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Army says hundreds arrested in ongoing Jenin raid
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Britain
US, Britain impose more sanctions on Hamas officials
[GEO.TV] The United States and Britannia on Wednesday imposed an additional round of sanctions on people in The Sick Man of Europe Turkey
...the only place on the face of the earth that misses the Ottoman Empire...
and elsewhere who are linked to the Paleostinian Hamas
...always the voice of sweet reason...
resistance group, the US Treasury Department said.

The sanctions target eight officials who advance Hamas’ agenda and interests abroad and help manage its finances, the Treasury said in a statement.

In the coordinated actions on Wednesday, Britannia's foreign office said it sanctioned seven additional people linked to Hamas, including Mahmoud Warty Nose al-Zahhar
...a co-founder of Hamas and a member of its leadership. Since 2006, Warty Nose has served as foreign minister in the government of Ismail Haniyeh. He is considered one of the more stubborn hard-liners and has no objection to kissing the Persian foot to keep the money flowing. Warty Nose's son, a member of the Qassam Brigades, was killed in an Israeli raid in early 2008. Another one was disposed of when the IDF bombed his house in 2003...
, Hamas’ co-founder, and Ali Baraka, Hamas’ head of external relations who was also sanctioned by the United States.

The UK sanctions also target a leader of the Paleostinian Islamic Jihad
...created after many members of the Egyptian Moslem Brotherhood decided the organization was becoming too moderate. Operations were conducted out of Egypt until 1981 when the group was exiled after the assassination of President Anwar Sadat. They worked out of Gaza until they were exiled to Lebanon in 1987, where they clove tightly to Hezbollah. In 1989 they moved to Damascus, where they remain a subsidiary of Hezbollah...
group and figures in the financial network that backs Hamas, including individuals in Leb
...an Iranian satrapy currently ruled by Hassan Nasrallah situated on the eastern Mediterranean, conveniently adjacent to Israel. Formerly inhabited by hardy Phoenecian traders, its official language is now Arabic, with the usual unpleasant side effects. The Leb civil war, between 1975 and 1990, lasted a little over 145 years and produced 120,000 fatalities. The average length of a ceasefire was measured in seconds. The Lebs maintain a precarious sectarian balance among Shiites, Sunnis, and about a dozen flavors of Christians, plus Armenians, Georgians, and who knows what else? It is the home of the original Hezbollah, which periodically starts a war with the Zionist Entity, gets Beirut pounded to rubble, and then declares victory and has a parade. The Lebs have the curious habit of periodically murdering their heads of state or prime ministers...
and Algeria.

"Hamas can have no future in Gazoo
...Hellhole adjunct to Israel and Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, inhabited by Gazooks. The place was acquired in the wake of the 1967 War and then presented to Paleostinian control in 2006 by Ariel Sharon, who had entered his dotage. It is currently ruled with an iron fist by Hamas with about the living conditions you'd expect. It periodically attacks the Hated Zionist Entity whenever Iran needs a ruckus created or the hard boyz get bored, getting thumped by the IDF in return. The ruling turbans then wave the bloody shirt and holler loudly about oppression and disproportionate response...
. Today’s sanctions on Hamas and Paleostinian Islamic Jihad will continue to cut off their access to funding and isolate them further," British Foreign Secretary David Cameron
...Empty suit Brit pol, former PM, has stated that he is certainly a big Thatcher fan, but I don't know whether that makes me a Thatcherite, which means he's not. Since he is not deeply ideological he lacks core principles and is easily led. He has been described as certainly not a Pitt, Elder or Younger, but he does wear a nice suit so maybe he's Beau Brummel...
said.

Posted by: Fred || 12/14/2023 00:00 || Comments || Link || [15 views] Top|| File under: Hamas

#1  What, no strongly worded communique?
Posted by: Procopius2k || 12/14/2023 7:34 Comments || Top||


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Second group of refugees arrives in Ingushetia
Direct Translation via Google Translate. Edited.
[KavkazUzel] A total of 18 refugees from the Gaza Strip, most of whom are children, arrived in Ingushetia today. Together with the first group of refugees, they are accommodated in a hotel in Nazran, the head of the republic said.

As the "Caucasian Knot" wrote, on December 5, the head of Ingushetia,  Mahmud-Ali Kalimatov, said that the republic was ready to accept  one hundred refugees  from Palestine, and that the authorities would take care of their accommodation and employment. On December 12, the first group of 55 refugees arrived in the republic. 

A total of 18 Palestinian refugees have arrived in Ingushetia, most of them children, the head of the republic said today. 

“We brought those who were forced to leave Palestine to the Assa hotel in Nazran. More than 50 refugees have already been accommodated there. All conditions for a comfortable and safe stay have been created for them: three meals a day, medical care, psychological support. Hygiene products have been purchased for all displaced people,” - Kalimatov wrote in his Telegram channel. He also said that he had taken personal control of “all Palestinian issues.”

As follows from the video attached to the publication, representatives of the authorities and employees of the Ministry of Emergency Situations met the arrivals at the station, helped them off the train and took them by bus to the accommodation point.
Posted by: badanov || 12/14/2023 00:00 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:


Europe
Dutch mayor refuses to be photographed with Israeli ambassador at Hanukkah event
[IsraelTimes] The town of Enschede’s Roelof Bleker conditions attendance at local Hanukkah celebration on avoiding Modi Ephraim, citing the desire to avoid controversy.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/14/2023 2023-12-14 02:22 || Comments || Link || [11 views] Top|| File under: Hamas

#1  When your daughter is gang raped by Muslim asylum seekers, avoid controversy.
Posted by: Grom the Reflective || 12/14/2023 2:36 Comments || Top||


The truth behind Germany's education 'disaster'
[German Review] A friend of mine works as a primary school teacher in the Berlin district of Neukölln, an area synonymous countrywide with failed integration policies.

The school he works at has a bit of a reputation.

Before the current school year commenced, he received an enrollment list. Half of the two dozen children were German. However, by the time the school year started, just two of the German names were left.

Their parents had successfully sued the education board into giving them a place at a "better" school. Realising what had happened, the mother of one of the two remaining German kids contacted him before the semester and asked tearfully whether her child's future was ruined. The penny even dropped for the parents of a Spanish child, who also disappeared from the list.

By the end, the names that were left were almost all from the Balkans and the Middle East.

This is unlikely to be an isolated anecdote.

Ever more lawyers are specializing in suing education boards on behalf of such parents. One lawyer boasts that he charges upwards of €3,000 - but that doesn’t put off pushy parents, who start contacting him in November just in case they need legal backup the following summer.

The result is a de facto segregation in the German school system. as middle-class parents, who enjoy the shabby chic qualities of a district like Neukölln, lose their sense of humor when it comes to their kids.

Nervous that their children’s classmates in "problem schools" can barely speak German, middle class parents know how to bend the system to ensure their children are surrounded by Emils rather than Amirs.

The consequence: children who speak another language at home have precious little contact with native speakers even in the schoolyard.

Thus, it wasn’t surprising to read in the latest OECD international comparison of school achievement that there is a yawning gap in Germany between the scores of native versus immigrant children.

Measured around a base average of 500 points in the OECD’s PISA test scheme, immigrant school pupils in Germany scored 59 points worse than German children in Maths and 67 points worse in reading. Overall, German children scored their worst-ever test results as standards plummeted.

Now, it is tempting to give yuppie parents all the blame and wag a finger at them for taking the selfish option.
Posted by: Besoeker || 12/14/2023 00:00 || Comments || Link || [12 views] Top|| File under: Moslem Colonists

#1  So Germans are supposed to sacrifice their children to Multiculturism?
Posted by: Grom the Reflective || 12/14/2023 1:11 Comments || Top||

#2  It's been done before.
Posted by: Skidmark || 12/14/2023 3:28 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Nawaz denies plotting against ex-army and spy chiefs, seeks action against 'conspirators'
[GEO.TV] Former prime minister Nawaz Sharif
...served two three non-consecutive terms as prime minister, heads the Pakistain Moslem League (Nawaz). Noted for his spectacular corruption, the 1998 Pak nuclear test, border war with India, and for being tossed by General Musharraf, then by the courts...
said Wednesday he never conspired against ex-army and spy chiefs during his tenure as the country's premier, Geo News reported.

Addressing the Pakistain Moslem League-Nawaz's (PML-N) parliamentary board meeting in Lahore, the party supremo said: "I never conspired against Gen (retd) Bajwa and Gen (retd) Faiz Hamid [...] nor did I conspired against Gen (retd) Raheel Sharif
...Former Pak chief of army staff, meaning he pulls the strings on the Nawaz Sharif puppet to make it dance and sing and not do much at all....
The veteran politician, who came back home from four years of self-imposed exile in London in October, is eyeing to become the country's prime minister for a record fourth time after being able to secure notable relief from courts in multiple graft cases ahead of the upcoming general elections slated for February 8, 2024.

A day earlier, the Islamabad High Court (IHC) overturned the conviction of the three-time former prime minister in the al-Azizia reference — a case in which he was handed a seven-year sentence along with a fine of £2.5 million for failing to justify the source of the funds provided to set up al-Azizia Steel Mills and Hill Metal Establishment (HME) in Soddy Arabia
...a kingdom taking up the bulk of the Arabian peninsula. Its primary economic activity involves exporting oil and soaking Islamic rubes on the annual hajj pilgrimage. The country supports a large number of princes in whatcha might call princely splendor. When the oil runs out the rest of the world is going to kick sand in the Soddy national face...
The decision came after Nawaz's acquittal in the Avenfield Apartments reference — where he was sentenced to 10 years over owning assets beyond means — after the IHC accepted his appeal against the conviction in the said case last month.

Posted by: Fred || 12/14/2023 00:00 || Comments || Link || [18 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Biden aide: Israel taking steps to protect civilians that even US might not have done
[IsraelTimes] White House National Security Council spokesperson John Kirby suggests that some of the steps the IDF has taken to prevent civilian casualties in Gazoo
...Hellhole adjunct to Israel and Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, inhabited by Gazooks. The place was acquired in the wake of the 1967 War and then presented to Paleostinian control in 2006 by Ariel Sharon, who had entered his dotage. It is currently ruled with an iron fist by Hamas with about the living conditions you'd expect. It periodically attacks the Hated Zionist Entity whenever Iran needs a ruckus created or the hard boyz get bored, getting thumped by the IDF in return. The ruling turbans then wave the bloody shirt and holler loudly about oppression and disproportionate response...
might go further than what the US would have done if it were in Israel’s place.

Kirby highlights the map the IDF published alerting civilians as to which neighborhoods it is planning to attack, so that they can evacuate ahead of time.

"That’s basically telegraphing your punches. There are very few modern militaries in the world that would do that. I don’t know that we would do that," Kirby says during a press briefing.


White House National Security Council Coordinator For Strategic Communications John Kirby buttons his jacket before talking to news hounds in the Brady Press Briefing Room at the White House on December 13, 2023 in Washington, (Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images/AFP)
The White House spokesperson is one of several officials in US President Joe The Big Guy Biden
...46th president of the U.S. The very model of probity....
’s administration who appear to be trying to walk back or soften the message voiced by the president yesterday, when he characterized Israel’s bombing campaign against Hamas
...one of the armed feet of the Moslem Brüderbund millipede,...
in Gaza as "indiscriminate."

Kirby says Israel has also reduced its Arclight airstrike
...KABOOM!...
s in the south, relying more on ground forces than it did in northern Gaza.

"They moved into southern Gaza on the ground in a way that was much smaller than they planned to do," Kirby says. "We think that was an output of some of the advice and counsel we provided them about urban warfare."
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/14/2023 2023-12-14 02:42 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under: Hamas

#1  That not a compliment, John!
Posted by: Grom the Reflective || 12/14/2023 3:36 Comments || Top||


Under military pressure, a top Hamas official suggests recognizing Israel UPDATE: “Never mind”
[IsraelTimes] Senior Hamas
...the braying voice of Islamic Resistance®,...
official Mousa Abu Marzouk
...whose net worth is over US$3 billion...
suggests that the Paleostinian terror group could recognize Israel for the first time as a step toward Paleostinian unity, potentially indicating the pressure it is currently under amid Israel’s military campaign to oust it from the Gazoo
...Hellhole adjunct to Israel and Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, inhabited by Gazooks. The place was acquired in the wake of the 1967 War and then presented to Paleostinian control in 2006 by Ariel Sharon, who had entered his dotage. It is currently ruled with an iron fist by Hamas with about the living conditions you'd expect. It periodically attacks the Hated Zionist Entity whenever Iran needs a ruckus created or the hard boyz get bored, getting thumped by the IDF in return. The ruling turbans then wave the bloody shirt and holler loudly about oppression and disproportionate response...
Strip.

The development comes shortly after Hamas politburo chief Ismail Haniyeh
...became Prime Minister of Gaza after the legislative elections of 2006 which Hamas won. President Mahmoud Abbas dismissed Haniyeh from office on 14 June 2007 at the height of the Fatah-Hamas festivities, but Haniyeh did not acknowledge the decree and continues as the PM of Gazoo while Abbas maintains a separate PM in the West Bank...
said yesterday that he is open to talks for ending the ongoing war and "putting the Paleostinian house in order both in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip," potentially leading to a "political path that secures the right of the Paleostinian people to their independent state with Jerusalem as its capital."

Hamas has always openly sought Israel’s destruction and has vowed to commit similar onslaughts to the one carried out on October 7 until this is achieved.

The rival Paleostine Liberation Organization (PLO), which runs the Paleostinian Authority in the West Bank, recognized Israel as part of the Oslo Accords in the 1990s, though it doesn’t recognize Israel as a Jewish state.

"You should follow the official stance. The official stance is that the PLO has recognized the state of Israel," Abu Marzouk tells al-Monitor.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/14/2023 2023-12-14 02:42 || Comments || Link || [30 views] Top|| File under: Hamas

#1  Missed the train Musa.
Posted by: Grom the Reflective || 12/14/2023 3:38 Comments || Top||

#2  admit that there is a boot on your neck?
Posted by: irish rage boy || 12/14/2023 10:42 Comments || Top||

#3  Death Eaters(tm) I am told welcome death in the name of their god or is the just reserved for your gullible cannon fodder?
Posted by: Procopius2k || 12/14/2023 10:59 Comments || Top||

#4  ”Never mind”:

Senior Hamas official Mousa Abu Marzouk tries to walk back comments he made earlier, suggesting that his terror group could recognize Israel for the first time as a step toward Palestinian unity.

Abu Marzouk tweets that there was a “misunderstanding of media statements.” He asserts that “Hamas does not recognize the legitimacy of the Israeli occupation and does not accept giving up any of the rights of our Palestinian people. We affirm that the resistance will continue until liberation and return.”

“Several points and phrases mentioned in my interview with Al-Monitor were distorted and do not express my position and the position of the movement, which has not changed,” he adds.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/14/2023 13:52 Comments || Top||

#5  “The word 'al-taqiya' literally means: "Concealing or disguising one's beliefs, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions, and/or strategies at a time of eminent danger, whether now or later in time, to save oneself from physical and/or mental injury." A one-word translation would be 'dissimulation'.“
Posted by: Super Hose || 12/14/2023 14:46 Comments || Top||

#6  Or "equivocation?"

"Snowexistence!" Or, Islam's Unifying Idea

Please visit our mosque, Al-Taqiyya.
There, peacefully, Sunni and Shia
And heretics too
Can all lie down to... you,
Fucking infidel suckers, so... see ya!
Posted by: Shereth Clart1775 || 12/14/2023 20:44 Comments || Top||

#7  Oof! Feeling a bit salty today, Zenobia F?
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/14/2023 22:30 Comments || Top||

#8  More like weepy, if I weren't such a bottler-upper dumbass. 'Tis the season! ;-) Possibly not the best time to try to make Be Not So Fearful me own. Talk about deceptively simple!
Posted by: Shereth Clart1775 || 12/14/2023 23:59 Comments || Top||


Hamas terrorist wounded in Gaza being treated in Israeli hospital — reports
[IsraelTimes] Move comes despite earlier decision that captured terrorists would only be treated in IDF or prison service medical facilities

A Hamas
...the braying voice of Islamic Resistance®,...
terrorist maimed in fighting in the Gazoo
...Hellhole adjunct to Israel and Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, inhabited by Gazooks. The place was acquired in the wake of the 1967 War and then presented to Paleostinian control in 2006 by Ariel Sharon, who had entered his dotage. It is currently ruled with an iron fist by Hamas with about the living conditions you'd expect. It periodically attacks the Hated Zionist Entity whenever Iran needs a ruckus created or the hard boyz get bored, getting thumped by the IDF in return. The ruling turbans then wave the bloody shirt and holler loudly about oppression and disproportionate response...
Strip is being treated in Sharon Hospital in Petah Tikva, Hebrew media reported Wednesday.

The move is in apparent contravention of a Health Ministry decision, made in the immediate aftermath of Hamas’s October 7 onslaught, that captured Lions of Islam would only be treated in IDF or prison service medical facilities.

According to the reports, the man was maimed in fighting on Tuesday and due to the severity of his wounds, it was decided to transfer him to the central Israel medical center.

Officials told Channel 12 that he was likely to be transferred to the Sde Teiman military detention center once his condition stabilizes.

An official told the Kan public broadcaster that he was sent to the hospital because the military facility did not have the capability to treat his wounds and that security at Sharon Hospital had been increased.

There were no immediate details on the Hamas terrorist’s identity.

Sources familiar with the decision told Channel 12 and Kan that captured Lions of Islam needing urgent medical treatment were being rotated through different Israeli hospitals. The official said the rotation agreement was done in coordination with the Health Ministry.

Soroka hospital in Beersheba confirmed to Kan that it also has a Gaza terrorist being treated there.

The comments appeared to indicate that Israel has shifted its stance from the initial decision not to treat captured Lions of Islam in Israeli hospitals.

In early October, then health minister Moshe Arbel sent a letter to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu informing him that he had ordered all public hospitals and health services to redirect injured Lions of Islam to IDF or prison service medical facilities.

"Since the beginning of the war, the issue of treating the accursed Hamas Lions of Islam in public hospitals has created great strain on the healthcare system," Arbel wrote.

He wrote that the health system needed to be focused on treating victims of the slaughter committed by the terrorists, injured soldiers, and on preparing for what is to come in the war.

"The task of treating and providing security for the accursed Lions of Islam in the public healthcare system just detracts from this," Arbel wrote.

At the time there were dozens of Hamas Lions of Islam who were captured in the aftermath of the October 7 onslaught, in which thousands of Lions of Islam invaded IDF bases and border communities, killing some 1,200 people, most of them civilians, and taking 240 hostages.

In recent days Israel has captured hundreds of suspected Lions of Islam in Gaza as it pushes ahead with its offensive and says they are providing valuable information.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/14/2023 2023-12-14 02:25 || Comments || Link || [17 views] Top|| File under: Hamas

#1  Wunderbar
Posted by: Grom the Reflective || 12/14/2023 2:35 Comments || Top||

#2  Lesson learned, put 1 in the head on battlefield if they are wounded
Posted by: Chris || 12/14/2023 8:12 Comments || Top||

#3  Chris, or better yet, somewhere they have a vital organ.
Posted by: Glenmore || 12/14/2023 9:19 Comments || Top||

#4  perhaps he has something to say?
Posted by: irish rage boy || 12/14/2023 10:44 Comments || Top||

#5  probably not worth hearing
Posted by: Chris || 12/14/2023 15:04 Comments || Top||

#6  perhaps he has something to say?

And even if he doesn't, his buddies will assume he spilled the beans and the IDF knows their schemes and secrets.
Posted by: SteveS || 12/14/2023 17:25 Comments || Top||

#7  "Where am I"

"You are in hospital."

"Give me three mags and a hand grenade."
Posted by: swksvolFF || 12/14/2023 17:29 Comments || Top||

#8  And even if he doesn't, his buddies will assume he spilled the beans and the IDF knows their schemes and secrets.

"He said he banged all his fellow Hamas friends' wives while they were stuck down there"
Posted by: Frank G || 12/14/2023 18:36 Comments || Top||


Poll shows soaring Palestinian support for Hamas; 72% back October 7 atrocities
[IsraelTimes] Survey of 1,231 Palestinians, conducted largely during recent truce, shows 44% in West Bank support Hamas, up from 12% in September, while 42% in Gaza back group, rising from 38%.

The survey was conducted from November 22 to December 2 among 1,231 people in the West Bank and Gazoo
...Hellhole adjunct to Israel and Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, inhabited by Gazooks. The place was acquired in the wake of the 1967 War and then presented to Paleostinian control in 2006 by Ariel Sharon, who had entered his dotage. It is currently ruled with an iron fist by Hamas with about the living conditions you'd expect. It periodically attacks the Hated Zionist Entity whenever Iran needs a ruckus created or the hard boyz get bored, getting thumped by the IDF in return. The ruling turbans then wave the bloody shirt and holler loudly about oppression and disproportionate response...
and had an error margin of 4 percentage points. In Gaza, poll workers conducted 481 in-person interviews during a weeklong ceasefire that ended December 1.

Shikaki, who runs regular polls, said the error margin was one percentage point higher than usual because of disruptions caused by the mass displacement of residents during the Israel-Hamas
...the well-beloved offspring of the Moslem Brotherhood,...
war. Hundreds of thousands of Paleostinians had fled fierce fighting in northern Gaza, and poll workers only conducted interviews in central and southern Gaza, including among displaced people, because they could not reach the north during the ceasefire.

Shikaki said the most popular politician remains Marwan Barghouti, a prominent figure in Abbas’s Fatah movement who is serving multiple life terms in an Israeli prison for his role in several deadly terror attacks during the Second Intifada. In a two-way presidential race, Ismail Haniyeh
...became Prime Minister of Gaza after the legislative elections of 2006 which Hamas won. President Mahmoud Abbas dismissed Haniyeh from office on 14 June 2007 at the height of the Fatah-Hamas festivities, but Haniyeh did not acknowledge the decree and continues as the PM of Gazoo while Abbas maintains a separate PM in the West Bank...
, the political leader of Hamas who lives in Qatar
...an emirate on the east coast of the Arabian Peninsula. It sits on some really productive gas and oil deposits, which produces the highest per capita income in the world. They piss it all away on religion, financing the Moslem Brotherhood and several al-Qaeda affiliates. Home of nutbag holy manYusuf al-Qaradawi...
, would trounce Abbas, while in a three-way race, Barghouti would be ahead just slightly, the pollster said.

Overall, 88% want Abbas to resign, up by 10 percentage points from just three months ago. In the West Bank, 92% called for the resignation of the octogenarian who has presided over an administration widely seen as corrupt, autocratic and ineffective.

At the same time, 44% in the West Bank said they supported Hamas in general, up from just 12% in September. In Gaza, the terror group received 42% support, up slightly from 38% three months ago.

Shikaki said support for the PA declined further, with nearly 60% now saying it should be dissolved. In the West Bank, Abbas’s continued security coordination with the IDF against Hamas, his bitter political rival, is widely unpopular.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/14/2023 2023-12-14 02:17 || Comments || Link || [36 views] Top|| File under: Hamas

#1  The othe 28 exercise discretion.
Posted by: Grom the Reflective || 12/14/2023 2:38 Comments || Top||

#2  There are eight recognized UNRWA camps in Gaza, all created 1948-1949, reported figures on the dole:
Rafah (1949) 125,000; Jabalia (1948) 114,000; Khan Yunis (1949) 88,000; Al Shati (1948) 165,000; Nuseirat (1949) 80,000; Bureij (1949) 82,000; Maghizi (1949) 52,000; Deir al Balah (1948) 160,000.
UNRWA statistics are a mess, claiming 1.4 million refugees in Gaza but 593,000 in camps-- which does not jibe with the latest figures given above.
Posted by: Jerens Black9355 || 12/14/2023 8:20 Comments || Top||

#3  Wanna bet the poll workers had armed Hamas "Security" standing behind them as they asked their questions?
Posted by: Frank G || 12/14/2023 9:09 Comments || Top||

#4  We didn't have any problem bombing German or Japanese civilians during WWII. So why get worked up when it's Paleos, without whom Hamas could not exist?
Posted by: Angstrom || 12/14/2023 10:12 Comments || Top||

#5  civilians in gaza? none!
Posted by: irish rage boy || 12/14/2023 10:46 Comments || Top||


Downpours bring flooding fears to Israel, Gaza
God agrees Gazan tunnels should be flooded.
[IsraelTimes] Heavy rains across the region are sparking fears of flooding in both Israel and the Gazoo
...Hellhole adjunct to Israel and Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, inhabited by Gazooks. The place was acquired in the wake of the 1967 War and then presented to Paleostinian control in 2006 by Ariel Sharon, who had entered his dotage. It is currently ruled with an iron fist by Hamas with about the living conditions you'd expect. It periodically attacks the Hated Zionist Entity whenever Iran needs a ruckus created or the hard boyz get bored, getting thumped by the IDF in return. The ruling turbans then wave the bloody shirt and holler loudly about oppression and disproportionate response...
Strip, as a low-pressure system moves through the area.

Readings from Israel’s meteorological service show areas near the Gaza border getting nearly 30 mm of the wet stuff over the past 24 hours, around a quarter of the average for December.

According to al-Jazeera, areas in south Gaza have experienced flooding due to the rains.

In Israel, the Nature and Parks Authority announces that several popular hiking paths are being closed due to flash flood worries.

Closures include all of Ein Gedi National Park aside from the first waterfall from the entrance, rappeling sites and hiking paths along normally dry river beds in the Judean Desert, and hiking paths along cliffs in the Arbel nature reserve near the Sea of Galilee in the north.

Nahal Bokek and the Yotvata Hai Bar nature reserve in the south are also closed due to the weather.

The rain is expected to taper off throughout the morning, giving way to dry, chilly conditions.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/14/2023 2023-12-14 01:42 || Comments || Link || [16 views] Top|| File under: Hamas

#1  I've gotta imagine there are deep sumps and pumps, like any mine.
Posted by: Skidmark || 12/14/2023 5:45 Comments || Top||

#2  ^ Gotta have fuel, and they're already pumping air down there
Posted by: Frank G || 12/14/2023 6:50 Comments || Top||

#3  around a quarter of the average for December.

Holy sump pumps, Batman! I'm sure the tunnel designers planned to handle an inch of rain.
Posted by: Bobby || 12/14/2023 8:31 Comments || Top||

#4  Turkish lawmaker who collapsed while criticizing Israel dies
Posted by: Grom the Reflective || 12/14/2023 10:08 Comments || Top||

#5  god cleaning up his/its own.
Posted by: irish rage boy || 12/14/2023 10:48 Comments || Top||

#6  What's that saying about "As Allah wills it"?


Think they'll get the message?
Posted by: AlanC || 12/14/2023 13:36 Comments || Top||


#8  I figure it was staged for the press.
Posted by: Spats B. Hayes8168 || 12/14/2023 17:26 Comments || Top||

#9  What is up with how 'the body' is articulated?

Ambulance would never have made it that far on its own; not without a snorkel. Still it floated so no tire traction anyways.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 12/14/2023 18:11 Comments || Top||

#10  Ummm...it’s been a while since I took biology, but where the water reaches in even the deepest example at Skidmark’s link is nowhere near the waists of the gentlemen involved.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/14/2023 22:29 Comments || Top||

#11  What is up with how 'the body' is articulated?

Bag of chickens.
Posted by: Skidmark || 12/14/2023 23:22 Comments || Top||


FM Cohen: War against Hamas to continue ‘with or without international support’
[IsraelTimes] Foreign Minister Eli Cohen says that the war against the Hamas
...a contraction of the Arabic words for "frothing at the mouth",...
terror group in the Gazoo
...Hellhole adjunct to Israel and Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, inhabited by Gazooks. The place was acquired in the wake of the 1967 War and then presented to Paleostinian control in 2006 by Ariel Sharon, who had entered his dotage. It is currently ruled with an iron fist by Hamas with about the living conditions you'd expect. It periodically attacks the Hated Zionist Entity whenever Iran needs a ruckus created or the hard boyz get bored, getting thumped by the IDF in return. The ruling turbans then wave the bloody shirt and holler loudly about oppression and disproportionate response...
Strip will continue "with or without international support."

"Israel will continue the war against Hamas with or without international support. A ceasefire at the current stage is a gift to the terrorist organization Hamas, and will allow it to return and threaten the residents of Israel," Cohen tells a visiting diplomat, according to a statement issued by his ministry.

Related: Netanyahu dismisses international pressure: ‘Nothing will stop us’ destroying Hamas

Posted by: trailing wife || 12/14/2023 2023-12-14 01:19 || Comments || Link || [16 views] Top|| File under: Hamas

#1  Especially as such support = holding to a knife handle stuck in Israel's back.
Posted by: Grom the Reflective || 12/14/2023 2:39 Comments || Top||

#2  The Venn diagram of people who don't think Israel has a right to confront an existential threat has an almost 100% overlap with people who say Trump is an existential threat to "democracy."

People who want to say I'm "antisemitic" for saying people of a certain creed should probably stop supporting and voting for people working against their best interests, well, go for it.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 12/14/2023 9:24 Comments || Top||

#3  ^Yea, but I want Greg Abbot or Ron DeSantis.
Posted by: Grom the Reflective || 12/14/2023 10:13 Comments || Top||


Pro-Palestinians briefly hack websites of IDF, Israel Postal Company
[IsraelTimes] The websites of the IDF and the Israel Postal Company were briefly hacked by pro-Paleostinian hackers earlier this evening, with messages against Israel being displayed.

Both websites were taken briefly offline to repel the attacks and both are now back up.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/14/2023 2023-12-14 01:15 || Comments || Link || [13 views] Top|| File under:


Israeli envoy to UK: ‘Absolutely no’ chance of a Palestinian state
[IsraelTimes] Israel’s Ambassador to the United Kingdom Tzipi Hotovely explicitly rejects the idea of a Paleostinian state, doubling down on messaging from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu who in recent weeks has butted heads with the Biden administration by ruling out the idea of the Paleostinian Authority returning to govern Gazoo
...Hellhole adjunct to Israel and Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, inhabited by Gazooks. The place was acquired in the wake of the 1967 War and then presented to Paleostinian control in 2006 by Ariel Sharon, who had entered his dotage. It is currently ruled with an iron fist by Hamas with about the living conditions you'd expect. It periodically attacks the Hated Zionist Entity whenever Iran needs a ruckus created or the hard boyz get bored, getting thumped by the IDF in return. The ruling turbans then wave the bloody shirt and holler loudly about oppression and disproportionate response...
after the war.

In an interview with Sky News, Hotovely is repeatedly asked whether a peace scenario with Israel can include a Paleostinian state.

"The answer is absolutely no," says Hotovely, who was a longtime member of Netanyahu’s Likud party before he tapped her as ambassador.

"I think it’s about time for the world to realize that the Oslo paradigm failed on the 7th of October and we need to build a new one," the ambassador says, using the same rhetoric employed by Netanyahu days earlier.

"The reason the Oslo Accords failed is because the Paleostinians never wanted to have a state next to Israel. They want to have a state from the river to the sea," she says.

When the interviewer pushes Hotovely again on why she won’t support a two-state solution, the ambassador shoots back, "Why are you obsessed with a formula that never worked, that created these radical people on the other side?"

The Israeli envoy goes on to argue that Gazooks need to be "re-educated," likening what she thinks needs to happen in the Strip to Germany and Japan after World War II.

"Those two societies turned out to be good Western countries," Hotovely explains.

"At the moment, under the UN name, the UNRWA schools are becoming terror schools. If you have the UN involvement, forget about refugee camps. Why should they be refugees after 70 years of having an independent life? They could’ve built their own life, but they didn’t," she continues.

The interviewer asks her whether she’s trying to replicate what China has done with the Uyghurs whom it has put into what it calls "re-education camps."

"Absolutely not!" replies Hotovely. "This is what you did in Nazi Germany."

"Obviously, we’re not interested in governing the Paleostinians, but we are interested in making sure that Gazoo>disproportionate response...
won’t become another terror hub," she says.

"We will demilitarize Gaza... and we believe that together with our allies and with the moderate Arab countries we can build a better future," Hotovely claims.

Just yesterday though, the UAE announced that it would not support efforts to reconstruct the Gaza Strip after the war unless the initiative was part of a broader two-state solution initiative — a framework that Hotovely and Netanyahu flatly reject.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/14/2023 00:00 || Comments || Link || [20 views] Top|| File under:

#1  If Israel disappeared tomorrow, there still wouldn't be a Palestinian state. And everybody, except for Harvard students, knows that.
Posted by: Grom the Reflective || 12/14/2023 0:54 Comments || Top||

#2  Swiss parliament votes to cut funding for UNRWA amid incitement allegations

A start Switzerland was the ninth-biggest donor.
Posted by: Grom the Reflective || 12/14/2023 1:32 Comments || Top||

#3  gaza no more! west bank next to go.
Posted by: irish rage boy || 12/14/2023 10:52 Comments || Top||


Haniyeh calls any Gaza plan without Hamas 'delusion'
[GEO.TV] Ismail Haniyeh
...became Prime Minister of Gaza after the legislative elections of 2006 which Hamas won. President Mahmoud Abbas dismissed Haniyeh from office on 14 June 2007 at the height of the Fatah-Hamas festivities, but Haniyeh did not acknowledge the decree and continues as the PM of Gazoo while Abbas maintains a separate PM in the West Bank...
, Hamas
...the braying voice of Islamic Resistance®,...
chief, said Wednesday that any post-conflict plan for Gazoo
...Hellhole adjunct to Israel and Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, inhabited by Gazooks. The place was acquired in the wake of the 1967 War and then presented to Paleostinian control in 2006 by Ariel Sharon, who had entered his dotage. It is currently ruled with an iron fist by Hamas with about the living conditions you'd expect. It periodically attacks the Hated Zionist Entity whenever Iran needs a ruckus created or the hard boyz get bored, getting thumped by the IDF in return. The ruling turbans then wave the bloody shirt and holler loudly about oppression and disproportionate response...
without the Paleostinian resistance group is just a "delusion".

"Any arrangement in Gaza or the Paleostinian cause without Hamas or the resistance factions is a delusion," said Haniyeh in a televised speech.

Haniyeh's comments came a day after Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said that he would not allow "the entry into Gaza of those who... support terrorism and finance terrorism".

Haniyeh, however, said that he would be open to talks about ending the Israeli offensive and "putting the Paleostinian house in order in the West Bank and Gaza Strip".
No.
The Hamas leader also said that the resistance group was ready to engage in a dialogue to reach a political path that ensures that Paleostinians have the right to live in an independent state with Jerusalem as its capital.
Still no. Oh by the way, you’re being hunted. Enjoy this interlude while it lasts.

Posted by: Fred || 12/14/2023 00:00 || Comments || Link || [11 views] Top|| File under: Hamas

#1  Here I agree with him - Gazans are Hamas.
Posted by: Grom the Reflective || 12/14/2023 0:55 Comments || Top||

#2  Poll shows soaring Palestinian support for Hamas; 72% back October 7 atrocities
Posted by: Grom the Reflective || 12/14/2023 1:36 Comments || Top||



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  Army says hundreds arrested in ongoing Jenin raid
Wed 2023-12-13
  Several Hamas leaders have left Qatar for an unknown destination, turning off their phones and not accepting calls
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  Activists calling for Gaza ceasefire protest in US Senate office building
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  Netenyahu to Hamas: It's over. Don't die for Sinwar. Surrender - now
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  Dozens of Hamas terrorists surrender to Israeli soldiers
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  All telecom services in Gaza Strip have been lost
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  Heavy fighting reported in southern Gaza overnight after truce breakdown
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