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the Budweiser ad was appropriatly somber...but they should have run it each year.
I refuse to forgive...cannot forgive...and don't give a DAMN about "understanding" why war was declared on us. It WAS declared...we should fight it to WIN.
Nine years ago to the day we got up and enjoyed a beautiful September day. We dressed, we had a cup of coffee or tea, and we got ready to go about our day's business. Few of us gave any thought to the Islamic world.
That changed when 9 a.m. rolled around. Almost 3000 of us wouldn't live out the day. Four plane loads of people would end the day as body parts, many of them never to be recovered. That was the day the Islamic world entered the American thought process.
Since then we've learned much about the world of Islam, often despite attempts to feed us pablum or nonsense. We've come to understand a culture that is in many ways antithetical to our own, a culture whose roots stretch all the way to the dawn of civilization, when man belonged to the temple and his lot was to work for the gods under the supervision of the priests. It was a culture we thought we had defeated, stopped at the Gates of Vienna on another September 11th, 327 years ago.
When the Eastern Empire died in 1453 our Western world wasn't that different from the Muslim world. Neither had religious freedom, both societies were priest-ridden, and both worlds' economic systems were approximately the same. Serfdom was dead 130 years in France, still alive in England, and the conditions of the emerging peasantry weren't all that different from serfdom. Nevertheless, the two civilizations had split and would continue to diverge.
From the 12th century Europe's gentry had adopted and adhered -- often in the breach -- to the code of chivalry. It contained ideas that grew out of Christianity's Golden Rule, concepts which are absent in Islam.
Chivalry introduced the concept of an obligation upon the strong to protect the weak. It carried with it the concept of love, courtly perhaps, but love nonetheless between man and woman, with woman idealized as Beauty, much more than just a bearer of sons or a dynastic tie. It also carried with it the concept of the gentilhomme -- the corresponding male ideal. The concept of the gentleman was impossible without the concept of the dignity of man. The devil lay in the details of who got to be a gentleman and who got to tug at his forelock. It's an argument that's still not over in the West, that hasn't started yet in the world of the Mohammedans.
Today we look on the world of Islam and we see what our own world could have been without the Romance of the Rose. A dwindling number of Catholic (and a few Anglican and Lutheran) churches still ring the Angelus at 6:00 am, noon, and 6:00 pm. Had we not diverged from the God-centered world of the Middle Ages we'd be required to stop what we're doing and recite Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariæ, whether we knew what it meant or not. Mohammed went the Christians two better and his followers are required to pray five, not just three, times a day, in Arabic, whether they know what the prayers mean or not. We in the West have gone through Jan Huss, 95 Theses, Reformation, Counter-Reformation and Renaissance. In city after city the Angelus bells fall silent because we've stopped paying attention. In the world conquered by the Arabs the muezzin continues to yowl, right on schedule.
The enemy accuses us a fighting a religious war against him. But we're not. The Crusades have been over for hundreds of years. We don't think that way anymore, even though he does. We've moved on. He hasn't.
What many of us forget is that what we're fighting is a war of cultures. On one side is a world view in which man is the property of his god, born to sacrifice and hardship for the greater glory of the god. The common name Abdullah, borne by two Arab kings today, means literally "Slave of Allah." Woman is born to bear sons, also for the greater glory of the god. On the other side is what we have evolved into with the passage of a thousand years, still imperfect, still evolving, still bickering and arguing over details. But the core beliefs of our side -- kindness, humility, individual liberty, equality of man and woman, and their right to be left alone -- are worth defending to the death. The alternative to that defense is a regression of a thousand years, our children to live as property of a god.
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Fred that was wonderfully eloquent. You hit the nail on the head. You are right, a thousand times right. I will never forgive, never forget what happened on September 11. I watched it pop right out of my TV screen in 2001, at my mum's house in Sydney.
I will never forget that night. never.
However - there is another enemy. They are worse than the Islamics because they have the capacity to defeat us militarily. They have nukes, lots of them. China is waiting for us. If we bleed our strength on the Islamics too much China is waiting. Behind her, Russia.
The best retort to the Islamic world is for the USA to remain strong, proud and free. And limit islamic immigration please.
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anon1, the most potent enemy of all is the internal one - the perversion mindset as espoused by Obama and his leftie chums - that America and the west are in fact inferior to their enemies, or at best, equal partners. The Islamic world and China are bone-headed and impotent slave societies if faced up to with resolve. Superstitious, irrational, perverted moral-equivalence inhumanity is the rot that can take away that resolve. If it is successfully countered the west will always prevail over the miserable hordes of darkness.
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mindset (that)America and the west are in fact inferior to their enemies, or at best, equal partners
A terrifying book from 30-some years ago develops this theme - 'In the Camp of the Saints' by a Frenchman (they saw that mindset first) named Jean Raspail.
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Fred - these words of yours, will stay with me forever, "our children to live as property of a god." Hauntingly true, unveiling a religion for what it really is.
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nicely put, Fred. It's pretty obvious wherever Islam holymen reign there's a f*cked up culture, a retreat in technology, freedom, liberty, sanity, and grace. They're crude tyrants in teh name of Allan, but mostly their own power and control. I expect we will have to start taking the fight to the Madrassas, their ISI controllers, Afghan Talib sympathizers and Pakland in general to have any long term improvement in Afghanistan and our security. It will become tougher to deny the duplicitous nature of Karzai, the Pashtun traitors, and our "ally" Pakistain. I say bring back Dostum. He's tanned, rested, and ready. Shipping containers full of our enemies, dying in the sun or cold...but I'm a softie
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(Xinhua) -- One civilian was killed and six others injured in a Koran burning protest launched Friday in northern Afghanistan's Badakhshan province.
Syed Safoi, the provincial police chief, told Xinhua that thousands gathered in Fayzabad city, capital of the province, to protest against the Koran burning issue which headlined in media recently.
Fighting took place during the demonstration causing one civilian dead, six others including four police personnel injured, said the police chief.
Locals said troops with the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) opened fire to the civilians, an allegation which was rejected by Safoi.
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Captain Alex Martin writes about the Marines' execution of the rescue of the Magellan Star. Captain Martin was on the mission. This is a first hand experience report that is a MUST READ.
..."the execute order's now at the three-star level." Everyone looked at each other half-suspiciously.Then reports came to us about the pirates onboard. They were armed. They were aggressive. They were pointing their weapons at the warships. They were making demands. They were non-compliant. They refused repeated attempts by the Princeton to surrender. They said they would stay on and fight.
"They'll say go now," someone said, "won't they?" We waited and waited. "Hey," Homestead yelled, "listen up, the decision is now at CENTCOM." Pause. "General Mattis!" someone said, and the entire platoon ignited in a spontaneous cheer. A second pause. A sergeant remarks, "Man, now it's gonna take even longer," he said, jokingly. "Whatcha talking about man, it's General Mattis! We're golden." "No brother, now we'll have to wait for him to get aboard...you know the General will wanna be with us on this hit." Everyone laughed and felt relieved...this was going to happen after all.
An hour later, still waiting, we asked each other, "I wonder what the hold up is?" Darkness was less than an hour away, time was running out. Homestead again: "Hey guys, the execute order..." we all pulled our headsets off one of our ears to best hear him, "it's at the President." From the platoon: silence...
Do click on the picture at the site several times, making it larger and view these heroes
[ABC News] An American member of an al Qaeda-connected terror group has been killed in fighting in Somalia, according to intelligence and government officials there.
Gone to hell, as he deserved. I hope he found life as a jihadi considerably less inspiring than he planned.
The fighter, a Somali-American man known as Dahir Gurey Sheikh Ali Guled, was found dead in Mogadishu after a street battle between the militant group, Al Shabab, and pro-government forces.
A US official told ABC News that Gurey was believed to be an American citizen who arrived in Somalia earlier this year, but cautioned that the US government has not independently confirmed Mr. Gurey's death or nationality. Somali officials said the man had documents on him that indicated he was American.
Now they can plant him in Somalia.
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The United States needs to develop the ability to fly A-10 aircraft from carriers, and give 200 of them to the Marines. Build two versions - one with the GAU-8 30mm Gatling gun, and one with a pair of 7.62 mini-Gatling guns. Use them in he$$holes like Somalia. We have drones that can find the enemy. We need something other than fast-movers to take them out. A carrier-based flight of A-10s would be the perfect weapon. Also, can you imagine any better assault-landing support weapon better than an A-10?
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[Al Arabiya] Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula has issued a statement threatening to kill 55 named policemen in Yemen's restive southern province of Abyan.
In a statement distributed in the provincial capital Zinjibar, AQAP lists the police officers and says "they have become legitimate targets for us from Friday," the first day of the Eid al-Fitr feast marking the end of Ramadan. The group calls on them "to repent in public at Zinjibar mosque following Friday prayers or be killed," said the statement, the authenticity of which could not be confirmed.
The list named 31 state security officers, 15 members of the judiciary police and nine members of military intelligence, a police officer whose name is on the list told AFP.
Speaking on condition of anonymity, the officer said those who issued the statement were trying to "break the morale" of the police. "We haven't taken much notice of the threat, apart from taking some preventative measures," he said. A local official added: "We have received instructions to avoid gatherings in public places."
"We are truly afraid," he said, adding that armed and masked men distributed the statement in Zinjibar market with no police intervention.
AQAP members operate openly in south Yemen, handing out leaflets in mosques and launching ever more audacious attacks against the security forces. Militants have claimed responsibility for a series of deadly attacks in recent weeks, including murdering a security services official in Yemen's eastern Marib province.
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Google Translate from a variety of sources. For a map, click here.
Mexican security authorities say the 85 inmates total who escaped a prison in Reynosa used a ladder to scale the perimeter fence early Friday morning, according to Mexican news sources.
The break took place at the Centro de Ejecuciones de Sanciones (CEDES) is the fourth break at that prison and a fifth in Tamaulipas prison in the calender year to date.
Reports say of the escapees, 66 were facing Mexican Federal charges, while 19 were facing local and state charges.
A total of 44 guards and employees have been detained by Mexican Federal law enforcement for investigation of the escape including the warden, Guadalupe Reyes Ortega. Two guards are also reported missing, however authorities have speculated those missing employees may have been part of the escape plot.
No firearm discharges were reported, nor was there any other attempts to stop the escape., which started at 0430 hrs.
A total of 201 inmates have escaped Tamaulipas prisons in 2010. Friday's break is the largest of any break in 2010.
A total of eight individuals died as a result of ongoing drug and gang related violence including a man shot and immolated in Hermosillo, Sonora. For a map, click here.
A woman was shot to death in his residence in Juarez Friday morning, according to Mexican press reports. Eva Aguilar, 36, was shot in the bedroom of her home on calle Jose Urquid in the barrio La Chaveña where an armed suspect broke in to the residence and shot her, her husband Felix, 38, and her 12 year old son.
A factory worker was shot to death near his home in Juarez, say Mexican press account. Jesus Alberto Gomez Reyes, 46 was shot while he was aboard his Chevrolet S-10 in front of his residence near the intersection of calles Desierto de Uganda and Desierto de Lisboa in the Pradera de los Oasis district. Reports say more than 13 9mm spent shells were found at the scene.
An unidentified man was shot to death in Juarez Friday, say Mexican news sources. The attack took place near the intersection of calle Privada Habana and Perimetral Carlos Amaya in the Industrial district where the driver of a Dodge Durango was parked. He was shot numerous times with 9mm weapons.
A man was found shot to death and immolated in Hermosillo, Sonora Thursday evening, say Mexican news reports. Hermosillo resident Adrian Varela Saucedo, 46, was found aboard his Chevrolet pickup truck on Kilometer 4.5 of the highway to Minera Nyco, where firefighters responded to an auto fire call, and noticed to victim inside after the fire was extinguished. Several 9mm and .45 ACP spent shells were found at the scene as well as a container of gasoline.
Four unidentified armed suspects were killed in an confrontation with elements of the Mexican Army in Nuevo Laredo, Tamaulipas, say Mexican press accounts. The gun battle took place near rancho Las Penitas where a detachment of the Mexican 8th Military regions fought the suspects, killing four. No casualties were reported by the army. The Mexican Army also seized 20 rifles and about 5,200 weapons cartridges.
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US State Dept. travel warning issued yesterday:U.S. citizens should defer unnecessary travel to Ciudad Juarez and to the Guadalupe Bravo area southeast of Ciudad Juarez. U.S. citizens should also defer travel to the northwest quarter of the state of Chihuahua.
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How about Americans defer ANY freaking travel to Mexico at all? Belize has better ruins, better beaches and reefs, and they speak English as their mother tongue. If you have to go some place hot and tropical where Spanish is spoken for a vacation, go to freaking Puerto Rico.
About 40 American employees of Caterpillar facilities in Mexico, including in Monterrey, are affected by the company's order. Those employees all are salaried or management, said company spokesman Jim Dugan.
[Jerusalem Post] Danish police reported Friday that a man was detained after a minor explosion in a hotel in downtown Copenhagen.
Police spokesman Henrik Moeller Jacobsen said the man had slight injuries on his face and arms, and was arrested in a park near the blast site. The cause of the explosion was still being investigated.
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[Arab News] France and Serbia have arrested 15 Serbs over the past two days accused of trafficking weapons from the Balkan country to France, a spokesman for the Serbian intelligence agency said on Friday.
"They were involved in smuggling explosives and automatic weapons in a truck," said Jovica Stojic, a spokesman for the Security Information Agency. "More arrests are possible as the investigation is still ongoing."
Stojic said officials had arrested eight suspects in Serbia and seven in France. All 15 are Serbian citizens. He did not say who the weapons were destined for.
Belgrade is stepping up efforts to crack down on organized crime as part of its efforts to join the European Union.
Organized crime flourished in Serbia during 1990s when the country faced international isolation for its role in the Balkan wars.
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[Jerusalem Post] Turkish media reported Friday that a 13-year-old boy was in critical condition with a gunshot wound after Kurdish activists fought police in several towns in eastern Turkey.
Street clashes broke out on Wednesday and Thursday after authorities reported the deaths of nine Kurdish rebels in combat with the Turkish military earlier in the week.
Police used tear gas and water cannons to battle stone-throwing protesters. DHA and CNN-Turk television say a boy was shot in the head in the town of Keklikpinar in Hakkari province. It was not clear who fired the shot.
The violence comes ahead of a referendum Sunday on constitutional changes that the government says will make Turkey more democratic. Many Kurdish politicians plan to boycott the vote because the changes do not recognize the ethnic Kurdish identity.
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The Turks must be desparate to sweep this under the rug (ahem) as they're currently hosting the World Basketball championships.
By the way anyone know if the name "Ilyasova" is Kurdish, or something else?
He's a very good young player on Turkey - plays with the Milwaukee Bucks too. But his name sounds Russian. And his look is a little different and he was the only guy on the Turkish team not singing the national anthem. That doesn't mean anything necessarily, but...I started to wonder - maybe this guy is different ethnically.
P.S. Go Team USA
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Ilyasova sounds like a Russian married woman's family name.
[The News (Pak)] The on again, off again, on again Koran burning in Florida is off again, this time for good says infamous pastor Terry Jones.
After two days of sending mixed signals, the Florida pastor, who caused a furor with his plans to burn copies of the holy Quran, has indefinitely canceled the globally-condemned scheme.
"Not today, not ever...We're not going to go back and do it. It is totally canceled," Terry Jones said Saturday during an appearance on NBC's "Today" show.
On Thursday, Florida pastor Terry Jones of the Dove World Outreach Center had only put his Quran burning plans, slated to coincide with the ninth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks in New York and Washington, on hold.
The US State Department also called the move "un-American," while the US Attorney General Eric Holder called the idea "idiotic and dangerous."
EU Foreign Affairs Chief Catherine Ashton condemned the scheme, while Arab League chief Amr Moussa dubbed Jones as a "fanatic."
The Vatican council blasted the Florida church's scheme as an "outrageous and grave gesture."
The move triggered protests in India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran and Indonesia.
"We will definitely not burn the Quran, no," he said. "Not today, not ever."
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This will be more than made up for, because all the excited dhimmitude is going to stimulate hundreds of others to burn Korans, to show their defiance. And if Holder sends FBI agents to threaten them as well, there is a good chance that they will set up video cameras to record them.
After, of course, the official denials that they were threatened.
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The time to have decided to not burn the Crayon was before announcing you were going to do it in the first place. Now it will be interpreted that you changed your mind because you were afraid of the wrath of the Muslims or Allan - you succumbed to US governemtn demands that were made because THEY were afraid of the Muslims or Allan.
[Jerusalem Post] Several hundred activists rallied on Saturday to support an Islamic center proposed near Ground Zero after remembrances were held for nearly 3,000 victims of the Sept. 11 attacks.
They carried signs with such slogans as "The attack on Islam is racism" and "Tea Party Bigots."
They gathered near City Hall in the afternoon and planned to march closer to Ground Zero, where a protest by opponents was planned.
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With all the vilensce in New York city why can't some of it find this group?
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[Dawn] At least 12 people were killed in a clash between two tribes in a row over the distribution of irrigation water in Pakistain's Kurram tribal region on Friday, reports quoted officials and residents as saying.
The clash occurred between the Shalozan and Shalozan Tangi tribes in upper Kurram.
Clashes between the two tribes had been going on for a week and at least 27 people have been killed as a result. More than 40 people have been injured in the clashes.
Heavy arms were used in fighting and several people were also injured during today's clash.
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[Dawn] Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani rejected any Swat and Malakand like army operation in Balochistan, on Friday. He said the government was working towards the 'Balochistan Rights Package.'
During a meeting with the national newspaper editors, Gilani said that all government efforts were focused at providing relief and rehabilitation to the flood victims.
He further added that the international community pledged one billion dollars and only 300 million dollars had been received by the government.
"The entire donation received will be spent on the flood victims in a transparent manner," said Gilani.
He also said that differences between political parties usually arise and the government is working to end those differences.
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(Xinhua) -- At least one police official was killed and three other policemen were injured during fighting with extreme left-wing Naxal rebels in the central state of Jharkhand's dense jungles Friday, a senior police official said.
"The officer-in-charge of Jama police station, Satanand Singh, died on the spot when a bullet hit him in the head during the gunfight with the Naxalites in the hilly jungles of the state's Dumka district. Three others were injured in the gunbattle," Deputy Inspector General of Police B.K. Pandey told the media.
The encounter, which started in the early morning during a routine patrolling operation, is still on.
"More casualties are feared. However, senior police officials have rushed to the spot and reinforcements have also been sent to the area," said another police official.
The latest attack came just days after the Naxalites abducted four policemen from the neighboring state of Bihar. They later killed one policeman and released others, after holding them hostage for nearly nine days during an ambush in the state's Lakhisarai district, in which at least seven other security forces personnel were killed.
More than 200 security personnel have been killed in the first six months of this year by the Naxals, who claim they have been fighting for the rights of the poor and the landless.
Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has termed the insurgency as the country's biggest internal security challenge.
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[Arab News] City police chief Vasudeo Mishra on Thursday admitted to the failure of police in keeping track of Islamic snuffies and curbing terrorism following the interrogation of alleged Lashkar-e-Taiba terrorist Bilal Baba Hussain Fareed Shaikh who was jugged by the Maharashtra Anti-Terrorist Squad (ATS) in Nashik on Tuesday.
There were jitters in the city police force after Bilal told the ATS interrogators in Pune that Nashik was the target of the LeT and that a plan was drawn to target the military base in Deoali, police training academy and the police commissionerate in Nashik.
Soon after the disclosure by Bilal, Mishra called an urgent meeting of top police officials to discuss and chalk out a strategy to foil any attempt by the Boskonians to carry out attacks.
Speaking to the media, Mishra said: "I do admit that there was complete intelligence failure to keep an eye on the movement of terrorists. The intelligence network has not been good. Security has now been beefed up. All industrial units in the Maharashtra Industrial Development Corporation area have been told to submit photographs of all their workers, along with the proof of their residential addresses."
From Bilal's statement it appears that the intention of the goons was to demoralize the police by carrying on terrorist attacks on the Maharashtra police academy, Mishra said.
In the meeting with top police officials, Mishra took stock of the prevailing law and order situation. "Bilal had been residing in Nashik for the past several months. During this period, he collected information about Maharashtra police academy and the police commissionerate. By carrying out terrorist attacks on the police academy and the police commissionerate, the bad boyz objective was to jolt the police department. In this aspect, I had talked with ATS chief Rakesh Maria. As per the information provided by Maria, the Nashik police have been alerted and all precautions are being taken," Mishra added.
Mishra further said that the police are keeping a vigil in sensitive areas. Combing operations have also been carried out in sensitive areas from time to time. We have already informed the landlords that they should inform the police whenever they rent their houses to unknown persons. However, The infamous However... the landlord who rented his house to Bilal had not informed the police about the tenant. Hereafter the police will adopt a more stern action in this regard.
Meanwhile, police have started the paperwork but haven't done much else under section 188 of Criminal Procedure against the landlady Gangubai Gulve who had rented the house to Bilal. The landlady was jugged later for her failure to inform the police about the tenant Bilal.
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[Pak Daily Times] Condemnation: Afghan President Hamid Karzai on Friday said that Jones "should not even think" of burning the holy Quran.
"By burning the Quran they cannot harm it. The Quran is in the hearts and minds of one and a half billion people. (But) insulting the Quran is an insult to nations," Karzai said.
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad branded the episode a "Zionist plot" that would end up in the speedy "annihilation" of Israel, while Ismail Haniya, a top leader of the Palestinian Hamas movement, called Jones an "insane lunatic".
Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono lashed out anew against Jones a day after calling on US President Barack Obama to intervene.
Afghan protest: Thousands of people took to the streets across Afghanistan on Friday, some threatening to attack US bases.
One protester was shot dead and several were wounded outside a German-run NATO base in northeast Afghanistan and NATO said it was investigating. Demonstrations later spread to the capital, Kabul, and at least four other provinces.
A crowd, estimated at 10,000 by a government official, poured out of mosques into the streets of Faizabad, the capital of Badakhshan in Afghanistan's northeast, after Eid prayers. One protester was shot dead when the people tried to enter the NATO base in Faizabad.
In Multan, hundreds of protesters took to the streets and burned US flags. agencies
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Every one of the one and a half billion of you mooks can go piss up a rope.
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Afghan President Hamid Karzai on Friday said that Jones "should not even think" of burning the holy Quran.
US and NATO forces are in Afghanistan, their official mission is to "serve" the Afghan people.
The Afghan President is threatening individual American citizens in the US because they dare exercise their constitutional rights.
The US govermenment at all levels does not condemn Karzai or the other impudent thugs issuing threats.
No, the US government is putting pressure on Americans so that they "voluntarily" give up their rights and the Arab-Islamic thugocracy can be appeased.
Would it be unreasonable to conclude that the US and the West have lost the 9/11 war?
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yes you have lost the 9/11 war and I am sorry about that. the crazy islamics are the enemy of all.
BUT the new enemy is sitting there laughing at the waste of money, resources and energy that the USA is throwing at the Islamics.
The real threat is China. They are waiting for you to weaken.
Instead the US should pull out of Iraq, Afghanistan and start training, saving and preparing for the next superpower confrontation which is coming as surely as the night follows the day.
If you want to pick a fight with the islamics at least make it look like it comes from China. Let them waste their treasure for a change.
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"Quran-burning outrage builds across the globe"
Yes, we are outraged here in the UK, because non of the Quran`s have been burned yet.
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I have come to the reluctant conclusion that Afghanistan is incapable of governing itself as long as there are Pashtuns in the government. The same also goes for Pakistan, but includes a dozen other tribes as well. The solution is to pull out, let the Taliban take over, and then nuke the lower half of the country and all of Pakistan into oblivion. The rest of the islamic world, understanding that we're totally fed up with their little snits, will either learn to play nicely, or will become targets - their choice. Before we can do that, however, we're going to have to clean out Washington, down to the GS-12 level.
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OP, I think that's a rather harsh view. Granted it has a basis in reality, but we aren't QUITE at that point yet. Though I would certainly sleep better should it be done, even while mourning the innocent lost in the attack.
An easier thing to do would be to use our Germ-warfare programs to effectiveness. Black ops goes in to areas where there is no US troop presence and spreads around some Plague or something into the water supply. Less costly, less traceable, and with any luck will drive people away from the "nuts" since they are cursed by Allah.
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I say go ahead and burn them now. They are bitching and they didn't even get burnt.
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Burning one at my house tonight. F the pedophile prophet.
[Asharq al-Aswat] Militants in Gazoo fired a projectile into southern Israel on Friday just hours after Israeli warplanes carried out a series of raids across the coastal strip, a military spokeswoman told AFP.
She said it was not clear whether it was a mortar round or a rocket which slammed into the Shaar HaNegev area close to Gazoo's northeastern border with Israel. It caused no injuries or damage.
At least six rockets or mortar rounds have been fired across the border since Monday in what has become a near daily occurrence.
Overnight, two Gazooks in the Hamas, always the voice of sweet reason, security forces were maimed in Gazoo City when Israel launched a series of retaliatory air strikes after an earlier rocket attack, Paleostinian witnesses said.
Israel also mounted air strikes in the north and in the southern border city of Rafah, targeting a smuggling tunnel. No one was injured, witnesses said.
The raids came after a rocket and mortar round were fired into southern Israel on Thursday, causing neither damage nor casualties.
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[AP] The Philippine government has asked a court to outlaw the Abu Sayyaf as a terrorist group and blacklist more than 200 of its Islamic fighters blamed for two decades of bombings, kidnappings and beheadings, officials said Monday.
The Justice Department recently lodged its petition against the al-Qaida-linked group with a trial court in southern Basilan province _ the Abu Sayyaf's birthplace _ in the first known government attempt to ban a rebel group under a 2007 anti-terrorism law.
Abu Sayyaf members currently cannot be arrested unless they commit a crime.
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Yeah, that ought to just about take care of it.
[Al Jazeera] Iran has cancelled the planned release of Sarah Shourd, a detained US woman, because it says the legal procedure needed to secure her freedom has not been completed.
"Because the legal procedure on her case is not finished, her release is cancelled," the ILNA news agency quoted Abbas Jafari Dolatabadi, a Tehran prosecutor, as saying on Friday.
"The judiciary does not validate the published news and naturally any decision about the defendants will depend on carrying out the judicial process," Dolatabadi said.
Shourd, along with Shane Bauer and Josh Fattal, were arrested in July 2009 after straying into Iranian territory from Iraq.
The three said that they became lost on a hike in Iraqi Kurdistan but Iran has accused them of being spies.
US authorities insist that they are innocent and say they should be released immediately.
An Iranian government official had said on Thursday that Shourd would be released on Saturday as an act of clemency to mark the end of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.
Medical problems
Shourd, 31, has told her mother that she is suffering from serious medical problems, including a breast lump and precancerous cervical cells.
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Sounds like somebody's flipping short round off.
I think Pat Buchanan is an unmitigated a-hole, but his take on the war powers I think is correct.
This episode reveals the gulf between us and the Islamic world. Despite all our talk of universal values, tens of millions of Muslims, in countries not only hostile but friendly, believe that a sacrilege against their faith, like the burning of the Quran by a single American oddball, justifies the killing of Americans. What kind of compatibility can there be between us?
What do we have in common with people who believe that evangelism by other faiths in their societies merits the death penalty, as do conversions to Christianity, while promiscuity and adultery justify stonings, lashings and beheadings.
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tens of millions of Muslims, in countries not only hostile but friendly, believe that a sacrilege against their faith, like the burning of the Quran by a single American oddball, justifies the killing of Americans
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Muslims are the enemy. You are in no way culturally compatable or comparable. Islamic immigration should be severely restricted.
But they are NOT the enemy you should be provoking right now.
The USA needs to conserve its strength and marshall its forces.
You need to get on top of your economic woes because there is a sneaky silent foe that lurks like the giant under the mountain.
You are wasting your treasure and blood fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan while the Chinese menace grows apace.
The Chinese are not wasting time fighting the Muslims, they are sitting back laughing at you wasting your strength away.
In a few years the US will be drained, militarily and economically and China will do what it likes in the Pacific. You will be unable to stop them.
Please stop this insanity now - take the troops home from Iraq and Afghanistan because war is coming and if the US don't win the next one then we are doomed to live under an era of submission to China.
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anon1: Penny wise and pound foolish. By crudely building up their aggressive military forces, then being obnoxious about it to other SE and South Asian nations, China, on its own, is stimulating cooperative agreements between India, Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, Australia, and anyone else who wants to join in.
By not being front and center, for once, the US is doing more to support this cooperation and mutual reliance than it would by trying to defend these nations.
At the same time, the festering boil which is the Ummah, is precipitously close to developing nuclear weapons, and, unlike the Chinese, who have at least some perspective about their use, the Muslim world still lives in a fantasy world where nukes are just big bombs, to be used against their hated enemies of the moment.
Hopefully, Iraq can get over its constipation and get around to having a democracy. Then perhaps Egypt might follow suit. Pakistan is and will likely remain a nightmare, so will be on the table until somebody is strong enough to rule the entire country.
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All joking and posturing aside, I think the biggest problem with burning Qurans is that you have to somehow get your hands on one, or however many you intend to burn. You would probably have to buy them, actually pay good money for them. Presumably the profits from this transaction would go to people who believe this devil's book should be published and they would be encouraged to publish even more.
Mrs. Uluque came up with a better idea this morning. When I came down for breakfast she said, "You better put out your flag today."
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I keep thinking about those 2 teenage girls in Texas. Their only crime was wanting to fit in with their peers at school, to not be 'different'. But, since they were Muslim, and chose to go to school without covering their hair (horror!) they were killed by their father and brothers.
I keep thinking I bet they don't give 2 shits about someone burning that goddam Koran.
A multi-volume chronology and reference guide set detailing three years of the Mexican Drug War between 2010 and 2012.
Rantburg.com and borderlandbeat.com correspondent and author Chris Covert presents his first non-fiction work detailing
the drug and gang related violence in Mexico.
Chris gives us Mexican press dispatches of drug and gang war violence
over three years, presented in a multi volume set intended to chronicle the death, violence and mayhem which has
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Rantburg was assembled from recycled algorithms in the United States of America. No
trees were destroyed in the production of this weblog. We did hurt some, though. Sorry.
Nine years ago to the day we got up and enjoyed a beautiful September day. We dressed, we had a cup of coffee or tea, and we got ready to go about our day's business. Few of us gave any thought to the Islamic world. 
From the 12th century Europe's gentry had adopted and adhered -- often in the breach -- to the code of chivalry. It contained ideas that grew out of Christianity's Golden Rule, concepts which are absent in Islam. 
(Xinhua) -- One civilian was killed and six others injured in a Koran burning protest launched Friday in northern Afghanistan's Badakhshan province.
[ABC News] An American member of an al Qaeda-connected terror group has been killed in fighting in Somalia, according to intelligence and government officials there. 
Several hundred activists rallied on Saturday to support an Islamic center proposed near Ground Zero after remembrances were held for nearly 3,000 victims of the Sept. 11 attacks.
Condemnation: Afghan President Hamid Karzai on Friday said that Jones "should not even think" of burning the holy Quran.
