted for that jerk.
Posted by: Dave D. || 04/13/2004 10:27 Comments || Top||

#2  they're right about it sucking the air out - Clinton's tiome will be a masterpiece of revisionist history, rationalization for his appetites, demonization of anyone who disagreed with him and his shrew co-president alibi wife
Posted by: Frank G || 04/13/2004 10:27 Comments || Top||

#3  Clinton Memoir May Suck Air Out Of Kerry Campaign

Kinda like when that intern sucked.......oh, never mind.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 04/13/2004 10:49 Comments || Top||

#4  Clinton's outsize legacy of scandal and achievement
What achievements? The only things I can think of are those he took credit for that were passed by a Republican Congress (like welfare reform), and a few executive orders. Not much for 8 years.
Posted by: Spot || 04/13/2004 11:03 Comments || Top||

#5  well, like the peace in Rwanda and the Oslo accords and the short Balkan commitment and the NK nuke disarmament and Waco and......
Posted by: Frank G || 04/13/2004 11:05 Comments || Top||

#6  Fuck@#g Clinton. I'm sure there will be a statement in his book that will go something like this.

"Did I make mistakes? Yes I made a few but history will, no doubt, find that when I did err it was for all the common people and their children. That one man can do so much while enduring the slurs and hatred of rich people. People who don't earn their money but marry it. People who don't play by the rules like the rest of us. Yes, I made mistakes but I think the American people understand that their leaders and those like myself who rule, are really just doing our best to serve. I plead guilty to that."

Three cheers! Hip hip....

BTW. Someone once said the secret to Clinton success wasn't what he was able to achieve but what he was unable to achieve.
Posted by: Lucky || 04/13/2004 11:34 Comments || Top||

#7  Oh pleeze o pleeze o pleeze

PLEEZE let billy-boy upstage the MASS wannabe!!!

Posted by: Hopeful and no longer Dem || 04/13/2004 12:29 Comments || Top||

#8  Clinton was a scoundrel who has charisma, and an annoying wife. Kerry is a scoundrel with no charisma and an annoying wife. At least Clinton has charisma. Kerry hates Clinton's charisma. And Kerry may be forced to have Clinton's annnoying wife as VP. Then if Kerry wins, he will have to be around Clinton for 4 years (remember 2 for 1). Forget it Kerry. Give it up and go snowboarding, or visit your French cousins and have some brie.
Posted by: Anonymous4052 || 04/13/2004 12:32 Comments || Top||

#9  Clinton Memoir May Suck Air Out Of Kerry Campaign.
Shouldn't that be... Clinton Memoir May Suck. Air Out Of Kerry Campaign.

Posted by: Tom || 04/13/2004 15:03 Comments || Top||

#10  If there is no air to suck, and there might not be if more loose cannons like those in Florida (other article) keep popping up, then the question is moot, and Clinton pays lower income tax on his book profits under a 2nd Bush administration.
Posted by: Anonymous4052 || 04/13/2004 16:25 Comments || Top||

#11  TOM....LOL!!!!

If there is ANYTHING the Clinton's understand it is PR. And they understand perfectly that making a Bruhaha before the election will increase promotion and thus personal profits.

I'm sure as far as they are concerned, Kerry can go (*&&( himself and then let Ted have a go at him before driving him off a bridge home. The Clinton's obviously never liked Kerry anyway, Clarke was their choice. Besides, a Bush win in 2004 is much better for sHill than is a Kerry win.

Bwahhaaahhhaahhhaa.....if anyone understands how to make the little Dim's dance for them, it's the Clintons. Dance..dimmy's dance.
Posted by: B || 04/13/2004 17:23 Comments || Top||

#12  The words Clinton and "suck" in the same sentence.
Haven't heard that much the last 10 years have we?
Posted by: tu3031 || 04/13/2004 18:59 Comments || Top||

#13 
Clinton Memoir May Suck
What, it was written by an overweight, big-haired intern?
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 04/13/2004 19:01 Comments || Top||


Judd Gregg tears Charlie a new one Corrects Shumer on Senate Floor
Long but way too good to pass up. Hat tip to Bastard Sword
U.S. Senator Judd Gregg (R-NH)
Floor Statement on 9/11 Commission, Thursday, April 8, 2004

      Mr. Gregg: Mr. President, I hadn't thought that this debate was going to enlarge itself into the issue of the testimony before the 9/11 Commission, but it appears that the other side of the aisle has decided the pension bill is not enough to debate today on this floor, even though that's what it was to be limited to. It raises this issue [9/11 Commission]. So I do think it is appropriate to at least respond briefly; the response could be more extensive, however, I will try to return to the pension bill in the appropriate time.

       To respond briefly to the statements of the Senator from which I found to be outrageous. Maybe the Senator from New York did not listen to the testimony of Mr. Clarke? It is very possible he didn't, because he appears to have decided to make his mind up long before the National Security Advisor, Ms. Rice spoke. I think it was Mr. Clarke who said, in fact I know it was Mr. Clarke who said, in response to his question from Senator Gorton, whose question was, “If the Administration had put in place every recommendation that you suggested to the prior Administration and to this Administration, and which you put in your memos and statements upon arrival of this Administration in office, if the Administration had done that, in fact if the Administration had pursued every course which had been laid out by Mr. Clarke, who was the guru of terrorism in the prior administration, which I also wish to comment on, would that have stopped the 9/11 event? Would that have prevented the 9/11 event?”
A one word answer from Mr. Clarke. "No." and yet we have the Senator from New York come down here today and say just the opposite. I don't think he has the expertise of Mr. Clarke and has certainly not been presenting himself as an expert on terrorism.

       Mr. Clarke has presented himself an expert on terrorism, was the expert on terrorism in the Clinton Administration and did say definitively in a one word answer, that no, 9/11 would not have been avoided had everything gone into place I wanted in place, I being Mr. Clarke. And so the statement by the Senator from New York is excessive, to say the least. When he comes here and says that 9/11 could have been avoided. And then when he goes on to accuse this Administration of not learning from lessons of the past.

       Well, I'll tell you something, this Administration did learn from lessons of the past. And lessons of the past were the lessons of the Clinton Administration, which when we were attacked, our Embassies were attacked in Africa and when our ship was attacked in Yemen, what was the response of the prior Administration? They lobbed a missile into an empty -- an empty! -- terrorist camp in Afghanistan and then lobbed another missile into the wrong factory in Sudan. And then they washed their hands of Mr. Bin Laden and said they had done their purpose of defeating terrorism. Well, what we learned after 9/11 was that those sort of marginal responses, those sort of tepid responses to terrorism do not work in the present world, and certainty this Administration learned that.

       I hesitate to think where we would be today had Al Gore been elected President. I suspect we would still be negotiating with the Taliban in Afghanistan. This Administration decided not to negotiate. This administration decided to take action. It went into Afghanistan and it destroyed the base of the Al Qaeda operations in that country and replaced a repressive regime that didn't even allow women out of their houses and supported all forms of terrorism across this globe, and especially the Al Qaeda terrorists. They learned the lessons of the prior Administration, which was: tepid responses don’t work.

       Then this Administration moved into Iraq. We moved into Iraq. As a government, we voted to move in that direction. Why? Because some of us understood that Saddam Hussein was a significant, dramatic threat to world peace and specifically was a dictator who had used weapons of mass destruction, who was oppressive at a level which hadn't been seen since the times of Nazi Germany, and who had the capacity to use his oppressiveness and his megalomania and his criminal view of the world to our detriment. He was a threat to us because of his ability to pass on that threat, the capacity to pass on weaponry, the capacity to be a sanctuary, and the capacity to be a feeding ground for people who caused us harm.

       We are at war. There is no question about that. And we have, as a government under this President, pursued that war with an aggressiveness which was absolutely appropriate. We have chased these people who wish to do us harm across the globe. We have kicked over the rocks under which they live and we have brought them to justice. Today they fear, their concern is about where they sleep, not who they are going to attack tomorrow.

       That is the type of response we needed as a government and as a nation in light of what happened to us on 9/11. And for the Senator from New York to come down here and say that we did not learn the lessons of 9/11 and the lessons of the prior Administration, which approached terrorism with such tepidness, is an absolute mistake. For them to come down here and say, after Mr. Clarke, who they have held up as the epitome of knowledge and expertise in the area of terrorism, testified in one word that 9/11 could not have been stopped when he said no to that exact question had all his proposals been put in place. For the Senator from New York to come down and make the statement that we could have avoided 9/11 in light of that testimony is I find excessive to an incomprehensible degree.

       I didn't intend to speak on this issue, but unfortunately it was drawn into this debate and I think it required a response. The National Security Advisor today went before the Commission, testified under oath and made a clear and concise statement of how we as a nation are responding to terrorism, how we as a nation are fighting a war against people who have decided to try to destroy our culture and have who have proven their willingness to kill Americans indiscriminately, whether they are men, women or children. We are using all our resources as a result of this President's commitment, which is total and absolute, to bring these terrorists to justice. Statements like the Senator's from New York are not constructive to the debate on that issue.
Posted by: Steve White || 04/13/2004 12:03:44 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  And now for the condensed version:

"Senator Schumer, how about a nice tall glass of
SHUT THE FUCK UP?"
Posted by: Raj || 04/13/2004 0:12 Comments || Top||

#2  Gregg should have gone after the weakened recommendations of the Gore Commission after TWA 800 was downed. The ones that were never assigned implementation dates in the final post-lobbying version of the commission report.

I heard it suggested today by Roger Hedgecock that we also compile the funds funneled through and assets used by Janet Reno's areas of purview for attacking Microsoft, for attacking Big Tobacco, for activities in Waco, and for activities for the purpose of returning a little kid to Castro. Against these figures we can compare assets and funds engaged in combating OBL by all Departments of Clinton's government in his eight years of office.
Posted by: Super Hose || 04/13/2004 0:36 Comments || Top||

#3  "Senator Schumer, how about a nice tall glass of SHUT THE FUCK UP?"

I'll pour!
Posted by: badanov || 04/13/2004 0:39 Comments || Top||

#4  The GOP can spin all they like--but on GWB's watch was when 9/11 happened--and BTW Richard Clarke had served since the Reagan Admin--so don't pretend he's a Democrat operative!
Posted by: Not Mike Moore || 04/13/2004 1:02 Comments || Top||

#5  but on GWB's watch was when 9/11 happened

And it was the culmination of Clinton's fucking around (literally as well). "It's the terrorists stupid".
Posted by: Rafael || 04/13/2004 1:10 Comments || Top||

#6  No, Clarke isn't a Democratic operative -- why, he was the most important terrorist expert in four different administrations.

According to him, anyways.

I have to say that some (at least) of what motivates Clarke is his rage over being demoted by GWB.

Now then, NMM, let's assume that there's plenty of blame to go around for 9/11, which there is. More important is the follow-on question: what do you DO about it? We know GWB's response.

Does anyone seriously think Al Gore would have gone along with an invasion of Afghanistan? Does anyone think that he would have thought seriously about it? Al would have been talked out of it -- you know, the brutal Afghan winter, the fierce Taliban, the French telling him that it's not a good idea and all, the humanitarian catastrophe that awaited, etc. And where would we be today? OBL would have his base camps, his secure operations, and further proof that the US was a toothless, crippled tiger that wouldn't defend itself.

Where would we be then, NMM? I ask a serious question, not to attack you, but in hopes that you'll respond seriously.
Posted by: Steve White || 04/13/2004 1:11 Comments || Top||

#7  How can anyone seriously (guess) say what Al Gore would have done? I agree with taking out the Taliban--but I also think a lot of our Intel experts Cia or military were diverted too Iraq before the job was really done. Saddam Hussein was not an immediate threat and could have been contained until the mission in Afghanistan--and let's face it--Pakistan was accomplished. I'm more concerned about the Pakistani nutz than anything Saddam was planning!
Posted by: Not Mike Moore || 04/13/2004 1:17 Comments || Top||

#8  NMM, Algore would have done nothing after 9/11 except surrender to OBL, then I'd be wearing a burqa and we'd all be bowing down to Mecca 5 times a day once Owlie Bore put shari'a law in place like his Islamist Masters told him to.
It's EASY to say what both Gore and Sen. Ketchup would do if we ever had the horrific misfortune to have them as POTUS--God Forbid.
Posted by: Jen || 04/13/2004 1:57 Comments || Top||

#9  Hey...Big Al endorsed Howling Howard!!!!!!!!

That's gotta be worth somethun.
Posted by: anymouse || 04/13/2004 2:06 Comments || Top||

#10  No no no!!! Containment was a losing strategy - a failure. It was just another half-measure like Clinton's missile strikes on Sudan and Afghanistan. There's plenty of blame to go around: Bush I, the Arab League, the UN, et al - I'm not trying to smear Clinton (even Clinton realized it was a failure and changed official policy to "Regime Change").

The partisan blame game is a dead-end. Nobody can be totally faulted for pre-9/11 misjudgments, using nothing but hindsight.

What is unforgivable though is to fail to learn from those mistakes. 12 years of Saddam containment did nothing to weaken him or lessen tyrany and did nothing to halt the growth and spread of terrorism. In fact, it was a direct factor in the rapid growth of terrorism during the '90s continuing up to 9/11 and even past that. The Jihadis listed the sanctions, no-fly zones, Baghdad bombings, troops in Arabia, etc. as their top grievances against us and used this to incite hatred against us and recruit trainees, money, and ideological support to their cause. Read Osama's 1996 fatwah against the U.S. But it wasn't just al-Qaida, throughout the world, the sanctions regime had become the focal point of rage against the U.S. Al Jizzera and other media outlets across the Arab world dutifully parroted Saddam's propaganda about the American-caused humanitarian crises. Europe and the American left (see 60 Minutes' Leslie Stahl's grilling of the inept Madeline Albright) were taking up the offensive from the other flank. It was already a decade-long Quagmire.
Posted by: Tokyo Taro || 04/13/2004 2:36 Comments || Top||

#11  Poor NMM: Senator Gregg has effectively pointed out that Clarke, the great terrorism expert, was incompetent, unable to cobble up an effective strategy to stop the biggest terrorist attack on US Soil. Thus, we witness the witless NMM trying to divert the blame from the clintons to bush by treating it like a game of "hot potato", hoping nobody notices that the bar has been raised and that the demand NOW is that the Bush administration do, in 8 months, what the Clinton administration failed to do in 8 years. I've always believed Bush was better than Clinton, but 12 times better, as NMM implies?

NMM screams we should have paid attention to what the terrorists are saying, hoping, of course, that we don't notice that Osama Bin Laden, to support his claim of the American Paper Tiger, ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY CITED LIMP WRISTED ACTIONS BY THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION AGAINST HIM.

Sorry, NMM. The attempt to blame the pitcher in the ninth inning for failing to win the game, when your darling, the preceding pitcher, put the team into so deep a hole that nobody could dig them out of it, only proves you're unfit to give advice on the matter.
Posted by: Ptah || 04/13/2004 7:11 Comments || Top||

#12  NMM -- most of the hijackers came into the country during the Clinton administration.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 04/13/2004 8:47 Comments || Top||

#13  when are americans going to wake up? the enemy here is iran. it has been for over 20 years. we went into iraq to change the middle east and to defeat iran , there is an old saying "All roads in the middle east lead through bagdad". taking out the talibs was not enough to change iranian, syrian and soddy policy but by going into iraq we put these countries on notice. and if you read anything in the last week hostilities our enemies are desperate. i am surprised they acted so soon but then again if freedom and democracy take hold iraq the ragheads in tehran are doomed. we are winning the larger battle and we as americans need to understand this conflict and what stage it is really in.

just remember that our enemies are watching and taking cues.
Posted by: Dan || 04/13/2004 10:46 Comments || Top||

#14  Yes, yes. "On his watch" Great talking point, that. But you know what also happened?

GWB sent in the military and kicked the living crap out of them in Afghanistan. That's what. Not a little cruise missile strike at an abandoned camp. Not a baby-formula factory going up in flames.

No, he put troops on the ground and kicked the backward-ass Taliban to the curb. All of which came as a great surprise to al-Qaeda. That we are still chasing them around the mountains today is still a cause for concern for them, I'm sure.

I think GWB did the right thing. And I'm confident he will continue to the right thing. And if the Islamodingbats try another big attack on us this year, I don't doubt that once more the right thing will be done... politically expedient or not.

I've already written to my Congressman expressing my concern about Iran. Please take some time to do the same.
Posted by: eLarson || 04/13/2004 10:54 Comments || Top||

#15  Dan has a clue, folks. Who's causing the problems in Iraq at the moment? It happens to be al-Sadr - Tehran's paid-for twerp in Iraq. There are several THOUSAND Iranian "pilgrims" in Iraq, helping out (read Zayad's blog of a couple of days ago, and Michael Ladeen's NRO column from last year).

Funny thing, though: Iran is smack-dab in the middle between Iraq and Afghanistan. The US just happens to have troops in... Iraq and Afghanistan. The turbantops happen to know that. They're stirring up trouble in both Iraq and Afghanistan, because they know as soon as we get things settled there, we're gonna move toward the center. That center happens to be Tehran.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/13/2004 12:00 Comments || Top||

#16  The GOP can spin all they like--but on GWB's watch was when 9/11 happened..

Yeah sure, the terrorists planned it all in eight lousy months, so it was ALL Bush's fault. Uh huh. Yup, yup.

You sure you're not Michael Moore? You're about as clueless as he is.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 04/13/2004 12:13 Comments || Top||

#17  The GOP can spin all they like--but on GWB's watch was when 9/11 happened--and BTW Richard Clarke had served since the Reagan Admin--so don't pretend he's a Democrat operative!

more partisian brinkmanship! get over it already, WE ARE ALL TO BLAME.

but one thing does stand out about clarke - he waited till his scheduled appearance in the 9-11 witchhunt to have his book published. he may not be a dem operative but he certainaly holds his personal finances and vendatta's above the security of the american people. his apology was hollow.
Posted by: Dan || 04/13/2004 13:55 Comments || Top||

#18  to have his book published. he may not be a dem operative but he certainaly holds his personal finances and vendatta's above the security of the american people
First things first Senor.
Posted by: The Beard yep that One || 04/13/2004 16:05 Comments || Top||

#19  Why bother to address any thoughts from NMM. He is so obviously clueless that he should be assigned the same fate as other poseurs...relegated to the dustbin of unworthy combatant and dismissed out of hand (and reply).
Posted by: Anonymous4152 || 04/13/2004 16:31 Comments || Top||

#20  The Beard yep that One - i do not see where you link has any relevance to my statement. it is not a secret these dictators are rich because they steal from thier own people.

clarke is def no dictator and he did have his book published to coincide with the 9-11 commission. just do not see your point.
Posted by: Dan || 04/13/2004 18:20 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Man Sentenced for Carrying 32 Blades in Luggage testing security
Posted by: Phil B || 04/13/2004 20:43 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  You mean the judge didn't believe "they were all for personal use"? ;P
Posted by: Desert Blondie || 04/13/2004 20:55 Comments || Top||

#2  Burma Shave?
Posted by: Raj || 04/13/2004 23:01 Comments || Top||


Ashcroft Testimony Before 9/11 - The Wall
AP Trannscript of Atty Gen Ashcroft
. . . In the days before September 11, the wall specifically impeded the investigation into Zacarias Moussaoui, Khalid al-Midhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi.After the FBI arrested Moussaoui, agents became suspicious of his interest in commercial aircraft and sought approval for a criminal warrant to search his computer. The warrant was rejected because FBI officials feared breaching the wall. When the CIA finally told the FBI that al-Midhar and al-Hazmi were in the country in late August, agents in New York searched for the suspects. But because of the wall, FBI Headquarters refused to allow criminal investigators who knew the most about the most recent al Qaeda attack to join the hunt for the suspected terrorists. At that time, a frustrated FBI investigator wrote Headquarters, quote, "Whatever has happened to this - someday someone will die - and wall or not - the public will not understand why we were not more effective and throwing every resource we had at certain ’problems’. Let’s hope the National Security Law Unit will stand behind their decision then, especially since the biggest threat to us, UBL, is getting the most protection." FBI Headquarters responded, quote: "We are all frustrated with this issue ... These are the rules. NSLU does not make them up." But somebody did make these rules. Someone built this wall. See http://wid.ap.org/transcripts/1995%20Gorelick%20Memo.pdf

The basic architecture for the wall in the 1995 Guidelines was contained in a classified memorandum entitled "Instructions on Separation of Certain Foreign Counterintelligence and Criminal Investigations. "The memorandum ordered FBI Director Louis Freeh and others, quote: "We believe that it is prudent to establish a set of instructions that will more clearly separate the counterintelligence investigation from the more limited, but continued, criminal investigations. These procedures, which go beyond what is legally required, will prevent any risk of creating an unwarranted appearance that FISA is being used to avoid procedural safeguards which would apply in a criminal investigation."

This memorandum established a wall separating the criminal and intelligence investigations following the 1993 World Trade Center attack, the largest international terrorism attack on American soil prior to September 11. Although you understand the debilitating impact of the wall, I cannot imagine that the Commission knew about this memorandum, so I have declassified it for you and the public to review. Full disclosure compels me to inform you that its author is a member of this Commission. By 2000, the Justice Department was so addicted to the wall, it actually opposed legislation to lower the wall. Finally, the USA PATRIOT ACT tore down this wall between our intelligence and law enforcement personnel in 2001. And when the PATRIOT ACT was challenged, the FISA Court of Review upheld the law, ruling that the 1995 guidelines were required by neither the Constitution nor the law.
Why is Goerlick sitting in judgment on this comission after this?
Posted by: Anonymous4052 || 04/13/2004 6:48:53 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I beleive that the military term for what Ashcroft did to this person is "breaking it off in one's behind."
Posted by: Super Hose || 04/14/2004 0:31 Comments || Top||

#2  Ms Goerlick probably said, "Oh, I forgot about THAT 6-page memo. Oops. Sorry guys."
Posted by: BigEdLB || 04/14/2004 1:35 Comments || Top||


Freeh Unaware of Credible Evidence Linking Qaeda to Oklahoma City
Former FBI Director Louis Freeh said he is unaware of any credible evidence connecting the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing to al-Qaida terrorists. Testifying before the national commission investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on America, Freeh was asked about a recent book, The Third Terrorist, which alleges a connection between an al-Qaida terrorist and Oklahoma City bombing conspirators Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols. Freeh said he hasn’t read the book and is unaware of any credible sources that would make the connection.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 04/13/2004 6:04:46 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Looooooo - ever hear of Laurie Mylroie?
Posted by: Frank G || 04/13/2004 18:25 Comments || Top||

#2  The "Not Invented Here" defense. Not our idea, so we aren't interested.
Posted by: john || 04/13/2004 20:26 Comments || Top||


Gore Commission watered down CAPPS I after lobbying by CAIR
EFL - kind of dated but relevant due to ongoing 9-11 Commission.

The Computer-Assisted Passenger Profiling System, or CAPPS, selected six hijackers for additional security screening on Sept. 11, because they bought one-way tickets using cash, things that show up as red flags in the system. But only their checked luggage was searched, authorities say. The selected passengers themselves weren’t searched or even questioned by airport security personnel. That’s because the so-called "Gore Commission" on aviation security last decade ruled out such profiling as discriminatory.

Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations lobbied hard against Arab-profiling at airports, enlisting lawmakers like Rep. David Bonior, a Democrat from a heavily Arab district in Michigan. He, in turn, lobbied FAA Administrator Jane Garvey. The airlines, which handled security at airport terminals, were also reluctant to profile Arabs.

"CAPPS was developed because the airline industry didn’t want to do human-profiling," said the FAA official, who wished to remain anonymous. "Yet human-profiling is the single-biggest deterrent against terrorism in the aviation industry." CAPPS ignores key terror predictors, he says, such as the nationality, ethnicity, religion, language and even the sex of passengers. Young men of Middle Eastern origin tend to fit the anti-American or anti-Israeli terrorist profile, authorities say.

The computerized system instead flags passengers based on relatively sterile criteria involving the purchase of their tickets. Did they pay cash or credit? How many days in advance of the flight? One-way or round-trip? Are they irregular or frequent fliers? Of course, such behavior can easily be changed by would-be hijackers to fool the system.

"CAPPS literally makes you a selectee based on how you purchase your ticket," the FAA official said. "It has nothing to do with fighting terrorism, in spite of what the FAA says."

The computer also selects a certain number of passengers by random. For example, United Airlines Flight 93 passenger Nicole Miller was selected on Sept. 11 to have her checked bags secretly swept. The 21-year-old was heading back home to San Jose, Calif., where she went to college and worked as a waitress at Chili’s. Her hijacked plane crashed in Pennsylvania shortly after take-off from Newark, N.J.

It would be interesting to see Gore, Bonoir and the FAA publically testify.
Posted by: Super Hose || 04/13/2004 2:46:06 PM || Comments || Link || [10 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Ummm, wasn't Antiwar casting doubt on another thread as to whether a Gore administration would have invaded Afghanistan after 9/11? Here's a pretty strong indicator that he wouldn't have.
Posted by: Raj || 04/13/2004 15:03 Comments || Top||

#2  This is the kind of stuff that makes the history books.
Posted by: B || 04/13/2004 15:19 Comments || Top||

#3  Raj here's one for your blog. In 1999 the ACLU was calling for us to stop racial profiling at airports ... even though Gore had already buckled. Stop Racial Profiling at American Airports!
Posted by: Super Hose || 04/13/2004 15:42 Comments || Top||

#4  Even after 9/11, U.S. District Judge Florence-Marie Cooper didn't get with the program.
Posted by: Super Hose || 04/13/2004 15:44 Comments || Top||

#5  Bonior and Obey have been sucking at the Arab/CAIR teat for a long time...traitors
Posted by: Frank G || 04/13/2004 18:10 Comments || Top||

#6  AlGore had nothing to do with this. He drank too much ice tea and was out taking a leak when they changed the rules.
Just ask him...
Posted by: tu3031 || 04/13/2004 19:02 Comments || Top||


International-UN-NGOs
Lubbers to visit Pakistan, Iran and Afghanistan
United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees chief Ruud Lubbers is scheduled to visit Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan, BBC reported on Monday. Mr Lubbers will arrive in Iran to discuss important issues, particularly the Afghan refugee problem. Later, he will meet Hamid Karzai in Kabul during his visit to Afghanistan. Mr Lubbers will also visit Pakistan to discuss the repatriation of Afghan refugees. According to the UNHCR, 60,000 Afghans have returned to Afghanistan since the beginning of March.
Posted by: Fred || 04/13/2004 14:02 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


UN's oil-for-food program funded Scott Ritter's film
Hat tip to LGF.
A Detroit-based businessman of Iraqi origin who financed a film by Scott Ritter, the former chief United Nations weapons inspector, has admitted for the first time being awarded oil allocations during the UN oil-for-food programme. Shakir Khafaji, who had close contacts with Saddam Hussein's regime, made $400,000 available for Mr Ritter to make In Shifting Sands, a film in which the ex-inspector claimed Iraq had been "defanged" after a decade of UN weapons inspections. The disclosure is likely to raise further questions about the operation of the oil-for-food programme, which is already the subject of Congressional investigations and a separate high-level UN inquiry.

Mr Khafaji financed Mr Ritter's film in the same period as he received "allocations" for Iraqi oil, handed out by Baghdad on a discretionary basis as part of the UN oil-for-food programme between 1995 and 2002. Recipients of the allocations were able to sell the oil to international traders for between 10 cents and 30 cents per barrel. A 1m-barrel allocation could net as much as $300,000 in profit. The scheme was set up in such a way that beneficiaries' names were not recorded by the UN, and allowed them to claim they received no money from the Iraqi government.

Mr Khafaji says there was no connection between the oil allocations, which he says he sold on behalf of his "family", and his relationship with Mr Ritter, an ex-Marine who shifted from being one Saddam Hussein's toughest critics on weapons of mass destruction to being an opponent of the US-led invasion of Iraq.
"No, no! Certainly not!"
In an interview with the Financial Times and Il Sole 24 Ore, the Italian business daily, Mr Khafaji admitted that he sold allocations to Italtech, a Tuscany-based company, which resold the oil to a Houston-based oil trading company called Bayoil, or its subsidiaries. But he says he never told Mr Ritter about his receipt of the oil allocations.
"He knew nothink!"
Mr Ritter said he did not know that Mr Khafaji was involved in the oil-for-food programme. He denied receiving any money from the Iraqi government to help make his film.
"Lies! All lies!"
He said he had an agreement with Mr Khafaji that his documentary would not be used in any deal with the Iraqis. "To my knowledge Shakir has abided by this agreement, meaning that he has not been reimbursed by the Iraqi government for the money he put up for the movie," Mr Ritter said. Asked what he would say if there was proof Mr Khafaji had received money from the regime, Mr Ritter replied: "I would agree that there's reason to believe there's a quid pro quo. "I would agree that it's a suspicious thing; that Shakir al-Khafaji would have a responsibility to explain to me what happened. I'm not going to assume anything up front."
What a pathetic excuse of a human being.
Posted by: Steve White || 04/13/2004 12:29:29 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  so the oil/film money was the carrot, and the stick was probably video of Ritter and underage little girls - something he continued once he got home, apparently....

what a scumbag
Posted by: Frank G || 04/13/2004 8:01 Comments || Top||

#2  Interview with Scott Ritter's Best Friend:

Hello, all American peoples. My name is Aliah. My uncle, Saddam, asked me to be nice to Mr. Scott. Mr. Scott a nice man. He give me chocolate and a watch. All he want is me to watch him do naughty. Uncle Saddam give me camera to take pictures. Mr. Scott ask me to spank him, but I laugh and run away. Mr. Scott funny American. Are all Americans funny like Mr. Scott? Uncle Saddam ask me to ask.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 04/13/2004 8:37 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Opposition Figures Released in Myanmar
Posted by: Fred || 04/13/2004 13:14 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "..but pro-democracy leader Aung San Suu Kyi remains in detention at her home"

they sure are afraid of a little lady, aren't they?
Posted by: Frank G || 04/13/2004 18:09 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
1,600 kilos of morphine seized in northeast Iran
Posted by: Fred || 04/13/2004 13:26 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Morphine huh? Not Heroin or Opium? Who refined it?
Posted by: Frank G || 04/13/2004 18:23 Comments || Top||


Iran President Withdraws Key Reform Bills
President Mohammad Khatami withdrew two key reform bills Tuesday, even as an official reviled by reformers as an enemy of press freedom was publicly honored as the "best manager" in the Iranian judiciary — small signs of the waning strength of the reform movement.
I'd say the reform movement is dead. Since there's no middle ground, it's come down to either continue being ruled by mullahs or kill them. Eventually the Medes and the Persians will kill them, if we don't do it first...
The bills, which Khatami announced last month he would remove from further parliamentary consideration, had sought to bring democratic change to Iran's religious theocracy. Abandoning them was an acknowledgment of the failure of a major reform battle advanced during Khatami's presidency.
At least partially attributable to Khatami's failures as a person...
One of the bills was aimed at increasing presidential powers in order to stop constitutional violations by unelected hard-liners. The other sought to bar the hard-line oversight body, the Guardian Council, from disqualifying parliamentary and presidential election candidates. Khatami withdrew the bills in a letter addressed to the parliamentary speaker, Mahdi Karroubi. The letter was read Tuesday in an open session of parliament and broadcast live on Tehran radio. The Guardian Council, which vets all legislation, rejected the parliament-approved bills in April and May 2003, saying they were unconstitutional and against Islam. "Since there is possibility of more changes against the spirit of the bills in the future, I demand withdrawal of both bills from the parliament," Khatami wrote. In recent years, Khatami's image has changed from leader of a once hugely popular reform movement to Alexander Karensky a weak president afraid of standing up to unelected hard-liners.

Also on Tuesday, Iran's unelected clerics honored one of the biggest enemies of Khatami's reform program: Saeed Mortazavi, a former judge and now Tehran prosecutor who was behind the closure of about 100 pro-democracy publications. Mortazavi was praised as "best manager" in the judiciary. Reformers have described Mortazavi as the "killer of press freedoms" for the closures and for jailing dozens of writers on vague charges of insulting Islamic sanctities. Iranian television showed a smiling Mortazavi receiving the award from top judiciary official, Abbas Ali Alizadeh. Alizadeh is also known as an opponent of democratic reforms.
Posted by: Fred || 04/13/2004 13:03 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  And there you have it. Triple turbans win for the near term.
Posted by: Shipman || 04/13/2004 16:29 Comments || Top||

#2  At least partially attributable to Khatami's failures as a person...

Never mind that he's called "moderate"; Khatami's failure is that he's still a member of the mullahcracy.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 04/13/2004 22:44 Comments || Top||

#3  I remain skeptical that the Medes and Persians have the stones to eliminate this problem. However, the abandonment of faux reform is an extremely positive development as it eliminates the 'middle ground' as Fred notes.

We need to stay the course in Iraq precisely because it can quickly become a source of instability for the Mullahs just as they are not fomenting unrest in Iraq.
Posted by: JAB || 04/13/2004 22:55 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
Finish It or Forget It....says VDH
Posted by: Mark || 04/13/2004 19:41 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Africa: Subsaharan
Christian group quits peace talks with Muslims in Kaduna
An umbrella group representing various Christian churches in Nigeria said on Friday it had pulled out of peace talks with Muslims in the volatile northern Nigerian state of Kaduna after accusing Islamic militants of mounting a new spate of attacks on Christians across the north.
"Piss on it. You can't talk to those people."
For three years, the Christian Association of Nigeria (CAN) has been in government-backed talks with its Muslim counterpart, Jamatuul Nasir Islam (JNI) in Kaduna State in a bid to end the sectarian violence.
And nothing's happened but piles of dead people, has it?
More than 3,000 people have died in clashes in the state capital of Kaduna, since 2000. However, CAN leaders said on Friday that the process has been undermined by a series of attacks against Christians that have claimed more than 1,000 lives and razed 63 churches since the beginning of the year. The latest incident took place in the town of Makarfi, 150 km north of Kaduna city on 4 April. Islamic militants burnt down nine churches in the town.
There's always some sort of reason for the guys with turbans to burn down churches and slaughter anybody without a turban...
“Right now we have withdrawn from the peace process because of these attacks,” Saidu Dogo, secretary general of CAN in northern Nigeria, told IRIN. No deaths were reported during the disturbances at Makarfi, but according to Dogo, the story is very different in central Plateau State. There, CAN report more than 1,000 people - mostly Christians and followers of traditional religions - have been killed since the beginning of the year. CAN have blamed the attacks on Muslims. More than 50 churches were also burned down, the association said. Violence has raged intermittently between Muslims and Christians in Plateau State since September 2001, when an outburst of sectarian violence in the capital, Jos, claimed more than 1,000 lives.
Yasss... The violence has raged between the Muslims and the Christians. No doubt there's fault to be found on both sides. No doubt we are all responsible...
But Abulkadir Orire, JNI secretary general, challenged CAN’s claims, saying most of the victims of the clashes in Plateau state were Muslims.
"Yes! Yes! The Christians are vicious! They kill us! They rape our women, even though our women don't have any pubic lips! They steal our stuff!"
The JNI blamed the recent violence in Makarfi on unnamed “disgruntled elements” that were using restless and frustrated Muslim youths to achieve selfish socio-economic and political ambitions. The Islamic group called on the Nigerian authorities to probe these incidents that have “created distrust” between Muslims and Christians.
Yeah. Most people tend to distrust a group that comes swooping into town and burns down all the churches and slaughters as many people as they can.
In recent years, tension between Christians and Muslims has been fed by mutual suspicions following the introduction of the strict Islamic or Shariah legal code by 12 states in Nigeria’s mainly Muslim north.
... but surely that couldn't have anything to do with it?
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Africa: North
MAURITANIA: Government refuses to legalise new opposition party
The government of Mauritania has refused to even consider legalising a new pro-Islamic opposition party set up by supporters of former president Mohammed Khouna Ould Haidalla.
"We ain't even gonna think about it!"
"Awww, c'mon. At least think about it!"
"Okay. Lemme think, here... Ummm... No."
Last Wednesday they filed a request to legalise the new Party for Democratic Convergence with the Interior Ministry. However, on Sunday, Cheick Ould Horma, the party's president, said the government had refused to even accept the application for processing. He said the Interior Ministry had rejected the application out of hand, arguing that the party leadership contained Islamic radicals, several individuals who are wanted by the courts and others who had recently been sentenced to suspended prison terms.
Doesn't sound like the most reputable leadership, does it?
Ould Horma told reporters that this action by the government of President Maaouiya Ould Taya was illegal. "They should study the documents and then decide," he stressed. "It is the ministry which is outside the law. We reckon we have followed the right procedure." Although Mauritania's 2.5 million population is staunchly Muslim and the constitution defines the West African country as an Islamic Republic, faith-based political parties are banned by law.
... which I think is a damned good idea.
Ould Horma admitted that many people, who wanted to see Mauritania's government organised along more strictly Islamic lines had joined the new opposition party whose acronym in Arabic means "Praise be to God." But he argued: "the Islamic radicals have not joined the party as a movement but are there in their own right as individuals."
"There's a diffo, y'know. It's kinda subtle..."
The Party for Democratic Convergence was formed from the broad coalition of opposition forces that backed Ould Haidalla in his failed bid to unseat Ould Taya in last November's presidential election. The opposition claims that poll was heavily rigged. Ould Taya has governed this desert state with an iron hand since he siezed power from Ould Haidalla in a coup 20 years ago and is now preparing to lead it into a minor oil boom as offshore oilfields are commercially developed. Ould Haidalla, a former army colonel, served as Mauritania's military head of state from 1979 to 1984. The government's reference to the new party containing individuals sentenced to suspended prison terms is an allusion to Ould Haidalla himself and several of his supporters. They were arrested immediately after the November election and charged with plotting a coup. After a brief trial, the former president was given a five-year suspended prison sentence and was deprived of his political rights for five years. Nine of his supporters received similar punishments.
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Banned group congratulates Bouteflika
The banned Algerian fundamentalist group, the Islamic Salvation Front (FIS), yesterday congratulated President Abdelaziz Bouteflika for his resounding election win last week and urged him to see through his national reconciliation programme. "We are waiting to see if his re-election will lift all the obstacles in the way of frankly implementing the reconciliation programme," the FIS said in a statement. The FIS, which wants to create an Islamic state in Algeria, was banned there in 1992 when the group was on the verge of winning legislative elections.
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#1  And the FIS is that peaceful, kind group that wanted to fly a plane into the Eiffel Tower in 1995--BUT Condi--"Never heard no such talk 'bout flyin' no planes into no buildings/monuments" and then her lips fell off---c'mon guys it was in Time magazine back then--and the National Security Advisor never heard about such an idea?!?!? She should be fired for lack of awareness if not misfeasance!
Posted by: Not Mike Moore || 04/13/2004 22:16 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Nepal king calls for peace to help hold elections
Nepal’s King Gyanendra called on Tuesday for peace and security to help conduct long-delayed elections, days after thousands of people took to the streets urging him to initiate democratic reforms.
"I've changed my mind. Let's have a democracy instead of throwing me out, okay?"
“It is clear that peace and security are the Nepalese people’s prime desire as well as the nation’s necessity,” the monarch, who is also facing a deadly Maoist revolt, said in a statement on the Nepali New Year. “Highest priority must, therefore, be accorded to the creation of an environment wherein the governance of the country can be handed over to the elected representatives,” he said.
"... instead of doing that thing they did with Louis XVI..."
King Gyanendra plunged the impoverished nation into a crisis in 2002 when he fired the elected prime minister for failing to contain the Maoist insurgency and indefinitely postponed elections then set for November that year. More than 9,300 people have died in the rebellion since it started in 1996 to replace the constitutional monarchy with a communist republic.
They mean a "people's republic," of course...
Violence has surged since peace talks collapsed last August. Mainstream political parties have been demanding the monarch set up a multi-party government in place of the one he nominated in 2002. Gyanendra last month said he hoped to hold elections by April next year but his comments are not seen as a commitment to stick to that schedule and the polls could be further delayed using the lack of security as a reason. Last week, more than 2,000 people were detained as thousands of protesters defied a government ban on rallies to launch the biggest anti-king demonstrations since 1990 when multi-party democracy was set up. Organisers said about 150 protesters were still held without any charges but authorities said only 19 people were in custody. Analysts said Gyanendra, who is officially a constitutional monarch but effectively exercises all state powers, has made several calls for peace in the past but had not come up with measures to match the plea. “He wants to rule the country directly in the name of multi-party democracy,” Rajendra Dahal, editor of the widely read Nepali magazine Himal, told Reuters. “He has not initiated any steps to resolve the current crisis,” Dahal said.
Unless he does, he's toast, and good riddance.
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#1  Hmm lemme see--absolute monarchy or Communism--well, the Communists spend less on ermine--so let's go with that!
Posted by: Not Mike Moore || 04/13/2004 21:55 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
Vietnam?
Why the analogy doesn’t hold water.
By Christopher Hitchens
Here is how the imperialist plot in Iraq was proceeding until recently. The Shiite Muslim pilgrimages to Najaf and Karbala and the Sunni pilgrimages to Mecca and Medina had been recommenced after a state ban that had lasted for years and been enforced in blood. A new dinar had been minted, without the face of the dictator, and was on its way to becoming convertible. (Indeed, recent heists at the Beirut and Baghdad airports suggested that the Iraqi currency was at last worth stealing.) The deliberately parched and scorched wetlands of the south were being re-flooded. At the end of June, the American headquarters was to be converted into an embassy. At that point, almost $100 billion was to become available for the reconstitution of the Iraqi state and society. By the end of the year, campaigning would be under way for the first open election in Iraqi memory, and the only such election in the region (unless you count Israel).

There are those—not conspicuous for their bravery under a less indulgent regime—who would prefer not to give this process a chance to breathe. For them, it is nobler to take hostages and dismember prisoners and to conceal explosives in the bodies of dead dogs. When confronted with those who were brave under the previous regime, they tend to back away. (I don’t see Muqtada Sadr taking on the Kurdish peshmerga any time soon, and I’d be fascinated to see what happened if he did. He has said that "Kurdistan is the enemy of God.")

Of what does this confrontation remind you? Why, of Vietnam, says Sen. Edward Kennedy. No, more like Lebanon in 1982, says the New York Times. The usually admirable Colbert King, in the Washington Post, asking how we got ourselves into this, compares pro-American Iraqis to the Uncle Toms on whom liberal opinion used to rely for advice about the black ghetto. And Thomas Friedman, never more than an inch away from a liberal panic of his own, has decided that it is Kurdish arrogance—in asking to keep what they already have—that has provoked theocratic incendiarism.

If the United States were the nation that its enemies think it is, it could quite well afford to Balkanize Iraq, let the various factions take a chunk each, and make a divide-and-rule bargain with the rump. The effort continues, though, to try and create something that is simultaneously federal and democratic. Short of that, if one absolutely has to fall short, the effort must continue to deny Iraq to demagogues and murderers and charlatans. I can’t see how this compares to the attempt to partition and subjugate Vietnam, bomb its cities, drench its forests in Agent Orange, and hand over its southern region to a succession of brutal military proxies. For one thing, Vietnam even at its most Stalinist never invaded and occupied neighboring countries (or not until it took on the Khmer Rouge), never employed weapons of genocide inside or outside its own borders, and never sponsored gangs of roving nihilist terrorists. If not all its best nationalists were Communists, all its best Communists were nationalists, and their combination of regular and irregular forces had beaten the Japanese and French empires long before the United States even set foot in the country, let alone before the other Kennedy brothers started assassinating the very puppets they had installed there.

As for Lebanon: Gen. Sharon in 1982 set out to "solve" the Palestinian problem by installing a fascist-minded Phalange Party, itself a minority of the Christian minority, in Beirut. (To watch American policy in Iraq, you would never even know that there was a 6 percent Christian minority there.) And Sharon invaded a country that already had a large population of Palestinian refugees, a country that had committed no offense against international law except to shelter those Palestinians—against their will and that of Lebanon—to begin with.

Colbert King is actually nearer the mark than he knows. Those Arab Iraqis who take a pro-American line do have a tendency to be secular, educated, and multicultural. They also, often, have had to spend time in exile (as 4 million Iraqis have been compelled to do), and many of them have barely had time to come home and start over. Then there is a potential majority, according even to the most depressing opinion polls, who want to be given time to think. The above qualifications don’t apply so much to Iraqi Kurdistan, which did its own fighting and doesn’t suffer so much from that elusive feeling of "humiliation," and where the "street" is pro-American. This does force us to face the fact that there is no pro-Western militia, with ready-made slogans of religion and nationalism and "martyrdom" and Kalashnikovs to spare. And facing that fact means asking whether we will abandon the nascent Iraqi civil society to those who do have those things.

The scenes in Fallujah and Kut and elsewhere are prefigurations of what a transfer of power would have looked like, unedited, in the absence of coalition forces. This is the Iraq that had been prepared for us by more than a decade of sanctions-plus-Saddam, with a new lumpen class of impoverished, disenfranchised, and paranoid people, with bullying, Khomeini-style, Wahhabi-style and Baath-style forces to compete for their loyalty. Such was the future we faced anyway. This is implicitly admitted by those antiwar forces who asked, "Why not Zimbabwe?" or, "Why not Rwanda?"

I could give a list of mistakes that I think the Bremer administration has made, but none that would have justified theocratic barbarism. I don’t feel I should give free advice to officers in the field, but if the locations seized by Sadr or his Sunni counterparts had been left to their own devices for a few days, there is some reason to think that the local population would have gotten a glimpse of that future and rejected it. A few days rule by the inflamed Party of God. 
 Or what about a quarter-century of it, as the Iranian people have just had to endure?

Here is the reason that it is idle to make half-baked comparisons to Vietnam. The Vietnamese were not our enemy, let alone the enemy of the whole civilized world, whereas the forces of jihad are our enemy and the enemy of civilization. There were some Vietnamese, even after the whole ghastly business, who were sorry to see the Americans leave. There were no Lebanese who were sad to see the Israelis leave. There would be many, many Iraqis who would be devastated in more than one way if there was another Somalian scuttle in their country. In any case, there never was any question of allowing a nation of this importance to become the property of Clockwork Orange holy warriors.
"Clockwork Orange holy warriors." I love that phrase...
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#1  Put Christopher Hitchens on the Rantburg list of opinion writers that get posted.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 04/13/2004 14:11 Comments || Top||

#2  And to state the obvious:
Vietnam was damn full of Vietnameese
Posted by: Shipman || 04/13/2004 16:24 Comments || Top||


Senator, Iraq Is No Vietnam
Opinion piece in the Moscow Times!
The administration of U.S. President George W. Bush has plenty of enemies both at home and abroad. A lot of people would love to see Bush get a bloody nose in Iraq, or anywhere else. Last week the critics had a field day: With heavy fighting in Fallujah and sporadic clashes breaking out elsewhere, Democratic Senator Edward Kennedy said that Iraq had become "George Bush's Vietnam," and declared that the United States needs a new leader. It was Kennedy's older brother, John F. Kennedy, who dragged the United States into the Vietnam quagmire, and the senator should know better than to compare Vietnam and Iraq.
Ouch, that's gonna leave a mark.
I think Teddy's impervious. He doesn't feel shame like we do.
The Vietnam War was a battlefield in the global Cold War that pitted the United States against the Soviet Union and its allies. The Soviet defense industry supplied the North Vietnamese with the latest weapons. In 1975 North Vietnamese regulars, armed and trained by the Soviets, took Saigon. "Winning" the war in Vietnam was impossible without first winning the Cold War. So long as the Soviets were able to maintain a global balance of power, any local war -- in Vietnam, Afghanistan, Nicaragua -- tended to develop into a quagmire.
That was simply because the Sovs could make it so, continuing to send in weapons and support, not with the objective of actually winning, but of causing us to expend effort to keep them from winning.
Today the world is a very different place, and the scope of the fighting in Iraq cannot be compared to Vietnam. The United States lost more than 60,000 soldiers and 8,000 aircraft in Vietnam. U.S. casualties in Iraq number fewer than 500. The nature of combat of Iraq, as demonstrated in Fallujah last week, is also different. Four U.S. civilian contractors were killed and their bodies mutilated by local residents. Less than 2,000 Marines moved in to find and punish the perpetrators.
"Never have so many had cause to be so scared of so few..."
Under Saddam Hussein, the Sunni Muslims of Fallujah, a city of some 400,000 inhabitants, were regularly recruited to serve as officers in the armed forces and the security services. When Baghdad fell, these loyalists found themselves out of a job and returned home. In Fallujah, they formed underground armed groups and waited for the Marines to attack. It is possible that the killing of the four contractors was a deliberate provocation intended to lure U.S. forces into the streets of Fallujah, where local armed bands lay in wait. In Vietnam, and more recently in Somalia in 1993, U.S. losses during street fighting led to outcry back home and the unconditional withdrawal of U.S. troops.
"Blackhawk Down" syndrome.
The Bad Guys assume that at least 51 percent of the American population is wimpy on the order of Mr. Kennedy and his friends. That's why they keep trying to reenact Tet and Mogadishu, to come up with something sufficiently hideous to scare us off, so they can go back to their old pursuits...
The Iraqi insurgents in Fallujah outnumbered the Marines and were armed with Kalashnikov automatic rifles, RPG-7 antitank grenade launchers and mortars. Chechen fighters used the same weapons in Grozny in 1995, 1996 and 2000, killing thousands of Russian soldiers and destroying hundreds of armored vehicles. Just like the Russians in Grozny, the Marines last week were supported by tanks and attack helicopters, but the end result was entirely different. U.S. forces did not bomb the city indiscriminately.
At least we haven't yet...
The Iraqis fought well but were massacred. According to the latest body count, some 600 Iraqis died and another 1,000 were wounded. The Marines lost some 20 men.
The Russians are watching and taking notes.
The Marines are far better trained, of course, but the Iraqis were fighting in their hometown. The decisive difference between the two sides was the extensive use of a computerized command, control and targeting system by the U.S. military. Satellites, manned and unmanned aircraft collected precise information on enemy and friendly movements on the battlefield night and day. Modern U.S. field commanders have real-time access to this system, allowing them to monitor the changing situation on the battlefield as no commander in the history of war has been able to do. This technology has greatly enhanced the effectiveness of aerial bombardments in the last decade. And now the nature of house-to-house combat has changed as well.
Another reason why we moved our allies out of the way, they don't have the technology to keep up. And the gap keeps getting bigger every day.
The more accurate historical analogy to the current war in Iraq is not Vietnam but, say, the battle at Omdurman, Sudan, in 1898, when Horatio Herbert Kitchener, a British field marshal, crushed the Sudanese forces of al-Mahdi by bringing machine guns to bear against the enemy's muskets and spears. Today the United States has the capability and the technical superiority to fight and win colonial wars against numerically superior enemies.
Not just colonial wars, Ivan. Keep that in mind.
But military superiority is not enough. Will the Bush administration -- or the Democrats, should they win the White House in November -- prove better, kinder rulers of the world than the British Liberals and Tories of a century ago?
Big difference, we don't want to rule the world. We just want to make it a safer place to live.
Posted by: Steve || 04/13/2004 10:37:50 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Read between the lines. Putin saw what we are doing (30-1 kill ratio) and some General dealing with Chechnya got a bigtime chewing out. 30-1? Horosho Amerikanski Marinek! Shto bashii armiy?
Posted by: Anonymous4052 || 04/13/2004 13:03 Comments || Top||

#2  The Russians are down but not out. They WILL be back as a superpower at some point in the next 100 years. Until then they are gathering wool....
Posted by: Secret Master || 04/13/2004 16:15 Comments || Top||

#3  I'm sure Kimmie-boy is watching with baited breath as well.....
Posted by: CrazyFool || 04/13/2004 16:20 Comments || Top||


Don’t let Iraq’s tempest in a teacup rattle you
BY MARK STEYN
What more needs to be said?

The coalition approach to Iraq was summed up a year ago by a British colonel. Explaining how they were trying to secure Basra without blowing up buildings and causing a lot of death and destruction, he said, ’’We don’t want to go in and rattle all their teacups.’’

The avoidance of teacup-rattling remains a priority. Last week in Fallujah, American troops had rockets fired at them from a mosque. So they fired back, but with the state-of-the-art laser-guided weaponry that kills the insurgents but leaves the mosque virtually untouched. I’d have been quite happy to see it blown up with the old-school non-laser imprecise munitions. But leveling mosques is felt to be insensitive, so on we go, avoiding the rattling of teacups, whether Sunni or Shiite.

The problem with this deference to the locals is that, partly in consequence, most of the folks who are getting rattled are on our side.

So how bad are things in Iraq?

Answer: not very. Fallujah is not the new Mogadishu, Muqtaba al-Sadr is not the new Ayatollah Khomeini and, despite what Ted Kennedy says, Iraq is not ’’George Bush’s Vietnam.’’ Or even George Bush’s Chappaquiddick.

Here’s a good rule of thumb: The Pentagon’s demonstrated in two wars now that it’s got beyond Vietnam. If a politician or pundit can’t, pay him no further heed. If Sen. Kennedy wants to give rhetorical aid and comfort to the enemy, he could at least be less lazy about it.

Now here’s the more important question: Are the Iraqi people on the American side?

Answer: No.

Let me flesh that out. Eleven months ago I was in Fallujah. What a dump -- no disrespect to any Fallujans reading this. I had a late lunch in a seedy cafe full of Sunni men. Not a gal in the joint. And no Westerners except me. As in the movies, everyone stopped talking when I walked through the door, and every pair of eyes followed me as I made my way to a table.

I strongly dislike that veteran-foreign-correspondent look where you wander around like you’ve been sleeping round the back of the souk for a week. So I was wearing the same suit I’d wear in Washington or New York, from the Western Imperialist Aggressor line at Brooks Brothers. I had a sharp necktie I’d bought in London the week before. My cuff links were the most stylish in the room, and also the only ones in the room. I’m not a Sunni Triangulator, so there’s no point pretending to be one. If you’re an infidel and agent of colonialist decadence, you might as well dress the part.

I ordered the mixed grill, which turned out to be not that mixed. Just a tough old, stringy chicken. My tie would have been easier to chew. The locals watched me -- a few obviously surly and resentful, the rest wary and suspicious. But I’ve had worse welcomes in Berkeley, so I chewed on, and, washed down with a pitcher of coliform bacteria, it wasn’t bad.

Why didn’t they kill me? Because, as Osama gloated after 9/11, when people see a strong horse and a weak horse, they go with the strong horse. And in May 2003, four weeks after the fall of Baghdad, the coalition forces were indisputably the strong horse. And so, even when a dainty little trotting gelding of a newspaper columnist comes in through the door, they figure he’s with the strong horse crowd and act accordingly.

Would they have liked to kill me? Well, I’ll bet one or two would have enjoyed giving it a go. And, if they had, I’ll bet three or four more would have beaten my corpse with their shoes. And five or six would have had no particular feelings about me one way or the other but would have been generally supportive of the decision to kill me after the fact. And the rest might have had a few qualms but they would have kept quiet.

That’s the point to remember: The Iraqi people don’t want to be on the American side, only on the winning side. Right now, those two positions happen to coincide; 99.99 percent of Iraqi Shiites aren’t involved in the troubles of the last week. This guy Sadr is a junior-league blowhard. ’’If they come for our leader,’’ says one of his commanders, ’’they will ignite all of Iraq." No, they won’t. The vast majority of Iraq will remain un-ignited.

Look at those pictures of the atrocity in Fallujah: the remains of four corpses, and a bunch of savages dancing around them. In all those photographs, can you add up more than a hundred men? And half of them are punk kids under 11. There are 300,000 people in that city. A few score are depraved enough to cheer on the killers of four brave men; 299,900 of the town’s population were either disapproving or indifferent.

And in the Arab world, the indifferent are the biggest demographic. They sit things out, they see which strong horse has jostled his way to the head of the pack, and they go along with him. The Turks. The British. The British-installed king. The thug who murders the king. The thug who murders the thug who murders the king.

The passivity of the Arabs, the sensitivity of the coalition and the defeatism of the media is a potentially disastrous combination. Rattling teacups gets you a bad press from CNN and the BBC. But they give you a bad press anyway. And in Iraq, the non-rattling of the teacups is received by the locals not as cultural respect from Bush and Blair but as weakness. In that cafe in Fallujah, as a parodic courtesy, the patron switched the flickering black-and-white TV from an Arabic station to the BBC, which as usual was full of doom and gloom.

The Iraqis will go with the winning side. And, though the Americans had a bad week last week, the insurgents had a worse one, losing as many men in seven days as U.S. forces did in the last year. The best way to make plain you’re the winning side is to crush the other guys -- and rattle their teacups so loudly even CNN can’t paint it as a setback.

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#1  Excellent essay. Fallujah is welcome to remain a cessppool for eternity. The inhabitants are welcome to it.
Posted by: Lone Ranger || 04/13/2004 2:50 Comments || Top||

#2  the man can write
Posted by: Frank G || 04/13/2004 8:05 Comments || Top||

#3  I think Saddam understood this logic really well..
Posted by: lyot || 04/13/2004 8:31 Comments || Top||

#4  Hooray!! This guy really gets it!

"In the Arab world, the indifferent are the biggest demographic. They sit things out, they see which strong horse has jostled his way to the head of the pack, and they go along with him. The Turks. The British. The British-installed king. The thug who murders the king. The thug who murders the thug who murders the king. "

It's true: THEY DON'T REALLY CARE. It's all about power. We have to have the power, ourselves, before they can be taught what it means to be empowered as a people. Then change can begin (as in Kurdistan).

He also says:

"The passivity of the Arabs, the sensitivity of the coalition and the defeatism of the media is a potentially disastrous combination."

But it doesn't have to be. We just have to be the winner. We have to be the "Big Dog" (--with the BIGGEST stick!) That shouldn't be too hard, if we just disregard our own culture-bound conventions and expectations and go forward with resolve.

lyot's right--Saddam understood the way the Arabs are, and used it to his advantage. We should too.


Posted by: ex-lib || 04/13/2004 13:04 Comments || Top||

#5  I've been saying this sh*t for years from dealing w/muslims in our own country. Half the morons on t.v. claiming to know anything about Arab culture crack me up - this guy's got it down the best so far. They respect one thing - power. Kindness is considered weakness in their eyes.
Posted by: Jarhead || 04/13/2004 13:10 Comments || Top||

#6  They respect one thing - power. Kindness is considered weakness in their eyes.

Nuttin' wrong with playing by their rules, no?
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 04/13/2004 15:12 Comments || Top||

#7  I think the demographic has changed in Fallujah with the injection of several hundred Syrians and Palestinians. It's time to point out the futility of continuing to play by these silly rules. We should give the people of Fallujah an ultimatum: you have 24 hours to produce all the foreigners residing in your city, all the Baathists that continue to fight against the US forces, and all weapons, from slingshots to rockets. No one enters or leaves during that time period. IF you refuse, we will build a cordon around your city, and pound it down to bedrock. Period. Sorry about the men, women, children, puppies, kitties, and baby ducks, but that's war. Gee, too bad. Maybe next time you'll do what's necessary. Now, off to ar-Ramadi...
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/13/2004 15:53 Comments || Top||



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