[MerylNass] CDC Planned Quarantine Camps, Nationwide/Jeffrey Tucker @ Brownstone Institute
No matter how bad you think Covid policies were, they were intended to be worse.
Consider the vaccine passports alone. Six cities were locked down to include only the vaccinated in public indoor places. They were New York City, Boston, Chicago, New Orleans, Washington, D.C., and Seattle. The plan was to enforce this with a vaccine passport. It broke. Once the news leaked that the shot didn’t stop infection or transmission, the planners lost public support and the scheme collapsed.
It was undoubtedly planned to be permanent and nationwide if not worldwide. Instead, the scheme had to be dialed back.
Features of the CDC’s edicts did incredible damage. It imposed the rent moratorium. It decreed the ridiculous “six feet of distance” and mask mandates. It forced Plexiglas as the interface for commercial transactions. It implied that mail-in balloting must be the norm, which probably flipped the election. It delayed the reopening as long as possible. It was sadistic.
Even with all that, worse was planned. On July 26, 2020, with the George Floyd riots having finally settled down, the CDC issued a plan for establishing nationwide quarantine camps. People were to be isolated, given only food and some cleaning supplies. They would be banned from participating in any religious services. The plan included contingencies for preventing suicide. There were no provisions made for any legal appeals or even the right to legal counsel.
The plan’s authors were unnamed but included 26 footnotes. It was completely official. The document was only removed on about March 26, 2023. During the entire intervening time, the plan survived on the CDC’s public site with little to no public notice or controversy.
It was called “Interim Operational Considerations for Implementing the Shielding Approach to Prevent COVID-19 Infections in Humanitarian Settings.”
“This document presents considerations from the perspective of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control & Prevention (CDC) for implementing the shielding approach in humanitarian settings as outlined in guidance documents focused on camps, displaced populations and low-resource settings. This approach has never been documented and has raised questions and concerns among humanitarian partners who support response activities in these settings. The purpose of this document is to highlight potential implementation challenges of the shielding approach from CDC’s perspective and guide thinking around implementation in the absence of empirical data. Considerations are based on current evidence known about the transmission and severity of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) and may need to be revised as more information becomes available.”
By absence of empirical data, the meaning is: nothing like this has ever been tried. The point of the document was to map out how it could be possible and alert authorities to possible pitfalls to be avoided.
The meaning of “shielding” is “to reduce the number of severe Covid-19 cases by limiting contact between individuals at higher risk of developing severe disease (‘high-risk’) and the general population (‘low-risk’). High-risk individuals would be temporarily relocated to safe or ‘green zones’ established at the household, neighborhood, camp/sector, or community level depending on the context and setting. They would have minimal contact with family members and other low-risk residents.”
In other words, this is what used to be concentration camps.
Who are these people who would be rounded up? They are “older adults and people of any age who have serious underlying medical conditions.” Who determines this? Public health authorities. The purpose? The CDC explains: “physically separating high-risk individuals from the general population” allows authorities “to prioritize the use of the limited available resources.”
This sounds a lot like condemning people to death in the name of protecting them.
#1
Japan had a simple solution.
They masked up early and focused on super spreader
events(Cluster Busting) and trained its public to avoid closed spaces, crowded spaces and close conversations.
#3
The CDC needs to be completely torn down and if necessary, built back up from the ashes, sparingly. I am certain that we do not need such an organization as it currently exists.
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um, Crazy, masks don't stop viruses... read the label.
#9
If you wonder about CDC , the leadership and directors are the problem
*sigh* The above, of course, is true — basic psych of orgs theory. But your hypothesis about the reason why is fatally flawed, and on the internet everyone can prove, in less than ten seconds, exactly what you got wrong. I’m leaving up your link to give everyone here a chance to see if they can beat my speed.
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In July 2022, I met a high ranking NIH official on a cruise. I asked if masks and 6 foot social distancing worked. He said no and they only put that out to assuage the public.
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4^
Yes but they do restrict droplets and meant for others not your own protection.
#12
The Bureaucratic State has gotten way out of control and needs to be seriously reined in. Also, the weaponization of agencies has to stop. Currently trust for government is zilch.
[Daily Mail, where America gets its news] Barack Obama and his wife Michelle have been slammed by his biographer for 'talking down' to voters in 'tone-deaf and clueless' preaching that harmed Kamala Harris' ill-fated presidential campaign.
Just another straw. She broke her own back without any need for outside assistance.
The effect was so bad that – combined with Donald Trump's victory – it is likely to reduce the 44th president's political relevance to 'Bill Clinton levels', David Garrow said in an exclusive interview with DailyMail.com.
Ouch. He got Bill Clinton on the backswing with his scalpel.
'People do not want to be talked down to, no matter who they are,' the 71-year-old Pulitzer Prize winner said.
Since when does the opinion of garbage people matter? Oh, right.
'I thought it was tone-deaf and clueless for them to preach as they did,' he told DailyMail.com.
Dear, dear Barry always did have a solidly tin ear.
'I would expect that perception will be shared by lots of people. If so, I think it reduces their relevance to Bill Clinton territory.
Let them be bitter together, along with their bitter celebrity pals, as they all discover what happens to an expensive lifestyle when the money stops rolling in.
Garrow wrote the 2017 biography Rising Star: The Making of Barack Obama. He won his Pulitzer for an earlier book on Martin Luther King.
He predicted that the Obamas will now largely vanish from the political scene to hang out with celebrities on Martha's Vineyard.
Garrow said Tuesday's electoral rout has left Obama, 63, 'nervous' about the impact Trump could have on how he is seen by future generations.
He will be seen fairly, which is what he ought to want. He worked hard to get the ideas he championed a fair trial, so now it is indelibly proved that everything he fought for is an abject failure. He’ll be in high school civics textbooks for generations to come, next to Lysenko as an example for how not to do it. Most people learn best from painful mistakes, so he can be proud that he was a really good teacher.
'He has been and remains extremely concerned and nervous about his historical legacy,' he said.
'That has certainly taken a big hit with Trump once again triumphing.'
One of the major pillars of Obama's political legacy is the Affordable Care Act (ACA), which brought health insurance to millions and outlawed denial of coverage for pre-existing conditions. Obama has been intensely aware of Trump's repeated attempts to repeal the law. Trump issued an executive order in 2017 aimed at rolling it back, but failed to push the plan through Congress. He called the act 'lousy' and said he was working to replace it during his presidential debate with Harris in September.
The biographer and historian added that he believes the disastrous election result for Democrats means they will no longer want the Obamas front and center in future campaigns.
'The conclusion for Democrats is that they've got to dispense with these people from the past, including Hillary Clinton too, and move to a new generation of figures who are not in the AOC club at all,' he said, referring to left-wing firebrand Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
Who are these new generation figures? The older generation preferred minions to mentees.
But the writer predicted that Barack still has enough 'star-power' to pull in large speaking fees – such as the $400,000 he was paid for a single 2017 speech by Wall Street firm Cantor Fitzgerald, according to the New York Times.
'I'm not sure that would necessarily decline. He still has the celebrity factor of being an ex-president,' Garrow said.
In certain circles, anyway. No longer the ones that move and shake, unfortunately for his amour-propre.
The author said he expected the Obamas to 'continue to hang out with celebrities and live on Martha's Vineyard', the millionaires' playground island off the coast of Massachusetts.
'I certainly expect them to be spending less time in Washington after early January,' he said.
The power couple will be keeping themselves busy with their business endeavors including their TV company Higher Ground Productions, which was behind the movies Leave the World Behind and Crip Camp – which credited one or both of the Obamas as an executive director – the Barack-narrated documentary Our Great National Parks and the Michelle Obama Podcast.
I’ve not heard of any of them, but at the moment we’re watching British and European police procedurals and middle-period Dr. Who.
Former First Lady Michelle, 60, is also lending her personal brand to a fruit drink PLEZi, marketed as healthy and for younger kids.
She surprised shoppers at Costco in Livermore, northern California in September when she showed up promoting the drink, which has eight grams of sugar per can and 45 calories.
Garrow said Obama will not be playing puppet-master in the Democratic party, and he believes the former president was not involved in Joe Biden's ousting in July – but only because it would have made Biden dig his heels in.
'Before Biden withdrew, I said that if he had the impression that Barack was pushing him to get out, that would backfire, because Biden has had very sore feelings going back eight years now, that he didn't think Barack sufficiently respected him,' Garrow said.
'I think the "credit" for that goes largely to Nancy Pelosi.'
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Are we supposed to be grateful about Obamacare after Government Health Care and The Holy Science killed about two million Americans from 2020-2021?
“Paging Uncle Sugar! Uncle Sugar to the white courtesy phone!”
[Breitbart] The Africa Centers for Disease Control (Africa CDC) on Thursday called for President-elect Donald Trump to honor outgoing President Joe Biden’s pledge to supply a million doses of monkeypox (or mpox) vaccine for the outbreak in central and eastern Africa.
“We’ll continue to talk to them and to engage them to fulfill their commitment. If they don’t do that, the mistrust that we have today in Africa will lead to a major issue between the U.S. and the continent,” warned Africa CDC Director John Kaseya.
It is wise for beggars to at least pretend to be grateful.
“I’m available to fly and to meet and discuss with them about what Africa needs in the health area and how we can work together,” he added.
The World Health Organization (W.H.O.) declared a global health emergency for mpox in August. Biden announced at the U.N. General Assembly meeting in September that the U.S. would donate one million doses of mpox vaccine, plus at least $500 million in funding.
There have been no mpox cases reported in the United States, but Biden administration officials hinted that an outbreak was possible
Hinted? They were trying to gin up another pandemic scare so they could lock us all down and have another vote-by-mail election…
and complained that Congress had not provided enough funding to handle another pandemic.
“We’re really squeezing right now to be able to respond effectively in this moment. And I think anticipating potentially additional cuts in the future will make it more and more difficult for us to have a robust response to these types of outbreaks,” an unnamed U.S. official told Reuters in September.
The boy who cried wolf…
Reuters on Thursday speculated some of Africa CDC’s apprehension might flow from the presence of noted vaccine skeptic Robert F. Kennedy Jr. on his team. Kennedy said in an NPR interview on Wednesday that it was not his intention to “take vaccines away from anybody.”
“The science on vaccine safety particularly has huge deficits, and we’re going to make sure those scientific studies are done and that people can make informed choices about their vaccinations and their children’s vaccinations,” he said.
According to Africa CDC, the heaviest demand for mpox vaccines is currently in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC). Other affected nations include the Central African Republic (CAR), Cote d’Ivoire, Kenya, Liberia, Nigeria, Rwanda, South Africa, and Uganda.
All nations with a great deal of internal unrest, as I recall, making it very difficult to get vaccines beyond the big cities.
Vaccines have been donated by Canada, the European Union, and the Gavi vaccine alliance in addition to the United States.
Some health officials in the DRC believe the epidemic is “stabilizing.” The epidemic peaked at about 400 cases a week in July, and is currently producing 200 to 300 confirmed cases per week. The W.H.O., however, is worried that DRC officials may not be testing enough infected individuals, and warns the epidemic is still spreading in Uganda.
Dr. Salary Rhissa of the nonprofit group ALIMA told the Associated Press (AP) on Wednesday that a vigorous vaccination campaign could wipe out mpox now, and spare Africa from having to deal with new variants of the disease in the future.
“If we miss this opportunity, the likelihood of another significant outbreak increases substantially,” Rhissa said. “We’ve seen how past outbreaks, such as the one in Nigeria in 2017, can lead to larger global events if not effectively contained.”
Dr. Salim Abdool Karim of South Africa’s University of KwaZulu-Natal said the current variant of mpox is not burning out and disappearing, as previous outbreaks have done.
“We’re in new territory with mpox this time,” he said. “We’re never going to solve this until we vaccinate most of our people.”
#1
Just give them cash. It makes the stealing more efficient. Giving the vax and then releasing the info that the vax is dangerous would be problematic.
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It is wise for beggars to at least pretend to be grateful.
And to stay away from the monkeys. Beggars, don't be buggers!
[FoxNews] The FEMA official instructed workers canvassing Lake Placid in Florida to 'avoid homes advertising Trump'
The House of Representatives Oversight Committee has launched an investigation into the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) after an employee was terminated for instructing hurricane relief workers in Florida to avoid homes with Trump flags.
That would be Marn’i Washington, former supervisor and advisor of her very own list of best practices for helping those in need after that hurricane swept through Florida a few weeks ago, but only those she deemed deserving.
Rep. James Comer, R-Ky., chairperson of the House Oversight and Accountability Committee, announced Saturday he sent FEMA Director Deanne Criswell a letter requesting she testify at a hearing to answer questions about the agency’s response to hurricanes Helene and Milton.
In the letter, Comer said the hearing would "permit members to investigate recent reports that a FEMA official instructed relief workers to bypass hurricane-impacted homes displaying campaign signs for President Trump."
"In the wake of the recent major disasters that impacted Americans of all political persuasions, it is critical that FEMA adheres to its disaster relief mission," he wrote.
The Oversight Committee's investigation followed Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis's announcement Friday that he was launching an investigation into the agency.
"The blatant weaponization of government by partisan activists in the federal bureaucracy is yet another reason why the Biden-Harris administration is in its final days," DeSantis said. "At my direction, the Division of Emergency Management is launching an investigation into the federal government's targeted discrimination of Floridians who support Donald Trump.
"New leadership is on the way to D.C., and I'm optimistic that these partisan bureaucrats will be fired."
The investigations were promptly launched after FEMA confirmed to Fox News Digital that an employee had instructed aid workers to deny relief to residents who had Trump campaign signs at their homes. The Daily Wire was the first to report it.
"We take our mission to help everyone before, during and after disasters seriously. This employee has been terminated, and we have referred the matter to the Office of Special Counsel," Criswell said. "I will continue to do everything I can to make sure this never happens again."
A FEMA spokesperson told Fox News Friday the agency is "deeply disturbed" by the employee’s actions and that it was an "isolated incident."
"FEMA helps all survivors regardless of their political preference or affiliation," the spokesperson said.
"The employee who issued this guidance had no authority and was given no direction to tell teams to avoid these homes, and we are reaching out to the people who may have not been reached as a result of this incident," the spokesperson said.
The spokesperson added that the agency has helped more than 365,000 households affected by hurricanes Helene and Milton in Florida and provided nearly $900 million in direct assistance to survivors."
"We are horrified that this took place and therefore have taken extreme actions to correct this situation and have ensured that the matter was addressed at all levels."
#2
So this happened when? and it just came to light a couple of days ago? Seems like if it were as far out of normal procedures as the admin is claiming, some worker bee would have blown the whistle as soon as the instructions came out.
BTW__ what's in a name? "Marnie" was a grifter in the novel and movie of the same name.
#3
Fire the FEMA director at minute one. She was gonna get replaced anyways, but a firing before the clock even strikes one on 1/20 will send a message.
#4
Get the House Oversight start talking about repealing the Civil Service Act, given that 90%+ are registered for one party and act accordingly. It is not a non-partisan bureaucracy.
#5
Only the President gets to fire people. They can impeach the FEMA person. That would definitely be a signature end to this shart of an administration. In reality, everyone will be too busy job searching to do much with this. The political theatre is closed until January.
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report from earlier this week showed that a FEMA supervisor advised her team to “avoid” Florida homes “advertising Trump.” That supervisor, Marn’i Washington, says she is a "patsy” and that FEMA made her a “scapegoat.”
Washington told the Washington Examiner that not only did she and her teams canvas houses with Trump signage, “we’ve registered and provided resources to Trump supporters.”
The language in the leaked screenshot was “shorthand,” according to Washington. She explained the full context: Washington let her supervisors “know specific streets we could not do because of hostile political encounters,” and according to communications obtained by the Washington Examiner, she was encouraged and supported in her decision to avoid certain streets “to keep the team safe.”
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^ Suuure. Then name names. Turn on your higher-ups!
Posted by: Frank G ||
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Turn on your higher-ups!
Or cry racism and sexism and fall on your sword, hoping the Machine will find you a cushy spot to land. I suspect Marni was *not* an isolated instance at FEMA.
Hattip Skidmark. The details below the article are just to get the situation on record, not because anything is significantly changed.
[Daily Mail, where America gets its news] Donald Trump officially flipped the state of Arizona on Saturday to sweep all seven swing states in the 2024 presidential election.
In addition to a remarkable win to take back the White House, Tuesday's election also saw Republicans take the Senate and the party is well on the way to retaining its majority in the House.
With 87 % of the votes counted in Arizona, the AP had Trump at 52.6 percent of the votes counted with Kamala Harris on 46.4 percent. The state had previously been won by now-President Joe Biden in the 2020 election.
The nationwide results will hand Trump virtually unchecked power when he takes his oath of office in January. The Supreme Court, which includes an unprecedented three appointees from Trump, maintains a nine to three conservative majority.
After months of neck-and-neck polling with Vice President Kamala Harris in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Michigan, Trump won every single battleground state.
With 312 Electoral College votes, Trump's shocking and decisive win saw him earning the largest margin of victory since the 1988 election for President George H. W. Bush.
In 2016, six of the seven 2024 swing states went red for Trump with the exception of Nevada. Then in the 2020 cycle, all of the states flipped blue except for right-leaning North Carolina.
This year, Trump took all 93 Electoral College votes across the major battlegrounds and turned Nevada red for the first time in a decade.
All sorts of details about the vote counting since the polls closed on Election Day at the link.
#3
There were about half a dozen districts still uncalled as of last night, JohnQC, mostly in California. Take a look at the link in the post — under House.
[NY Post] The circular firing squad forms up
Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi tore into Sen. Bernie Sanders who had derided the Democratic Party and its alleged issues with the working class that ultimately failed to support Vice President Kamala Harris in her bid for the White House.
In a scathing letter to his former party a day after the election, Sanders blasted the Dems for “abandoning” the working class and seemingly acting surprised they didn’t show up at the polling booths.
“It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class people would find that the working class has abandoned them,” the Democratic socialist, 83, said in a fiery statement on X.
“First, it was the white working class, and now it is Latino and Black workers as well. While the Democratic leadership defends the status quo, the American people are angry and want change. And they’re right,” the Democratic Socialist said.
Pelosi didn’t take kindly to the Vermont independent senator’s remarks, rebutting Sander’s claim and doubling down that the Democratic Party didn’t abandon the working class.
“I have a great deal of respect for him, for what he stands for, but I don’t respect him saying that the Democratic Party has abandoned the working-class families. That’s where we are,” the 84-year-old California Rep. told the New York Times podcast “The Interview.”
Pelosi was pressured to reveal what went wrong in Harris’ campaign, but could not admit it was the vice president’s fault for losing the presidential election to Donald Trump.
“Well, I just completely disagree. And, in fact, Kamala Harris ran ahead of Bernie Sanders in Vermont,” Pelosi told the podcast.
Pelosi, who was seen as the mastermind in getting Joe Biden to drop his reelection campaign, said cultural issues were the reason Trump was backed by the lower classes.
“Well, there are cultural issues involved in elections as well. Guns, God and gays — that’s the way they say it,” she added.
During her conversation with Luu Garcia-Navarro, released Friday, Pelosi admitted it was a mistake to allow Biden to stay in the race for as long as he did before ultimately dropping out in July and handing the reigns over to Harris.
“Had the president gotten out sooner, there may have been other candidates in the race,” Pelosi said. “The anticipation was that, if the president were to step aside, that there would be an open primary.”
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Liar.
Posted by: Whiskey Mike ||
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The real concern is your stock portfolio Nancy.
#6
How about a statement from the other guy? What happened to the guy who took over when she stepped down and stopped running things? Does he have anything to say? Is he too busy making all the decisions?
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Men have always been the working class. They just didn't abandon it, they full on attacked it when they specifically targeted men with their mean girl campaign.
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[FoxNews] Radio host Charlamagne Tha God observed the widespread change of tone among many of President-elect Donald Trump’s critics, who have gone from warning he would end democracy to respecting his legitimate victory.
"I'm glad everybody's having a sense of optimism, because the reality is we have no choice, because we're here now. Donald J. Trump is going to be the 47th President of the United States of America, like it or not, and we all hope for the best for this country," Charlamagne tha God said.
"Don’t y’all find it strange that now that he’s won, they’re not calling him a threat to democracy? They’re not calling him a fascist. I mean, damn, on Monday, they was just calling him that," Charlamagne added.
"I would think that, you know, if you really believe that, then somebody’s speech would be about how America effed up and how things are about to be really bad. It just makes you wonder how much of it did they really believe, or how much of it was just politics. That’s all," he said.
In brief remarks Thursday, Biden said he congratulated Trump on his victory and assured that his entire administration would work "to ensure a peaceful and orderly transition." He emphasized unity and spoke about political campaigns as a "contest of competing visions" that the country chooses between.
This was a stark departure from Biden’s rhetoric about Trump and his supporters being a threat to democracy or "garbage." As he campaigned in the final weeks of the election for Harris, Biden had also called for Trump to be locked up "politically."
On Thursday, Fox News senior White House correspondent Jacqui Heinrich questioned White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre about this change in rhetoric from Biden, recalling that "this administration messaged to millions of Americans that they're going to wake up the day after the election if Trump won and have their rights stripped away, that democracy would crumble. And the president said today, ‘We're going to be OK,’ So how do you square that?"
After being pressed repeatedly by the reporter, Jean-Pierre eventually bristled and said, "Well, now you're just twisting everything around, and that's really unfair. No it is, no, no, no, Jackie, it's unfair because I've been standing here trying to be very respectful to what happened the last two nights, two nights ago. Being respectful."
#2
So Charlamagne evidently doesn't watch "The View".
Of course, neither does anybody else who has something to do. (Or has nothing to do, but doesn't want to listen to crap. I'm in that group.)
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It was politics, losing politics.
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I guess that's why Harris quit calling Biden a racist during the Dem 2020 primaries. Or was it because....
A multi-volume chronology and reference guide set detailing three years of the Mexican Drug War between 2010 and 2012.
Rantburg.com and borderlandbeat.com correspondent and author Chris Covert presents his first non-fiction work detailing
the drug and gang related violence in Mexico.
Chris gives us Mexican press dispatches of drug and gang war violence
over three years, presented in a multi volume set intended to chronicle the death, violence and mayhem which has
dominated Mexico for six years.
Rantburg was assembled from recycled algorithms in the United States of America. No
trees were destroyed in the production of this weblog. We did hurt some, though. Sorry.
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